Hey guys, I noticed that my music + video tile isn't "live". It doesn't show the artist pictures when I'm playing music. I found a solution online, where they said to go to settings and ensure that "Connect with Zune" is ON. That isn't even in my settings, the only thing in my settings menu is "Zune Account Settings" which opens up IE and takes me to the zune website.
All my music is tagged correctly, and in the zune software on my PC it shows the artist and has information about them, so I don't know what's going on.
Hope someone more proficient can help me out.
Does it do this for common big artists? Like Jay-Z for example? Sometimes zune does not have the pictures for certain artists. If while playing music in the zune player, you see the artists picture in the background, then it will update the zune live tile, if all you see when viewing now playing is the album art on a black background, the live tile won't update.
wrxdrunkie said:
Does it do this for common big artists? Like Jay-Z for example? Sometimes zune does not have the pictures for certain artists. If while playing music in the zune player, you see the artists picture in the background, then it will update the zune live tile, if all you see when viewing now playing is the album art on a black background, the live tile won't update.
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All I see is the album art, including big artists like Jay-Z and Linkin Park.
Maybe its trying to tell you to listen to something else.
J/k. ;-)
Ok so I think the live tile will only update with zune pass music. I just added a song I downloaded off of the internet. A missing song to an actual zune marketplace album I had. When that song plays, there is no artist in the background, when another song from the same album but from the zune marketplace plays it does update the background (which then will update the live tile)
So from my testing it seems that you need zune marketplace content or possibly a zune pass.
Not a solution but hopefully it helps.
You can try to make sure that the files you're trying to play are properly tagged (i.e. the Artist Name, Album Name, Album Artist Name, Year, Genre, etc. are all correct according to the Zune database).
PocketNow posted up a "Zune Social Tagger" program that might make the Zune features work but I have yet to try it myself.
h**p://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/full-visual-experience-on-windows-phone-7-music-playback
None of my music was from Zune Marketplace, nor do I have a Zune Pass, and my tile works fine. As long as the tile shows in the Zune program before I sync, it shows on my phone. If it's not showing in Zune, then maybe the tags are wrong.
Attached is an image of my MetaData settings. Maybe you need to allow Zune to update AND Replace your MetaData as I have here...
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All I see is the album art, including big artists like Jay-Z and Linkin Park.
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try to update song the information in zune simply right click on the sone and click update album info it will go to the album online select the sone and it will update it... should work after that..
Thanks for all the replies guys, I'm going to use the Zune Social Tagger, and if that doesn't work, I'll try updating everything manually.
I'll report once I finish.
Cheers
So the situation has only gotten worse lol
My settings have already been the same as what SuperSport was saying. I tried the Zune Social Connect, and it's not really helpful, it doesn't link your music automatically, you have to go through one by one...so it's the same as just doing it through zune, right clicking and updating.
After I synced with my Focus, now the zune player on my PC NEVER shows the animations in the background anymore! and that's even with the correct tags, and it's linked through Zune and Zune recognizes the album, songs, and artist.
I'm so confused now...this is frustrating lol
Noticed you are in Canada. Zune music isn't yet available up here so I suspect some of the tie ins that it offers isn't going to show for Canaadian Live IDs. Hopefully when/if the service launches up here that functionality will start showing.
(note: not 100% sure this is the cause but know my tile doesn't update either)
Still loving the phone though!
I think I can explain what might have happened...the only thing that changed since my Zune on PC won't play any background artists is that I've switched my local from U.S. to Canada...could it be just because we are in Canada, we don't get the artist pictures?
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Noticed you are in Canada. Zune music isn't yet available up here so I suspect some of the tie ins that it offers isn't going to show for Canaadian Live IDs. Hopefully when/if the service launches up here that functionality will start showing.
(note: not 100% sure this is the cause but know my tile doesn't update either)
Still loving the phone though!
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Does the Zune software on your computer have all the artist playing in the background?
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I think I can explain what might have happened...the only thing that changed since my Zune on PC won't play any background artists is that I've switched my local from U.S. to Canada...could it be just because we are in Canada, we don't get the artist pictures?
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That wasn't it, switched back to US and still no animations =(
I don't play music much from my PC. Just tested Zune and it seems to pull up a collage of all album coverart it has registered in the background when playing music.
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I don't play music much from my PC. Just tested Zune and it seems to pull up a collage of all album coverart it has registered in the background when playing music.
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That's what my Zune does now. It used to (if you had all the tags correct) show slideshows/pictures of the artist that is playing. Pictures that you probably never saw before, and NOT album art.
