No one here is owed anything. I don't care if you click the "thanks" button, or the the "donate" button.
NO ONE HERE, OWES YOU, ANYTHING!
So if you do this, forget you.
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I will no longer be partaking of any further development for the atrix, and you will prob see the same story of a lot of developers pretty soon!
FCM will continue to support Atrix.
Wow. Whoever posted that tweet really is a prick. Sorry that you had to go through with that, T0d.
Man that sucks. I for one really appreciate your work and think you are a real asset to the community. I have used 3 different fruitcakes that worked perfectly.
Hope you don't leave, but if you do then thanks for everything you did.
Leave it to a few douche bags to chase off some of the XDA's valuable resources.
Without the devs, this phone would be nothing short of craptacular.
That bites hard, but please don't take it out on everyone else, for a couple of other people's mishaps. There's people here that don't complain, that try to help the others that don't even bother to search or read and people that are genuinely grateful for all of your guys work.
Furthermore, let's face it, no matter where you go or what you do, there will always be people that are ungrateful, but we shouldn't let them affect us, for if we do, we won't ever get anything accomplished...we might as well live off the grid somewhere.
Again though, please don't let a few pesky bugs take you away from the fruit that is...the Motorola Atrix... Haha
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Lmao Sam <3
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And everyone here thinks exactly the same way that that guy thinks right? Guess what.. people are idiots. It's too bad you're just willing to give up because a select few people... obviously trolls are writing you messages on twitter. Now unless there's another reason, like a new device that you got. Or you're just giving up developing for you're own personal reason.. that's fine. Thanks for all your hard work. But honestly, if your gonna get all upset over someone being an idiot on the internet, you should probably not go on the internet. There really are a lot of people on here that appreciate your hard work. But there are WAY more people that will be disappointed because you got a little upset over someone, that you don't even know, will probably never meet, and will never say something to you again, writing a stupid message on twitter. Put things in perspective. Cause there's a lot of us that are really thankful for your work. But don't expect the parade of OMFG BEST DEV EVAR DONT [email protected][email protected]#@! from this guy.
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And everyone here thinks exactly the same way that that guy thinks right? Guess what.. people are idiots. It's too bad you're just willing to give up because a select few people... obviously trolls are writing you messages on twitter. Now unless there's another reason, like a new device that you got. Or you're just giving up developing for you're own personal reason.. that's fine. Thanks for all your hard work. But honestly, if your gonna get all upset over someone being an idiot on the internet, you should probably not go on the internet. There really are a lot of people on here that appreciate your hard work. But there are WAY more people that will be disappointed because you got a little upset over someone, that you don't even know, will probably never meet, and will never say something to you again, writing a stupid message on twitter. Put things in perspective. Cause there's a lot of us that are really thankful for your work. But don't expect the parade of OMFG BEST DEV EVAR DONT [email protected][email protected]#@! from this guy.
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lol this guy is funny ^^^^ a lot of this on xda.
samcripp said:
No one here is owed anything. I don't care if you click the "thanks" button, or the the "donate" button.
NO ONE HERE, OWES YOU, ANYTHING!
So if you do this, forget you.
I will no longer be partaking of any further development for the atrix, and you will prob see the same story of a lot of developers pretty soon!
FCM will continue to support Atrix.
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Take it out on a whole group of people because of one person. You should edit the post to. "if one person does this, forget all of you"
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And i never said I wasn't appreciative of your work, I use it all the time and I'm very thankful for it. But to get all tight butthole over what... maybe what 10 people out of a community of thousands have said, just doesn't seem very rational to me.
I wouldn't get pissed if you left. It's your work. I would completely understand.
I have to wear safety equipment at work cause one person ruined it for everyone else. That's life. Lesson learned.
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Take it out on a whole group of people because of one person. You should edit the post to. "if one person does this, forget all of you"
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And i never said I wasn't appreciative of your work, I use it all the time and I'm very thankful for it. But to get all tight butthole over what... maybe what 10 people out of a community of thousands have said, just doesn't seem very rational to me.
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Ive been around here since pretty much day one of atrix comunity. This is not 10 of thousands. more like hundreds out of hundreds. if you like ill begin linking, the hundreds upon thousands of post pms, and twits where this community has over and over shown their extreme lack of kindness. this post is an attempt to communicate the frustration felt by every dev in this forum, not just me. (thats why if you look devs are clicking "thanks") and you proceed to flame. you are example to why little by little, all those devs who press "thanks", will say forget it.
Agreed with the above few posters.
If every dev responded the same way to criticism or just to negative/nagging comments - there would be NO custom ROMs being developed anymore and cyanogen would have thrown in the towel a long time ago as well.
I appreciate the work, of course! But come on, at least give a better excuse for leaving. I'd rather him have lied to us and say he doesnt have time due to a new job or something.
As a matter of fact, this applies to almost everything that exists. Android would stop being developed, no more new cars would come out, because there will always be nagging people around.
sam, this isnt a reflection on the ATRIX community in particular. For all you know, other communities could be the exact same and probably worse, but devs continue.
Its VERY unfortunate that you and other devs have to deal with those kinds of people.
It's not a fact of criticism. It's a fact of people being so entitled they think they deserve everything this minute without them being of any help. Most devs do this for free, for fun. And to be honest when you get a response like this it makes you go, why am I doing this and consider going somewhere else.
Furthermore I can say that the Atrix forums are the only one's I've seen that have this level of entitlement. It's a shame. I'm active in the Galaxy Tab 8.9 and Galaxy Nexus forums and nothing of this magnitude happens.
We always welcome criticism, bugs, etc. However they should be for the betterment of the community and because you feel entitle to something you pay NOTHING for and support in no manner other than moaning and complaining. By all means, please report bugs, issues and things you'd like to see changed, these are of great help to s. However there are not ETA's, there are not milestones. We all have real lives and real jobs that we have to maintain.
