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The HTCANDROID project! Let's get it running!

Hey!
As i've previously mentioned here once (I think), i started a small forum where I tried to gather all the setups for running Android on various HTC models. Now that the HTC G1 (Dream) is soon released, we will will get some very interesting challenges while trying to build Android ROM's, etc..
This forum is great, but its also very big. Thought that it might be a good idea to have our android resources on a separate forum?
Anyways, thought i could register a domain and such, but for now the forum is at http://www.connect-utb.com/htcandroid
Some of you are there already! Hopefully, with the experienced user base we have here, we can get Android ROMS and whatnot for our HTC models, as the HTC Dream looks rather poor. (Although better devices will surely come in the future).

you must be joking. Android is a total OS unlike apps that we see all over which are portable among HTC devices. It takes months alone just to get Android as it is today for the kaiser. Mostly everything for WM can be ported among other devices which some exceptions to nontouch devices. It'll be a long time until you see Android ported over to more devices than now. My suggestion would be to use a device that's got android projects already in progress or at your nearest convenience to buy a device with android on it.

Think we misunderstand each other, but you dont believe that if we can extract the android ROM from the HTC Dream, and modify and install it on lets say, the Kaiser?

You can always try before saying that it isn't going to work.
I will track this post because i'm very curious by the Android OS.

I get it...and completely understand what this is about...it's HTC...which means theoretically we should be able to at least somewhat get it working...I've started a wizard thread on your new forum in hopes that any information or progress getting it ported over gets posted all in one location for easy access....kudo's for thinking ahead as I dont think android is going anywhere soon and while this forum is very useful it's mostly for winmo devices....nothing wrong with speading the wings a lil bit and branching out...
looking forward to the press conference!!

I would say we should be able to get Android to run on the OS level of our devices, but it will probably need a bit of modifying. However, since it's open source I'm hoping the modifying will be a lot easier because of this.

Hey,
I was just on HTC homepage ( htc.com ), where the G1 is shown.
They printed the specs, which are very similar to the diamond
Same chipset, same rom size, same ram size,...
SO I think, it would be ( maybe easily?) possible to port android to the diamond
greets doena

WatskeBart said:
I will track this post because i'm very curious by the Android OS.
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Same here!

If my memory does not fail, I remember that one of the first peaks at Android was being run in a Blue Angel. So, I guess there is a big chance that we might in fact be able to see Android running on more than one device (of course, you will have more or less features depending on the device's capabilities and hardware limitations, namely apps that work with an accelerometer, etc).
Maybe, the development should be worth following because as much as I don't want to believe it, my device (Blue Angel) will only trick death for so long (by death I mean not being able to move to newer versions of WM) and we will need a way to pass the time .

HTC Touch Vogue in progress of being ported
Hey don't forget about the senior member "DZO" that started ANDROID porting to HTC Vogue and it is Successful
This is his direct link to the files : http://cs-alb-pc3.massey.ac.nz/vogue
And here is the link to the posting: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382265
I think he did a GREAT job porting Android. I am running Android 0.9 with most of the featuress except installing programs but only because he is the only one that does that. So, he needs help! I am sure... Plus, on this site people are cheeping in for HTC Diamond so he can work on that too...
Here is the link: http://www.myhtcphone.com
So, if you want something done we should start by contributing either money, or programming support! I wish I knew how to program this
ahhhh I wish I would have fully functional Android on my HTC

Thanks for the support! The forums are slightly active now!
Hopefully, we will be able to get Android running more or less flawless soon! As pointed out, its possible!

he he nice link, it seems that there are allready htc devices running with android.

just wondering, is it possible to have dual boot in one device ?

hmmm, seems to have no desktop syncing.. this may be a huge set back for anyone trying to get androig running on another HTC device.

crescentsaber said:
just wondering, is it possible to have dual boot in one device ?
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well currently (or in the case of the vogue) android is being booted via haret (a linux bootloaded) running on top of windows mobile.. so i guess its already kind of dual boot

For now, Android has to be run from within Windows Mobile, so no true dual boot yet

Already started
Hey you guys might want to check out the following links. Over at PPC Geeks they already have a thread going:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=23244
Also if you want to download the current Android cab for HTC go to:
http://www.myhtcphone.com/

doena said:
Hey,
I was just on HTC homepage ( htc.com ), where the G1 is shown.
They printed the specs, which are very similar to the diamond
Same chipset, same rom size, same ram size,...
SO I think, it would be ( maybe easily?) possible to port android to the diamond
greets doena
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Diamond doesnt have QWERTY keyboard, so i think it could be on Touch Pro instead

Someone ported Android for BlueAngel?
Please can someone tell me if Android is already running in BlueAngel? If there is a way show me how. Thanks Man!!!