If it cannot show those pictures, it reverts to the album art of all the albums you have and it shows it in the background.
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I'm having the same issue as the OP.
I'm not sure if this is all related to Country Code or not, but this is my experience:
When I first got my Samsung Focus, I initially used a Windows Live account with a country code of USA. Under this account, Zune for WP7 worked as expected. It grabbed all the artist pics, bios etc from the Zune.net.
Due to a Windows Live Contacts issue, I decided to hard reset my Focus & use a Canadian Windows Live account. Since then, I've noticed that Zune for WP7 does not load any of the artist pics, bios etc from Zune.net.
I guess the only way to verify this is to perform another hard reset back to the USA Live account & see if the artist info loads again.
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I'm having the same issue as the OP.
I'm not sure if this is all related to Country Code or not, but this is my experience:
When I first got my Samsung Focus, I initially used a Windows Live account with a country code of USA. Under this account, Zune for WP7 worked as expected. It grabbed all the artist pics, bios etc from the Zune.net.
Due to a Windows Live Contacts issue, I decided to hard reset my Focus & use a Canadian Windows Live account. Since then, I've noticed that Zune for WP7 does not load any of the artist pics, bios etc from Zune.net.
I guess the only way to verify this is to perform another hard reset back to the USA Live account & see if the artist info loads again.
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I've managed to get the WP7 Zune to display all the extra artist details. From what I can tell, this functionality is dependent on your country code. What I'm clear on are the bare minimum settings that are required to get this to work.
For me, I factory reset my Focus. After the reset, I added a primary Windows Live account with a United States country code. At this point, I loaded some music but Zune wasn't pulling any artist info yet. I'm not sure if Zune just needed time to download the info or not. I didn't wait very long for the next step so this could be the only requirement to get this working. The 2nd country code change I made was in the Marketplace & it prompted me to choose a country. Canada was the default value but I changed it to USA. Even after this change, it took a few minutes before I started to see artist info. If everything is configured correctly, you should see the option to buy music in the Marketplace which I don't think Canadian accounts see.
At any rate, I hope this helps.
Cheers.
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I get an artist image to show up on the tile, but on my phone it's a different artist than what's playing.
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I get an artist image to show up on the tile, but on my phone it's a different artist than what's playing.
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I shouldn't ask this, as I'm sure you know what you are looking at, but could it be another photo of the artist, not the one on the front of the album? I've noticed that a few times. It will sometimes show them in different situations.
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I'm still having issues with the music player. I am trying to persevere with the HTC music as I like the interface, and not found another music player yet that I do like the interface on.
Over the past couple of days I've been having issues as it's not been transfering my artwork across, and also tracks appear in random orders in many albums (but not all) on the phone. I have solved the cover art problem by adding the music files using the phone as a hard drive rather than through active sync, but the tracks still appear in a random order.
I have tried using monkey media, and media jukebox to arrange my files and add artwork. The tracks appear in the right order in every music program I use, whether it be monkey media, windows media, or simply opening them up from my music on my laptop. Also, if I open up the files on the phone from my laptop the tracks are in the correct order. Can anyone solve this issue for me please? It's been causing me a headache for the past 48 hours now and I think a blood vessel is about to burst Oh, I've tried adding files from my itnes folder as well, but I get the same problem. I'm not 100% sure, but I think the order of the tracks differs each time I try adding them to the phone
Someone told me to change the tags using mp3tag, but when I run this program it won't let me change the tags, and besides I wouldn't know what to change them to. In the column that says tags, they all just say WMA anyway.
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I'm still having issues with the music player. I am trying to persevere with the HTC music as I like the interface, and not found another music player yet that I do like the interface on.
Over the past couple of days I've been having issues as it's not been transfering my artwork across, and also tracks appear in random orders in many albums (but not all) on the phone. I have solved the cover art problem by adding the music files using the phone as a hard drive rather than through active sync, but the tracks still appear in a random order.
I have tried using monkey media, and media jukebox to arrange my files and add artwork. The tracks appear in the right order in every music program I use, whether it be monkey media, windows media, or simply opening them up from my music on my laptop. Also, if I open up the files on the phone from my laptop the tracks are in the correct order. Can anyone solve this issue for me please? It's been causing me a headache for the past 48 hours now and I think a blood vessel is about to burst Oh, I've tried adding files from my itnes folder as well, but I get the same problem. I'm not 100% sure, but I think the order of the tracks differs each time I try adding them to the phone
Someone told me to change the tags using mp3tag, but when I run this program it won't let me change the tags, and besides I wouldn't know what to change them to. In the column that says tags, they all just say WMA anyway.
