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Ive decided to keep my fascinate even though have an available upgrade. Thanks to our excellent dev community here, ive never been happier w/ what's floating around in my pocket. I use it for everything, and its been easy to root and flash. I think im gonna wait for the second wave of the next gen phones.
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Good Choice you've made there.
Just think there will be plenty of more phones soon that would be much better than Thunderbolt =D
Yeah it's not really worth an upgrade IMO until LTE is widespread and dual core phones are established.
The current generation of 2.2 ROMs are shockingly fast, stable, and battery thrifty.
I'll still give any vzw rep a hard time for the meagre support this phone had received, but secretly I am really pleased with the latest superclean. Thank goodness there was no exodus before the EB01 roms were so thoroughly tweaked.
It's thinner (ok slightly) than a thunderbolt and fully unlocked. I love that I can save it from the brink of brick with Odin. It'd be nice to have dual cameras or LTE but I have no justification for bailing before Q3 or Q4. I want a higher resolution screen and perhaps HDMI out.
soba49 said:
The current generation of 2.2 ROMs are shockingly fast, stable, and battery thrifty.
I'll still give any vzw rep a hard time for the meagre support this phone had received, but secretly I am really pleased with the latest superclean. Thank goodness there was no exodus before the EB01 roms were so thoroughly tweaked.
It's thinner (ok slightly) than a thunderbolt and fully unlocked. I love that I can save it from the brink of brick with Odin. It'd be nice to have dual cameras or LTE but I have no justification for bailing before Q3 or Q4. I want a higher resolution screen and perhaps HDMI out.
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I totally agree. The Tbolt isn't a bad phone, but I think having the "latest thing" has hyped it a bit more than its worth, especially with 4G not being everywhere. I checked it out at a Vzw store, and I love the size of my Fascinate compared to the tbolt. It fits a pocket a lot better, its just so small and thin. Screen is better too.
Overall though, I think waiting for more competition is a solid choice, but of course I don't blame anyone for wanting the newest phone out there, especially if they have 4G in their area.
Thinking about waiting for the next big thing makes me think about all the new phones coming out for T-Mobile. Too bad they'll be internet-less smartphones later on....
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There is no reason for upgrading f right now if you have a current Gen top tier phone. It is going to be a while before developers start making apps for dual core phones or apps that require a lot of processing power.
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I had an original Droid before the Fascinate. A lot of good qualities but the weight drove me nuts. Newer phones like the thunderbolt weigh quite a bit more and you feel it. With the ROMs we have now, it's hard to justify an upgrade.
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I think I'll keep my fascinate for a while, but the new droid incredible S/2 is tempting.
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Went and played with a tbolt for a while, I wasn't the least bit impressed. Defi not enough to pay 300 out the door. As frustrated as I am with Samsung, our Dev community is awesome. Im pretty sure I was running adrynalynes roms on my pos omnia.
Thank you devs foe making the decision for me not to jump ship. Btw, I'm in San Diego and have 4g almost everywhere I am.
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Yeah I had an upgrade too...... I used it tho...... On another fascinate for my wifes line lol. She was deadset on an iphone until she had my droid1 now she prefers android! Im gonna go celebrate by devouring an apple now!
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All of our devs are jumping ship to the thunderbolt. Though they say they wont abandon us, I'm sure development will slow because they will be playing with their fancy new phones. I would have upgraded if I could.
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dev for fascinate are doing all they can for our phone - if you have updated your phone with the current ROMs and kernels your phone should be running GREAT
we need Samsung to download the source code for the fascinate
when that happens we will see new updates for the fascinate - take a look at the i9000 threads in xda - our fascinate phone is not DEAD
Not concerned at all. Our devs are the **** by the way!
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Not concerned at all. Our devs are the **** by the way!
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+1 Too bad Sammy and Verizon don't have the devs we have!
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There is no reason for upgrading f right now if you have a current Gen top tier phone. It is going to be a while before developers start making apps for dual core phones or apps that require a lot of processing power.
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So you're saying it's not worth a couple hundred bucks to be able to get a slightly higher Quad score?
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So you're saying it's not worth a couple hundred bucks to be able to get a slightly higher Quad score?
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I said no such thing; I'm all about dropping a couple of hundreds for a few points.
The only reason I got an Atrix for a week was to see that amazing guadrant score.
