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I've searched on here and on google, found a few people referencing the same issue but no resolution.
When flipping through albums coverflow style, and selecting one, it plays the songs in alphabetical order, not track order. If I go into the album using the list, it plays back properly. Anyone managed to solve this issue, or doesn't get it at all? I got it on the original T-Mobile rom, and also on Modaco 2.2.
Also, does anyone know how to get it to let you flip through albums again once you have gone down to a lower level?
I think your describing the same problem twice .
The 'album flip' is just that it displays the album art for what is in the NowPlaying list. Songs from the same album are grouped together if they are queued neatly next to each other.
So, if I got 2 songs from album A in the NowPlaying list, then 2 songs from album B, then 2 songs from album A again.... it will display 3 albums in the flip.
If you would add all your music on your SD card back to the NowPlaying list, neatly ordered by album / track, you would get the flip back that you want.
But since the music player has a simple dumb bug in that it adds the songs in the completely wrong order, the only method of doing so is creating a playlist with all your music beforehand on your PC and opening that.
Yeah I think you're right. If I go into the album list, then select play all, it nearly works - it lets me flip through the albums correctly, but the tracks are then in alphabetical order. It's nearly there, and better than it was on the Diamond, but still frustrating!
and making a playlist that contains all your music (make it on the PC, with the songs in the correct order) does that help? Not perfect, but at least a work around until they fix the music-order bug.
I use media monkey to upload music and the generated playlists work fine.
Hi. I'm new to this so apologies if this problem has already been answered. I've bought and installed a 16GB sd card in my HD2 and have transferred a fair bit of music to listen to. However media player is playing albums in an incorrect order (seemingly random, not alphabetical). When I transfer an album from the sd card to the 'my music' folder on the device, it plays in the right order! I've tried neptune which plays in the correct order but that won't respond to my bluetooth headset (when I press play, it automatically uses media player). Now when I copied and pasted an album onto my device which was also on the sd card, media player displayed the tracks twice in the correct order 1-15 consecutively (1-15, then 1-15 again). I deleted the device version and the sd card version went back to the seemingly random order. Can anyone solve this irritating problem?
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Could I just add that when I say the problem is with windows media player I am reffering to the music player within HTC sense. Please help!
I have the same issue, very irritating , could anybody help please??
A poor solution
Right, until I can better this I'm gonna cut and paste the album I want to listen to from the sd card onto the device.
No
No, that doesn't work
Have the same problem with the HTC music application and Windows Media Player. Pocket Player and Pocket Tunes don't have this problem.
A solution that works!
Right, it's like this. Got to settings>personalize>home screen tabs and uncheck 'music'. Open 'Windows media player' either by playing a song off your music folder or adding a quick link to it. Then click 'library' and get it to scan for al your files. Now use windows media player as your player not HTC sense and it will all be fine. Thank goodness!
is there the same resolution for the HTC player?
Thanks mate. Now I can see it works fine on the Windows media player. but thats a pain to use with those annoying menus. I like the HTC player as its very much like the iphone player & its easy to use. Has anyone found the fix for the HTC player or is there another good working player thats similar to the iphone player.
Cheers
Shala
Hasn't anyone found a solution to this silly problem yet?
When you transfer music to the device, it apparently removes any existing track order, yet not every album is out of order when I play it on the HD2! It makes no sense at all.
Using WMP is no solution, I'd rather play the music without order or sit for several hours making playlists for every album.
EDIT: Googling the problem, I found a thread about a problem like this for the HTC Touch Pro, where a solution was proposed:
Found a solution for you...
you will need a registry editor for your HTC Touch Pro. I recommend the PHM registry editor (google it).
