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Hello everyone!
It's my first post here, I'll try to make this simple and understandable.
I've got an HTC Vogue (obviously), unlocked it last week, installed NFSFAN's ROM, everything is fine. The phone is currently out of plan, which means my contract ended. I want to change carrier (currently on Bell's CDMA), but I don't know where to start. Basically, I want to go with Fido. I read alot about PRL and those ESN, CDMA Tools, etc... Just want some help and small how-to on changing the carrier from Bell to Fido. I have another phone which is with Fido, (LG Neon). Can I get the carrier informations from this phone with some software/hardware or just common sense method (like calling them). At the store, they told me they couldn't get my phone on their network because it was with Bell, but I know there's a way of doing it.. There's a way for everything, and this must be easy.
I qualify myself as moderately advanced in computer skills, so don't be shy to share even the most complicated methods of doing it!
Bump. No one did this before till the Touch Vogue was released?...
I sent you a pm about this a few days ago.
Bell=CDMA
Fido=GSM
Can't switch.
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WnG88 said:
Bell=CDMA
Fido=GSM
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Somewhat true up until last year. New phones that use SIM cards for Bell/Telus HSDPA network are now interchangeable with Rogers via some handiwork.
But yeah, the Touch is, well, a little bit older no SIM cards for her.
You should be able to switch to another CDMA network though, like Sprint (in the US) or Telus.
edgevision said:
Somewhat true up until last year. New phones that use SIM cards for Bell/Telus HSDPA network are now interchangeable with Rogers via some handiwork.
But yeah, the Touch is, well, a little bit older no SIM cards for her.
You should be able to switch to another CDMA network though, like Sprint (in the US) or Telus.
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But HOW?
Hey all I'm looking for some help on a quick matter. I just sol my HD2 to someone in Canada. Hes using Rogers telecom but primarily just wants to use it as a Android phone on that network. I flashed it to a Energy Rom and the 2.12 radio. Will I need to do anything else on my end to make sure it works when he opens the box? Any creative suggestions are appreciated and yes I did do a search didn't find out anything outside of 40 pages of what I am not trying to figure out.
Is it SIM unlocked? It will not work on Rogers, or any other network for that matter if it hasn't been SIM unlocked. Other then that, he will need to setup the APN settings that Rogers uses, but all in all it should work.
Yup
I installed Cotulla HSPL2 to unlock it. I believe that should be sufficient its just a matter of him putting in the correct APN numbers now I think?
wrong, hspl does not unlock the network.
you need to buy a code online or ask t mo if you have a contract.
also, does your buyer know there will be no 3g?
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Me under contract? Probably, but my account has me listed on a different phone the HD2 isn't on there anymore.
Now you say wrong but no details on how to correct the problem. Can you be a little more forthcoming on where I should go fix this.
Nevermind I contacted TMO and they are unrooting the phone for free and will send me the code in the few days.
*shiver* unrooting...anyways, yeah you have to SIM unlock it, and HardSPL most definately doesn't do that. And also, the 3G bands that Rogers uses are different from that of T-Mobile, so he will not get 3G data, only EDGE and GPRS.
Thats what he wanted I figured he did the research about it working on Rogers.
BTW why shiver about unrooting? It seems like it opens it up to more stuff?
Because the HD2 isn't "rooted" in the first place. Both Android and the iPhone have dumbed down the masses so that jailbreak and root are commonplace terms that people apply to EVERYTHING in the smartphone sector, and it aggravates me.
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jailbreak and root are commonplace terms that people apply to EVERYTHING in the smartphone sector, and it aggravates me.
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hehe with that and the bastardisation of the word "fail",society is collapsing as we watch!
So I've done a bunch of researching and I want the pros opinions.can I clone my evo info(msid amd the such) to my eris and have it run? itd be a great back up phone! As usual any help or knowledge is much appreciated!
I believe Sprint is GSM and Verizon is CDMA so their networks aren't compatible so you wont be able to use the eris on Sprints network.
Oh, i could have sworn sprint was GSM, guess I should make sure of these things before I go posting them.
I don't want to sound rude but have knowledge of the subject before replying please. Sprint and verizon are cdma technologies. Att and tmobile are gsm. Hence the sim card....thankyou all the same dude....