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Well i usually jump on new phones had the iphone 3g,iphone 3gs,droid eris,moto droid,droid x and now my fascinate but nothen coming out cept the galaxy s2 looks temping imo. The fascinate is just as good if not better because of the speed size and screen.
I have my ne2 upgrade..but I am perfectly happy with my fascinate with all the great work from our devs its become an amazing phone.
Besides I don't consider the T-bolt an upgrade at all. More like sideways instead of up. Will wait till something like the sgs 2 or a dual core htc
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T bolt really is a very minor upgrade. It just doesn't seem worth burning an upgrade for when I already have a fascinate. I also fail to understand the iphone like levels of hype and fanboy-ism surrounding it.
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I tried the Thunderbolt for 2 weeks and returned it and this is why... its about twice as thick and ALOT heavier than the fascinate. Battery wouldn't last all day when I barely used it while my fascinate would easily last 2 days with little use or a full day of heavy use. The screen on the fascinate looks a lot better than the thunderbolt. Another thing I noticed was that the thunderbolt was always a lot hotter then my fascinate even when it was at its regular clock speed and was regularly at 110 degrees Fahrenheit or higher. So if anybody is thinking about getting the thunderbolt I hope I saved you the $35 restocking fee.
Nice to hear that the grass isn't always greener!
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You just saved me 500 bucks.
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Kernels will help with the battery life, and I've used it and I don't mind the heaviness at all. The main reasons why I'm not bothering to upgrade to it is because the screen isn't as nice, and the GPU doesn't seem as good as the Fascinate's. To expand on that GPU point, I used Neocore on my sister's Thunderbolt and my Fascinate at the same time, and my Fascinate performed smoother and quicker, however the final FPS score was apparently better on the Thunderbolt's, which I found strange. However visuals don't lie, while benchmarks sometimes do (especially quadrants).
Overall, I'd just wait for a decent dual-core phone on Verizon, rather than upgrading to the Thunderbolt. Galaxy S II anyone?
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Galaxy S II anyone?
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I'm definitely hoping the GSII will come to Verizon. The Exynos processor, the screen, the thinness and weight, and the extra codecs are pure awesomeness.
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Overall, I'd just wait for a decent dual-core phone on Verizon, rather than upgrading to the Thunderbolt. Galaxy S II anyone?
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Hopefully they will update the Galaxy S II a little more often then they have been doing with the fascinate but I think Samsung's hardware makes up for everything
Im probly still goin to get one I would like more oppinions tho some ppl love it and some hate it xD I won't know till I try it my self
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I havent had 2 weeks worth of trial with it, but my Daughter just got one. As with every phone, it has it's ups and downs. I agree with most of the OP, but it has some positives. The front camera for one, the 4G for another.
It is like heaving around a brick though in size and weight compared to the Fascinate.
I am not switching to anything anytime soon, but I would still wait awhile to see what the community does with the customizations before i would choose anything...
ha I don't care even if Galaxy 2 has 2ghz triple core, I wouldn't buy Samsung phone again. I'd rather have faster update than better hardware.
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ha I don't care even if Galaxy 2 has 2ghz triple core, I wouldn't buy Samsung phone again. I'd rather have faster update than better hardware.
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You obviously don't root your phones cause if you did then you would know that hardware is everything...?
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You obviously don't root your phones cause if you did then you would know that hardware is everything...?
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hardware isn't everything... source is everything.
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You obviously don't root your phones cause if you did then you would know that hardware is everything...?
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I rooted mine.. hardware is nothing with crap software and no support from the manufacturer whatsoever.
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You obviously don't root your phones cause if you did then you would know that hardware is everything...?
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LoL person with no knowledge of android development.
deaffob said:
LoL person with no knowledge of android development.
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Omg, are you for real? It wasn't even a serious comment lmao! Go trade your fascinate for an HTC if software is all you want. Here is one for ya! "lighten up, and live a little?" Yeah? Maybe? HaHa...
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I just never saw the draw of the thunderbolt. Most of the country doesn't have 4g and its still single core.
OTB'd CM6 FTW
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I just never saw the draw of the thunderbolt. Most of the country doesn't have 4g and its still single core.
OTB'd CM6 FTW
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I was actually messing with a TB yesterday and I think it is pretty cool but not cool e'nuff. There are to many big dawgz coming out soon, and like you said 4g is probably 2 years from my area...!