Locate the following key. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\HTCAlbum\Ignored and modify the key Music Gizmo1 to the path you want the music file to be stored. I created a folder on the SD card named MUSIC and updated the path to \Storage Card\Music then rebooted the phone and all is well. Now I can turn off my phone, pop in the SD card and copy all my tunes over and bam.. I have all my songs at my finger tips. I hope this helps
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I'll be trying it later today.
hi,
if this does not work, i can share my application. It scans your music folder and generates playlists in the correct order.
it uses mp3 and wma tags for cd and track sequence. it works well for me but sometimes you need to clean up tags on desktop before copying music.
I have a 16 gb card as well and all my albums are ordered correctly using playlists instead.
I am sure using media monkey to synch gives you an option to push playlists as well and should give desured results.
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Hasn't anyone found a solution to this silly problem yet?
When you transfer music to the device, it apparently removes any existing track order, yet not every album is out of order when I play it on the HD2! It makes no sense at all.
Using WMP is no solution, I'd rather play the music without order or sit for several hours making playlists for every album.
EDIT: Googling the problem, I found a thread about a problem like this for the HTC Touch Pro, where a solution was proposed:
I'll be trying it later today.
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Damn, it didn't work. Quite disappointing.
Now how about this app that you mentioned?
And I can't find such a function in Media Monkey, any ideas?
Regarding media monkey please have a look at here:
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f41/tutorial-syncing-music-and-playlists-3761/
You will need to connect the device in usb disk mode and then you can synchronise playlists when uploading tracks.
I will upload the application later on today or earlier tomorrow morning. I would however recommend the option above first as the application I have is picky on the tags and it expects track numbers and disc numbers to be set correctly in metadata.
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the application I have is picky on the tags and it expects track numbers and disc numbers to be set correctly in metadata.
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They are. I'm also picky.
But yeah, the Media Monkey solution does sound smoother, I will try it out.
Thanks.
Hi again,
I have attached the files to this post. I still think, if Media Monkey option works for you thats the way to go. But this little tool helped me with the track order issues I had.
If your files are not in \Storage Card\music folder, you will need to set the location using the botton next to the text box.
Then you need to point the location to save the playlists. For me "\storage card\playlists" worked with every version of manila I used (Polaris, Diamond, HD, HD2)
It only supports mp3 and wma so there isnt much point to add more extensions, however you can remove one to exclude files of that extension.
Once all set up, you need to chose file - > Create playlists and application will scan your files and save the playlists in desired location.
I am using it with 16GB card and on Hd2 its pretty fast.
Here are some limitations:
1 - Extra information is created in the palylist file but still, when you select the playlist in manila player, it does not show fields like artist.
2 - Although some tags are valid, they cause errors in the application. I have some very old track I converted from CD's records mid/late 90s and if I see the issue on the mobile, I just run an application like Musicbrainz Picard to reftesh the tags and it all working again.
3 - If you have multi cd albums and disc numbers are not tagged, the track order may not be correct.
I always use usb mode to copy tracks and for me this tool works good enough to create the playlists the way I want to listen.
Hope it helps someone.
Simple Fix that worked for me
I to had the same problem with CD coming up in the wrong order in the player in HTC sense. When I checked what CD's were in the wrong order I noticed that they were all ones I had purchased off itunes and that the track information wasn't being picked up by my windows desktop. So i converted all my itunes music to MP3s using real player converter and now all of my library is in the correct order.
Hello,
I have the same problem. However, the tags are properly showing in all of these software :
MusicBrainz Picard
Windows Media Player
Windows 7 properties
So the track numbers seem to be correctly assigned. But still, the album tracks don't appear in the correct order for several albums in the HTC audio software.
The playlist utility keeps crashing on me, too.
By the way the HTC support regarding this issue is *terrible*, they keep telling me that the player sorts the music by "last time you played it". Nope. It doesn't. If so, when I play a single track, it would either pop at first place in the album or last place, depending on what they meant in their ballistic explanation (1 sentence). It, obviously, doesn't, and a player acting like that would be the stupidest music player in the world.
Does anyone have a solution ?
Did the "MediaMonkey" solution work,Overlord Yuri ?
