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[Q] Cannot AUTHORIZE after back to stock?

I have 3 Kindles Fires and 2 of them were rooted with the Android Market installed so I could access all my apps. i have never messed with any roms or anything other than locking the wallpaper with root explorer. I have been trying to restore back to stock for 2 days now.
I have followed several different methods including TWRP methods and I can restore to stock easily, sign back in and get the Kindle registered. I can download books fine, I can stream videos fine BUT I cannot purchase any apps in the Amazon Market or view any of "my apps" in the market. Any time I try to the "authenticating" box pops up for half a second and then kicks me back to the Amazon App store main page.
I don't know what to do from here. My first Kindle (that I never rooted) can access/purchase everything fine. I have already contacted Amazon to verify there are no problems with my account on their end. I have wiped wiped wiped and factory reset and update.zip and update-kindle-6.2.1_D01E_3103920.bin countless times but both the previously rooted Fire's cannot function properly in the market.
Any and all advice will be greatly appreciated!

it's a shot in the dark but have you tried to unregister at the amazon website and the reregister with the kf ?
maybe it helps ...
another idea:
if you'r unregistered goto settings - apps - amazon market - clear cache - clear data - force close - then try reregister
you know - maybe it ...

b63 said:
it's a shot in the dark but have you tried to unregister at the amazon website and the reregister with the kf ?
maybe it helps ...
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I have not. I have deregistered and reregisterd on the device itself repeatedly but I have not tried on the Amazon website. Thank you very much for the advice and I will go try it right now.

just updated my previous post ...

b63 said:
just updated my previous post ...
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I appreciate your advice. I just tried both of your suggestions but I still can't get past the authenticating box

besides of a cold reboot - just to be shure - no more ideas
sorry ...

When you flashed the zip to go back to stock, did you wipe everything first? System, data, cache, davlik cache. Might try a full wipe then flash the stock image.

skourg3 said:
When you flashed the zip to go back to stock, did you wipe everything first? System, data, cache, davlik cache. Might try a full wipe then flash the stock image.
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I always wiped everything before flashing, including the sdcard, thinking it may have contained corrupt data preventing the market from authenticating correctly.
I'm really bummed. I was kinda hoping when I posted this that somebody else who had the problem would know a solution. Not sure what to do with the Kindles from here?
Seems odd to me that I have 2 Fires with the exact same problem. That leads me to believe that its either the update.zip that's faulty ( although I downloaded the bin straight from Amazon and had the same problem as the existing update.zip's ) or more likely something that the rooting process I followed ( nat3mil's ) changed that the back to stock is not replacing. Is that possible or does the update.zip actually replace everything to stock?

did you use the one from amazon ?
if yes this one restores everything including loosing root, fff and twrp
http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=hp_k6land_software2?nodeId=200790620

b63 said:
did you use the one from amazon ?
if yes this one restores everything including loosing root, fff and twrp
http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=hp_k6land_software2?nodeId=200790620
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Yesterday I just kept trying the update.zip that is provided in one of the threads here but the morning I actually downloaded the bin direct from Amazon ( same as the link you provided ) and I tried flashing that following the instructions on Amazon and also in TWRP with no luck.

you can't flash the bin with twrp
and you can't install with the amazon method if you allready have the same version
rename the bin file to update.zip and flash with twrp
then it's like out of the box

b63 said:
you can't flash the bin with twrp
and you can't install with the amazon method if you allready have the same version
rename the bin file to update.zip and flash with twrp
then it's like out of the box
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Thats what I did. First I tried the Amazon instruction method, in the Kindle updates folder, and when that didtn't work I renamed to update.zip and flashed with TWRP.
EDIT: when I say it didn't work I mean it flashes fine but I still can't access my apps in the Amazon Market

then you have a kf like out of the box !
there is nothing more you can do at the kf side
you can try to set it to factory defaults in settings
otherwise the problem has to be on your accounts at amazon
edit: i think i heard somewhere that it takes some hours after registration until the account is fully functioning. no guarantee ...

b63 said:
then you have a kf like out of the box !
there is nothing more you can do at the kf side
you can try to set it to factory defaults in settings
otherwise the problem has to be on your accounts at amazon
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I have done a factory reset in settings several times also. I emailed Amazon last night and this was their reply,
Hello,
I've checked your account and see you should be able to place the orders using both the devices.
In this case, I suggest you to reset both the devices.
Performing a hard reset on your Kindle Fire may resolve intermittent issues like trouble downloading content to your Kindle Fire.
To perform a hard reset on your Kindle Fire, press and hold the power button for 20 seconds and then release. After the device has completely turned off, press the power button to restart your Kindle Fire.
If your Kindle Fire is still unresponsive, try charging your Kindle Fire before trying to reset the device again.
If performing a hard reset on your Kindle Fire doesn't help, please reach us over the phone so we can help you appropriately.
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So I guess my only option left is to call them? Thanks for all your help!