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Omg, are you for real? It wasn't even a serious comment lmao! Go trade your fascinate for an HTC if software is all you want. Here is one for ya! "lighten up, and live a little?" Yeah? Maybe? HaHa...
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Actually you were serious but you realized you were being stupid so you are trying to cover yourself up. I would trade it I can fyi.
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Kernels will help with the battery life, and I've used it and I don't mind the heaviness at all. The main reasons why I'm not bothering to upgrade to it is because the screen isn't as nice, and the GPU doesn't seem as good as the Fascinate's. To expand on that GPU point, I used Neocore on my sister's Thunderbolt and my Fascinate at the same time, and my Fascinate performed smoother and quicker, however the final FPS score was apparently better on the Thunderbolt's, which I found strange. However visuals don't lie, while benchmarks sometimes do (especially quadrants).
Overall, I'd just wait for a decent dual-core phone on Verizon, rather than upgrading to the Thunderbolt. Galaxy S II anyone?
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That might be because the fascinate is framerate limited to ~60 fps, it won't go above 60, even if the GPU could run it faster
Battery life for me has been similar to my fascinate and it was worth switching just to be able to use data while I'm using the phone. My area won't have LTE for another year but I use a lot of data and getting an unlimited plan while verizon still offers them seemed prudent.
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I'm definitely hoping the GSII will come to Verizon. The Exynos processor, the screen, the thinness and weight, and the extra codecs are pure awesomeness.
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and the lack up support is what I'm dying for. J/K, but really I would never buy another samsung, anything!
Hello,
Just wanted your thoughts on the Official Gingerbread for Vibrant.
Do you think it will ever come?
Do you even care?
Any feedback is appreciated .
Cm7 is gingerbread so its already out lol
Need help with cm7? Pm me I can try to help
I don't think about it because I don't care. Gingerbread for the Vibrant 3G is the last thing on Samsungs list.
i have cm7 so i could care less! i will be getting the hercules in a few months anyway
The Gingerbread ROMS are already pretty smooth and nice so I no longer care about the stock one which they seem that don't even WANT to update.
Whatev's when I get the chance I will be buying the SGSII.
...When it doesn't cost a lung for me lol
It's not going to happen.
And neither will me buying another Samsung mobile device, ever.
Ditto.
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Probably not coming since the Galaxy S 4G is essentially the successor to the original Vibrant. It would be a terrible sales decision for T-Mobile to support the older model, especially when the two are almost identical except for 4G, an FFC, and the lack of internal storage on the 4G.
I hate u guys.
I guess my best bet is to hunt craigslist for a nexus s.
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Really?
No CM7 is the same experience you will get with a Nexus S.
Buy a dual core phone or
Wait for next year.
Quad Cores aren't supposed to be ready until Q3 2012 or early 2013.
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I wouldn't mind waiting, I've played around with the 4g vibrant, and I like the 3g model better. The ffc is no big deal with me.
But I have a gut feeling that it will be early next year before we get a 2.3 from tmobile.
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It's not going to happen.
And neither will me buying another Samsung mobile device, ever.
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Prolly the same thing you said about froyo. No faith
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I cant afford a new dual core and my plan isnt up til dec of next year. Nexus seems the way to go unless u guys wanna buy me a hercules
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Really?
No CM7 is the same experience you will get with a Nexus S.
Buy a dual core phone or
Wait for next year.
Quad Cores aren't supposed to be ready until Q3 2012 or early 2013.
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Sorry, but current dual cores devices are useless and equally as fast as the Nexus S since ICS is yet to be released to optimize Android for multicore devices. You may as well get the one phone guaranteed to get ICS which will increase the Nexus's speed as well. The G2X looks like its not getting ICS and the Sensation would be bogged down by Sense again. Galaxy S2, maybe.
No offense because the 2.3 Roms out right now are smooth. But they straight murder the battery life. Why have a mobile device if you a charge every 8 hours.
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Prolly the same thing you said about froyo. No faith
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No, I held out hope because Samsung promised and promised and promised, and there was a BIG media hullabaloo about the lack of timeliness on the 2.2 update.
Samsung has had exactly ONE press release saying they're putting 2.3 on "all" Galaxy S phones and nobody in the media is talking about a lack of update. Basically, it's as if no-one cares, Samsung included. Only a few people on forums are making any fuss about it, and everybody knows forums in general fly fairly low under the radar.