If you don't like that, then fork cm yourself and make the changes yourself. Then you can only complain to yourself when you haven't done it fast enough. I challenge anyone here to try and run a business full time, which I know I and at least one of the member of the team do, in addition to the other members having full times jobs, families, wives, children and interests outside the Android community they wish to pursue and still be able to do the level of development that that is done by the great developers here on XDA. Try it, you WILL change you attitude and opinion.
guys troll all you want , it really wasn't a thread to argue about he should stay, he should go, he should get mad , he should not. What the original post was about is simple, he was relaying information and giving one example of why he was fed up and leaving. See he is being kind and explaining it to people here and citing a reason, he could have approached it like many of your ex girlfriends , just stop calling, answering her phone , not coming around , over all just ignoring you till you give up and go else where. but realizing that no one likes to be treated this way he posted a viable reason here. Now we got got a bunch of jaded lovers trying to take final pokes and shots at him or other devs because what it makes you feel better ? it makes you more right than him ? get a clue guys Sam called it quits its over hes not taking you back, and the reason is you!
No
Furthermore I can say that the Atrix forums are the only one's I've seen that have this level of entitlement. It's a shame. I'm active in the Galaxy Tab 8.9 and Galaxy Nexus forums and nothing of this magnitude happens.
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Disagreed, I've seen much worse.
I'm glad this is back to some school lessons from 30 years ago where when some people act out that everyone has to be punished.
Just link us to the contact info of the nagging people and the rest of the Atrix community will let them have it
I find it hard to believe that atrix owners are somehow more likely to be dicks than any other device owner, but maybe something was secretly baked into this phone that subconsciously triggers the buy reflex in a$$holes.
get a clue guys Sam called it quits its over hes not taking you back, and the reason is you!
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lol, soft
"its not me, its you"
okay
Personally I believe people who do this are those who are new to the Android scene. Those who either just came from iPhone or old "nonsmart" phones. From what i've seen around the forums, those who've been doing this for a while never do that. I came from a Nexus One when it was first released on AT&T for like $600. Sure, I used to ask for ETA on **** too, but i learned quickly not to.
But acting like a complete idiot towards a well respected developer? Ha! Dumb as they come! Sorry SamCripp, but i understand. This phone is at the end of its life span anyways. You did a fantastic job here and will be missed <3
*facepalm* why can't some see that they're only making it worse??? "/ ay yi yi yi yi *in my Alpha voice*
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I think XDA should have their own "developers" group.members will have thier profiles private and inaccessible to normal users. I've seen some forums implement this
@sam
Really sad to see you go.Trolls will be trolls.But i do get that it becomes in-bearable over a certain limit
Thanks for all your work so far.we genuinely mean it
As for all the wise asses on this thread. go **** yourself
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I say we post here asking for the two jerk offs that are destroying this dev forum to be ban from this community pleas show your support with a simple “ ban this jerk off”
Please Mods Ban this guy
jdkoreclipse
and his little butt buddy also he is nothing but a pain in our neck
And thank you to all the legit devs that have taken the task of conquering the droid x and for all the hard work you are still putting in cant wait to see the progress over the coming months
couple of links for you to read just showing a portion of this guys spam and the effect he has on our community
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=763477
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7818595&postcount=106
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...&postcount=108
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=762527
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=763384
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=761938
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7812468&postcount=97
mods please ban, i visit other forums for jokes, not xda
regardless to how common knowledge their bs is perhaps you should post some links etc
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I thought we are trying to hack some cell phones here. Who the hell do you think you are making a thread "in android development" that is trying to ban someone! This thread should be taken down ASAP!
andre104623 said:
I thought we are trying to hack some cell phones here. Who the hell do you think you are making a thread "in android development" that is trying to ban someone! This thread should be taken down ASAP!
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im no one special i just see tons of post by this guy disrupting the community and i am no dev but eithier is this guy but he claims to be and spams our community with multiple accounts he is nothing but trouble
people like this are the reason xda has been slowly receeding from the android community as a creditable source that is sad because we have a lot of talent floating around here and there used to be productive convos on this forum
andre104623 said:
I thought we are trying to hack some cell phones here. Who the hell do you think you are making a thread "in android development" that is trying to ban someone! This thread should be taken down ASAP!
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Agreed...this is the crap we need out of the dev forum. Mods please move...
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im no one special i just see tons of post by this guy disrupting the community and i am no dev but eithier is this guy but he claims to be and spams our community with multiple accounts he is nothing but trouble
people like this are the reason xda has been slowly receeding from the android community as a creditable source that is sad because we have a lot of talent floating around here and there used to be productive convos on this forum
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That's not your job
i know its not my job because if it was this guy would be gone
grndnpnd said:
im no one special i just see tons of post by this guy disrupting the community and i am no dev but eithier is this guy but he claims to be and spams our community with multiple accounts he is nothing but trouble
people like this are the reason xda has been slowly receeding from the android community as a creditable source that is sad because we have a lot of talent floating around here and there used to be productive convos on this forum
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Im not supporting this person doing this **** but try to understand this is for android development of the droid x not some kind of blog
and what do you call what he is doing do you see the 2000 views he has had on his bs thread about a droid x rom that makes everyone that is working hard to put something out look bad man we cant let him keep getting away with this its not his first time nor on his first device go read the 100+ post on his dominate rom post in your android dev forum i dont see you over there telling him to stop
The mods have stepped in now i dont know how to remove a thread but i would be more than happy to do so i appologize if i offended you but that kid had to go man
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and what do you call what he is doing do you see the 2000 views he has had on his bs thread about a droid x rom that makes everyone that is working hard to put something out look bad man we cant let him keep getting away with this its not his first time nor on his first device go read the 100+ post on his dominate rom post in your android dev forum i dont see you over there telling him to stop
The mods have stepped in now i dont know how to remove a thread but i would be more than happy to do so i appologize if i offended you but that kid had to go man
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Well Im going to be blunt about this He is a sick **** that likes getting his kicks off by posting fake threads, he is a dumb ass, a lier, and a ****. But even if he gets baned and he will because he has got baned before he will make a new screen name and do it all over again
It is pretty pathetic that his posts go to such an extent that he even puts lengthy changelogs for roms he never even makes.