[edit]: I saw your other post that answered my question (why would you want to when you could get an EVO or better?).
You probably can; though, it will probably require some serious effort on your part.
xdabens said:
I believe Sprint is GSM and Verizon is CDMA so their networks aren't compatible so you wont be able to use the eris on Sprints network.
Oh, i could have sworn sprint was GSM, guess I should make sure of these things before I go posting them.
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sprint is cdma atleast i believe the hero is
xdabens said:
I believe Sprint is GSM and Verizon is CDMA so their networks aren't compatible so you wont be able to use the eris on Sprints network.
where do u think some of our roms come from
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Smart a$$. Lol. Jk bro. Hey Tazz I wanted to know if you will be working on cyanogenmod 7 whenever it comes out?
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Cloning phones is illegal in most places.
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Stonent said:
Cloning phones is illegal in most places.
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Why is it illegal? I ask this because I personally have flashed roms from all these great devs and sometimes I get one that says Sprint even though I'm with Verizon.
xdabens said:
I believe Sprint is GSM and Verizon is CDMA so their networks aren't compatible so you wont be able to use the eris on Sprints network.
Oh, i could have sworn sprint was GSM, guess I should make sure of these things before I go posting them.
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No they are both CDMA!! You need to get your facts straight.
Stonent said:
Cloning phones is illegal in most places.
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The answer is, from beginning to end, changing carriers via changing ESN's is illegal in most places, and, as a result, has no real place on this forum.
I don't know if there's a section around that relates to changing ESN's for other purposes, but this kind of activity is not condoned, supported, or even allowed by posting rules to be posted here.
The Eris, technically, has all of the hardware and software necessary to run on Sprint, Cricket, and most other CDMA networks. Each network keeps close track of what Serial numbers it will allow to operate on their network. So to answer your question, yes it is possible, but no it is not legal, and the details of the procedure (which I have no idea) are not going to be easily found here, and this thread will probably be closed, bearing the introduction of such a discussion.
I'm surprised how many useless threads people start these days.
Its amazing to me that something like this would be illegal. Where has our freedom gone?
flashing to a different carrier isn't illegal. Only ESN changing is. Flashing to a different carrier is quite possible. However, its easiest when there are identical phones on two different carriers, that way you can just flash the firmware from one to another. Also, the provider has to be willing to accept it. Verizon for the most part will accept phones that aren't produced by them, same for MetroPCS and Cricket. Sprint, and Cellular South will not. I believe I covered the major CDMA carriers.
For those that are confused. Flashing to a different providers firmware on an identical phone does not change the ESN. It just provides the new providers network information and roaming list. Case in point. I used to own a Moto Q9C, I flashed it between Cricket, Verizon, and Alltel on a monthly basis, depending on where I was going and who had the best coverage plan. ESN was never changed. Since those providers openly allow outside devices.
I'm on my eris now, I would like to take it to cellular south and I know a tech that would activate it, however, I'm not smart enough to change all the correct settings to get it to operate on their towers (would be very simple if THEY sold an eris, I could just grab eris firmware from one of their devices.)
DarthMowzy said:
Its amazing to me that something like this would be illegal. Where has our freedom gone?
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We live in America. We are not free. We are slaves to the federal government and to the tax code. My $.02
viogrep said:
flashing to a different carrier isn't illegal. Only ESN changing is. Flashing to a different carrier is quite possible. However, its easiest when there are identical phones on two different carriers, that way you can just flash the firmware from one to another. Also, the provider has to be willing to accept it. Verizon for the most part will accept phones that aren't produced by them, same for MetroPCS and Cricket. Sprint, and Cellular South will not. I believe I covered the major CDMA carriers.
For those that are confused. Flashing to a different providers firmware on an identical phone does not change the ESN. It just provides the new providers network information and roaming list. Case in point. I used to own a Moto Q9C, I flashed it between Cricket, Verizon, and Alltel on a monthly basis, depending on where I was going and who had the best coverage plan. ESN was never changed. Since those providers openly allow outside devices.
I'm on my eris now, I would like to take it to cellular south and I know a tech that would activate it, however, I'm not smart enough to change all the correct settings to get it to operate on their towers (would be very simple if THEY sold an eris, I could just grab eris firmware from one of their devices.)
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Thanks, at least someone on this thread knows what they're talking about.