I still say we're not going to see it, and even if Samsung delivers it before the end of the year, it's far too little far too late. I have no desire to reward their failures and apathy with more purchases.
edit: Oh, and you can thank the ****ing SGS 4G for the lack of an update. IT'S getting 2.3 leaks left and ****ing right, and the rumor is from devs in the know that there isn't even 2.3 source code in existence for the Vibrant.
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Sorry, but current dual cores devices are useless and equally as fast as the Nexus S since ICS is yet to be released to optimize Android for multicore devices. You may as well get the one phone guaranteed to get ICS which will increase the Nexus's speed as well. The G2X looks like its not getting ICS and the Sensation would be bogged down by Sense again. Galaxy S2, maybe.
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You are right the good thing about dual cores is one core is incharge of one process and other core incharge of another process. This would probably be best for me as I am constantly studying in school, and switch between apps really fast and single core just cant take from browser to xxxx app to xxxx app and back to browser without it getting stuck!?
If you got like 15 apps and just use it for ROMS and GPS and shiny fast things then by all means stick with the Galaxy S.
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Prolly the same thing you said about froyo. No faith
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Yep just ask the behold 2 users oh wait they never did get their update never mind.
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It's not going to happen.
And neither will me buying another Samsung mobile device, ever.
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This........
Galaxy S2 will go no longer than Ice Cream Sandwich.
Galaxy S3 will only go like 2 updates
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What company will start to use terahertz. Gigahertz is so old school now. And is boring. What company will have it in there phone first?
LG
HTC
Samsung
Kyocera
Apple
HP Palm
Dell
Motorola
Sanyo
Submit ur vote!
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Wait what? high end computers don't go past 6 or 8 gigahertz at the very maximum and you think we're gonna get something 100 times what we have now any time soon? Or am I mistaken in the definition of terahertz, which j doubt.
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Wait what? high end computers don't go past 6 or 8 gigahertz at the very maximum and you think we're gonna get something 100 times what we have now any time soon? Or am I mistaken in the definition of terahertz, which j doubt.
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I second this, I mean if you asked who would hit 2 Ghz or first quad core on sale it would be am interesting post but terahertz?
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High end computers dont go that high even with overclocking. So what makes you think phones can? Phones dont even reach 2ghz and thats low for computers.
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REDO. Sorry this was a dumb thread.
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Fail in epic proportions
Nope, no...let's keep this going.
I say....140 years.
This is when we find unobtainium, some 80-100 years from now. It will take another 40ish years before we can harness the power in computers.
A thz processor would require a nitrogen cooling system and a 10000 mah stock battery.
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A thz processor would require a nitrogen cooling system and a 10000 mah stock battery.
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that would be the most epic phone ever.
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Terahertz is old school. How about googlehertz?
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What company will start to use terahertz. Gigahertz is so old school now. And is boring. What company will have it in there phone first?
LG
HTC
Samsung
Kyocera
Apple
HP Palm
Dell
Motorola
Sanyo
Submit ur vote!
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I vote my local fire department
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/08/ibm-shows-off-155ghz-graphene-transistor-in-the-name-of-darpa-re/
well, it's about 1/10th of the way there, but years down the road, who knows what will come of this
I think we all stand corrected on the quad core thing.
Apple to face fast Android tablets - http://pulse.me/s/1ak2S
(might not work for you guys since it is copied from pulse.)
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/08/ibm-shows-off-155ghz-graphene-transistor-in-the-name-of-darpa-re/
well, it's about 1/10th of the way there, but years down the road, who knows what will come of this
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Mind you, a transistor isn't a processor! A single modern processor includes approximately one billion transistors!
Hz also isn't everything, in the PC world, the trend for the last several years have been to improve the IPC, rather than the Hz! It's the reason that a Pentium 4 running nearly 4 GHz would be crushed by a Sandy Bridge running at <2 GHz (even ignoring the extra cores).
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I think we all stand corrected on the quad core thing.
Apple to face fast Android tablets - http://pulse.me/s/1ak2S
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How exactly do we stand corrected? It doesn't seem to be contradicting anything... in either this or the quad core thread! If anything, it backs up the claim that nVidia will be first with quad core processors (none of that info in that article looks at all recent, at least a couple months old!).
Just calculate it using Moore's law, though that thinking has a different meaning as technologies mature. Googlehertz makes more sense. Derp.
