The new SE(Sony Electronics) - XPERIA X8 General

As you might know or not back in november sony announced that they wil split from ericsson this year.
Now Sony is back in buisness at CES 2012 and they announced their first non-ericsson phones(that make our x8 very teeny-weeny )Here is a more closer look at the new phones.
But you may ask what is the conection with our x8?Maybe now new-
SE wil finally make an update for our phone!!!!(I hope)

X8invisible13 said:
As you might know or not back in november sony announced that they wil split from ericsson this year.
Now Sony is back in buisness at CES 2012 and they announced their first non-ericsson phones(that make our x8 very teeny-weeny )Here is a more closer look at the new phones.
But you may ask what is the conection with our x8?Maybe now new-
SE wil finally make an update for our phone!!!!(I hope)
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Whoa! This will attract a lot of attention and business if they do update all se smartphones.
Hit the THANKS button if I helped!!
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wow!!!!!!!this would be good....i hope they will update our x8's....

nice sharing info, keep hoping..

X8invisible13 said:
But you may ask what is the conection with our x8?Maybe now new-
SE wil finally make an update for our phone!!!!(I hope)
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where do you have this from? se won't update x8, why should they do it?

fifo171 said:
where do you have this from? se won't update x8, why should they do it?
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+1 lol why wud they

Hey man,thats just marketing,nothing really change,and our phone will keep dead on 2.1.
And they not leave ericsson on true,they just remove the name,to make Sony a unifyed brand!

fifo171 said:
where do you have this from? se won't update x8, why should they do it?
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I didnt said they will 100% update it but now there are more chances

Forget it my friend,thats will not happen!Like a said its just a name change!

Sony will sell some "super mobile phone" in near future but they do not care a little bit about the old one ( like x8 ) how sad it is