Thanks in advance for any anwsers,
Regards
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Did the "MediaMonkey" solution work,Overlord Yuri ?
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I barely tried and didn't have any luck. Since then I've given up..
Oh, okay.
Thank you for your input, anyway.
This thing with the HTC support is starting to get on my nerves, especially how they still try to convince me that the problem will go away if I hard reset the phone (nope, done two times already due to FixOperaFlash ruining my config, and still the music player doesn't work)...
I have figured a work around to the track order problem.
Download mp3tag you can find it on download.com or just google it.
I opend up all my music and looked at the albums that were out of order.
They seemed fine. I just right click on the track and saved the tag. I though why not nothing else seems to work.
I resynced the album and it was in order!
I guess try it out and see if it works.
S**t man , it worked !
HUGE thanks to you !
By the way I just opened the whole library (which was already on the phone), selected all, and clicked on save so it refreshed all tags. And after deleting /Application Data/HTC/Audio Manager/AudioManager_eng.vol so it regenerates the library, it worked like a charm.
If i try to sort by artists or search in music it crashes and says not enough space in music database...I have 4gb of free space on card and more than that on device, any help?
same here, I would love a fix because I actually like the stock player and dont want to change it out.
is moving to the internal sd an option?
i had the same issue and found a thread here or on another site suggesting to move the music to the internal sd card. i did this and it worked for me.
granted, you have to have less than ~13G of music for this workaround.
I did not have this problem with the music stored on the external SD card (2gb, damn near to useless). With the music on the internal storage, I get this problem. I for one think it's completely unbelievable that this $500 device with 16gb of internal storage can't handle 10gb of music stored on it. I had a guy tell me music players weren't that great for android phones, but I didn't imagine it could be this bad. I've been trying all weekend and I have yet to find anything offering even minimal functionality. This really blows my mind.
Any help would be deeply appreciated.
i have a 16gb card full of songs and i don't have this error
Does it matter how the files are organized?
What about when using a different music player?
I have a co-worker who also has the phone and is seeing this problem. I've got a 32gb card coming in the mail and I was hoping to put my music collection on it. If the app can't handle a certain size, that will suck.
Could it also be the music file types/bitrates?
Anyone have any idea why some are seeing this and others not?
The first time I synced I didn't have trouble, and then, after adding a bunch of album art I get it consistently. I haven't bothered to track it down past that, since switching to Mixzing worked around the problem.
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i have a 16gb card full of songs and i don't have this error
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QFT, I have no issues aswell
I finally got my sd card and put it in the system. I started transferring my music and it quite near the end with something about the path being to deep. However, with about 16.5 out of 17.5 gb transfered I was able to sort by artist without a hitch.
I don't know why the transfer failed because when I plugged it back in and resumed where it left off every thing transfered fine.
However, I now get the out of memory crash when sorting by artist.
Not sure if it is some particular file (name, length, etc.), or if it is because my damn dog decided to run into the cord and unplug it without safely unmounting, but i'll try and figure it out.
I'm going to delete files, from the set that didn't transfer the first time, one by one until it works or I get back to the state where it was working. If nothing comes of that, I'll delete all and add back in until it stops working.
Maybe it is the number of artists? The files that didn't transfer the first time where from the various artists folder in my collection.
Or maybe warren g and nate dogg regulated my stock music app?
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It appears it is related to the number of artists.
I reproduced the problem, then went into my various artists folder and removed albums one by one until the problem went away. I then added the album back in that made the difference between it working and not. I then removed a song at a time until the problem went away again. I then added a song from another artist back in and it once again failed.
So it appears there is a cap on the number of artists.
I'll continue working on this and report back the exact number of artists that causes the issue.
OK, well I thought was the number of artists, but now I'm not so sure.
Maybe it has something to do with how the app handles various artists and/or unknown artists.
I added all my music, then deleted tracks from various artist albums until it worked again. I then put back the various artist album track and it didn't work, as expected.