Maybe I'm mistaken, but wasn't Android made so that it can run on a wide range of devices. I, for one, can't wait till its ported to samsung omnia. Damn, that would be good!
@Coldheat,
What does the cab file do? Its an OS, so cab file??

[CLOSED] ANDROID/MAEMO/LINUX on HD2:) [NO MORE ACTIVE!!]

Im not going to update this thread anymore.
It has been a terrible experience here.
All the updates from now on will be on irc channel ..
I hope everyone will be happy and excited about this closure.
Cheers.

Cant we have dual boot on the HD2. it will be cool to have android 2.0 and windows 6.5 on the phone, it will surely kick some ass. and do you think that this phone is upgradable to windows 7

Only possible for dual boot as you need to run harret to get it to boot into linux - android stuff.

Acer Liquid, coming on november will bring Android powered by a Snapdragon processor and wvga screen, I don´t know how it works but maybe it´s rom could be ported easier to HD2? and adding the Sense ui from Hero? I´m sorry I know it´s not easy, but since I´m not a developer I just can see these steps inside my head

kindadevil said:
Acer Liquid, coming on november will bring Android powered by a Snapdragon processor and wvga screen, I don´t know how it works but maybe it´s rom could be ported easier to HD2? and adding the Sense ui from Hero? I´m sorry I know it´s not easy, but since I´m not a developer I just can see these steps inside my head
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And what if I tell you that's posible

heres the qsd git https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/q...ortlog;h=refs/heads/aosp/android-msm8k-2.6.29 , cant wait till this gets to a bootable form =], my acer f1 is arriving tomorrow xD.

xmoo said:
And what if I tell you that's posible
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Cool! I like WinMo, but I would prefer to try Android, and since no hardware is better than HD2´s, and new possibilities to port Android successfully are coming, I think a new monster could be born here

yes, i`m definitally for this thing.... there will be no problem if leo won`t support wm7, if it will be able to run android...

In fact it will support wm7, but thats up to the OEM's if they want to release a wm7 test rom for these cortex 8 devices =].

HTC have says no to android on HD2, so if its going to happen your going to have to do it yourself.

What would be required? Android 1.6+ supports other CPUs including Snapdragon so what else is required to get it to work with Android? Would be very neat.

xmoo said:
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that would be great, but what makes you so shure??

who wants andorid 1.6 on the hd2. what we want is the full version of android 2.0

Definitly 2.0

maybe the release of a htc android device with the same hardware as the hd2 will make it easier for developers - but better off getting in the mindset that it won't work
the hero has the same processor as the hd1 doesn't it (and android development on that seems very difficult and slow)?

heromilkshake said:
Definitly 2.0
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that would make me forget my iphone and buy a hd2

shure2 said:
maybe the release of a htc android device with the same hardware as the hd2 will make it easier for developers - but better off getting in the mindset that it won't work
the hero has the same processor as the hd1 doesn't it (and android development on that seems very difficult and slow)?
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yeh but look at the possibilities of where we were and where we are today. progress is being made every day now, i hope you go throught the irclogs if so, and it takes time to achieve every goal. a seed doesnt grow into a tree in a day, it takes time and thats whats being talked here. so it wont be hard enough for us to get to the deep of the phone when it comes. cheers.

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yeh but look at the possibilities of where we were and where we are today. progress is being made every day now, i hope you go throught the irclogs if so, and it takes time to achieve every goal. a seed doesnt grow into a tree in a day, it takes time and thats whats being talked here. so it wont be hard enough for us to get to the deep of the phone when it comes. cheers.
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it would be good to see the progress.. I have read the last few pages on the blackstone and haven't seen anything from the developers. Last update was the 18th where it went back from v1.6 to v1.5?
I can't see why time is being devoted to 1.5, surely the focus should be to work on the most up to date version of android than taking a step back.
Obviously i'm not a developer for the android project on the hd1, but if one comes to the hd2 I will donate to a project with quicker progess on android 1.6, preferably 2.0.....