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I think I saw this yesterday after I reinstalled everything following the new ROM upgrade, it was annoying me but this is what I done...
Slide to the music panel/tab and wait patiently while the screen in black and appear frozen for a while. I think it is actually 'loading' the list of all of the music tracks as 'now playing'.
If, when this has loaded, you tap the library button, then randomly slide to the artist tab to select a track, and play it, it clears the 'now playing' queue to the track you have just selected. You can then go back in and create play lists etc. as you would want to usually.
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I think I saw this yesterday after I reinstalled everything following the new ROM upgrade, it was annoying me but this is what I done...
Slide to the music panel/tab and wait patiently while the screen in black and appear frozen for a while. I think it is actually 'loading' the list of all of the music tracks as 'now playing'.
If, when this has loaded, you tap the library button, then randomly slide to the artist tab to select a track, and play it, it clears the 'now playing' queue to the track you have just selected. You can then go back in and create play lists etc. as you would want to usually.
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Hi, Thanks for your reply, but I'm not sure you fully understood what I meant?
If I wait for the media to load and tap the library button it doesn't matter if I go to artist>album or directly to album, the tracks displayed for the album or in the wrong order, and play in the wrong order eg on my Dido album "Here with me" is listed as the 11th track, when actually it should be the 1st. I don't want to, and shouldn't have to create a playlist for each album just so that the tracks play in the right order. Is there a way to get the HTC music player to organise the tracks so they are listed and play in the right order, ie track 1 first, track 2 second etc? It's so frustrating
Oh, sorry. I thought you were describing the thing I had...
Sorry, I don't know how to help you, hopefully someone else will be able to assist you.
Are you sure you don't have Shuffle switched on as that will randomise your songs. It's the icon with two arrows crossing one another to the right of the word Music on the Music tab in Sense.
2 things...
First, what format are your songs ripped in?
Second, you're probably better off letting the music player get the album art for you. Just click the CD icon in the top left of the screen and it will automatically do that for you. It's obviously better to let it handle as much as it can natively.
have you tried looking at the advanced tag editor in windows media player to see what order your tracks are actually in?.as for the album art,I use mp3 tag,its an easy program to use and works everytime. I know how feel as iv come across this myself and it did my head in lol. keep us informed.....
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2 things...
First, what format are your songs ripped in?
Second, you're probably better off letting the music player get the album art for you. Just click the CD icon in the top left of the screen and it will automatically do that for you. It's obviously better to let it handle as much as it can natively.
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My songs are in WMA format, but I've also tried M4a (ie itunes)
The trouble with letting the program find the artwork is that it can't find a lot of them
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have you tried looking at the advanced tag editor in windows media player to see what order your tracks are actually in?.as for the album art,I use mp3 tag,its an easy program to use and works everytime. I know how feel as iv come across this myself and it did my head in lol. keep us informed.....
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I'm not sure where the advanced tag editor is in windows medaia player?
If I open windows media on my laptop and change the list options to details, across the top of the window I have the following columns:-
#, Title, Length, Rating, Cont. Artist, Album, Genre, release Year, Composer, Size, Parental Rating, and if I right click on the columns I can add the column "Tag". However there is nothing in the tag column for any of the tracks???
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Are you sure you don't have Shuffle switched on as that will randomise your songs. It's the icon with two arrows crossing one another to the right of the word Music on the Music tab in Sense.
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Yep, I'm sure. Plus it's not jsut that the tracks are playing in a random order, they're listed in a random order when you go into the album.
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Yep, I'm sure. Plus it's not jsut that the tracks are playing in a random order, they're listed in a random order when you go into the album.
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The problem is definitely the ID3 tags.
I can't help you any further than that I'm afraid, as I've been using MP3 format for years now, and every piece of music that I possess is in that format. It's still the most universal format, and therefore works flawlessly on most devices.
I do know that m4a stores the tag values differently to ID3, so they may not be read succesfully. I don't know how wma stores the values, if at all!
I'd recommend getting a piece of software like Sony Sound Forge so you can do a batch conversion and make everything MP3. After that, use something like WinAmp to automatically populate the ID3 tags for you. Once you've done that, the previous suggestion I made about album art will definitely work, so just don't bother doing anything manually for that.
That's all I can suggest. It's a lengthy process, but done right it will definitely solve your current problem.
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I'm not sure where the advanced tag editor is in windows medaia player?
If I open windows media on my laptop and change the list options to details, across the top of the window I have the following columns:-
#, Title, Length, Rating, Cont. Artist, Album, Genre, release Year, Composer, Size, Parental Rating, and if I right click on the columns I can add the column "Tag". However there is nothing in the tag column for any of the tracks???
