Galaxy Note colour rendering issue: started working on it. - Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General

Hi dear Galaxy Note owners.
As many of you I'm not quite satisfied by Galaxy Note screen.
Most of the feedback reveal sub-par results, despite we all know the potential here is huge (to say the least).
References:
- [Q] Galaxy Note Screen Issues!!!
- [Q] Video on Note
Worst offender being shadows rendering: my diagnostic: what's supposed to be dark is not so dark.. and then boom its black (ie black clipping)
As a result color look dull, some UI elements show not quite as they're supposed to, and videos exhibit awful banding, blocking and ringing artifacts.
That's why I can announce here I started working on Galaxy Note screen color.
Don't expect immediate results as it's a complex topic and I'm working on other projects where users expect updates (like Voodoo LOUDER), but I wanted to give keep you updated.

Next step:
Measurements with a colorimeter, at several brightness levels.

And after that.. there will be fixes and solutions.
− be patient.

wow tahts amazing news.

That's great news, indeed, Note deserves a little more care with that beautiful screen . Waiting patiently for the first results.

just a small token of appreciation to start with ...
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Friendly Greetz ..
tids2k

This is the most amazing news right after CM9...
Really happy to see my beloved note becoming more popular among devs now. So far was a little jealous of GSII owners... Not any more.
Thanks a lot you guys!

Great news!
What a team - Galaxy Note + Supercurio

supercurio said:
Hi dear Galaxy Note owners.
As many of you I'm not quite satisfied by Galaxy Note screen.
Most of the feedback reveal sub-par results, despite we all know the potential here is huge (to say the least).
References:
- [Q] Galaxy Note Screen Issues!!!
- [Q] Video on Note
Worst offender being shadows rendering: my diagnostic: what's supposed to be dark is not so dark.. and then boom its black (ie black clipping)
As a result color look dull, some UI elements show not quite as they're supposed to, and videos exhibit awful banding, blocking and ringing artifacts.
That's why I can announce here I started working on Galaxy Note screen color.
Don't expect immediate results as it's a complex topic and I'm working on other projects where users expect updates (like Voodoo LOUDER), but I wanted to give keep you updated.
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Great news!
People say that I was nitpicking about the black levels and rendering issues on the G-Note.. Only show that their expectation is below average
Cant wait for your updates!
Lets see how the fanboys react to the words highlighted, calling all the majority vs minority defenders

EarlZ said:
Great news!
People say that I was nitpicking about the black levels and rendering issues on the G-Note.. Only show that their expectation is below average
Cant wait for your updates!
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Oh sure.
Also, people disagreement is expected as one screen can vastly differ from another.
Its a source of endless fights in forums but also make fix/improvement attempts a lot more difficult.

supercurio said:
Oh sure.
Also, people disagreement is expected as one screen can vastly differ from another.
Its a source of endless fights in forums but also make fix/improvement attempts a lot more difficult.
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Exactly, the sad part is that they are just very dismissive about the issue and outright rude just because they got a 'perfect' screen or their standards are low.
Im getting my screen replaced this sunday because the lines are getting more visible and the greenish tint at the bottom is starting to creep upto half of the screen.

supercurio said:
Hi dear Galaxy Note owners.
As many of you I'm not quite satisfied by Galaxy Note screen.
Most of the feedback reveal sub-par results, despite we all know the potential here is huge (to say the least).
References:
- [Q] Galaxy Note Screen Issues!!!
- [Q] Video on Note
Worst offender being shadows rendering: my diagnostic: what's supposed to be dark is not so dark.. and then boom its black (ie black clipping)
As a result color look dull, some UI elements show not quite as they're supposed to, and videos exhibit awful banding, blocking and ringing artifacts.
That's why I can announce here I started working on Galaxy Note screen color.
Don't expect immediate results as it's a complex topic and I'm working on other projects where users expect updates (like Voodoo LOUDER), but I wanted to give keep you updated.
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supercurio said:
Next step:
Measurements with a colorimeter, at several brightness levels.
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supercurio said:
And after that.. there will be fixes and solutions.
− be patient.
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THANK YOU!!!

Nice to see that the Note is getting more and more cred.
Here in sweden, one of the major cell networks had massive pressure for this device and couldnt deliver enough phones for the ppl that wanted it. Their struggling to get more...
Feels like the interest for a size between 4,1" and 7" is massive!
Thanks Supercurio for your dedication and work!

Great new from great dev!!

I already use your voodoo screen tuning app on my galaxy tab and s2. I was hoping to use it on my note.

Thanks a lot sir!
This is simply great....
Any chances for showing some love for audio? I know it is just wishful thinking... But still...
Tapashocked via my gt-I9003 with a random keyboard of my choice !

Lordrdx666 said:
Thanks a lot sir!
This is simply great....
Any chances for showing some love for audio? I know it is just wishful thinking... But still...
Tapashocked via my gt-I9003 with a random keyboard of my choice !
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Check Voodoo LOUDER in the market maybe...