last idea: the sync button brings failure ?
sorry - at the end of my knowledge ...
give them a call !!!

b63 said:
last idea: the sync button brings failure ?
sorry - at the end of my knowledge ...
give them a call !!!
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I don't have my Fire with me at the moment because I am at work but the sync was not working right, you are correct. Its says my device sync is not activated and it won't allow me to toggle it on.

pattern lock problem

I've a big problem with my iconia , my brother entered the pattern wrong more than 5 times , then it is locked , when i enter my google account username and password it dosen't work , i think cuz the wifi is closed,
any one can help me
and i cant either make a hard reset for it because all my data on it and i cant make a backup because it is locked

Moustapha Aly said:
I've a big problem with my iconia , my brother entered the pattern wrong more than 5 times , then it is locked , when i enter my google account username and password it dosen't work , i think cuz the wifi is closed,
any one can help me
and i cant either make a hard reset for it because all my data on it and i cant make a backup because it is locked
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Well, I will guess you are not rooted.
The pattern lock, in my opinion, should never be used. And I'll tell you why. It's only secure for stupid people. If a smart person stole you tab, first thing they would look for, is if they get adb access. If they don't, then the next thing, will be to wipe user data, install a stock rom, which will wipe out all this pattern lock nonsense, then sell the tab.
So, install, if an a500, a full stock update rom. Unfortunately, unless you have a backup. this will wipe most data from the tab.
MD

Moscow Desire said:
Well, I will guess you are not rooted.
The pattern lock, in my opinion, should never be used. And I'll tell you why. It's only secure for stupid people. If a smart person stole you tab, first thing they would look for, is if they get adb access. If they don't, then the next thing, will be to wipe user data, install a stock rom, which will wipe out all this pattern lock nonsense, then sell the tab.
So, install, if an a500, a full stock update rom. Unfortunately, unless you have a backup. this will wipe most data from the tab.
MD
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Thanks alot for replay & i did a hard reset
my data lost
is there are any method to bring this data back ?!

Moustapha Aly said:
Thanks alot for replay & i did a hard reset
my data lost
is there are any method to bring this data back ?!
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Unfortunately, no. Which is what I stated earlier. This is why I don't use pattern lock.
MD

Moustapha Aly said:
Thanks alot for replay & i did a hard reset
my data lost
is there are any method to bring this data back ?!
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you should always have this puppies rooted and have TB available
Sent From my skyrocket Lesmany Nunez.

I completely disagree with MD. In the tablet world, there are probably more stupid people than smart, so I'd rather lose my tablet and all my data to the ether rather than have someone just be able to swipe to gain access to all my information. And why make it easier for the smart person?

[Q] How to prevent tablet thief from wiping the entire System?

Hello there!
I have this Cerberus anti-theft application which should try and help me prevent thieves from getting away with my tablet, but I am asking myself..
What if the thief enters my custom recovery mode and does a Factory Reset or Wipes System? Will it not delete my Cerberus application as well?
Maybe some of you will be asking why I have the recovery image flashed the tablet, helping the bad guys wiping my data. Simply because I find it the easiest way to change custom ROMs when updates are available.
Even if I don't have this custom recovery flashed to my device, it isn't that hard to flash one and after that wipe the data.
And now that I checked again, the Reset to Factory option, from Settings, isn't even password protected on my device.
What I am asking you guys is it if there is some way to protect my TWRP custom recovery by password (or just the Wipe Data section) and also my Factory Reset option on my tablet.
Or if there is exists a password protected recovery?
Thank you very much!