Related

Xperia X10 HD

http://www.xperiax10.net/2010/10/14/‘xperia-x10-hd’-to-land-in-a-matter-of-weeks-same-hardware/
This cannot be true. Just an upgrade mof X10 to android 2.1.
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It's a simple "re-brand" so they can market the phone again, but this time with a newer OS. Read the article, guys.
iead1 said:
It's a simple "re-brand" so they can market the phone again, but this time with a newer OS. Read the article, guys.
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Gee, where have I heard this before? Oh yeah, that is what I told you would happen back in April!
fm1776 said:
Gee, where have I heard this before? Oh yeah, that is what I told you would happen back in April!
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...? You said that SE would rebrand the phone in certain markets to refresh the marketability of the phone?
iead1 said:
...? You said that SE would rebrand the phone in certain markets to refresh the marketability of the phone?
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Exactly! The same thing they did on the P900 to the P910. And, than there was the X1 to the X2.
I told you in April, May, June, and July. I have owned four SE flag ship devices and this is exactly what SE do. What's their motto again? Oh yeah, Make Believe!
SE make you believe that you are getting the latest device and it turns out to be miles behind the devices that come out one week later!
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Exactly! The same thing they did on the P900 to the P910. And, than there was the X1 to the X2.
I told you in April, May, June, and July. I have owned four SE flag ship devices and this is exactly what SE do. What's their motto again? Oh yeah, Make Believe!
SE make you believe that you are getting the latest device and it turns out to be miles behind the devices that come out one week later!
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Whoa, boy,
Whatever happened to "I'm running away in shame and hopeyou guys forgive my childish antics"?
Hmm... You really are a liar, through and through... Mommy's sooooo proud of you =D
As far as I can tell from the pic is that the HD is about video. Hence the "HD capture 720p". Read the small letters below the HD. They are just promoting the capability to capture HD videos in 720p.
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And dont forget that a device that hit the marked now with 2.1, is bound to get 2.2 upgrade down the line... that also means 2.2 for us...
Oh, and thats also why the roadmap only was up to 2.1... ;-)
Send from my X10, still without 2.1 *&%#
pshdo said:
And dont forget that a device that hit the marked now with 2.1, is bound to get 2.2 upgrade down the line... that also means 2.2 for us...
Oh, and thats also why the roadmap only was up to 2.1... ;-)
Send from my X10, still without 2.1 *&%#
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That'd be the only positive thing I could see coming from this. Perhaps there is a glimmer of hope after all!
I won't hold my breath though. After I get some money I'm investing in an HTC or Motorola Android device.
Orange is already making ad about the X10 HD.
The 2 pictures were taken in Paris, France
JokerWrath said:
Orange is already making ad about the X10 HD.
The 2 pictures were taken in Paris, France
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Wow, something different in Singapore. We still have only X10 here so the marketing strategy will be different in different countries.
Sent from my X10i using XDA App
Looking at the ad and translating it to English and then reading it in context it's obvious it is a marketing scheme. I don't understand why people are getting mad that a company wants to trick another group of people in to buying their product.
Edit: people getting mad would be fm1776 but I guess he/she was mad at SE before the telephone was invented
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pshdo said:
And dont forget that a device that hit the marked now with 2.1, is bound to get 2.2 upgrade down the line... that also means 2.2 for us...
Oh, and thats also why the roadmap only was up to 2.1... ;-)
Send from my X10, still without 2.1 *&%#
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+1
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Well its obvious id say this is the reason for the delay in the first place. Why would you wait on this coming out if u could get an old x10 last month cheaper with sane hardwate and hd video so they would have waited
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bongd said:
That'd be the only positive thing I could see coming from this. Perhaps there is a glimmer of hope after all!
I won't hold my breath though. After I get some money I'm investing in an HTC or Motorola Android device.
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I wish they would make a Xperia x10 12 mgp phone...
I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE 12 mgp
zm4 said:
I wish they would make a Xperia x10 12 mgp phone...
I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE 12 mgp
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I don't. I have already a 12mp DSLR which isn't compromised by the lack of flash, camera software and OEM support. I wouldn't put my trust in SE with anything now that I know how awful the company is. SE is horrible.
JokerWrath said:
Orange is already making ad about the X10 HD.
The 2 pictures were taken in Paris, France
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Is that a second camera on the right side above the screen?
qwer23 said:
Is that a second camera on the right side above the screen?
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Nope. It looks just like the old Xperia.
qwer23 said:
Is that a second camera on the right side above the screen?
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It's the proximity sensor ;-)
Sent from my X10i