Latoc said:
Check Voodoo LOUDER in the market maybe...
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I bought it even if I didnt need it XD

supercurio said:
Hi dear Galaxy Note owners.
Worst offender being shadows rendering: my diagnostic: what's supposed to be dark is not so dark.. and then boom its black (ie black clipping)
As a result color look dull, some UI elements show not quite as they're supposed to, and videos exhibit awful banding, blocking and ringing artifacts.
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Well I would be careful to not crush the darks too much. You then lose detail in shadows in dark photos. On the Infuse they do this and shadow detail is completely lost, even though they ramp smoother. This is wrong too.
It definetly does black clipping, I noticed it in that pic I made, after 4 it just goes black. It should obviously ramp smoothly to the last color which is black 0,0,0. This shows up in videos as colors are gone after a certain amount making compression artifacts really stand out instread of blending.
I don't know what the hell Samsung was thinking.
Good to see you are looking at it though, thanks.

Thanks, Supercurio, for your attention on these details!
One suggestion: incorporate some sort of "screen filter" into your app, so that Note owners can enjoy much greater brightness adjustments all from one Supercurio app!
Right now the screen is too bright to read at night...

Related

My Galaxy S Review

Hi guys, In just finished my Galaxy S review and would appreciate any constructive feedback
http://hemorrdroids.net/?p=528
It might also be useful for anyone trying to decide on buying one.
Thanks.
A comparison between the SGS and the Nexus with GPS test would be usefull.
Good, well writen review. I noticed the same thing, when I handed my phone to others, they always comment on how light it is. After unlocking, they are dazzled by the screen quality. The majority of my officemates use smartphones and know what OS, specs of their phones; Blackberry, Android, Symbian (Nokia) and iPhones and they comment on how nice the Galaxy S is. I have disabled TouchWiz for obvious reasons.
nice review, thx!
i will receive mine tomorrow. i feel like a little child on the day before christmas
I disagree with your interpretation of the camera test. The galaxy shots are much better. They show much better dynamic range. Look how the n1 clips the sky all over the place. Its almost hard to look at. The shadows are also very very dark and lack very much detail. Then look at the galaxy shot. The sky is clipped, but much less so. There is still detail in the clouds. In the shadows, there is also far more detail than in the nexus. The second photographs may not be as extreme but they certainly show the galaxy dealing much better with the high dinamic range situation. I would say the galaxy completely trounces the n1 in those two test shots.
edit: I think you are confusing global contrast with detail.
GPs test please
PS. I really enjoyed your review. It seems like a review from a real person not someone paid to do it or etc. man that phone takes great vids!
Also, canyon play with the camera setting & retry the pic test?
@snowboard
What's screen clipping: is it like tearing on monitors?
I spy a BBQ ! Om nom nom !
Seriously, nice review. Just ordered two SGS's
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GPs test please
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Yeah, I realised about 10 minutes after I posted it that I should have included a GPS test. I'll try and get one added this afternoon. I'll post when I do.
Thanks for the complements. Help out by spreading the word
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I did a Streak review a couple of weeks back. Are there any other devices out there dying for a review? (UK devices of course )
ither side of this is a menu and back button, but no search. I can’t say I’ve missed search, you just go in through menu.
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If you really miss the search button, try pushing the menu button a little longer..
Also, it's a bit strange you didn't even try touchwiz.. I tried launcher pro, but the look and feel of touchwiz is much more consistent with the rest of the native apps. The speed of touchwiz (specially after nolag fix) is very good, no difference with launcher pro.
What i also like is the samsung market where you get, otherwise paid, apps for free. Like Vlingo Voice Command, Asphalt 5 and some other stuff..
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Also, it's a bit strange you didn't even try touchwiz.. I tried launcher pro, but the look and feel of touchwiz is much more consistent with the rest of the native apps. The speed of touchwiz (specially after nolag fix) is very good, no difference with launcher pro.
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Yeah, when I got it I was thinking more as a user and not a reviewer. I should have tried TouchWiz for a day to be able to give my own opinion on it, then switch to a different launcher so I can compare the two.
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What i also like is the samsung market where you get, otherwise paid, apps for free. Like Vlingo Voice Command, Asphalt 5 and some other stuff..
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Sounds cool, I didn't realise that tbh.
The GPS test is uploading to YouTube as I type, but it says it will be 99 minutes processing! Subscribe to the Hemorrdroids channel, or check back on the review in a couple of hours.
**EDIT** Okay, GPS test is added in
k2snowboards88 said:
I disagree with your interpretation of the camera test. The galaxy shots are much better. They show much better dynamic range. Look how the n1 clips the sky all over the place. Its almost hard to look at. The shadows are also very very dark and lack very much detail. Then look at the galaxy shot. The sky is clipped, but much less so. There is still detail in the clouds. In the shadows, there is also far more detail than in the nexus. The second photographs may not be as extreme but they certainly show the galaxy dealing much better with the high dinamic range situation. I would say the galaxy completely trounces the n1 in those two test shots.
edit: I think you are confusing global contrast with detail.
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Imo the nexus one looks better. So does alot of others...
Someone else suggested maybe I had a finger smudge on the lens when I took the SGS picture.
Have you looked at the folder full of pictures and videos? The link is nearer the end of the camera bit.
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Someone else suggested maybe I had a finger smudge on the lens when I took the SGS picture.
Have you looked at the folder full of pictures and videos? The link is nearer the end of the camera bit.
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Are those all the sgs? Or mixed with nexus? They look pretty good..
You need to fix lous in this sentence. Nice review.
Although I don’t think it’s lous enough for me to take a shower and listen to it still, if I’m sat at my computer, I could have the SGS on the desk next to me a clearly hear the podcast player.
Thank you. Done
gd review, am looking to get one of these to replace desire, you guys think i should do it?
Great edits! i wish there was a review done exactly like this for the captivate
Is the Captivate what we would call the Samsung Wave over here in the UK?
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Imo the nexus one looks better. So does alot of others...
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The white balance of the n1 is a little cool and the white balance of the sgs is a little warm. The white balance is a personal preference. The n1 has a higher contrast curve and really poor dynamic range. The increased contrast is pribably what makes you like the photo more. The problem comes why you want detail in light and dark places. You can't do it. You can't reduce contrast in software in any helpful kind of way. The sgs has a rather flat contrast curve which can be increased using software or even another camera program to suit your tastes. It also will work in more diverse situations.
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Is the Captivate what we would call the Samsung Wave over here in the UK?
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No, The Captivate is AT&T's version the the Galaxy. The Samsung Wave is a different phone.