I thought this was artist based, but when I got it working again--by deleting the track mentioned above--and then added a track for a various artist album by an artist that already existed, the app crashed too.
I then thought it might be song based. So I removed that song and then added a set of songs. However, it unexpectantly worked.
The difference with the set of songs added above is that they weren't part of a various artist album. They were a new artist, but the main album artist wasn't Various with a Contributing artist of the actual artist name. Instead, the Album Artist was the artist name and the contributing artist was left blank (or had the same name).
So, it is that the music app doesn't understand how to handle various artist albums?
Could someone else with this problem remove all the various artist albums from their collection and see if their app works again?
DLarva: Thanks, your post was very helpful.
I read elsewhere that when the player has a hard time with VA tracks, it does not recognize them as separate albums or something. Does it allow you to have some tracks by "Various Artists", but then begin to fail after reaching a certain number?
This is good that you found that was the key, because it is easy to work around!
On my vibrant I can only have 3 songs from a various artists album. It doesn't matter what the other tags are--like contributing artist--as long as the album artist is Various.
I'm guessing others will have a different number. This is because when I was experimenting I once had it working with several more various artist songs, but that was when I was missing a handful of my standard albums.
So it seems that various artist songs cause the issue, but that the number your vibrant will handle varies by the amount of artists or standard songs you have on your system--or some other unknown factor.
Any chance something like this will get fixed?
Anyone out there also dealing with this issue and can tell me how many Various Artist tracks they can get on their phone before it crashes when sorted by artist?
I'd like to try and narrow this down a bit further before calling Samsung tech support.
Found a co-worker with a Vibrant and confirmed that he could have a different number of various artist songs on his.
Also deleted a folder for an artist with 3 ablums and was able to add 3 albums worth of various artist songs.
So, it either is something like the number of folders or perhaps albums, or it is some complicated combination of things.
have this problem and it is ****ing annoying. Have to use TuneWiki instead of the stock app.
Just when I think I have it figured out, it all goes to...
I added a new album, from an existing artist, and now without any various artist albums I'm getting the crash.
At this point I'm left with the conclusion that its the number of songs, or folders, or some combination to complicated to figure out.
Anyone else have any thoughts?
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I know workarounds suck for something like this, but there is another one available if you don't want to stop using the TW music player, and you don't want to delete or relocate your music.
Basically, you copy all artist information to Composer in the ID3 tag, and hide the artist tab in the TW music player. All functionality will be there.
I used mp3tag, and it worked really well.
If anyone is interested...
1. Load up your music in mp3tag
2. Select all your music in the app.
3. Push Alt-5.
4. On top right, click on "New".
5. Name it anything you want.
6. Click on "New" again.
7. On the drop-down, click on "Format Value".
8. In Field, select "COMPOSER".
9. Click on the right arrow next to Format String, and select "Artist".
10. Click OK... OK.... Make sure that only your new action is checked, and click OK again.
11. Click on Save.
This doesn't rename your files or change functionality or usability at all.
Now your music is formatted so that when you show the Composer tab on your Vibrant, it will show you all artists.
And it doesn't crash when sorted by composer with the same set of files that crashed when sorted by artist?
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Hey guys, I noticed that my music + video tile isn't "live". It doesn't show the artist pictures when I'm playing music. I found a solution online, where they said to go to settings and ensure that "Connect with Zune" is ON. That isn't even in my settings, the only thing in my settings menu is "Zune Account Settings" which opens up IE and takes me to the zune website.
All my music is tagged correctly, and in the zune software on my PC it shows the artist and has information about them, so I don't know what's going on.
Hope someone more proficient can help me out.
Does it do this for common big artists? Like Jay-Z for example? Sometimes zune does not have the pictures for certain artists. If while playing music in the zune player, you see the artists picture in the background, then it will update the zune live tile, if all you see when viewing now playing is the album art on a black background, the live tile won't update.