1st details on Gingerbread

http://phandroid.com/2010/10/18/exclusive-first-android-gingerbread-details/
here you can see the first details about the Gingerbread, more of them are cosmetics but it`s start
Personally, I'm more worried about Eclair rather then Gingerbread. I will think about Gingerbread if they announce it for X10 which is highly unlikely...
me 2 i am more worried about Eclair and then Froyo and i also think will never get Gingerbread aswell
well rumors say that SE will skip froyo and go for gingerbread... should we hope gingerbread update for x10???
peter_15 said:
well rumors say that SE will skip froyo and go for gingerbread... should we hope gingerbread update for x10???
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dont realy think so but hope is alive
yeah.. we could probably just forget about OS updates after 2.1.... at the rate they're going.. lol
but i really hope so as well
Gingerbread for X10
I was told by a friend of some 15 years standing who works for Sony Ericsson on the testing side that SE are not developing Froyo and are already developing gingerbread.
For now, I only dream and think about 2.1, really don't care about 3.0 much
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I was told by a friend of some 15 years standing who works for Sony Ericsson on the testing side that SE are not developing Froyo and are already developing gingerbread.
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well good 4 u that means will never get further than 2.1 and uxp updates .. if its true ofc
wassa said:
I was told by a friend of some 15 years standing who works for Sony Ericsson on the testing side that SE are not developing Froyo and are already developing gingerbread.
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for the x10?
it's quite easy to make these claims... everyone can do it (make claims that is)
I can confirm the above poster is right, X10 will stop at 2.0 and the next SE phone will have 3.0
Expect an announcement before Christmas that will launch a few new phones.
peter_15 said:
well rumors say that SE will skip froyo and go for gingerbread... should we hope gingerbread update for x10???
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This is a joke or some kind of a rhetorical question?
wassa said:
I was told by a friend of some 15 years standing who works for Sony Ericsson on the testing side that SE are not developing Froyo and are already developing gingerbread.
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Please don't make unsubstantiated claims. Thank you.
I was kinda hoping for Froyo after while ... but i think this is can be said 100% they are skipping it because it`s all rumors so nobody can confirm or not confirm anything on that statement
X10 with gingerbread
xatakamovil.com/sistemas...cion-de-android[/url]
Is this phone a xperia x10?
pato66 said:
xatakamovil.com/sistemas...cion-de-android[/url]
Is this phone a xperia x10?
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when i clicked on this link this came out "Se ha producido un error: la página que buscas no existe."
http://www.gsmspain.com/externo.php...son_HILO-OFICIAL-SonyEricsson-Xperia-X10.html
that is ok
well officaly will never gonna get it 512 ram as we all know ... and the way SE are update-ting software ... probably the Honey Comb is gonna be out when gingerbread became ready for SE users ... i mean if we x10 owners gonna get it witch is doubtful
P.s.
the think i need is 2.1 and cracked bootloader and then installing custom roms for MT and froyo So i`m resting my future on the shoulders of the devs from this site Ty for the good work guys and fingers crossed for success
no. it's a nexus 1. eventho at first glance it did look like a black xperia x10..but no it isn't. unfortunately.
tookieboy said:
no. it's a nexus 1. eventho at first glance it did look like a black xperia x10..but no it isn't. unfortunately.
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it says Nexus One but the device dont look like Nexus One
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_google_nexus_one-pictures-3069.php
look and there is no Black Nexus One as u can see there is only one color available and its grey-brown something
it looks more like x10 but ...dunno what is it but i think definetley its not nexus