Changing ESNs is illegal because there's pretty much no reason to do it except to clone other people's phones (essentially stealing their accounts).
Changing ESNs would be like rewriting the magnetic strip on your credit card with someone elses.
Your problem is weather or not Sprint will let you register the ESN on their network. The phone is compatible. Verizon is keeping track of their ESNs. If a phone isn't one of their's they won't let it on thier network. I don't know about Sprit, but it's problable the same. So you are probably out of luck.
FYI, the diffence in a Rom displaying Verizon or Sprint it just in a text file. I has nothing to do with the running code. Many of the Eris 2.2 ROMs are a port from the Srint Hero. Someone just didn't update the file.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730289&highlight=cricket
This may help if you have not seen it, I flashed my eris to MetroPCS with this.
Thanks to viogrep for bringing some sanity to this thread.
If you want to explore a little, and you have the 1.49.2000 S-OFF bootloader on your phone, see
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9878143&postcount=8
You can have your bootloader dump your "mfg" partition to your SD card for inspection with a hex editor.
I'm no carrier-flashing expert, but I think that this "mfg" partition is pivotal in storing the carrier and PRL settings.
bftb0
PS The above mentioned thread also gives instructions for custom-booting Amon_RA so that you have privilege and access to any of the other "hidden" partitions on the phone.
After using some CDMA crack tools, I get it running on ChinaTelecom network now.
The 3G data link works very well.
I think it can be used on other CDMA network provider also, such as sprint.
I was really hoping that Sprint was going to announce the XOOM at CITA
Hopefully Sprint users won't have to rely on hacks like this
Nevertheless, good work
hawk2k8 said:
After using some CDMA crack tools, I get it running on ChinaTelecom network now.
The 3G data link works very well.
I think it can be used on other CDMA network provider also, such as sprint.
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FAQ please..
Lordao
Does XDA allow posting the detail about cdma hack?
hawk2k8 said:
Does XDA allow posting the detail about cdma hack?
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Why not? And if so, you'll be probably be notified by moderator in a kind way
PS: by the way, your 3g provider doesn't require a sim card or you've somehow managed to use built-in sim card slot?
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Why not? And if so, you'll be probably be notified by moderator in a kind way
PS: by the way, your 3g provider doesn't require a sim card or you've somehow managed to use built-in sim card slot?
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Cdma doesn't use sim cards...
Elysian893 said:
Cdma doesn't use sim cards...
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Never used cdma, thanks for pointing that out
hawk2k8 said:
After using some CDMA crack tools, I get it running on ChinaTelecom network now.
The 3G data link works very well.
I think it can be used on other CDMA network provider also, such as sprint.
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Mind posting what you did to achieve this? I'd love to use my xoom on another carrier.
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Does XDA allow posting the detail about cdma hack?
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Provided you're not doing something such as changing the IMEI, please feel free to discuss details of this hack.
If you have any questions as to whether it's allowed, feel free to PM me the instructions before posting and I'll let you know.
great news!!!!
I am very happy to hear this. I had to leave the US and couldn't return my xoom before than. I am now in india, you think there is any chance of getting this hack to work on one the indian cdma networks?
Please keep this thread up and running alive and well!!!
XOOM 3G used under chinatelecom?
HEY, Post the pack please,i am going to have one set, and i need to make it used in china, so would u help me ?
How can you use this on sprint for instance unless you do an imei hack which is illegal. The device has to be activated on a carrier that does data only like sprint but the device's imei will have to be changed for that to work. I'm not sure how overseas works but getting this working on sprint isn't happening.
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How can you use this on sprint for instance unless you do an imei hack which is illegal. The device has to be activated on a carrier that does data only like sprint but the device's imei will have to be changed for that to work. I'm not sure how overseas works but getting this working on sprint isn't happening.
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not necessarily.. imei is just an identifier or ID for the phone.. if your imei isn't blacklisted, you can use it on any network.. doesn't matter if it's locked to a certain provider.. and you don't need to hack the imei to make your phone work with another network.. you just need an unlock code, unlocked phone or re-program the phone to make it work on another network.. phone (tablet)unlocking and imei hacking are two different things.. you only hack the imei if you wanna clone another phone or if the imei is blacklisted.. now those are illegal..