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right click on the track in wmp and you will see an option for advanced tag editor. click that and see if the track number is the same as it shows in the actual track listing of the album. if i were you mate id convert everything to mp3 format, i just find that things like album art and track listings seem to work better, but thats just me.....
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The problem is definitely the ID3 tags.
I can't help you any further than that I'm afraid, as I've been using MP3 format for years now, and every piece of music that I possess is in that format. It's still the most universal format, and therefore works flawlessly on most devices.
I do know that m4a stores the tag values differently to ID3, so they may not be read succesfully. I don't know how wma stores the values, if at all!
I'd recommend getting a piece of software like Sony Sound Forge so you can do a batch conversion and make everything MP3. After that, use something like WinAmp to automatically populate the ID3 tags for you. Once you've done that, the previous suggestion I made about album art will definitely work, so just don't bother doing anything manually for that.
That's all I can suggest. It's a lengthy process, but done right it will definitely solve your current problem.
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totally agree bud. when i got into the digital music scene what seems like years ago now, all my collection was wma and i had nothing but hassle when transfering to other devices, the same as the op is having regarding mixed up tracks and missing art. after a lenghty process of converting everything to mp3 everything worked fine. i suggest its what the op does to solve the problem........if i were the op id convert the album thats giving him issues into mp3 format and transfer it onto his phone to see if it solves it. let us know op how you get on............
You may have already tried this.
But here goes if you go to your album on the pc then right click properties then goto details on each song that will tell you what number the track is & album artist etc that is the way the hd2 lists them from the properties not just the name of the song.
This is probably the first thing you tried but thought i would tell you anyway.
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The problem is definitely the ID3 tags.
I can't help you any further than that I'm afraid, as I've been using MP3 format for years now, and every piece of music that I possess is in that format. It's still the most universal format, and therefore works flawlessly on most devices.
I do know that m4a stores the tag values differently to ID3, so they may not be read succesfully. I don't know how wma stores the values, if at all!
I'd recommend getting a piece of software like Sony Sound Forge so you can do a batch conversion and make everything MP3. After that, use something like WinAmp to automatically populate the ID3 tags for you. Once you've done that, the previous suggestion I made about album art will definitely work, so just don't bother doing anything manually for that.
That's all I can suggest. It's a lengthy process, but done right it will definitely solve your current problem.
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I'll convert everything to MP3. I did start re-ripping my CD's as MP3's at top quality (I only ripped my wma at 128kbs), but I can't for the life of me find them I'm hoping they're on my other laptop when I get home, otherwise I'll have to do it all again I'll post on here when I done this and tried it and let you know the outcome.
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You may have already tried this.
But here goes if you go to your album on the pc then right click properties then goto details on each song that will tell you what number the track is & album artist etc that is the way the hd2 lists them from the properties not just the name of the song.
This is probably the first thing you tried but thought i would tell you anyway.
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Yeah, I've tried this and they are listed in the right way. There are no tags though so hoping this may be the issue as already mentioned.
Thanks though
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I'll convert everything to MP3. I did start re-ripping my CD's as MP3's at top quality (I only ripped my wma at 128kbs), but I can't for the life of me find them I'm hoping they're on my other laptop when I get home, otherwise I'll have to do it all again I'll post on here when I done this and tried it and let you know the outcome.
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Good luck mate. It may take a while, but it's well worth doing.
Incidentally, don't forget the good advice from donwhann - try 1 album first and make sure you're happy with the results before converting everything. If it turns out to be something else then you'd be mighty angry lol
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right click on the track in wmp and you will see an option for advanced tag editor. .....
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I don't get an option for advanced tag editor if I right click in wmp, or my library. Even if I go into properties that option isn't there?
I'm running the latest version of wmp.
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I don't get an option for advanced tag editor if I right click in wmp, or my library. Even if I go into properties that option isn't there?
I'm running the latest version of wmp.
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strange.......iv just tried it myself now and its there. are you right clicking on an individual track listed in an album?, stick at it mate, if your like me its a must have to have your music all sorted and looking good lol. keep us informed......
Funny I have always had this same problem. I didn't find the tag editor either BUT I just put the TAG column in my list and if I click by the song IN THAT COLUMN it opens up a text window for adding a tag. Nothing to say that the option is there just opened the text window. Might try that.
Before I start I want to be clear that I'm talking about 'Album Artist' here, not Album or Artist alone - just to save anyone being confused!
Basically I can't see how to set the Zune player on my HD2 to list music by Album Artist instead of normal/real Artist.