Epic Screen diff. than Nexus S

I used to have an Epic. I always suspected that screen on the epic was a little diff. than the Nexus S. I hated the Epic and I like the Samsung Nexus S alot more! But yesterday, my coworker has an Epic and downloaded the same wallpaper as I have. Then we compared phones with the same wall paper and brightness. His screen had richer contrast, was brighter without being washed out, and seem to have better detail. I don't understand why this is...but I wanted to throw this out here.
Have you tried any other colour settings?
Take a look here.
I've never seen the nexus s screen. Even though I think the epic screen is beautiful eye candy, it exaggerates how things look in real life. I don't know for a fact but I would guess that color, tint, and saturation have been cranked and tweaked so as to make people ooh and ahh when they look at it. A picture could easily be manipulated to make the colors really stand out. Maybe if you were tripping on LSD, the colors you see might look like the screen on the epic but that's not how things actually look like.
I was wondering a similar question just before I popped into the forum. You being a previous epic owner, what similarities, differences, and other observations are you finding out with the nexus? I'm very interested in your opinions because I used to have an epic and wonder how the experience might be when comparing the two phones.
herbthehammer said:
I've never seen the nexus s screen. Even though I think the epic screen is beautiful eye candy, it exaggerates how things look in real life. I don't know for a fact but I would guess that color, tint, and saturation have been cranked and tweaked so as to make people ooh and ahh when they look at it. A picture could easily be manipulated to make the colors really stand out. Maybe if you were tripping on LSD, the colors you see might look like the screen on the epic but that's not how things actually look like.
I was wondering a similar question just before I popped into the forum. You being a previous epic owner, what similarities, differences, and other observations are you finding out with the nexus? I'm very interested in your opinions because I used to have an epic and wonder how the experience might be when comparing the two phones.
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Hey herb, I remember you from the Epic forums! You're actually 100% correct on why the Epic screen looks different. Prior to our most recent update (2.3.3) our screens would have looked very similar but then Google decided to make things look more natural. Now for a brief tangent: I used to sell TVs at Best Buy and one thing you'll notice about any new LCD TV, and Samsung is a particularly bad offender on this front, is that they are very, very blue. Much like all of the SAMOLEDS. This is because the human eye reads bright blue as even brighter white; it makes people think that one screen is so much more bright and vibrant than another. And its exactly the trick that is causing problems here.
One other thing I did while at Best Buy is do a lot of screen calibration (both selling and actually calibrations). People see the calibrated screen next to the non-calibrated one and you know what they all say? That it looks dull and washed out. Then I pulled out a special trick: You hold a sheet of blank white paper next to a white image on both screens. On the calibrated screen the color of the screen comes very close to the color of the paper. Of course it does, they're both white. But on the non-calibrated screen the "white" looked markedly blue. This is a test I've run on both a 2.3.2 Nexus S screen and a 2.3.3 Nexus S screen. I've done it on both mine and my wife's phones and I can tell you that I found the exact results described above. I'm not trying to be insulting but the truth is that its a tactic to sell more products and that it works. People like things they think look better and they think the non-calibrated screen looks better. Its just that its not. The point of HiDef (or more accurately in this case a beautiful screen) is to make things look more real, not more fake which is what those false colors do. But people want what they want and no matter how many times they're told it should be a certain way it doesn't matter. Its like how people insist on buying hybrids even though the process of making their batteries is immensely destructive to the environment and the fact that a diesel will usually get the same if not better fuel economy with cleaner emissions. Its the image that matters.
As to answer the second part of your question, Herb, I love my Nexus S. I hated the Epic. I hated how it felt like a completely forgotten device from the second it came off the line. I hated that we had to build stock roms off of leaked builds just to get working GPS. The second someone offered, I traded it for an Evo (which I loved immensely, for the record) I even drove 160 miles to make the trade <.<
As a phone, solely the device I mean, it works amazingly. I get around 14-16 hours of use a day and even then I still only get down to 20-30% depending on usage. If I spend the day flashing roms, sure it goes a bit quicker than that but flashing takes a lot of power. A lot of people complain about the call volume but I have to say its not bad. Its a bit quiet but its usable in most settings and if its not, I can pop in my bluetooth earpiece and its fine again. As for speed? I can't explain it but it is lightyears faster than my old Epic. Its amazingly fast. More than blistering.
Now, people around here often like to complain that our development is slow but really its no slower than the epic was and now that its launching in Canada and on Sprint its only going to grow. I know of a few devs that plan to switch from the Epic over here and things will start to really boom. Honestly, I'm tempted by dual core phones, specifically by the rumored HTC Pyramid but I wouldn't give up my Nexus S. Its the first smart phone that I actually, truly, enjoy using. And now my wife is complaining about my "writing a novel" so I'll wrap it up. I love my Nexus S.
One more question/concern.
With the nexus s, if you download the programs livo recorder and virtual recorder, what happens? When you play back after recording audio on the high quality settings, does the audio studder and skip like it did on the epic? The HTC evo and shift are the only two phones I've used that can make flawless recordings and have very sensitive mics. I've had emails with the devs of their respective programs when the epic came out. The epic was very bad with high bitrate audio recording. If I would make a recording of me counting the seconds on the program as it was recording, it would studder, skip, and jump ahead a few seconds constantly. It was kinda like a mix between listening to a scratched CD skipping and watching Max headroom and his glitching while speaking.
If you get the time sometime, publish your results. Also, does the video recorder crash, like the epic, when its on its highest resolution settings? I know it can't do HD but I'm still wondering. Thanks
Hey herb. It doesn't crash on its highest setting and ill give those apps a shot tomorrow and upload them to YouTube
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herbthehammer said:
I've never seen the nexus s screen. Even though I think the epic screen is beautiful eye candy, it exaggerates how things look in real life. I don't know for a fact but I would guess that color, tint, and saturation have been cranked and tweaked so as to make people ooh and ahh when they look at it. A picture could easily be manipulated to make the colors really stand out. Maybe if you were tripping on LSD, the colors you see might look like the screen on the epic but that's not how things actually look like.
I was wondering a similar question just before I popped into the forum. You being a previous epic owner, what similarities, differences, and other observations are you finding out with the nexus? I'm very interested in your opinions because I used to have an epic and wonder how the experience might be when comparing the two phones.
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Other than the screen on the Epic, I hated the Epic. I didn't like the keyboard, the side button, or the software. I love the Nexus S...even if the screen is slightly less than the Epic(which probably could be fixed with voodoo color adjustments). However, I think I might sell mine and buy the Sprint Nexus S simply because Sprint does not have a data cap.
I hate Tmobile for tricking me in unlimited data. I think they are ATT.