I have one of these HD2's on pre-order just for this reason I hope I can get something accomplished, and am willing to work on flashing and dumping things
if anyone so asks, as soon as I have it in hand.
Ill be working on it myself too.

borillion_star said:
I have one of these HD2's on pre-order just for this reason I hope I can get something accomplished, and am willing to work on flashing and dumping things
if anyone so asks, as soon as I have it in hand.
Ill be working on it myself too.
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wow .. so do i man !! im buying only for the sole pupose of seeing android on this phone

HTC HD2 & Android

To all the gurus here at XDA I am getting the HTC EVO 4g tomorrow, but I really don't like the carrier for this amazing unit so I am considering bring it back since I like Tmobile better. My question is, if I purchase the HD2 and root it will i be able to load Android 2.1 in it?
Please advise
Thanks to all of you in advance

Please read the forum posts for this.

at the moment u cant load android on the hd2!
dcordes and the other guys who r working on the "linux on htc hd2" project made a functional kernel but there isnt a working android version yet. it will take a while until they will get android on it. i really dont know how much time it will take but it could take 1 year more or less i think.

It could be a very long time before there's a port thats as functional as a phone made for android. There still isn't a perfect android port for any winmo phone yet, and some of them have had android being developed for years. If you want to use android full time, get an android phone, not a winmo phone. Even if there's a bootable port soon for the hd2, it won't be very functional and wont be able to use some of the phones hardware (bluetooth, wifi, camera, etc). I'm not expecting a fully functional port for a year or 2.... if ever.

Sorry for my ignorance, what will i be able to do by rooting this hd2, i really don't like windows mobile

do some research!!!

Going to start swearing at people soon,
Surely if Android had made it on to the HD2 it would have been all over the NET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You can somehow manage to put your new EVO hardware into a HD2 body and there you go you got the first full funciton running Android HD2.
Not even if you search here you could get answer but you could even google and it will direct you here.

riverajuan said:
Sorry for my ignorance, what will i be able to do by rooting this hd2, i really don't like windows mobile
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You are confusing a lot of things here. You can't root a windows mobile phone the way you mean for Android. What you can do is to install an SPL or Hard SPL that allows you the flixibility to load up customised roms, ie customised windows operating systems, onto your winmobile device, ie HD2.
You have got a lot of reading ahead of you before you can make any sort of decision and start to do things to your phone that could seriously injure its health! The first decision you need to make is whether you want to go down the Android route or Winmobile.
Once you have the answer to this you can start to do your research and learning in the appropriate fora.
Hope this helps.
Moving this to General/Q&A.
WB

shut up!!!!!!
i'm realley getting annoyed of this threads.
can't there be a filter for apple, iphone, and android

SEARCH GOD DAMN IT

riverajuan said:
To all the gurus here at XDA I am getting the HTC EVO 4g tomorrow, but I really don't like the carrier for this amazing unit so I am considering bring it back since I like Tmobile better. My question is, if I purchase the HD2 and root it will i be able to load Android 2.1 in it?
Please advise
Thanks to all of you in advance
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I refuse to answer your question because of this - CLICK ON THIS LINK

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I refuse to answer your question because of this - CLICK ON THIS LINK
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THANKYOU, thats made my day...