I think we should all cut him a break and let him stay. I feel kinda bad for a kid thats got nothing else to do. I mean come on, its got to be really bad for him if thats what he calls fun. So sad....Im actually gonna cry a bit. Nevermind I got over it.
This keeps getting weirder. Looking at OP's post history, and I can't help but think that it's actually the same kid. I truly think we're dealing with a troubled young person who has unsupervised 'net access.
This should be moved to "General" forum or something. It honestly doesn't belong in the Dev section. Although it was entertaining.
**** all of you haters...especially arronjb and andre ****face.....
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aaronjb said:
This keeps getting weirder. Looking at OP's post history, and I can't help but think that it's actually the same kid. I truly think we're dealing with a troubled young person who has unsupervised 'net access.
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im not the same kid lol
what about my post history ok i have said some stupid things not understanding (Efuse) but i admit i dont understand and i take the things that people say and learn from them. i never claim to work on a project i dont have the know how to complete or even start.
never have i been a burdon to this community being slightly ignorant in the programing and hardware aspect of these devices and os is not a crime and i have always felt the it was incouraged to learn here. so thats what im doing learning im not a devoloper and never have claimed to be one i have offered up my device for testing because i can afford to replace my device if it bricks because i want to see the droid x become as custamizable one day as my poor excuse for an android eris but w/e man think what you will
i am normaly a silent observer and donator so step off bro
This kid really does need the boot, he does nothing but bring drama to this community and this site. He needs to be banned not only for what he's done, but what he might do in the future, he's a virus. There are far too many good people here that want to learn and share info with each other, but this kid basically ruins it for the rest of us. Please do us all a favor and get rid of him(and get rid of him again when he makes a new screen name).
Booooot him!
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This isnt the way to handle the situation guys........you are feeding his addiction, how much you want to bet he's sitting there mashing the f5 button anxsiouly waiting to see what everyone is saying about him? After reading his thread about making a Nexus One kernel, I do agree it is getting out of hand but this truly is a job for the mods, the community IS his addicition, and all we are doing is feeding it. I wish I had a solution but after typing a few and then deleting them while typing this post I realize I am at a loss. Even if we all agreed to ignore him, what about the people who are visiting xda for the first time??? I have been visiting the Droid X forum daily since its inception here at xda(day oner), and it saddens me greatly to see this lunacy has spread from the Incredible forum which I have also frequented for some time.
How is this thread not locked yet?
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You got drama in my Android development!
I would also support the deletion of this thread.
Haha. i remember this guy from when I had an N1, and yet I'm so naive that he got me again. His act does kind of put a damper on things, but I agree with those who think that he is less of ****ty person than he is a troubled person in need of attention. In fact, while this thread obviously doesn't belong in the Dev forum (or xda at all for that matter), I find this situation fascinating. He would make a great case study for my Master's thesis.
Call this a rant or whatever you want, but I need to get this off my chest cuz its starting to make me sick. There is WAY too much frickin complaining going on in this forum. I can't speak for other forums cuz most of my time is spent here. The developers here don't have any obligation to share their work with us. They do it voluntarily and for free. Do you really think *****ing is gonna accomplish anything? Do you think developers appreciate that? I know the developers here are too smart to be influenced by ungrateful users, but its still ridiculous to see. If you don't like the way the developers handle their work, run the Froyo OTA and be done with it. See how well a massive corporation's work stacks up. This community cares more about what these phones can do for us than Sprint and HTC combined. Think about that the next time you feel like lodging a complaint. Not trying to start anything but I feel this needs to be said.
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I agree but there are alot of topics like this and they disapear just as quickly as they were made.
Ps. Arent you *****ing about *****ing? Sounds kind of like I don't like picketing so im going to picket picketers(sp?)
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echoside said:
I agree but there are alot of topics like this and they disapear just as quickly as they were made.
Ps. Arent you *****ing about *****ing? Sounds kind of like I don't like picketing so im going to picket picketers(sp?)
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Yea, threads like this only spam up the board more. Not even the developers themselves are writing crap like this.
Please no more of these threads or random outbursts in threads. No ones forcing anyone to read anything, and anyone literally getting angry over posters posting about 2.2 root has a problem. Annoyed is one thong, but this thread is angry.
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Call this a rant or whatever you want, but I need to get this off my chest cuz its starting to make me sick. There is WAY too much frickin complaining going on in this forum. I can't speak for other forums cuz most of my time is spent here. The developers here don't have any obligation to share their work with us. They do it voluntarily and for free. Do you really think *****ing is gonna accomplish anything? Do you think developers appreciate that? I know the developers here are too smart to be influenced by ungrateful users, but its still ridiculous to see. If you don't like the way the developers handle their work, run the Froyo OTA and be done with it. See how well a massive corporation's work stacks up. This community cares more about what these phones can do for us than Sprint and HTC combined. Think about that the next time you feel like lodging a complaint. Not trying to start anything but I feel this needs to be said.
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"Only the Sith deal in absolutes." a famous Jedi once said.
You just gotta love a rant about too much comlpaining!
LOL I love the irony of this thread.
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Yea, threads like this only spam up the board more. Not even the developers themselves are writing crap like this.
Please no more of these threads or random outbursts in threads. No ones forcing anyone to read anything, and anyone literally getting angry over posters posting about 2.2 root has a problem. Annoyed is one thong, but this thread is angry.
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You're right about one thing, I was angry. However, this wasn't a rant about people asking for a Froyo root, not sure where you got that from. It was about people who show no appreciation for the ones doing all the work here. I wasn't just complaining about complaining. I was complaining about people that expect everything to be handed to them and then whine when things don't go their way. Getting this off my chest was all. I feel like I have a right to do that.
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Call this a rant or whatever you want, but I need to get this off my chest cuz its starting to make me sick. There is WAY too much frickin complaining going on in this forum. I can't speak for other forums cuz most of my time is spent here. The developers here don't have any obligation to share their work with us. They do it voluntarily and for free. Do you really think *****ing is gonna accomplish anything? Do you think developers appreciate that? I know the developers here are too smart to be influenced by ungrateful users, but its still ridiculous to see. If you don't like the way the developers handle their work, run the Froyo OTA and be done with it. See how well a massive corporation's work stacks up. This community cares more about what these phones can do for us than Sprint and HTC combined. Think about that the next time you feel like lodging a complaint. Not trying to start anything but I feel this needs to be said.