New update for non-rooted X10 users

I've received quite a handful amount of PM's regarding the new SO-01b update that it wasn't up to their expectations regarding UXP revamp or improvements. The SO-01b update is "not" what SE planned to update. It's version is still 2.0.1. Please note that the update is not what has been planned nor is the one planned canceled. Everything is still on schedule, and you will all receive your next big update to 2.1.A update soon. The final test firmware has already begun internally a few days ago, so it will take a while before it exits testing period. Please be patience guys
P.S. Anyone read the Vivaz 2 article? I can only laugh
unknown13x said:
I've received quite a handful amount of PM's regarding the new SO-01b update that it wasn't up to their expectations regarding UXP revamp or improvements. The SO-01b update is "not" what SE planned to update. It's version is still 2.0.1. Please note that the update is not what has been planned nor is the one planned canceled. Everything is still on schedule, and you will all receive your next big update to 2.1.A update soon. The final test firmware has already begun internally a few days ago, so it will take a while before it exits testing period. Please be patience guys
P.S. Anyone read the Vivaz 2 article? I can only laugh
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So will the UXP bring Arabic support?!! I am dieing here!!
Vivaz 2? Isn't that the MT15 Hallon?
According to a SE event held in egypt ,all the xperia range will get arabic support in Q1 2010 (i can't find the link now but it's confirmed)
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Alihosny said:
According to a SE event held in egypt ,all the xperia range will get arabic support in Q1 2010 (i can't find the link now but it's confirmed)
Sent from my E15i using XDA App
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Yes, it should be supported in 2.1.A, but NOT 2.0.1.B. I'm sure there will be people who misunderstand that. Thanks for the confirmation from your location
Thanks for clearing this up. Is it possible to give some more info on the contents of this update?
In Japan there is a rumor that SO-01B will not plan to update to 2.1x.
So I think 2.0.1.b.0.19 update is final update to give us MT for SO-01B.
Sent from my SO-01B using XDA App
vivaz2... hahahahah... looks like a replacement for the x8 to me.. where on earth did they get Vivaz from??!!
unknown13x said:
P.S. Anyone read the Vivaz 2 article? I can only laugh
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yep. i red it. funny man wrote it
ps. can u tell please is there any plans or ideas or rumors of satio version on android - i mean real photo monster on android? Cause after satio - x10 and arc cameras... but i sold satio because of symbian. Ah?
djandre said:
yep. i red it. funny man wrote it
ps. can u tell please is there any plans or ideas or rumors of satio version on android - i mean real photo monster on android? Cause after satio - x10 and arc cameras... but i sold satio because of symbian. Ah?
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Sorry, not anytime soon. I'm just here to notify people who are curious about what the new update is about and whether it's what everyone is waiting for.
unknown13x said:
Sorry, not anytime soon. I'm just here to notify people who are curious about what the new update is about and whether it's what everyone is waiting for.
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Your title says for "non-rooted" users. So if you are rooted and running stock SE you will NOT get the update?!
I think he still thought that the new update couldn't be root.
It's for those who dont root thier X10
No, I did not meant to say if you are rooted then you will not receive an update. It's definitely not true Most of the rooted users are probably already on the clean roms or even 2.2 roms with MT enabled throughout. So I don't know if you guys would be interested in the new update
unknown13x said:
No, I did not meant to say if you are rooted then you will not receive an update. It's definitely not true Most of the rooted users are probably already on the clean roms or even 2.2 roms with MT enabled throughout. So I don't know if you guys would be interested in the new update
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I am very much interested in the new update. I am running stock fw with all the bloatware removed