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All I got go say is if you have a upgrade coming up soon this is the phone to get. If your worried about the lack of a physical keyboard trust me I feel your pain but after having this phone for about 3days already I can honestly say I don't miss the physical keyboard at all. This phone is so much earlier to root and install customs roms. The speed is incredible and with the right rom and kernel combo you can easily get over 6000 on the benchmarks score. Oh if your short on cash don't worry what ever corporate sprint store you go to they will buy back your old epic for 80.00. If you got an upgrade coming the touch is the way to go. Did I mention front facing video recorder. Well anyway it was indeed a pleasure being apart of this wonderful forum for over a year I hope to see you soon over on the epic touch forums. Take care.
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I'm more worried about LTE. My next phone must have it.
My area will probably never have a proper WiMax deployment but LTE is a sure thing and extremely exciting to say the least. I have some cool stuf to bring back soon.
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More than likely all the higher end duel core phones will have it.
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I know, hopefully I can get a quad.
edit: maps removed to not thread jack as much link to post in LTE thread
Nah, galaxy s2 is better, but wait for s3 LTE
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More than likely all the higher end duel core phones will have it.
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Why would people update only to be stuck on contract for two years with no LTE? Plus the keyboard is still a need for me or a bigger screen the Galaxy Nexus sized screen is looking good for me. You mentioned it was easier to root and install custom ROM on the ET4G how exactly can it be easier than a one click root on froyo or flashing clockwork mod on gingerbread, then flashing a ROM in clockwork?...also with CM7(which is official on our phone now) we get front facing camera video recording also. So I don't really see the need to get an ET4G
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Negatives:
-800x480 screen: So 2 years ago. 1280x720 AMOLED or bust.
-WiMax: They're not expanding to my area, so I'd rather go with the future LTE.
-Quad-Core phones are coming out. Higher performance ceiling at the same battery use, or even less with newer deep sleep modes.
My upgrade isn't until june, so I'll be going Quad-core.
While the ET4G is undoubtedly the best Sprint phone, I don't think it is worth using an upgrade on. The OG Epic is still a very good phone and is only getting better thanks to the great work of our devs. I will be using my upgrade on a quad core LTE 1280x720 monster phone. Probably the GS3.
Wait for an LTE device. Would be the best logical phone choice imo
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I will be using my upgrade on a quad core LTE 1280x720 monster phone. Probably the GS3.
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Hell yes
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dtugg said:
While the ET4G is undoubtedly the best Sprint phone, I don't think it is worth using an upgrade on. The OG Epic is still a very good phone and is only getting better thanks to the great work of our devs. I will be using my upgrade on a quad core LTE 1280x720 monster phone. Probably the GS3.
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Yuuuuuuuup; I've decided this as well.
I bought my daughter (15 yrs old spoiled rotten brat, lol I kid) the Touch. sprint had a nice sale + her upgrade which made it a nice xmas gift.
I've played with it some and I do really like the Touch; for me personally, there isn't enough of a hardware change to switch ATM
3 words why not to get the Touch right now:
Ell Tee Eeeeeeeeeee!
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Yeah, wait for LTE, no need to upgrade yet.
im waiting for a nice solid htc.
im done with plastic samsung crap.
At this point I might as well wait until my contract is up in July and get the next generation of phones, which I hope have an LTE radio.
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im waiting for a nice solid htc.
im done with plastic samsung crap.
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I guess you never seen the POS EVO shift. 2 ounces of cheap toy plastic!
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Gavisann said:
At this point I might as well wait until my contract is up in July and get the next generation of phones, which I hope have an LTE radio.
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When it comes to electronics... I generally skip a generation!
Galaxy S waiting on Galaxy S III
iPod Touch 3G waiting on iPod Touch 4G (Maybe...)
Playstation 2 waiting on Playstation 4
2D TV waiting on 4D TV
2WD Car waiting on 6WD Car
...
???
i was thinking about the white epic touch, but wouldn't use an upgrade for it, just the tax refund.
See a lot of people waiting on the GS3 but the 2 isn't that old, how long would it be till 3 comes out? Are there official mumblings of a 3 with specs n such or is this all just assumption?
No 4G in my area and who knows when I'll get it, not sure waiting on LTE is worth it.
*edit* also I wouldn't be using an upgrade if I did get a new one, just pay for it straight up. Store guys hate it when you get a phone without a contract though.
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Yup...quad core 2 Ghz. Around summer 2012.
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