What I mean for anyone who doesn't know there terms, is mostly applied for stuff like compilation and mix CDs, where you might have tracks by a dozen different artists, but sold as a 'Ministry of Sound' CD for instance.
I want the artist to show as Ministry of Sound on my Zune player, because otherwise I end up with a separate artist showing for every track on the CD.
So for 1 CD, I might end up with 12 Artists all with 1 track against them, instead of 1 Artist with 12 tracks listed. And the end result is my player shows that it has hundreds of artists on there and it takes ages to scroll through them.
Sure it's not just me that has this problem, and most MP3 players can cope with this, but I can't see how to list music by Album Artist in Zune, either on the phone or on the PC.
Hope someone can help as this ruins the music player for me.
Cheers!
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Before I start I want to be clear that I'm talking about 'Album Artist' here, not Album or Artist alone - just to save anyone being confused!
Basically I can't see how to set the Zune player on my HD2 to list music by Album Artist instead of normal/real Artist.
What I mean for anyone who doesn't know there terms, is mostly applied for stuff like compilation and mix CDs, where you might have tracks by a dozen different artists, but sold as a 'Ministry of Sound' CD for instance.
I want the artist to show as Ministry of Sound on my Zune player, because otherwise I end up with a separate artist showing for every track on the CD.
So for 1 CD, I might end up with 12 Artists all with 1 track against them, instead of 1 Artist with 12 tracks listed. And the end result is my player shows that it has hundreds of artists on there and it takes ages to scroll through them.
Sure it's not just me that has this problem, and most MP3 players can cope with this, but I can't see how to list music by Album Artist in Zune, either on the phone or on the PC.
Hope someone can help as this ruins the music player for me.
Cheers!
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I just tried syncing "cafe del mar" (which has various artists) from pc using zune to hd2.
how i have it set up is in windows explorer (windows 7)
have the following columns viewable in windows explorer #,Title,Contributing artists,Album,Album Artist
album artist set as "Various Artists" (equally you could have it list as you which but all songs the same)
album set as Album Name (obviously)
Contributing artists - each song set to correct song artist
You can batch change the Album and Album Artist in explorer simply by higlighing all the tracks, right clicking properties- then details. here you can modify as required.
worked perfectly when sync'd to phone.
back in Zune on HD2
Artists lists "Various" and not all of the contributing artists
Album lists "Cafe Del Mar:Best Of 2004" which is the name of the album
Hope i'm on the right track with what you meant.
Thanks mate - I think we're on the same wavelength yes, but slight issue I have here is that my collection is on an xp machine.
When I try to view my music in detail view, contributing artist or album artist are not available options to have as columns in the folders, so I can't view the info that's stored on these tunes to check how they're set up at a glance.
I guess the first thing therefore that I'd need to do is to download a tag editor of some sort so I can view this info as it may simply be set wrong.
I think in my case I would be setting such info in these cases to Cafe Del Mar (good taste btw) or Ministry of Sound rather than Various as otherwise I'd have too much stuff under the same 'artist', and plus I can navigate a bit easier to stuff I like if I know which it comes under. Would have other groups like Soundtracks and so on as well.
Do you know if it's at all possible to add extra columns like that in on XP? I have a feeling it must be since I'm sure in the past or on other machines I've been able to, but I could be dreaming!
My windows 7 machines are laptop and netbook and they don't have the space or the speed for handling vast amounts of music, so for now at least it needs to be an XP solution for this, and if I can't set the folder view correctly somehow, it's gonna get pretty tedious pretty quick checking everything in turn in a tag editing app.
Thanks for the reply anyhow!
haven't been on xp for several years now but i'm sure its similar in explorer.
two ways - either...
in explorer-Right click on the album folder- properties. (alternatively the folder that holders all your albums
choose Customize Tab - Then Optimize this folder for - Music
(can apply to sub-folders as well)
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if thats not an option go into the music (album) folder in explorer
Right click in the right window pane where Name/Date/Type/Size etc is and hopefully there will be a "more.." choice...
Add Contibuting Artist... and repeat for additional...
you can also uncheck items not required.
once you've done the above to the Root Music Folder you then
Goto the root Music directory and apply to the rest of the folders
maybe under file/folder options/view - "Apply to Folders"
Most of the above is guess work on very old memories of xp
Your description is absolutely correct except that in the list of available columns the options of Album Artist or contributing artist do not exist. I've already got the folders set as music template so that's not the issue.
That's why I was wondering if it's possible to add additional columns since the data is there (it shows in a tag editor as Various artists - I just checked!) but XP doesn't appear to be able to display those columns, even in the 'more' section etc.