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not necessarily.. imei is just an identifier or ID for the phone.. if your imei isn't blacklisted, you can use it on any network.. doesn't matter if it's locked to a certain provider.. and you don't need to hack the imei to make your phone work with another network.. you just need an unlock code, unlocked phone or re-program the phone to make it work on another network.. phone (tablet)unlocking and imei hacking are two different things.. you only hack the imei if you wanna clone another phone or if the imei is blacklisted.. now those are illegal..
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True but the op is confusing sprint with metro pcs. Metro will unlock an activate any cdma phone on its network so technically it could work that way but sprint doesn't offer those services so the op's methods will not work on sprint unless you clone a sprint imei
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Would you share with us the method and software that you used?.
Thank you.
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Yes, please share your technique and we will all be in debt to your kindness.
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True but the op is confusing sprint with metro pcs. Metro will unlock an activate any cdma phone on its network so technically it could work that way but sprint doesn't offer those services so the op's methods will not work on sprint unless you clone a sprint imei
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I don't know about Sprint but I took another CDMA provider's phone and altered it using the moto hack tools long ago (KRZR) and put it on Verizon. Never had to change the ESN/IMEI. Just modified the settings in the tool so it looked for Verizon's network, logged into My Verizon and put the ESN from behind the battery in the box... whalla, non-Verizon phone on their network.
OK, I wrote a guide about EvDO hacking at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12542242#post12542242
Xoom in India on Tata network
@ IndivisibleP - have you figured out how to MOD the Xoom to get it to work on TATA or Relaince Network in India.
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@ IndivisibleP - have you figured out how to MOD the Xoom to get it to work on TATA or Relaince Network in India.
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Actually when I looked at the steps for doing this I realised it is so so far beyond my understanding level that I wouldnt even know where to start. So unfortunately I havent even attempted this. I would love to get this working but I have pretty much given up on the idea unless I find someone who knows how to do this in person....
Hey everyone, I could really use some help. (Sorry if this is in the wrong place)
I'm in the USA, on Verizon. I got a note FE the other day (SM-N935L) and went to put in the sim card but it keeps telling me the mobile networks are currently blocked and to contact customer service but I can't do that because I can't currently make calls or have data. Any help would be appreciated. If you need more info to possibly help, just let me know.
Thank you
This device doesn't work for Verizon or sprint it's GSM only.
scrumptyous said:
This device doesn't work for Verizon or sprint it's GSM only.
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Well... darn it... Do any of the models? And why doesn't it work? (Just asking so I can learn)
Jedibkj said:
Well... darn it... Do any of the models? And why doesn't it work? (Just asking so I can learn)
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Probably not,AT&T & T-Mobile are your best bets for using international phones on their networks & associated MVNOs.
Not trying to sound like a jerk,but,Google is your friend on the subject.
Here's a fairly recent write up giving a Readers Digest summary:
https://www.whistleout.com/CellPhon...y-verizon-sprint-phone-on-a-different-network
Also,try these sites for specific device compatibility:
https://www.frequencycheck.com/
https://willmyphonework.net/
@Jedibkj :
Here's another older article attempting to clear the air on the subject of Verizon & phones from elsewhere/not branded/specific to their network:
https://www.cnet.com/news/bringing-your-own-smartphone-to-verizon-what-do-i-need-to-worry-about/
Also,here's Verizon's BYOD Compatibility page:
https://www.verizonwireless.com/bring-your-own-device/
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Well... darn it... Do any of the models? And why doesn't it work? (Just asking so I can learn)
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Yeah as stated above google helps you out tons when you are in the market for a new device. I never looked for international devices or non-carrier branded phones while I was with Verizon and Sprint they are CDMA and most unlocked devices are GSM. For me I just knew for most functions to work on my phone they had to have the sprint or verizon logo on them some where.
I have not looked back since I left both of the above companies because I feel I have so many more options now. There are others who have made the same mistake and I have seen their listings on ebay. There are lots of people looking for this device so at least you can get your money back by selling it if you need to. (swappa is a good option for selling as well)
Thank you for all the info! I thought it was CDMA compatible but I guess I was wrong.. :/ I need to check more before buying! Live and learn I guess... I'll probably end up reselling it.
Thank you for all the help!
My K model gets full LTE signal and bars on Cricket. I'm in Phoenix.