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@unknown13x- What exactly is the difference between the Hallon and the Arc? Given the Hallon article by MR, it seems that we are going to pay a premium on the Arc for inferior features. The hallon has a front cam while Arc doesnt. Everything else is the same.
se_dude said:
@unknown13x- What exactly is the difference between the Hallon and the Arc? Given the Hallon article by MR, it seems that we are going to pay a premium on the Arc for inferior features. The hallon has a front cam while Arc doesnt. Everything else is the same.
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I have answered that in the arc's forum. I'll try to keep on topic here about the update only
Is there anything more you can tell us about the update, or maybe show us???
batman_112 said:
I am very much interested in the new update. I am running stock fw with all the bloatware removed
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all the bloatware removed <---- How ??
i want to delete all useless craps like the moxier
Hi again unknown13x, been a while....
Does the new mediascape have an equalizer? And is the Timescape scrollable? That will make me switch back from 2.2 if so...
SE should enable track skipping with the volume buttons, like on my old k800.
What could we expect with new version?
Just give us some hints, please!

Xperia series android 2.3 in October 2011

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I think its not true. What u say ?
SE have already said there will be no more updates to Android for current Xperia models. But new models will have later versions of Android.
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SE have already said there will be no more updates to Android for current Xperia models. But new models will have later versions of Android.
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Arc will have 2.3
Maybe the devs make 2.3, like 2.2.1 for X10
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SE have already said there will be no more updates to Android for current Xperia models. But new models will have later versions of Android.
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No,no. They say that we will have the 2.3 update, and this is a S.E. offical source, now if they don't deliver us the update we can go tu court and sue them for false advertising
narendrakini said:
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I think its not true. What u say ?
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no update
Final consideration of the Company
"...the company will focus efforts on its new line of Xperia handsets that come with the most current version of Android 2.3 from the product Xperia (tm) Arc.
The devices that are already in the portfolio company's released so far, will keep the version 2.1 of the Android operating system..."
I believe that the devs will make the new update( like 2.2.1 for x10 )
i think that X10 series will get gingerbread,but X8 won't...
SE is just to lazy to customize the fws which get published of Google -.-
antimadridista1 said:
i think that X10 series will get gingerbread,but X8 won't...
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why u think that?
Well, I thinks it's false advertising, they won't update us soon, they insist telling us we won't have further updates. All we depend now are dev's from XDA, and specially those who made this site possible! I really admire you guys. And like many others I lost my trust in SE. Shame on them...
i think that X8 series will get gingerbread by someone.
I've tested Racht's 2.3 CM mod but I can't load it, keeps giving a strange graphic after boot animation :S but, anyway, it's 2.3.1 loading at our phone
I need it so much
I believe that's a fake message. If that's true then why did they skip Froyo ?
Arc will get 2.3 so eventually they add 2.3 to whole Xperia family.
x8 never update to 2.3
djtimon89 said:
x8 never update to 2.3
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By SE! We must wait for dev's to come out with a solution.
Compwxr said:
By SE! We must wait for dev's to come out with a solution.
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+1
hahah LOL LOL
Tehouster said:
+1
hahah LOL LOL
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broda, what's your secret??!! How did you get that filled-up thanks meter!?
mohakrastogi said:
broda, what's your secret??!! How did you get that filled-up thanks meter!?
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Look, I have 3 devices, just trying to help.