On another note entirely - anyone know how to prevent the phone making a noise when I plug a charger into it? I've messed with the sounds options and turned off the option for 'other events/activities' or whatever it's described as.
Don't want it on silent but when I get in bed way later than I should be, and plug the phone into its cradle I don't want it announcing to the mrs what time it is by waking her up!!
Hi, I'm planning on install YukiXDA's NoDo ROM, but there's something that is intriguing me. In all videos I saw showing it, the music + video tile didn't show the artist picture, neither it showed on the background of the app itself, why is that? Thanks!
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Hi, I'm planning on install YukiXDA's NoDo ROM, but there's something that is intriguing me. In all videos I saw showing it, the music + video tile didn't show the artist picture, neither it showed on the background of the app itself, why is that? Thanks!
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On my phone the live tiles on music/videos always show the artist floating around in it.
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I had the same problem. In Zune settings, check metadata on. Also, make sure you set your setting for your LIVE account to US. In your collection, on each album, right click and "Find more info" and it should bring up the Artist or Album in the marketplace.
Sync your phone to the Zune software and make sure its "Completed". Make sure you have a data or Wi-fi connection on and when you select an artist, the background should pop up.
I'm super excited about getting my DVP in a few weeks. One thing I absolutely love about WP7 is the cool artwork that shows up in the music player and the lockscreen.
My question is - how does WP7 pick up the artwork? Does it download the images when needed, or does Zune download them and saves them on the phone? Will the images be cached?
I'm worried because mobile internet is pretty slow in this part of the globe
I have used several Zunes and I assume that WP7 since it uses the Zune interface for music it will work the same way (I'm waiting on my DVP to arrive). The artwork is downloaded using the Zune software on your PC and synced to the phone.
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I have used several Zunes and I assume that WP7 since it uses the Zune interface for music it will work the same way (I'm waiting on my DVP to arrive). The artwork is downloaded using the Zune software on your PC and synced to the phone.
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Does it also include the artist imagery that is shown on the lockscreen and everywhere else?
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Does it also include the artist imagery that is shown on the lockscreen and everywhere else?
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Lockscreen art will only be after the mango update. NoDo it will update the hub, now playing screen, and live tile only.
I wouldm assume all artwork is synced unsing the Zune Software. My ZuneHD shows all kinds of artwork associated with the artist I'm listening to and it of course has no always on data connection (only Wifi that I normally keep turned off).
This is a MAJOR problem and if they want to avoid people returning their phones within 30 days, this needs to be fixed. If someone is coming from iPhone, they will be totally lost on how to get music to their phone. In reality, it would be via XBOX Music but the entire experience is horrid and let me explain:
No Real Way To Sync - Yes, you can use Windows Media Player but it will not sync ZunePass/XBOX Music Pass songs.
Album Art - Spotty at best if you use the Windows Phone app to transfer music. If you download straight your phone, it seems to be OK
XBOX Music Cloud - What a mess! What is this info anyway? It isn't like Google Music and all of our music. It seems to be metadata from the main PC or Zune Software. I'd love to sync playlists and music between my devices but this thing is an absolute mess. Right now, I have this turned off on my devices.
Playlist Creation - Not only can't we sync our playlists from our PC (Zune Playlists) but you can't create one on the phone. And I once tried to create a playlist (streaming) so it would sync between my devices and it never showed up. Just the aforementioned mess in the music cloud shows up.
Delete Music Off Of Phone - Is it me or is there no way to remove music off the phone from the phone itself?
This is not a gripe session but legimtate broken things that need to get fixed. At the VERY least, get a fix for Windows Media Player so it can sync ZunePass songs!
Are you using windows 8? Its flawless on Windows 8
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Are you using windows 8? Its flawless on Windows 8
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I just discovered the DESKTOP version of the phone software...not perfect but MILES better...
I don't want to throw this thread off track, but I have GB upon GB of music in flac and mp4 music. Stuff not purchased on Xbox or other, by and large it's ripped from my disk collection. Does all that sync if I put it on my Win8 desktop AND play properly? Oh, I have some ogg stuff too... was deciding on what format to store my music in
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garak0410 said:
I just discovered the DESKTOP version of the phone software...not perfect but MILES better...
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What desktop version? Is this the full Zune replacement available online?
charlatan01 said:
I don't want to throw this thread off track, but I have GB upon GB of music in flac and mp4 music. Stuff not purchased on Xbox or other, by and large it's ripped from my disk collection. Does all that sync if I put it on my Win8 desktop AND play properly? Oh, I have some ogg stuff too... was deciding on what format to store my music in
Thanks!