Galaxy S II I9100 - Just got mine! - mini review

Ok -I just got my Galaxy S II here in the uk from phones4u (wouldn't really recommend them but they had it early. My previous Galaxy S which I had massive GPS problems with over almost every ROM and radio combination is eventually going on eBay.
I thought others here might be interested in the SII
Initial impressions are:
Wow - this thing is blazingly and surprisingly fast. I've seen reviews that say it's fast but when you use it - it simply refuses to slow down anywhere in the UI or apps. The Market for example is crazy fast and installing apps is a breeze.
TouchWiz 4 is really a huge improvement and the small changes here and there along with the speed mentioned abive make it a real pleasure to use. Can't as of yet replace the Messaging app link to GoSMS (my personal choice) - but maybe will be able to when root becomes available.
Now - a little background information: I'm very sensitive to colour and brightness uniformity variations and I have to say that over the past few years have had some issues with monitors, a Samsung TV and an iPhone 4 I sent back for problems I know others simply cannot see or simply don't consider "problems". I do - and for that reason I was astonished and delighted by the Super Amoled screen in my GPS defying Galaxy S. I literally love(d) that screen and it was crisp, sharp, large and beautiful with absolutely no colour shift or backlight issues (there isn't one!).
So when I found out that the Galaxy SII had a Super Amoled+ screen I was dribbling with anticipation.
When I turned on my brand-shiny-new Galaxy SII this afternoon however I noticed something I'd seen while toying with the first few SII's I'd handled in the phones4u shops but thought nothing of - the screen is slightly "muddy" although vibrant and there is a definite variation in either brightness or colour shift across the screen from top to bottom - especially visible (almost only visible) on solid colour backgrounds in apps and also Gmail. In know and will state in anticipation that most others wouldn't notice this. Having had my Galaxy S though which had a screen I consider virtually perfect - I was a bit surprised to find that this new SuperAmoled+ screen had a completely different colour temperature and exhibited what looked like colour shift from top to bottom. I was also very surprised that the screen did NOT look as sharp as the screen on my original Galaxy S because these Samoled+ screens are meant to be "sharper". I wonder what the pixel density is compared to the Samoled screens?
Also, when you tilt the phone, the colour of the screen shifts a lot more than the original Galaxy S. Hmmmm......
Anyway - after having just paid around (I am crazy I know) £500 for this phone I feel a little sick.
I LOVE the speed. I love the interface. I know and love Android. I'm surprised by the screen however.
Just thought I'd give everyone a heads-up and HIGHLY recommend you go and have a look at one first before, say, buying online if you are also sensitive to screen uniformity or if you prefer the more "blue" white balance of the original Samoled screens as opposed to a more "yellow" tint - which this SGSII has.
I'm hoping that maybe it will "warm up" and/or "settle in" but I'm not too sure about that. I've tried turning off "auto brightness" and that definitely makes the screen brighter - as you'd imagine - but doesn't seem to help with my issues described above.
Now - onto something else entirely - GPS:
I've only tested this VERY quickly and indoors but the GPS seems to work better than the oroginal SGS. Will do further testing because I use Google Navigation quite a lot but so far I'm hopeful this is now fully resolved. GPS crappyness was one of the main reasons I upgraded and the main lure of this phone was the Samoled+ screen, so I really don't know what I'm gonna do.
The screen issues are so subjective I'm guessing the shop wouldn't consider it a "fault" and so I'd have a fight on my hands with that one.
I think I'll wait a little to see what happens - I think my eyes would get used to the colour balance being slightly warmer but the slight blurriness of the icons/screen and the slightly lighter bottom half (very slight) will probably stay as they are and are very noticeable to me.
Anyway - hope that was of some interest to someone. Any questions - just ask and I'll do my best to answer.
Nice little roundup, glad you're pleased with it on the whole.