AN7Z said:
Hello there!
I have this Cerberus anti-theft application which should try and help me prevent thieves from getting away with my tablet, but I am asking myself..
What if the thief enters my custom recovery mode and does a Factory Reset or Wipes System? Will it not delete my Cerberus application as well?
Maybe some of you will be asking why I have the recovery image flashed the tablet, helping the bad guys wiping my data. Simply because I find it the easiest way to change custom ROMs when updates are available.
Even if I don't have this custom recovery flashed to my device, it isn't that hard to flash one and after that wipe the data.
And now that I checked again, the Reset to Factory option, from Settings, isn't even password protected on my device.
What I am asking you guys is it if there is some way to protect my TWRP custom recovery by password (or just the Wipe Data section) and also my Factory Reset option on my tablet.
Or if there is exists a password protected recovery?
Thank you very much!
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Overall, no matter what you do, a smart enough thief could blank your hardware by flashing a stock image in fastboot. There is really no way to protect against that. I don't think a PW protected recovery is available, but if it were the thief could flash over that too.
Tools like Cerberus rely on thieves being ignorant enough to not try very hard. The extra features for rooted users provide protection against thieves who have a bit less ignorance - you can have Cerberus install itself to the system partition so that an on-device factory reset won't remove it. But there is no perfect genius-proof solution, as a smart enough thief can overwrite everything including Cerberus.

cmstlist said:
Overall, no matter what you do, a smart enough thief could blank your hardware by flashing a stock image in fastboot. There is really no way to protect against that. I don't think a PW protected recovery is available, but if it were the thief could flash over that too.
Tools like Cerberus rely on thieves being ignorant enough to not try very hard. The extra features for rooted users provide protection against thieves who have a bit less ignorance - you can have Cerberus install itself to the system partition so that an on-device factory reset won't remove it. But there is no perfect genius-proof solution, as a smart enough thief can overwrite everything including Cerberus.
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That's quite sad to hear.

Preparing Nexus 6p for sale, how to wipe data?

I have read that the most secure way to wipe data permanently on android devices and preparing them for sale is to do two things:
1- encrypt the device
2- factory restore
Since Nexus 6p comes already with mandatory encryption, then the only thing I have to do is to just reset the device to factory setting, is that true?

one1111 said:
I have read that the most secure way to wipe data permanently on android devices and preparing them for sale is to do two things:
1- encrypt the device
2- factory restore
Since Nexus 6p comes already with mandatory encryption, then the only thing I have to do is to just reset the device to factory setting, is that true?
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Yes, right. You will just need to flash the factory image, and your device will be encrypted, all by itself. This will completely wipe the storage, so make sure that you do a backup first.

DJBhardwaj said:
Yes, right. You will just need to flash the factory image, and your device will be encrypted, all by itself. This will completely wipe the storage, so make sure that you do a backup first.
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Thanks DJBhardwaj, but why do I need to flash the factory image? the device is already encrypted?

one1111 said:
I have read that the most secure way to wipe data permanently on android devices and preparing them for sale is to do two things:
1- encrypt the device
2- factory restore
Since Nexus 6p comes already with mandatory encryption, then the only thing I have to do is to just reset the device to factory setting, is that true?
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That's correct. Encrypt the device first via the settings menu (Settings/Security/Encrypt Phone), then flash the factory images to return to stock. See my guide for detailed instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928
Look at section 10 specifically, this instructs you how to return the device to the state it was in when it left the factory, including removing all of your personal data.

one1111 said:
Thanks DJBhardwaj, but why do I need to flash the factory image? the device is already encrypted?
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Sorry, my bad. Just do a factory reset via stock recovery, or from within the Settings itself.

one1111 said:
Thanks DJBhardwaj, but why do I need to flash the factory image? the device is already encrypted?
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To ensure that it's in a completely stock state for the buyer. Or has it never been modified?

Heisenberg said:
To ensure that it's in a completely stock state for the buyer. Or has it never been modified?
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it has never been modified, no.

one1111 said:
it has never been modified, no.
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My mistake! I'm so used to people having modified devices that I automatically assume every device is. As DJ already said a factory reset should suffice.

DJBhardwaj said:
Sorry, my bad. Just do a factory reset via stock recovery, or from within the Settings itself.
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Don't use recovery unless you have already deleted all accounts. The new user will end up needing your Google login to be able to get into the phone.

Solutions Etcetera said:
Don't use recovery unless you have already deleted all accounts. The new user will end up needing your Google login to be able to get into the phone.
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This happened to me when I sold a Moto X on Swappa. I ended up giving the buyer my credentials over the phone then changing them 5 minutes later.
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Solutions Etcetera said:
Don't use recovery unless you have already deleted all accounts. The new user will end up needing your Google login to be able to get into the phone.
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Wow. Good to add something to the knowledge.

[Guide] How to remove encryption from your Pixel 2 XL

In an effort to keep this chatter out of other threads, here is the info that you seek. I didn't discover this process @DespairFactor and Bryant (not sure of his XDA handle) get the credit.
First you need to go through the Google set up and Skip everything except, the unlock Theft Protection. It will then ask you if you want to add the Google account and you say no. If at any point you say yes to something or add a pin / fingerprint it will encrypt. Then you need to reboot to the bootloader and run, fastboot format userdata then, Boot and Skip through the set up again. As long as you do not add a pin / password or a google account you will stay un-encrypted. This will work on the stock boot.img.