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You can add mp3 files from any location and they will play properly. You can also search for he album art but I do agree that the new metro software is nothing on Zune. Zune was the best media software ever!
garak0410 said:
I just discovered the DESKTOP version of the phone software...not perfect but MILES better...
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Can you explain this a bit please? Are you referring to Windows 8, or Windows Phone 8?
Thanks!
There is also a glitch. You cannot download music to your phone when it is already in your "Cloud collection". So I'm stuck with streaming everything for now....
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Can you explain this a bit please? Are you referring to Windows 8, or Windows Phone 8?
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He means this...http://www.windowsphone.com/en-GH/how-to/wp8/windows-phone-app-for-desktop
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There is also a glitch. You cannot download music to your phone when it is already in your "Cloud collection". So I'm stuck with streaming everything for now....
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you can download cloud music, longpress on it and select download, also when you are in a song list, there is the first option for multiselect at the bottom, you can then check whatever you want and download it all at once.
garak0410 said:
This is a MAJOR problem and if they want to avoid people returning their phones within 30 days, this needs to be fixed. If someone is coming from iPhone, they will be totally lost on how to get music to their phone. In reality, it would be via XBOX Music but the entire experience is horrid and let me explain:
No Real Way To Sync - Yes, you can use Windows Media Player but it will not sync ZunePass/XBOX Music Pass songs.
Album Art - Spotty at best if you use the Windows Phone app to transfer music. If you download straight your phone, it seems to be OK
XBOX Music Cloud - What a mess! What is this info anyway? It isn't like Google Music and all of our music. It seems to be metadata from the main PC or Zune Software. I'd love to sync playlists and music between my devices but this thing is an absolute mess. Right now, I have this turned off on my devices.
Playlist Creation - Not only can't we sync our playlists from our PC (Zune Playlists) but you can't create one on the phone. And I once tried to create a playlist (streaming) so it would sync between my devices and it never showed up. Just the aforementioned mess in the music cloud shows up.
Delete Music Off Of Phone - Is it me or is there no way to remove music off the phone from the phone itself?
This is not a gripe session but legimtate broken things that need to get fixed. At the VERY least, get a fix for Windows Media Player so it can sync ZunePass songs!
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to delete music off the phone longpress the song (or use the multiselect button and check songs, keep in mind, the multiselect icon only shows up in song view) and then choose delete or the trash can.
i agree the software needs to improve a lot, i'm quite surprised that it was released in a state that isn't even at parity with the zune software. it does seem like they are trying to push people away from using sync software and more into using cloud services to do it all though, but they need to work on UX a bit more before that is going to be simple for new users.
Since I have two laptops and a surface with the same music. Each day i am seeing music show up on phone. Since I don't have either one up for very long I think it will take awhile. I may just have to turn off standby this weekend and let it sync.
I got the lumia 920, and I love it. However, the music sync is SO bad I am considering bringing it back and using my lumia 900 agian. Its absolutely awful. There is no way to rate music, no auto playlists, and about 97% of the time I try to sync music using the godawful windows phone desktop application it hangs trying to remove music. The only way to keep the process going properly is keeping my phone screen awake, awesome.
I am a long time zune user, which I beleive to be the best music device and desktop software made, and I cannot believe that instead of just changing the name of the zune software they ditched it altogether, and all functionality with it.
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I got the lumia 920, and I love it. However, the music sync is SO bad I am considering bringing it back and using my lumia 900 agian. Its absolutely awful. There is no way to rate music, no auto playlists, and about 97% of the time I try to sync music using the godawful windows phone desktop application it hangs trying to remove music. The only way to keep the process going properly is keeping my phone screen awake, awesome.
I am a long time zune user, which I beleive to be the best music device and desktop software made, and I cannot believe that instead of just changing the name of the zune software they ditched it altogether, and all functionality with it.
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cannot agree more with you. Let's hope they change it for the better.
The Windows Phone 8 desktop app does NOT work at all on my HP laptop running Windows 7 x64. Every time I plug my phone in, an error message pops up on my laptop screen saying, "Windows Phone has stopped working". It gives me the option to, "Check online for a solution and close the program" - that does NOTHING! If I click on that, it seems to be searching for a bit, then just goes away by itself, never offering me a solution to the problem.