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Does it do this for common big artists? Like Jay-Z for example? Sometimes zune does not have the pictures for certain artists. If while playing music in the zune player, you see the artists picture in the background, then it will update the zune live tile, if all you see when viewing now playing is the album art on a black background, the live tile won't update.
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All I see is the album art, including big artists like Jay-Z and Linkin Park.
Maybe its trying to tell you to listen to something else.
J/k. ;-)
Ok so I think the live tile will only update with zune pass music. I just added a song I downloaded off of the internet. A missing song to an actual zune marketplace album I had. When that song plays, there is no artist in the background, when another song from the same album but from the zune marketplace plays it does update the background (which then will update the live tile)
So from my testing it seems that you need zune marketplace content or possibly a zune pass.
Not a solution but hopefully it helps.
You can try to make sure that the files you're trying to play are properly tagged (i.e. the Artist Name, Album Name, Album Artist Name, Year, Genre, etc. are all correct according to the Zune database).
PocketNow posted up a "Zune Social Tagger" program that might make the Zune features work but I have yet to try it myself.
h**p://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/full-visual-experience-on-windows-phone-7-music-playback
None of my music was from Zune Marketplace, nor do I have a Zune Pass, and my tile works fine. As long as the tile shows in the Zune program before I sync, it shows on my phone. If it's not showing in Zune, then maybe the tags are wrong.
Attached is an image of my MetaData settings. Maybe you need to allow Zune to update AND Replace your MetaData as I have here...
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All I see is the album art, including big artists like Jay-Z and Linkin Park.
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try to update song the information in zune simply right click on the sone and click update album info it will go to the album online select the sone and it will update it... should work after that..
Thanks for all the replies guys, I'm going to use the Zune Social Tagger, and if that doesn't work, I'll try updating everything manually.
I'll report once I finish.
Cheers
So the situation has only gotten worse lol
My settings have already been the same as what SuperSport was saying. I tried the Zune Social Connect, and it's not really helpful, it doesn't link your music automatically, you have to go through one by one...so it's the same as just doing it through zune, right clicking and updating.
After I synced with my Focus, now the zune player on my PC NEVER shows the animations in the background anymore! and that's even with the correct tags, and it's linked through Zune and Zune recognizes the album, songs, and artist.
I'm so confused now...this is frustrating lol
Noticed you are in Canada. Zune music isn't yet available up here so I suspect some of the tie ins that it offers isn't going to show for Canaadian Live IDs. Hopefully when/if the service launches up here that functionality will start showing.
(note: not 100% sure this is the cause but know my tile doesn't update either)
Still loving the phone though!
I think I can explain what might have happened...the only thing that changed since my Zune on PC won't play any background artists is that I've switched my local from U.S. to Canada...could it be just because we are in Canada, we don't get the artist pictures?
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Noticed you are in Canada. Zune music isn't yet available up here so I suspect some of the tie ins that it offers isn't going to show for Canaadian Live IDs. Hopefully when/if the service launches up here that functionality will start showing.
(note: not 100% sure this is the cause but know my tile doesn't update either)
Still loving the phone though!
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Does the Zune software on your computer have all the artist playing in the background?
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I think I can explain what might have happened...the only thing that changed since my Zune on PC won't play any background artists is that I've switched my local from U.S. to Canada...could it be just because we are in Canada, we don't get the artist pictures?
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That wasn't it, switched back to US and still no animations =(
I don't play music much from my PC. Just tested Zune and it seems to pull up a collage of all album coverart it has registered in the background when playing music.
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I don't play music much from my PC. Just tested Zune and it seems to pull up a collage of all album coverart it has registered in the background when playing music.
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That's what my Zune does now. It used to (if you had all the tags correct) show slideshows/pictures of the artist that is playing. Pictures that you probably never saw before, and NOT album art.