Is there any way you could get an image or two of both handsets side by side, comparing the viewing angles and colour shift for potential buyers?
There have been quite a few tweaks relating to the screen in custom SGS kernels, were you running stock or something like speedmod on the SGS?
You are very wicked boy now i want .
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Congrats alsheron
Hope ya will enjoy your new toy
Any hands-on pics? I know i can easily find it on google but... you know, its kinda different when pics are taken by a non-gadget bloggers
/nik on MIUI
Sorry guys - the screen issues and finding out that £399 is the price on O2 payg (i'm on o2 contract) has made me feel a bit more sick.
I'm attempting to take it back to phones4u tomorrow. I already called and can tell it's going to be trouble. They have to call "head office" apparently. Thank God I can show my existing SGS next to the new SGSII so that they can clearly see the difference. I consider the issues I described a fault of the first batch and being able to see the difference easily should help me but I've not got a good feeling about phones4u. We'll see though. Hopefully they'll surprise me.
Wish me luck! -> Really need all your goodwill
You should post a track from my tracks with both device to see how GPS compare
alsheron said:
Sorry guys - the screen issues and finding out that £399 is the price on O2 payg (i'm on o2 contract) has made me feel a bit more sick.
I'm attempting to take it back to phones4u tomorrow. I already called and can tell it's going to be trouble. They have to call "head office" apparently. Thank God I can show my existing SGS next to the new SGSII so that they can clearly see the difference. I consider the issues I described a fault of the first batch and being able to see the difference easily should help me but I've not got a good feeling about phones4u. We'll see though. Hopefully they'll surprise me.
Wish me luck! -> Really need all your goodwill
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I hope you have 2.3.3 on your SGS to compare it to your SGS2, as 2.3.3 will warm up any screen (google wanted this, not samsung). If you are compareing 2.2 or 2.2.1 with your new SGS2 then that is not a fare comparison of the screen and its color!
The Engadget review posted a few hours ago said there's an app or setting that lets you change the screen's colour temperature. In fact, they say pretty much the opposite to what you've said about the screen.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/28/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-review/
Perhaps you have a faulty one.
Congrats man. And good luck!
Can't wait to get my hands on this new Galaxy.
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I want this phone SOOO bad :/ I literally love it.
Can you post the email apk please
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How does the samoled + perform in sunlight ? Better than samoled ?
Can you please post email.apk and Movie Maker apk.
I have been looking for that video editing software but couldn't find it anywhere. I will appreciate it if you do it. Thanks
wow. super envy.
no budget for a new phone this year so i'm stuck with the i9000.
me too so eager to have my hand on this phone....i am going to see and hold it first once they available here and decide if it is too big for me or not......btw this phone realy drive me crazy and hoping to change it with my SGS...btw I dont have any problem with my SGS right now even with the GPS.....
how is the battery life?
kelvs said:
wow. super envy.
no budget for a new phone this year so i'm stuck with the i9000.
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Well the SGS I is still a very nice and capable phone. You probably won't regret holding onto this one when the SGS III comes out.
matlear said:
Can you post the email apk please
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Here, I've pulled everything from "/system": [URL=http://hotfile.com/dl/116132455/f24648b/System.zip.html]http://hotfile.com/dl/116132455/f24648b/System.zip.html[/URL]
Davith said:
Well the SGS I is still a very nice and capable phone. You probably won't regret holding onto this one when the SGS III comes out.
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Any updates regarding s3?
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Compared the GN to the GS2 and Iphone 4s today