Thread Closed! Will the samsung focus have an android development?

ive noticed the galaxyS/Captivate and the Focus are very similar in hardware except for the memory card syncing with the phone itself and the cpu focus:snapdragon / galaxys/captivate hummingbird, so i was wondering if anyone is working on it already or maybe attempting to gather information on a new beginning for this phones journey into xda

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ive noticed the galaxyS/Captivate and the Focus are very similar in hardware except for the memory card syncing with the phone itself and the cpu focus:snapdragon / galaxys/captivate hummingbird, so i was wondering if anyone is working on it already or maybe attempting to gather information on a new beginning for this phones journey into xda
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I havent heard anything about anyone trying to port android to the focus or any WP7 phones yet...but it may come in the future...im not sure if its possible or not...but im pretty sure these XDA devs can make it happen.

i hope xda is the first i might not post much and lurk more but if its any site i want to see catch a big fish its here <3

dahrat said:
i hope xda is the first i might not post much and lurk more but if its any site i want to see catch a big fish its here <3
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If anybody does it first it will be here!

android on WP7
Theoretically is possible now that the WP7 is jailbraked.... it just has to be installed as a partition on the drive, as we can no longer run it from within WP7 and get all its features running. This is because WP7 will not let you stop processes that belong to other apps like phone or the UI so android can be booted like we do on WM (correct me if I'm wrong.....I don't think I am). Also the encoding of wp7 storage is tricky and partitioning it is hard....ask the guys trying to install WP7 on the HD2.....I'm pretty sure that we will see it done very soon as it only needs a loader program in the beginning of the phone to choose your operating system...like we see when we have Linux and windows on our PC.
As for the other part of this is the drivers that are not developed in droid for the focus.....maybe the captivate looks like the same phone but inside can be a hole new ball game. We have a led flash on our cameras which something tells me the camera is not the same. The captivate have a hummingbird processor as the focus has a snapdragon (but i don't think this would be a problem as a lot of other DROIDs have snapdragon). Samsung maybe just "semi-cloned" the look of the device because the captivate is one of the most selling phones they got. The internals can be completely different

Hi All
I was hoping someone might know if there has been any development on the Samsung Focus as far as getting Android on to it and getting WP7 off?
I've got the option of taking a Captivate but I really like the SnapDragons and I prefer the outer case of the Focus.
Anyone heard anything more about Android on the Focus recently?

Anyone know? I'm going to give this phone back today if not as I have searched and searched and can't find anything on it :-(

Latz said:
I've got the option of taking a Captivate but I really like the SnapDragons and I prefer the outer case of the Focus.
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Why? Hummingbird is faster than SnapDragon in many ways (the only reason Focus does not use Hummingbird is because WP7 only support SnapDragon chip at this time). If you want Android, get Captivate or other Android phones. There is no sense to spend money to buy a WP7 phone and hack it that way. Although Android is open source, phone hardware drivers are not. Devs can only working on getting ROMs assembled using phones with similar hardware. But Samsung never has any Snapdragon android phone before.

LOL how would you go about partitioning off the memory? With the way WP7 integrate external memory with the internal memory? Thus there would be no storage because you can't even see anything stored on the SD. Androids also run on a 4 button system, WP7's have only 3. Some of the hardware isn't the same, and even every galaxy class phone has diffrent hardware. Go buy and android phone or an HD2 if you hell bent on running 2 OS. Also if you would've read the WP7 development forum as to why not to ask this question you'd know why they are not doing it.

Here's your answer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=949042

foxbat121 said:
There is no sense to spend money to buy a WP7 phone and hack it that way.
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There's plenty of sense if you prefer the look of the phone over the android equivalent? Besides, a lot of us (including me) bought the HTC HD2 as a WinMo then changed it to run Android when we could have just bought Android phones?
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.......Devs can only working on getting ROMs assembled using phones with similar hardware.........
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They managed to get Android working on the HD2 which has a Snapdragon?

ITDRAGON said:
LOL how would you go about partitioning off the memory? With the way WP7 integrate external memory with the internal memory? Thus there would be no storage because you can't even see anything stored on the SD. Androids also run on a 4 button system, WP7's have only 3. Some of the hardware isn't the same, and even every galaxy class phone has diffrent hardware. Go buy and android phone or an HD2 if you hell bent on running 2 OS. Also if you would've read the WP7 development forum as to why not to ask this question you'd know why they are not doing it.
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I'm sorry I must be missing something? all the link says is to read the stickies, would you mind pointing me to the forum that they are referring to? I have searched but mustn't be typing in the correct string...
Oh, on the point of WP7's memory allocation - I think you need to read up on it a bit more too as there is a way you can seperate the SD.
Got a captivate yesterday anyway... not sure if I'll keep it though, might move to the Desire HD - it's much more like my HD2 which I really liked.