Latest xperia x10 update solved all problems

Hey all,
Latest xperia x10 update solved all problems, yesterday I was looking at one of the topics on how to make my xperia x10 multi touch, when I connected my phone SE PC Suit indicated that there is an update, so I did it. It was for the multi touch.
The funny part is that about two months ago I was trying to enable Arabic, today I realized that the Arabic font has changed, and I thought that the update was also for languages, guess what.. IT DID, now I have Arabic, multi touch and god knows what else.
I just wanted to share this information with you guys and ask you, if the same thing about the Arabic happened (or will be) on the HTC Desire HD?
There's a rom by Lee that supports arabic fonts. It's called LeeDroid ARA.
Anyway I didn't notice any improvement with the latest x10 firmware. Kernel sucks as usual
Honestly... how much is Sony Ericsson pays u to say good things abt them here?
OUT WITH IT!!!
Sent from my X10i
nonentity said:
Honestly... how much is Sony Ericsson pays u to say good things abt them here?
OUT WITH IT!!!
Sent from my X10i
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Depends on how much other competitive companies pay you to say bad things about SE
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not being rude but everyone has had mutli touch and so on months ago. you're a bit late.
mabaalkheil said:
Hey all,
Latest xperia x10 update solved all problems, yesterday I was looking at one of the topics on how to make my xperia x10 multi touch, when I connected my phone SE PC Suit indicated that there is an update, so I did it. It was for the multi touch.
The funny part is that about two months ago I was trying to enable Arabic, today I realized that the Arabic font has changed, and I thought that the update was also for languages, guess what.. IT DID, now I have Arabic, multi touch and god knows what else.
I just wanted to share this information with you guys and ask you, if the same thing about the Arabic happened (or will be) on the HTC Desire HD?
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you're a bit late for the information.
1st, its not a Multi Touch its a Dual Touch
2nd not all has been fix yet, In-call audio is not been fix...
MJ_QaT said:
Depends on how much other competitive companies pay you to say bad things about SE
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well said !!!! +1
Ok i don't want to say bad things about SE
As a Xperia X10 user, i disappointed on this SE news:
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2011/02/25/questions-and-answers-from-mwc2011/comment-page-1/#comments
From now on, if there is no good HTC phone, i will buy SS, SE can't make a smart phone. SE made well cyber-shot phone, walkman phone, but smart phone always need update.
An other thing...
To call it multitouch, is quite a stretch....
It is at most bad implemented crappy not functional DUAL touch...
Clearly you have never tried real multitouch...
Do your self a huge favour and buy a HTC, and you WILL discover the difference...
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4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42
For me, I like my white X10, I can't find anything like it on HTC or Samsung, which a lot of people here are praising. Stop crying on your wrong choice, SE got your money already, just move on. Ha! Ha! Ha!
My SE phones always functions correctly, what I hear about Samung/HTC phones is not positive. They dont always function correct. So I'm happy with my x10! And the dual touch works perfect. And yes I already used some real multi touch on other smartphones.
PLEASE DEVELOPERS CRACK THE BOOTLOADER!! YOU GUYS ARE OUR ONLY HOPE!
Lol that's bs... I had a htc hero before this and my gf has a desire z. Htc phones work just as well, maybe even better.
The only reason I switched was because I got my x10 for a really good price and because of the bigger processor.
@MJ_QaT: If that's the case why dun u ask ur dear SE to release 2.2 or 2.3 updates as we r already 2 steps behind and 2.1 apps r getting obsoleted, as well as releasing the bootloader and FPS while u r at it...
If SE releases all these, then I'll agree wif u abt their update services... until then, I keep talking bad abt them for other companies FOR FREE!!!
Sent from my X10i
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@MJ_QaT: If that's the case why dun u ask ur dear SE to release 2.2 or 2.3 updates as we r already 2 steps behind and 2.1 apps r getting obsoleted, as well as releasing the bootloader and FPS while u r at it...
If SE releases all these, then I'll agree wif u abt their update services... until then, I keep talking bad abt them for other companies FOR FREE!!!
Sent from my X10i
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So you are the victim? Um, pretty much every android gets one major OS upgrade, including HTC and Samsung, so the problem is that you made the wrong purchase. If having the latest OS version was so important, why did you buy the x10 which came with 1.6 and said "updateable to 2.1"?
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So you are the victim? Um, pretty much every android gets one major OS upgrade, including HTC and Samsung, so the problem is that you made the wrong purchase. If having the latest OS version was so important, why did you buy the x10 which came with 1.6 and said "updateable to 2.1"?
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Seriously, it is the shape and size and the way it fits on my palm... why did I buy when it already said upgradeable to 2.1? It didn't... when I bought it, it was just 1.6... when u bought the win 7, does it says that it will be upgradable to sp1 or 2? That's the same reason...
Sent from my X10i
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Seriously, it is the shape and size and the way it fits on my palm... why did I buy when it already said upgradeable to 2.1? It didn't... when I bought it, it was just 1.6... when u bought the win 7, does it says that it will be upgradable to sp1 or 2? That's the same reason...
Sent from my X10i
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That was my point. You bought it with 1.6(updateable to 2.1), so why are you whining about 2.2+?
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That was my point. You bought it with 1.6(updateable to 2.1), so why are you whining about 2.2+?
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The same reason when win7 sp1 was not distributed... and more and more softwares r starting to be obsoleting on 2.1... and if X10i is not on android platform, I wouldn't even bother to stop by and take a look...
Sent from my X10i
It solved nothing. I appreciate the improvements to mediascape, but the phone for me is a heck of alot slower. The Dual touch is basically useless and now my phone restarts constantly.
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@MJ_QaT: If that's the case why dun u ask ur dear SE to release 2.2 or 2.3 updates as we r already 2 steps behind and 2.1 apps r getting obsoleted, as well as releasing the bootloader and FPS while u r at it...
Sent from my X10i
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Alright, will that be with tomato or without?
If SE releases all these, then I'll agree wif u abt their update services... until then, I keep talking bad abt them for other companies FOR FREE!!!
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Just a phone man
and regarding their updating service they will provide it up to two years from production, but it doesn't mean they will Upgrade the OS to latest, it only means that if there were a bug to fix, they will release and update to fix it.
MJ_QaT said:
Just a phone man
and regarding their updating service they will provide it up to two years from production, but it doesn't mean they will Upgrade the OS to latest, it only means that if there were a bug to fix, they will release and update to fix it.
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By buying the phone, at the same time, r we not buying their services as well as their brands? Look at X2 for an instance... that phone was a total failure which only receive few updates and hangs even more than the earlier update...
I really hope that u r right man and also hoping that history dun repeat itself... if not, they are just saving the lastest for their next phone in order to market it...
Sent from my X10i

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