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Not being rude or anything like that, but have you stepped outside into the real world lately. Complaining isnt limited to this forum and phones in general. It is done everywhere, you hear it at work, at school, at home, you name it people are there complaining, you just have to take it in stride and not lose your cool.
This thread is hilarious. This is a cell phone forum. I could care less about what people do on here. I go online to learn things I don't know about and have fun. If you are tired of reading about people don't open the thread. Pretty simple.
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You're right about one thing, I was angry. However, this wasn't a rant about people asking for a Froyo root, not sure where you got that from. It was about people who show no appreciation for the ones doing all the work here. I wasn't just complaining about complaining. I was complaining about people that expect everything to be handed to them and then whine when things don't go their way. Getting this off my chest was all. I feel like I have a right to do that.
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Master Po ... what is ego?
Joeriginal said:
Not being rude or anything like that, but have you stepped outside into the real world lately. Complaining isnt limited to this forum and phones in general. It is done everywhere, you hear it at work, at school, at home, you name it people are there complaining, you just have to take it in stride and not lose your cool.
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Yes I have. I deal with constant complaining from someone I work with everyday and ive always ignored it and nothing ever changed. After finally getting fed up with it and calling him out, the complaining has stopped. Being too passive gets nothing accomplished and wont change anything.
rutter9 said:
This thread is hilarious. This is a cell phone forum. I could care less about what people do on here. I go online to learn things I don't know about and have fun. If you are tired of reading about people don't open the thread. Pretty simple.
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Sorry but I have a problem looking the other way. Maybe if less people ignored these kind of things there would less to deal with. I know this thread won't have an impact here but I really don't think it hurts to try. You have your opinion and I have mine.
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Yes I have. I deal with constant complaining from someone I work with everyday and ive always ignored it and nothing ever changed. After finally getting fed up with it and calling him out, the complaining has stopped. Being too passive gets nothing accomplished and wont change anything.
Sorry but I have a problem looking the other way. Maybe if less people ignored these kind of things there would less to deal with. I know this thread won't have an impact here but I really don't think it hurts to try. You have your opinion and I have mine.
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Yea, let's see how much this thread helps the cause...
Spam thread confirm'd.
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they have to produce, because no new roms and no updates makes me something something.
dglowe343 said:
Yes I have. I deal with constant complaining from someone I work with everyday and ive always ignored it and nothing ever changed. After finally getting fed up with it and calling him out, the complaining has stopped. Being too passive gets nothing accomplished and wont change anything.
Sorry but I have a problem looking the other way. Maybe if less people ignored these kind of things there would less to deal with. I know this thread won't have an impact here but I really don't think it hurts to try. You have your opinion and I have mine.
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I'm OK. Your OK ...
Missplaced/redirected unresolved passive aggressive issues perhaps?
Moderator, please move thread to the psych dept.
GaryJ51 said:
I'm OK. Your OK ...
Missplaced/redirected unresolved passive aggressive issues perhaps?
Moderator, please move thread to the psych dept.
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I'm glad we know who the resident psychiatrist is. You must know everything. If none of this matters or you don't care, why post a response. Ego.
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Dude op, I don't know why you're so hell bent on solidifying a status as a goof, but its funny as hell. Good job.
Just like you have the right to post this thread and just like u seem to think u have the right to speak for the devs, other posters have the right to post about things they want to see happen.
At least they're wanting something that'll further the community. You're just posting pure bull**** to do it.
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Now Now children calm down or Ill turn the car back around.
TJDuckett said:
Dude op, I don't know why you're so hell bent on solidifying a status as a goof, but its funny as hell. Good job.
Just like you have the right to post this thread and just like u seem to think u have the right to speak for the devs, other posters have the right to post about things they want to see happen.
At least they're wanting something that'll further the community. You're just posting pure bull**** to do it.
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Further the community? What in their posts says that? I didn't post this thread to start an argument. I wasn't trying to speak for the developers, I was expressing my opinion. I guess that's forbidden here. Sorry you wasted your time posting here. You're saying I should've ignored everything in my op and said nothing. You could've done the same thing here. Guess we're all hypocrites.
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I'm glad we know who the resident psychiatrist is. You must know everything. If none of this matters or you don't care, why post a response. Ego.
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Damn bud....you ok? I sense a lot of anger.
I know what you are trying to say but like you said everybody is different. Different opinions, different perspectives, etc etc.
Your making a bigger deal than it is.
Just don't read the threads, everybody has an equal opinion.
Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa ...
I will say 3 OF's and 3 HM's
Sometimes I just can't help myself.
When you can take the pebble ...
Luke, let go your anger ...
That i don't become a damn moderator... EVER. I would pass out bans to every idiot decided to shout OMG WRONG FORUM 2 seconds after something was posted rather than just answering a damn question.
When the hell are people going to wake up and realize that the people that aren't as tech savvy are going to make mistakes. It's 10x easier to help and let a mod do their god damn job rather than just waste time typing useless BS.
If anybody bothers reading this, please for the love of god be a good member of the community. You are worth nothing more than ANYBODY else regardless of what your thanks meter says. Even developers need to play by the same rules as everybody else, be civil and don't lash out at people for simple mistakes.
Oh ya, BTW, the Q & A section of any god damn forum is almost always the least active. This isn't yahoo answers, people don't come here and log in with the intent of answering questions. They come here to flash roms. Do you think even developers frequently check Q & A? Probably not. So perhaps the better thing to do is create an optional section of the development forum that has questions pertaining to development. Turn it off if you don't care and leave it on if you don't mind firing off an answer every once in a while.
Developers know answers to questions, not the people that post in the Q & A forums... you know the people with the damn questions.
So please, everybody, get off your high horse. This is an internet forum. It was created to be a resource for people that want to improve their phone. Get rid of this drama, it would result in a better community.