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They managed to get Android working on the HD2 which has a Snapdragon?
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Because the HD2 Android counter part, EVO, is a Snapdragon phone. I said Samsung does not have a Snapdragon Android phone out there. It is very difficult to use ROM parts from other manufacturers.
Remember Devs are mostly called Chefs. They mix and pick different parts and assemble them into ROMs. They are not developing them like from source code to ROMs. They can only work on the parts that are offered by phone makers, not from scratch.

Thread Closed! Hardware may be very similar but the architecture is very different. Would be too much of a time consuming job regardless for the moment. This question has also been asked many times. Please search the Windows Phone 7 related forums before posting. Thanks.

[Q] HD2 or Samsung Vibrant?? Please help

Ok I know it's been a lot of threads on this subject already but none of them is tellin ==g me what i wanna know because the threads are so old and the hd2 as come a long way with being able to run Androi and WinM7. Now I have had an HD2 in the past when android was the only os being worked on and wasnt fully working. But now reading that Android is pretty much working fully on it and WinM7 can be ran on it almost perfect also. I mean as far as specs and things. I have an Samsung Vibrant right now, I love this phone and I also loved the HD2 when i had it I would also wanna try to give the WinM7 a try but don't wanna buy a new phone just to play with a new OS. Thanks for the help.

if cotulla pick samsung vibrant I would pick samsung vibrant tooo
so my answer is HD2

samsung vibrant undoubtedly

ok and why do you suggest that

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ok and why do you suggest that
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Because you're asking in an HD2 forum.

reds28heem said:
Ok I know it's been a lot of threads on this subject already but none of them is tellin ==g me what i wanna know because the threads are so old and the hd2 as come a long way with being able to run Androi and WinM7. Now I have had an HD2 in the past when android was the only os being worked on and wasnt fully working. But now reading that Android is pretty much working fully on it and WinM7 can be ran on it almost perfect also. I mean as far as specs and things. I have an Samsung Vibrant right now, I love this phone and I also loved the HD2 when i had it I would also wanna try to give the WinM7 a try but don't wanna buy a new phone just to play with a new OS. Thanks for the help.
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i have samsung vibrant it is a nice phone but i doesnt have much development infact vibrant still doesnt have a working gingerbread rom most of them are gingerbread clones... so i traded my vibrant and puchase a htc hd2 from ebay as this device has lot of potential and it can run wp7 android meego and ubuntu + it has a very good dev support on xda....

ok thanks and i was asking on this forum beause it mainly is about the hd2.

reds28heem said:
ok thanks and i was asking on this forum beause it mainly is about the hd2.
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HD2 is way better than most phones. It's robust, proven and moreover it can run almost all Mobile OS as well as Ubuntu. If you are just one of the regular customers who doesn't like to tinker with the phone any phone is good but if you are into tinkering HD2 all the way.

Yes i like to mess around with my phone and play with different OS's and before when I had the Hd2 i loved it because of the screen size and and a few other things. I love the Vibrant also but i would also wanna play around with the WinM7 software. I mean if I already own the Vibrant would it really be worth it to trade or sell it to get a HD2. Whats the trade off if I get the HD2 other than that the HD2 can pretty much run any OS. Would I be down grading as far as specs and memory.

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Yes i like to mess around with my phone and play with different OS's and before when I had the Hd2 i loved it because of the screen size and and a few other things. I love the Vibrant also but i would also wanna play around with the WinM7 software. I mean if I already own the Vibrant would it really be worth it to trade or sell it to get a HD2. Whats the trade off if I get the HD2 other than that the HD2 can pretty much run any OS. Would I be down grading as far as specs and memory.
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Downgrading no absolutly no hd2 has a 1ghz snapdragon and the vibrant has a 1ghz humming bird processor about the same a large portion of android phones carry the snapdragon processor and imo the hd2 was ahead of its time when it was released cause it still keeps up with all the in coming phones even the droid well sorta ja ja ja (still an hd2 can be over clocked up to 1.5 ghz) so i would definetly go with hd2 seeing as you like to tinker and you can run android as well with little to no flaws atleast not on the build i have

ok thnks i think im oing to make the move.