After reading a lot of reviews and discussions about the Galaxy Note it was time to see and feel the Note in real life today. I went to a quiet gsm shop and took my time comparing the Note to the GS2 and the Iphone 4s. I'm an Iphone user for almost 4 years and a happy camper most of the times, until the Iphone 5 didn't show..... First impression of the Note: huge, slim and.....huge! Time to play around with it and check out the whole "pentile-retina-rgb story. Conclusion: Iphone 4s best screen quality, followed bij the Note and the S2. White is kind of blue on the Note and you can see the pentile "frames". Black is wow, colours nice, but the white.....pitty..... Then the scrolling/pinching experience on the Note (better on the S2): a lot of lag, not very fluid speedwise. The browsing experience is a totally different story, you can just read a whole website on the Note without scrolling and pinching most of the time. This is an amazing experience and unmatched by any other phone. But still........ I'm more confused after today.....which one to take.... There is no perfect phone, no complete package, compromises all the time. Waiting for the S3 is no option, Galaxy Nexus no match, streamlining the Note with updates like ICS is no holy grail.....
Now time for a nice diner and maybe you guys can give me some headrest....
iPhone is solid (too much so)
Galaxy S2 is quick and sleek
Note has a beautifully large display (primarily for browsing)
your choice...only a matter of time before updates comes out for the note to make it as responsive as the rest... i'll stick with my note
To fix the color issue you faced:
1. Go to "Settings"
2. "Display"
3. "Screen Mode"
4. Select the best one for you. I love "Dynamic" since the colors are rich and warm. "Standard" and "Movie" are kind of bluish which might explain the problem you have.
You will never see such detail and options on any iPhone.
Let the Note get Cyanogen or ICS.. Will be awesome (until Samsung launch SG3 in four months)
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Beyond the contrast options, you must take into account, for the lag, the fact that Android is customizeable, and the best user experience may not be the stock one. Also, shop phones may have several amounts of crap installed and misconfigured in it that a stock phone will not come with.
Viamonte said:
Beyond the contrast options, you must take into account, for the lag, the fact that Android is customizeable, and the best user experience may not be the stock one. Also, shop phones may have several amounts of crap installed and misconfigured in it that a stock phone will not come with.
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Agree with you on the last bit.
I was one of the first few people to try the Galaxy Note in my local Samsung Shop and it was smooth as butter. I bought mine and after loading with many apps it is still running as smooth as any iPhone can be, if not better.
Thnx for the replies guys. I tested the different `screen modes`and the saturation of the colours changed indeed, except the white balance. It remained `blueish`. Do you recognize this phenomenon? I really hope the lag will disappear with updates like the 2.3.6 one, because the model in the shop was stil on 2.3.5. Because of the lag I miss the `in control` sensation.
biggy83 said:
Agree with you on the last bit.
I was one of the first few people to try the Galaxy Note in my local Samsung Shop and it was smooth as butter. I bought mine and after loading with many apps it is still running as smooth as any iPhone can be, if not better.
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Hey "Biggy83"!
Could please share the street price(lowest) for the Note in Dubai or Sharjah??
It will be a real help!!
I stay in Abu Dhabi
Thnx for the replies guys. I tested the different `screen modes`and the saturation of the colours changed indeed, except the white balance. It remained `blueish`. Do you recognize this phenomenon? I really hope the lag will disappear with updates like the 2.3.6 one, because the model in the shop was stil on 2.3.5. Because of the lag I miss the `in control` sensation.
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2.3.6 has no lag
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btentusscher said:
Thnx for the replies guys. I tested the different `screen modes`and the saturation of the colours changed indeed, except the white balance. It remained `blueish`. Do you recognize this phenomenon? I really hope the lag will disappear with updates like the 2.3.6 one, because the model in the shop was stil on 2.3.5. Because of the lag I miss the `in control` sensation.
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Yes whites are bluyish (colder) on samoled screens, but you only notice it when you put a hotter screen nearby (iphone 4s is hot white). Try spending 10 minutes browsing on the note or S2 without looking at any other white screen nearby and your brain will register white as white...