P.S. The savagedzenkernel crap that happened here is ridiculous. As well as a lot of the things going on this Evo development forum. A lot of favoritism as of late and it's kind of sad. If you don't get thanked in a long list of thanks are you really losing sleep? You developed something and are distributing it for free, you make it public. If you know it's in their work then you have the satisfaction of knowing they had to use your stuff to make their **** work. That's all the thanks you need, you want more don't make it public. If i stand outside of a store with free pretzels i don't expect everybody to say thank you when they take one.
Funniest part, the average end user could give a crap about who did what in a kernel or who tweaked what governor. They don't even care who you are, what your name is, or what your rep is. Most don't donate (I have donated various times to various roms myself) and I never USED to. Once i became more involved, i did.
So, please, everybody... strive for something better rather than the trash this site is slowly becoming. Change starts with the individual.
Thanks for the time it took to read this,
Dave
That was a waste of space!
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Cool story bro
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It's a losing battle i'm just going to give in to the avalanche.
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WRONG FORU.... ohhh, nevermind
Thumbs up and a thanks for posting in the right spot
One of the few members I have seen around for a while and always seems to be optimistic and friendly.
Thank you Haus
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WRONG FORU.... ohhh, nevermind
Thumbs up and a thanks for posting in the right spot
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I don't have a problem nor do I disagree with what you said but honestly posting this is just encouraging an attack.
this subjects already been posted. Didn't use the search button?
Its not 100% true though. I come to the general forum and q&a just to try and help people out and answer questions.
the op need a diaper changed
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When I grow up, I want to be an XDA moderator so I can ban people for creating useless threads like this one.
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Everyone is saying this thread is useless, but I actually agree with it. The drama that has been going on around the Supersonic section is getting out of hand.
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I wish I had more hands so I can give this OP 4 thumbs down. If u can find a better community to help you make your phone just that much more amazing then , c ya.
Edit: to add some more uselessness to this thread, goodmorning everyone.
Swyped from my eVo
Lighten up, Francis.
Sorry... had to.
OMG where are the moderators?? Someone should close this thread and ban people.
While I agree that there are a lot of tools on this forum that come in and flame on the noobs, one can only take so many, "how do I root my Evo?" And every other retarded question that's asked that could have been answered by doing a quick fast and easy search. And then if you don't answer there question immediately, or give them the link that answers the question, they get snooty because you didn't answer the question, but pawned them off to another thread.
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AMEN
I am sure everyone has made the mistake of posting in the wrong forum one time or another. It is amazing how fast some people starting flaming. It's as though they are just skimming through the forums waiting to find something or someone to jump on. I would ban people too.
Reminds me of my job, a lot of co-workers better hope I never become their manager. I will fire their arses in a heartbeat.
davenukem said:
That i don't become a damn moderator... EVER. I would pass out bans to every idiot decided to shout OMG WRONG FORUM 2 seconds after something was posted rather than just answering a damn question.
When the hell are people going to wake up and realize that the people that aren't as tech savvy are going to make mistakes. It's 10x easier to help and let a mod do their god damn job rather than just waste time typing useless BS.
If anybody bothers reading this, please for the love of god be a good member of the community. You are worth nothing more than ANYBODY else regardless of what your thanks meter says. Even developers need to play by the same rules as everybody else, be civil and don't lash out at people for simple mistakes.
Oh ya, BTW, the Q & A section of any god damn forum is almost always the least active. This isn't yahoo answers, people don't come here and log in with the intent of answering questions. They come here to flash roms. Do you think even developers frequently check Q & A? Probably not. So perhaps the better thing to do is create an optional section of the development forum that has questions pertaining to development. Turn it off if you don't care and leave it on if you don't mind firing off an answer every once in a while.
Developers know answers to questions, not the people that post in the Q & A forums... you know the people with the damn questions.
So please, everybody, get off your high horse. This is an internet forum. It was created to be a resource for people that want to improve their phone. Get rid of this drama, it would result in a better community.
P.S. The savagedzenkernel crap that happened here is ridiculous. As well as a lot of the things going on this Evo development forum. A lot of favoritism as of late and it's kind of sad. If you don't get thanked in a long list of thanks are you really losing sleep? You developed something and are distributing it for free, you make it public. If you know it's in their work then you have the satisfaction of knowing they had to use your stuff to make their **** work. That's all the thanks you need, you want more don't make it public. If i stand outside of a store with free pretzels i don't expect everybody to say thank you when they take one.
Funniest part, the average end user could give a crap about who did what in a kernel or who tweaked what governor. They don't even care who you are, what your name is, or what your rep is. Most don't donate (I have donated various times to various roms myself) and I never USED to. Once i became more involved, i did.
So, please, everybody... strive for something better rather than the trash this site is slowly becoming. Change starts with the individual.
Thanks for the time it took to read this,
Dave
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I get where you coming from and i agree, but you did set yourslef up to get trashed and kinda encourged the actions what you were complaining about to begin with.
Ya know, the same "this site is going to trash" comment has been made since I joined here 3 years ago. With every new phone and new rom the same comment gets made by people who want things to go the way they think it should. Its an internet forum and the beauty of it is you have thousands of people that all have a mind of they're own and individual opinions of how things should be done. Yeah some people get pissed because the same question gets asked over and over again and after answering it 50 times they finally have enough. How many people do you think actually read the "Read this before posting questions thread"? Id bet less then 10% of new users. Maybe it needs to be mandated before viewing any other forums to avoid back to back separate threads of "how do I flash a rom".
Isnt that what thread titles are for? So you know what your going to read before doing so? If you dont want to answer that question again then just skip the thread. The opposite end of that spectrum is if you dont like that someone is getting pissed for the same thing being asked over and over again then grab your little mouse wheel and spin that ***** once and guess what, that comment is gone. Hell theres even a feature to ignore someone, use it. Theres no need to complain either way about this. Its a forum, they all work the same way.