Reserved

Any advantage of doing it? In theory it should work faster, but is it visible?

Hola
And further to @DforDesign's question, I take it that having a decrypted device helps with existing TRWP and available custom kernel installations? I haven't reviewed the Development sub-forums yet as I am still awaiting my device.
Thanks for the guide.

If you do stay unencrypted, isn't all we can do for now is just edit the build prop? Anything else? I thought magisk would still bootloop

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Any advantage of doing it? In theory it should work faster, but is it visible?
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Depends on if you talk to people that wear tin foil hats, that also gives you your answer.

so after the setup, can you add your google account, fingerprint/pin later?

xryousukex said:
so after the setup, can you add your google account, fingerprint/pin later?
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Then you will lose twrp after doing that process. It will be encrypted.

Let me make sure I'm understanding this.
I already set up my 2 XL with pin and fingerprint, so now it's encrypted making seeing root file tree impossible (like sdcard, download folder).
If I reset my device, and say NO to everything requiring pin or fingerprint on the device, I can set it up normally and still have access to the root file tree?
So long as I don't password, pin, fingerprint protect the device, I'll continue to have access to these files, right?
But this also means no google account activity (Gmail, contacts , photos, etc) right?

Yes for now, that's exactly what that means, at least for now until TWRP , or AOSP recovery is update and worked on to work with our device.

Az Biker said:
Let me make sure I'm understanding this.
I already set up my 2 XL with pin and fingerprint, so now it's encrypted making seeing root file tree impossible (like sdcard, download folder).
If I reset my device, and say NO to everything requiring pin or fingerprint on the device, I can set it up normally and still have access to the root file tree?
So long as I don't password, pin, fingerprint protect the device, I'll continue to have access to these files, right?
But this also means no google account activity (Gmail, contacts , photos, etc) right?
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You understand correctly. The only thing I'm not sure about is whether or not a factory reset will be enough. We used format userdata in fastboot to achieve it. It may be a good test to see if simply linking a Google account will trip encryption.

I can add my google account as long as i dont set a pin or fingerprinter my phone's internal storage is visible via TWRP with no issues.

Let me add something we discovered. It seems to be on the pin/pattern setup only. I think you can do everything else to stay decrypted in twrp. Now might thought was to setup everything they way you want without pin/pattern and you can then backup. Then save that backup on a PC. After that you lock your device via pin/pattern. If for some reason something screws up instead of setting everything up again. Just factory reset and skip everything and place backup on SD card then boot twrp and try to restore. Someone want to test this theory lol????
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bryantjopplin said:
Let me add something we discovered. It seems to be on the pin/pattern setup only. I think you can do everything else to stay decrypted in twrp. Now might thought was to setup everything they way you want without pin/pattern and you can then backup. Then save that backup on a PC. After that you lock your device via pin/pattern. If for some reason something screws up instead of setting everything up again. Just factory reset and skip everything and place backup on SD card then boot twrp and try to restore. Someone want to test this theory lol????
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Thanks for confirming

Great! Thanks. I can't use TWRP on the Nov patch but I have a question... I'm now using a permissive kernel. Can I simply wipe userdata to unencrypt? Can you confirm? Is the command fastboot format userdata?
Thanks in advance!

Mike02z said:
Great! Thanks. I can't use TWRP on the Nov patch but I have a question... I'm now using a permissive kernel. Can I simply wipe userdata to unencrypt? Can you confirm? Is the command fastboot format userdata?
Thanks in advance!
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Yes, but twrp is still not functional

bryantjopplin said:
Yes, but twrp is still not functional
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Thanks. I didn't realize we needed twrp. I was thinking we could just use fastboot erase userdata in leu of twrp.

Can't you just factory reset and then flash Magisk before re-setting up your phone? I thought Magisk disabled force encrypt by default.

Mike02z said:
Thanks. I didn't realize we needed twrp. I was thinking we could just use fastboot erase userdata in leu of twrp.
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No you can, I thought you were thinking format userdata would fix twrp. Sorry

TheSt33v said:
Can't you just factory reset and then flash Magisk before re-setting up your phone? I thought Magisk disabled force encrypt by default.
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Tried it, no luck. Removed my Google account, reset phone, did not log into my Google account and did not set up any PIN or password and it's still encrypted. I'll try fastboot erase userdata and cache and see if that works.