I'm not joking.
frostering said:
. Will be awesome (until Samsung launch SG3 in four months)
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Not until it will have a 5.3 inch screen. Cant go lower now
Maybe you´re completely right about the white. I´m a bit of a hifi guy and listened to many different high end speakers and amplifiers in my life. You get the same problem in that situation because you are comparing too much. It´s about the details that come to light next to each other, but completely disappear when you take them apart. Sound is emotion, and eyesight is not far away. Maybe the solution is to just buy the damn thing and see what happens. Discussing about it is also nice though....hehe
ps I´m from the netherlands, so forgive me for my english.
Ziplomatic said:
Hey "Biggy83"!
Could please share the street price(lowest) for the Note in Dubai or Sharjah??
It will be a real help!!
I stay in Abu Dhabi
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I live in Dubai & bought my Galaxy Note from Jumbo Electronics, cost me 2999 dirhams.
It was the LAST one in stock in the whole of Dubai, I bought it from the main branch in Bur Dubai, opposite Al Ain Centre...
Super AMOLED always has worse whites than regular LCD panels, its also less bright, that's a given. If I had to liken Super AMOLED to any TV technology it would be high end plasma tvs. They also have awesome blacks and color but their white levels are below LCD tvs. However, the trade off is that you don't get ugly gray screens during black scenes and in the case of AMOLED, black levels are infinite as is the contrast ratio (thus giving you more "pop" in your images). So it more than makes up for the lesser brightness vs LCDs like those found in iPhone 4s.
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Super AMOLED always has worse whites than regular LCD panels, its also less bright, that's a given...
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My Note's screen is brighter than just about every other phone I've had, which were mostly LCDs.
btentusscher said:
Conclusion: Iphone 4s best screen quality...
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I owned an iP4 since launch day and had it for over a year then switched to the S2, and now I have a Note. I agree with you that the iP4 has the overall best screen quality, but it's a shame you have to zoom into almost everything since it is so tiddly.
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There is no perfect phone, no complete package, compromises all the time.
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True.
Having only been using Android for 2-3 months now, first on the S2 and currently on the Note, at this point in time I believe I will never go back to iOS.
It is indeed about compromises, and the Note ticks FAR more boxes for my requirements, hence it is a no brainer over an iPhone. Once you start using the beast of a screen you can't go back to an iPhone, even my S2 feels so small now.
ik911 said:
2.3.6 has no lag
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My SII is so responsive it could take an eye out, but my Note is still laggy enough to be bothersome with 2.3.6.
maxh said:
My Note's screen is brighter than just about every other phone I've had, which were mostly LCDs.
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Galaxy Note's max brightness is about 429 cd/m^2 vs 654 cd/m^2 for the iPhone 4s. That's a huge difference and thus backs up what I said.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_n7000-review-676p2.php
5150Joker said:
Galaxy Note's max brightness is about 429 cd/m^2 vs 654 cd/m^2 for the iPhone 4s. That's a huge difference and thus backs up what I said.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_n7000-review-676p2.php
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So because one LCD phone you had has a higher brightness than one AMOLED phone, it makes sense to say that it's a given that LCDs are brighter than AMOLEDs... Right... Are you a scientist?
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So because one LCD phone you had has a higher brightness than one AMOLED phone, it makes sense to say that it's a given that LCDs are brighter than AMOLEDs... Right... Are you a scientist?
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Did you bother clicking on the link? The Super AMOLED brightness is basically middle of the road. I can find a lot more examples of LCD panels that are way brighter but why bother? It's common knowledge, I guess nobody's clued you in yet. And yes I am a scientist.
P.S. Go over to your local AT&T store, pull out your Note and put it next to the newly released HTC Vivid. Then try to tell me with a straight face that the Note is nearly as bright.