The only way I can put music on my phone is to drag-and-drop through Windows Explorer, and THAT'S a disaster, too! Let's say I have 2 CD's/albums from The Airborne Toxic Event; 1 shows up on the phone listed (under Artists) as "The Airborne Toxic Event". The other shows up as "Airborne Toxic Event, The", EVEN THOUGH THE ID TAG INFO IS ALL CORRECT!! I'd say 80% of the artists I added to my phone last night (about 50 total) refuse to download any artist background image; the background is just gray. Also, even though I added album art for EACH album as I put them on the phone, some refuse to display album art. Others show it O.K. One track, that is playing fine tonight, the phone told me last night, "Windows Phone cannot play this file type (the file is in WMA format)!!!!
This is a COMPLETE DISASTER, and I'm probably taking my Lumia 920 back to AT&T this weekend for a refund.
Oh, yeah, my previous phone, which I still have, is a Samsung Galaxy S III Android phone, and NONE of the music playing software on that phone had any problem playing the EXACT SAME music files I tranferred to my WP8 handset, and My Samsung Focus & Focus S WP7.5 hansets also had NO problem with these same music files!
Rename the Zune software and bring it back so we can use it with WP8 handsets, PLEASE!!!
What an EPIC fail!!!
Dennis
The windows phone application for windows works the first time it syncs, then it hangs on every subsequent sync unless I remove all the music from the device and start over. It hangs while trying to delete music. Awful.
loudog3114 said:
The windows phone application for windows works the first time it syncs, then it hangs on every subsequent sync unless I remove all the music from the device and start over. It hangs while trying to delete music. Awful.
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Use Windows Media Player. It has been working flawless for me, and until MS beef up there current solution for WP8 users, I will not be using it.
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Use Windows Media Player. It has been working flawless for me, and until MS beef up there current solution for WP8 users, I will not be using it.
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Windows Media Player may work fine for getting music on the phone (drag-and-drop works just as well, too), but it's what the Xbox music service does to the songs AFTER they're on the phone that causes the bigger problems, at least for me. It removes metadata (tag info) and replaces it with what it thinks is correct, causing some of my albums/CD's to be split into two separate albums/CD's. For example, I put (4) tracks from Beyonce's "B'day [Deluxe Edition] [Disc 1]" on my phone. Xbox music service split (2) of those tracks into a separate CD titled "B'day [Deluxe Edition] Disc 1", that shows NO album art! It did the same to "Yourself or Someone Like You", by Mathchbox Twenty - it split (1) track off into a separate "Yourself or Someone Like You" CD by Matchbox 20 (it changed the artist from Matchbox Twenty to Matchbox 20 for just this one track)! I have a CD by Ned's Atomic Dustbin for the single of "Not Sleeping Around"; I verify that, after I copy it over to the phone, it is displaying album art - within 15 minutes, the album art disappears! I've tried setting the music files to "read-only" before copying, but that somehow gets changed when being copied over to the phone, and the "read-only" option, when viewing the file properties on the phone, is grayed out.
I also frequently get an error message when trying to play songs on the phone that says, "Sorry, we can't play this type of file on your phone", even though the file is either in .mp3 or .wma format & it STARTS PLAYING BY ITSELF!!
WTF?!! Why did Microsoft scew this up SO bad?!! WP7/7.5 handled all this flawlessly! I'm seriously considering returning my Nokia Lumia 920 to AT&T over this specific issue!
Dennis
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Use Windows Media Player. It has been working flawless for me, and until MS beef up there current solution for WP8 users, I will not be using it.
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I can't get WMP11 recognize my 920 as a device to sync.
But the Windows Phone Software works fine on Windows 7.
I think i am going up to Windows 8 Pro right after i got my SSD. Because the SDK doesn't work on Windows 7 either.
BTW: yep, sync music on Windows 7 for the WP8 is a little bit troublesome. There are far more less convenient than the Zune Software.
I dont know how it works on Windows 8 yet.
I too am amazed at how bad the software for PC actually is, I have no need for cloud storage so that isn't an issue but album art has been replaced on most songs by Xbox music and the desktop client which I am sure is a Beta is next to useless, I am using Win7x64 so maybe an upgrade to win8 will help?
I managed to finally drag & drop my music to the device which did do the trick, And am kind of happy that option was available, I preferred the Zune client to be honest for stability and ease of use and hope they can soon sort things out so they are a bit more stable.,
I guess the lesson to be learnt here is not to rush out and buy on first release, Looking back on WP7 when you compare the first release to Mango that should have been warning enough, No doubt there are nerds somewhere in MS working their asses off to fix this :laugh: Yeah right.......
AndyFZ1S said:
album art has been replaced on most songs by Xbox music and the desktop client which I am sure is a Beta is next to useless
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This.
...and there's no way to edit the metadata manually like in the Zune software. Really pissing me off.