I know how you feel OP, I've seen many threads where people would post pages upon pages of: "YOU POSTED IN THE WRONG THREAD, RETARD!". They could just politely say. "Just to let you know, you posted this in the wrong section. For future posts like this, they would go in the Q&A." Then they could let the thread die. But I know some people just strive for drama on the internet.
And OP, if you really want to become a moderator of something. Playstation Home needs some good ones. I think I have seen more flamers and trolls on there than any internet forum I have ever been on. :x
As much as I agree with a lot of what the OP has said, I do however not agree with the tone and attitude used by the OP in the first post.
To stop any flaming which may result from this I have decided to close this thread.
I hope you understand
Rick
First off, let me say that the XDA site has been a godsend. I've learned more about my phone's capabilities in the last few months than I could have ever expected.
Having said that, the Epic 4G community is seriously lacking. I've rooted and custom rom'ed a few friends' phones recently, an Evo, an Incredible, a droid eris, and a Droid X. It was shocking to me to enter their forums and see all the wealth of information and plethora of choices. CM7, MIUI, roms galore. Then I come back to our forum... and... yeah. I appreciate all that the dev's have done for our phone. I can't even remember how much my phone has improved over stock, but I think it's crazy how undersupported our phone really is. It's got all the potential in the world, but the comparably weaker Evo is getting all the love from sprint customers.
That's why I pre-ordered the Evo 3d from best buy recently. As much as I love the screen on the samsung and would love to have the SGS2, I just can't risk getting stuck with a phone that has little to no support again. It's a shame. Best of luck to those of you who stick with this phone. Hopefully the trend of established developers leaving slows down because it's been very disheartening to see our already meager dev crowd dropping like flies.
On to bigger and better things but still thankful for all the support for the past few months. Take care.
To get everything out of the way ... here we go ...
1st ... OMG Sammiches !!! ... Boobies.... 1.65 GHz Toaster karnel... Awesome Treat here....
Cool story bro ... but honestly im on the same boat.
I regret buying this phone in the first place
It got screwed with updates and now ill have to move on from this community... i will definitely miss the member here
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Cool story bro ...
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+1 Lol. Bye.
Why wait? Feel free to leave, just don't let the door hit you on the way out.
Honestly the only people who should be doing this are the devs... I haven't ever seen you around here
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Don't get your panties up in a bunch.
I wasn't trying to disrespect the community. In fact, I went out of my way to say thank you. Anyhow, the reason I posted this is because I have a strong feeling that there are plenty others on this forum (whether they are lurkers in the dark or randoms that post one-liners just to bulk up their post count, or even the dev's themselves) who feel similarly. Our phone had all the potential in the word. But, between Samsung's ineptitude and our comparatively small dev community, this phone never came anywhere close to its potential. It's sad that my girl's banged up antique droid eris can flawlessly run the latest CM7, yet my phone shi*ts a brick if I try to load netflix.
again, no disrespect. for those of you that stick with samsung, I hope the SGS2 gets better support. It certainly looks like a phone for the ages.
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Honestly the only people who should be doing this are the devs... I haven't ever seen you around here
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just because someone does not post does not mean they have not been here, they may do what most do not , is read and search.
but also I did notice that he joined fairly recent so to be honest I don't think you gave this community much of a chance. it sounded like you really didn't want the phone in the first place.
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Don't get your panties up in a bunch.
I wasn't trying to disrespect the community. In fact, I went out of my way to say thank you. Anyhow, the reason I posted this is because I have a strong feeling that there are plenty others on this forum (whether they are lurkers in the dark or randoms that post one-liners just to bulk up their post count, or even the dev's themselves) who feel similarly. Our phone had all the potential in the word. But, between Samsung's ineptitude and our comparatively small dev community, this phone never came anywhere close to its potential. It's sad that my girl's banged up antique droid eris can flawlessly run the latest CM7, yet my phone shi*ts a brick if I try to load netflix.
again, no disrespect. for those of you that stick with samsung, I hope the SGS2 gets better support. It certainly looks like a phone for the ages.
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They understand what you're saying ... but i don't think they care .....
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To get everything out of the way ... here we go ...
1st ... OMG Sammiches !!! ... Boobies.... 1.65 GHz Toaster karnel... Awesome Treat here....
Cool story bro ... but honestly im on the same boat.
I regret buying this phone in the first place
It got screwed with updates and now ill have to move on from this community... i will definitely miss the member here
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Good to see you back on top ISaint....f the 25%. You be who you are. I still laugh every time
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With all your contributions to development and support, you'll be sorely missed. Before you went on your useless, selfish rant, did you consider you could have learned to develop or help support or developers? You were party of the community that it sounds like you put nothing into. You justifiably got the same from it. I hope you learn this before you go stink up another community.
These threads are useless and make me like our community more and welcome those who don't want to add anything to leave quietly. We don't care how much you butt hurt over the EVO.
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with all your contributions to development and support, you'll be sorely missed. Before you went on your useless, selfish rant, did you consider you could have learned to develop or help support or developers? You were party of the community that it sounds like you put nothing into. You justifiably got the same from it. I hope you learn this before you go stink up another community.
These threads are useless and make me like our community more and welcome those who don't want to add anything to leave quietly. We don't care how much you butt hurt over the evo.
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.... I lol"d at every sentence !!!
Hahaha I just almost sammichd my pants
Good post, OP, at least compared to the usual level of intelligence here. Case in point: "Oh no, my leg is asleep" for 10 pages is perfectly fine, but your post apparently isn't.
I, for one, agree with the sentiment. I'm usually an early adopter, but I'll be waiting to see which phones get large community support before I buy my next device. Lesson learned, here.
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That's why I pre-ordered the Evo 3d from best buy recently. As much as I love the screen on the samsung and would love to have the SGS2, I just can't risk getting stuck with a phone that has little to no support again.
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lol.. have fun with your new locked bootloader!
http://phandroid.com/2011/05/24/evo-3d-features-same-locked-bootloader-as-htc-sensation/
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lol.. have fun with your new locked bootloader!
http://phandroid.com/2011/05/24/evo-3d-features-same-locked-bootloader-as-htc-sensation/
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.... It's unlocked dude...