FYI : Supercurio has joined the league: update new audioboost

https://twitter.com/#!/supercurio/status/144589639410384897
Update: Supercurio has tweeted that he is working on new audioboost application.
OMG, Nice!
Hopefully he can have a color tune for the G-Note.. really need to fix the gamma levels on the black and on the greys.
Awesome news
Sounds like a new era for our toys
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Indeed awesome news!
Yeah, it has few flaws... Cant wait to see what this guy will be doing! Hope he will do something with the color - hue shift that happens every so often (that can be seen on low brightness on white background ,mostly at night...)
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Indeed awesome news!
Yeah, it has few flaws... Cant wait to see what this guy will be doing! Hope he will do something with the color - hue shift that happens every so often (that can be seen on low brightness on white background ,mostly at night...)
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He will have to work on color calibration and gamma settings... Wish him good luck!
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sibere said:
He wil have to work on color calibration and gamma settings... Wish him good luck!
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Probably its the only thing im looking forward to.
Yes !
Welcome abroad,is the captain post still free?!!
This is awesome.. awesome news!
I'm having a hard time deciding if the note is just to large for me and I need a nexus.. this makes my decision even more complicated as I was getting the feeling no major dev support was going to be around.
The Note is brand new. Support will come. Especially when it gets released in the states.
BazookaAce said:
The Note is brand new. Support will come. Especially when it gets released in the states.
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The mans a legend made me galaxy s a great audio device shame he cant with this one but his screen tuning app for the tab was amazing even at alpha stage
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awesome news! looking forward to future developments!
Sound quality?
As an iPhone and Westone UM3x i'm having a hard time avoiding the purchase of a Note fearing that it could sound as bad as the Galaxy S2 (RF & CPU noise bleeding and sky high output impedance) thus if somebody with multidriver iems and discernimg ear could chime in it would help me an awful lot since the screen of the Note is so damn tempting that the iPhone looks like a cheap toy when i see them side by side at the store.
elfary said:
As an iPhone and Westone UM3x i'm having a hard time avoiding the purchase of a Note fearing that it could sound as bad as the Galaxy S2 (RF & CPU noise bleeding and sky high output impedance) thus if somebody with multidriver iems and discernimg ear could chime in it would help me an awful lot since the screen of the Note is so damn tempting that the iPhone looks like a cheap toy when i see them side by side at the store.
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Commented on another audio discussion thread already (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1323764 - after page 7 approx, since the 1st few pages were just speculation and drivel), but I'm fairly happy with the Note, Neutron MP and a pair of Earsonics SM3's (v1). No RF/CPU noise with the Note at all. Not as detailed/rounded vs Galaxy Tab with Voodoo and Neutron MP, but overall quite good imo. As someone mentioned in the other Note audio discussion thread, audio output is tight and clean.
sportedwood said:
This is awesome.. awesome news!
I'm having a hard time deciding if the note is just to large for me and I need a nexus.. this makes my decision even more complicated as I was getting the feeling no major dev support was going to be around.
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That's cos most of us believed all the blather about this being a niche phone cos it's so different. It's beginning to look pretty mainstream to me though that might just be the case in India..
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He will have to work on color calibration and gamma settings... Wish him good luck!
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Yes that certainly needs work. On that test image I made the shades below 4 just cut off completely, no ramp. This causes black blotches in shadow detail in video. I don't know what the hell Samsung was thinking there, so dumb.
Also there needs to be an RGB slider color adjust tool. As we know some screens are greenish, some reddish etc. The screen needs to be calibrated. I know I would bump down the green on mine a few notches to get accurate grayscales.
aussiebum said:
Commented on another audio discussion thread already (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1323764 - after page 7 approx, since the 1st few pages were just speculation and drivel), but I'm fairly happy with the Note, Neutron MP and a pair of Earsonics SM3's (v1). No RF/CPU noise with the Note at all. Not as detailed/rounded vs Galaxy Tab with Voodoo and Neutron MP, but overall quite good imo. As someone mentioned in the other Note audio discussion thread, audio output is tight and clean.
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Knowing that no RF/CPU noise bleeds is a great relief.
What i still fear though is that the output impedance is as high as it is in the Galaxy S II. You can try to offset the tonal skew by eqing but i hate equalizers or any DSP. I run all my audio hardware flat. If it's good it will stand but i'm not so sure that the Note will stand. I tried on store a couple of Samsung preloaded tunes with my UM3x and i noticed the sound was not as full and detailed as it's on my iPhone. But to assess the sound quality loss i'm afraid i'd need to buy one and try out a couple of good sounding albums (Steely Dan, Wilco or Sheryl Crow stuff).
Anyway i guess that i could always carry around my 7G 240 Gb modded iPod (and whenever i feel the need to visit audio nirvana amp it with the awesome ibasso T3).
But i'd end up carrying around two devices instead of just an iPhone.
It seems that i must choose whether to please my ears (iPhone) or my eyes (Note).
after just 2days of careful inspection, Note is marginally better than S2 in terms of SQ... not to brag but i have serious gears and ears to backup my findings...
(you can view my profile on head-fi and mobile-review)
About iPhone; its very sterile and flat; analytic per se... i prefer the more fun sound sig of the Note or N8...
and about SUPERCURIO jumping on our ship; its a breath... i wonder whats on his mind, but i prefer it to further improve the SQ... i love his screen tuning app on my S2 but i spoil more my ears than my eyes...
Sorry I am new to all this custom ROM stuff but who is this Superserio guy? Did he make some legendary rom/mod or something?

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