If it cannot show those pictures, it reverts to the album art of all the albums you have and it shows it in the background.
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I'm having the same issue as the OP.
I'm not sure if this is all related to Country Code or not, but this is my experience:
When I first got my Samsung Focus, I initially used a Windows Live account with a country code of USA. Under this account, Zune for WP7 worked as expected. It grabbed all the artist pics, bios etc from the Zune.net.
Due to a Windows Live Contacts issue, I decided to hard reset my Focus & use a Canadian Windows Live account. Since then, I've noticed that Zune for WP7 does not load any of the artist pics, bios etc from Zune.net.
I guess the only way to verify this is to perform another hard reset back to the USA Live account & see if the artist info loads again.
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I'm having the same issue as the OP.
I'm not sure if this is all related to Country Code or not, but this is my experience:
When I first got my Samsung Focus, I initially used a Windows Live account with a country code of USA. Under this account, Zune for WP7 worked as expected. It grabbed all the artist pics, bios etc from the Zune.net.
Due to a Windows Live Contacts issue, I decided to hard reset my Focus & use a Canadian Windows Live account. Since then, I've noticed that Zune for WP7 does not load any of the artist pics, bios etc from Zune.net.
I guess the only way to verify this is to perform another hard reset back to the USA Live account & see if the artist info loads again.
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I've managed to get the WP7 Zune to display all the extra artist details. From what I can tell, this functionality is dependent on your country code. What I'm clear on are the bare minimum settings that are required to get this to work.
For me, I factory reset my Focus. After the reset, I added a primary Windows Live account with a United States country code. At this point, I loaded some music but Zune wasn't pulling any artist info yet. I'm not sure if Zune just needed time to download the info or not. I didn't wait very long for the next step so this could be the only requirement to get this working. The 2nd country code change I made was in the Marketplace & it prompted me to choose a country. Canada was the default value but I changed it to USA. Even after this change, it took a few minutes before I started to see artist info. If everything is configured correctly, you should see the option to buy music in the Marketplace which I don't think Canadian accounts see.
At any rate, I hope this helps.
Cheers.
Similar problem
I get an artist image to show up on the tile, but on my phone it's a different artist than what's playing.
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I get an artist image to show up on the tile, but on my phone it's a different artist than what's playing.
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I shouldn't ask this, as I'm sure you know what you are looking at, but could it be another photo of the artist, not the one on the front of the album? I've noticed that a few times. It will sometimes show them in different situations.
Hello everyone,
Using the HD dock and launching into Entertainment Center, the music player finds all my albums just fine, but presents them in alphabetical order (not track order) by track name. I have all the necessary ID3 tags filled out correctly -- in fact, the songs are named <artist> - <album> - <track #> - <track name>.mp3 so it's actually pulling the track names from the ID3 tags, but (seemingly) ignoring the track number tag.
Does anyone know if there's a way to change the play order to follow track numbers and not track names?
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Hello everyone,
Using the HD dock and launching into Entertainment Center, the music player finds all my albums just fine, but presents them in alphabetical order (not track order) by track name. I have all the necessary ID3 tags filled out correctly -- in fact, the songs are named <artist> - <album> - <track #> - <track name>.mp3 so it's actually pulling the track names from the ID3 tags, but (seemingly) ignoring the track number tag.
Does anyone know if there's a way to change the play order to follow track numbers and not track names?
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are they m4a's by any chance? I had this issue, I mass converted everything to mp3 and it solved it.
No, they're all MP3s. All fully tagged (and even named as I mentioned in the OP).
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No, they're all MP3s. All fully tagged (and even named as I mentioned in the OP).
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Try reripping a CD or loading some DL'd mp3s and see if that works. The ones I had issue with were CDs I ripped 4-5 years ago. My newer stuff was fine. There are multiple versions of ID3 so maybe the ones that you have issues with are old.
You can use mp3tag to view the ID3 version and metadata (to compare something that orders properly with something that doesn't)