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.... It's unlocked dude...
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Ok im done... let the OP have his thread Saint... Damn you voices in my head! STFU!!!
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With all your contributions to development and support, you'll be sorely missed. Before you went on your useless, selfish rant, did you consider you could have learned to develop or help support or developers? You were party of the community that it sounds like you put nothing into. You justifiably got the same from it. I hope you learn this before you go stink up another community.
These threads are useless and make me like our community more and welcome those who don't want to add anything to leave quietly. We don't care how much you butt hurt over the EVO.
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I have to admit, this made me laugh too.
Having said that, there are two things I didn't do for this forum.
1.) I didn't develop or theme, wish I could have, but it's going to be a long learning process.
2.) I didn't post every time I coughed, sneezed, burped, pooped, or grabbed a bite to eat. I didn't think it was necessary.
But I did do the following:
1.) Visited this forum and other XDA forums very regularly, which is how the site makes its money. Sponsors don't pay for post counts, they pay for page hits. There are likely exponentially more visitors than posters.
2.) Donated. For those dev's whose Rom's I used, and themers whose themes I enjoyed, I donated money. And, I'm pretty sure that's a large incentive for why they do what they do, as Noobnl so eloquently displayed.
3.) Referred, literally dozens and dozens of people to this website, which adds visitors, page hits, and sponsor money.
So, you're right. I never developed a ROM that you could use. But, until now, I also didn't waste bandwidth with nonsense or ETA queries. Once again, I didn't start this post as a swan song or with the hope of warm condolences; I was just curious to see if there were others who felt the same way.
Thanks for the laugh anyhow.
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Good post, OP, at least compared to the usual level of intelligence here. Case in point: "Oh no, my leg is asleep" for 10 pages is perfectly fine, but your post apparently isn't.
I, for one, agree with the sentiment. I'm usually an early adopter, but I'll be waiting to see which phones get large community support before I buy my next device. Lesson learned, here.
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I am having a hard time justifying this comment. My friends want me to search for roms on their phonesand when I look I find a ton of pretty much the same roms written by different people. Can someone who had done this on other phones explain what the bonus to having 40 roms with 1 feature current versus having 5 stable, working roms that can have features added. I'm not sure went over-saturating the dev section is considered better support. Was the EVO so bad off that it need 40 roms?
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Good to see you back on top ISaint....f the 25%. You be who you are. I still laugh every time
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+1. Lol
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I understand the OP, but honestly, I had an evo running cm7 and my epic with srf 1.0.1 would run circles around it. Im pretty sure the same will happen with evo 3d and gs2.
What is going on with xda nowadays? I don't know the story but it seems like the devs are fighting amongst each other and half of the comments being posted are negative. For God's sake people, this is still the greatest site for people to find fixes modifications for our phones but I for one think twice now before I post a question or comment on here because I don't want to deal with the trolling or flaming that may come from it. I have gotten a lot of help for my evo from some of the great members here and just don't want any newcomers to be put off after reading a few post. I think we should all just chalk it up to the heat and try to stay positive and helpful. With that said, it is only my two cents. Now its time to go to work in a steel warehouse in 101 degree weather. BOO!
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What is going on with xda nowadays? I don't know the story but it seems like the devs are fighting amongst each other and half of the comments being posted are negative. For God's sake people, this is still the greatest site for people to find fixes modifications for our phones but I for one think twice now before I post a question or comment on here because I don't want to deal with the trolling or flaming that may come from it. I have gotten a lot of help for my evo from some of the great members here and just don't want any newcomers to be put off after reading a few post. I think we should all just chalk it up to the heat and try to stay positive and helpful. With that said, it is only my two cents. Now its time to go to work in a steel warehouse in 101 degree weather. BOO!
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I actually agree with this, everyone needs to take a step back and look at the bigger picture. I actually think it would be a good thing to have XDA down for a couple days, so people would be really grateful for when it came back!!!
The reason is that XDA has become so "famous" that people who have no business working on their phones themselves are all over this thing. I do rooting and rom service here for hire and almost all of the people who come to me started out on XDA - most of those ended up with issues they couldn't resolve, the others were smart enough to realize they were in over their heads. Point being, all those kids who troll and flame the forums elsewhere are now here. That's my take anyway.
XDA needs stricter forum policies and suspend accounts of users who post such negative comments that they offend other users and provoke such behavior from others. People need to learn to have respect for others and also hold their tongues. Some people can't resist the urge to "put others in their place" so-to-speak and that's totally unnecessary. Thos who make such comments should be given only ONE warning then account suspension. Once people see that XDA has no tollerance for that kind of behavior, people will think twice before being so hateful to others in the forums. That will solve it.
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The reason is that XDA has become so "famous" that people who have no business working on their phones themselves are all over this thing. I do rooting and rom service here for hire and almost all of the people who come to me started out on XDA - most of those ended up with issues they couldn't resolve, the others were smart enough to realize they were in over their heads. Point being, all those kids who troll and flame the forums elsewhere are now here. That's my take anyway.
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Agreed. I think there is a lot of new people here who just don't understand what these devs do. They act like they deserve something for flashing these devs' rom. These guys put in a ton of work and some people act like they should get paid to run it on their phone. It's a shame really.
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Agreed. I think there is a lot of new people here who just don't understand what these devs do. They act like they deserve something for flashing these devs' rom. These guys put in a ton of work and some people act like they should get paid to run it on their phone. It's a shame really.
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I have to agree with this statement . I even tried to help resolve a problem one member was having in one thread and I was more or less blasted with some off the wall comment regarding windows on a computer . I sat there and thought about responding but didnt . I only knew it would cause it to continue further so I let it be . So yes I agree with most of what is being said in this thread . Granted I'm not a dev and have alittle theming ability but I try to help someone when I see them in trouble and they are trying to understand . Only since I was in their place at one time and was totally clueless . Yes its easy to scream go read , but sometimes doing the actual process itself is what teaches an individual . The devs on here do awesome work , all have their strengths and all have their different takes on a Rom and how it should work . In lack of better terms its their creations , they are allowed to take as long as they feel they should for it to be up to their standards or expectations . Not the individual flashing the rom . I swear I laugh everytime I hear "Whats the eta on release?" Um this isnt HTC and this isnt Sprint . You want a release date ask sprint or HTC when they gonna offer software upgrades .
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i agree. i barely post because of this
This place is actually a wealth of knowledge but it is easier to find what you want other places 9 out of 10 times just due to trolls and flamers. There will be a 50 + post thread and only 5 decent posts in the entire thread because the rest of the posts are trolls or hot linked picture to flame some one.
No one wants to wade through that garbage to find an answer so they look elsewhere.
I generally find what I want and help myself to avoid the issues that a lot of members here cause. Do away with the issues, trolls, BS and this site could be the one stop shop for hand held devices. But until then there will be mainly people registering just to gain access to a download or link.
Just my 2cents.
I am not sure what is so hard about reading though. The hero is my first phone that I even thought about modding. I got it in march of last year, opened my account here in June and if you notice, I only have 30 or 40 posts total (I think the first one wasn't until about 4 months ago). For the most part this was because any time I had a question, I just used the search function. If an xda search doesn't answer my question, and a google search doesn't answer my question, THEN I ask. I am sure that most of those here who hold the knowledge would agree that they don't have a problem with the lack of knowledge, but the lack of resourcefulness.
Trust me, i am just a peon when it comes to this stuff, I don't know much. I only wish I had the time it would take to become an expert on building apps and roms, etc. but I don't. However, even I get annoyed when I am searching for an answer in a thread and the same question is asked (and answered) 4 times in the span of 2 pages.
I agree that those responding could use a little more tact sometimes... However, plainly asking someone to read for themselves is not rude, it is teaching reliance on oneself. If more people were a little more self reliant I am sure that this place would be far more efficient (and welcoming).
I, for one, thank the dev community for keeping my Hero running, I don't have an upgrade until January so it will have to do for a while longer.
Edit: I feel a little embarassed, I am in here because my wife as an Evo and obviously I would be the one to support it... Anyway, if y'all are wondering why some Hero owning, absent-minded poster is in here acting all righteous, that would be the reason, I forgot I wasn't in the Hero forums. I still believe my post to be valid, but you may take it as you want.
They should have a dislike button and members who had only had their account for six months are able to have their comments disappear with a set number of dislikes and those who had it longer cannot have their comments blocked, my 3 cents
I remember when this all happened 3 years ago in the touch and diamond forums between a chef's I'll leave nameless...It ended with a damn good chef getting banned. All that started over a program that was written and another chef tweaked the "hell" out of it making it a success, but creating a world of controversial bickering...It follows all forums once they begin to blow up as The Evo did!
I just get annoyed with seeing threads in the Dev section get overtaken with pages of 'arguments' or the like. Or complaints about devs and money or whatever trendy bull**** is happening. That's all. I'm of the type that feels the need to read more pages than not in a thread, so when I sit through 5 pages of total sh!t I almost want to slam my head through the monitor.
In terms of the General and Questions section, people posting pictures and the like are harmless, in my opinion. Most threads asking questions in the Gen / Q&A get by with little to no issue. Sometimes a thread deserves to get derailed.
ItsLasher said:
This place is actually a wealth of knowledge but it is easier to find what you want other places 9 out of 10 times just due to trolls and flamers. There will be a 50 + post thread and only 5 decent posts in the entire thread because the rest of the posts are trolls or hot linked picture to flame some one.
No one wants to wade through that garbage to find an answer so they look elsewhere.
I generally find what I want and help myself to avoid the issues that a lot of members here cause. Do away with the issues, trolls, BS and this site could be the one stop shop for hand held devices. But until then there will be mainly people registering just to gain access to a download or link.
Just my 2cents.
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You don't have to register to even access the download link. That eliminates that theory. I do highly agree with most of the things being said here though.
mrsato said:
The reason is that XDA has become so "famous" that people who have no business working on their phones themselves are all over this thing. I do rooting and rom service here for hire and almost all of the people who come to me started out on XDA - most of those ended up with issues they couldn't resolve, the others were smart enough to realize they were in over their heads. Point being, all those kids who troll and flame the forums elsewhere are now here. That's my take anyway.
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Agreed. The smartphone boom is bringing a lot of people with no patience and no respect. They want their phones fast, and they want it done now, for free.
tx_dbs_tx said:
XDA needs stricter forum policies and suspend accounts of users who post such negative comments that they offend other users and provoke such behavior from others. People need to learn to have respect for others and also hold their tongues. Some people can't resist the urge to "put others in their place" so-to-speak and that's totally unnecessary. Thos who make such comments should be given only ONE warning then account suspension. Once people see that XDA has no tollerance for that kind of behavior, people will think twice before being so hateful to others in the forums. That will solve it.
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This should go for noobs who post in the wrong section and creating threads before searching. 1 warning end suspension so we don't have to tolerate such noobish behavior.
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I find the mods to be very friendly and helpful. Someone or something you don't like, send them a PM and have it moved/deleted/etc. I've always been met with a thanks when sending in a PM to have a thread moved.
toastcfh, josefcrist, and rolfd are EVO 4G moderators.
I've seen the ends of the internet.
This is what happens when popularity hits something. It happens to everything. This is the way of things. Even you guys complaining about it.
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SilverZero said:
Agreed. The smartphone boom is bringing a lot of people with no patience and no respect. They want their phones fast, and they want it done now, for free.
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Couldn't agree more. People are just too lazy to search. If the XDA search option does not work, use the damn Google option. It always works.
Check out the EVO 3d general, its all trolling and bashing, and a small handful of informative threads.
Zabalba said:
I've seen the ends of the internet.
This is what happens when popularity hits something. It happens to everything. This is the way of things. Even you guys complaining about it.
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The internet is coming! It's still very much alive! And evil!
I do agree, though. And complaining about it over and over, as we see happen, won't change it. I do agree that it gets tiresome seeing it in the 'important' threads though. But talking about it really doesn't change much.