I originally posted this in another thread, but in case anyone else is interested, I got the ICS google talk installed on the kindle fire HD. I pulled 4.0.3 GoogleServicesFramework and talk from my Evo 3D and it installed on my rooted fire HD without a hitch. Gtalk works except a few minor things. Apparently the front camera is not supported, so anyone trying to contact you via camera or you trying to contact via camera will cause it to force close. Also voice chat is not functional and will force close. I've had the whole camera app crash out but a reboot brought it back. Regular text chat works with no problems.
My biggest issue is that Gtalk will seem to disconnect when the device is on sleep or out of the app for a period of time. I noticed that when I originally installed gingerbread talk on the kindle fire 1st gen, it had the same issue. I don't know if anyone has input on this on how to fix this issue, I haven't had much luck searching.
I noticed that my gmail app will not actively sync with my account (push mail) and am not sure if this is related to Gtalk losing connection. Everything else works fine, play store, maps, youtubeHD.
I threw in 4.0.3 GoogleLoginService for a complete set and have it installed myself.
I've had no problems but just a friendly reminder, everything done and installed is at your own risk.
If you install GoogleServicesFramework.apk, Talk.apk without a fully functional play store yet and can't log in, you will need to install the play store to sync your account first. Instructions can be found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1893410 Follow the instructions and download the provided apk's on the link page. AFTER google play is up and running, you can update to 4.0.3 Google services and install ICS talk.
I was able to figure out my gmail sync/push problem. It's locked out by the amazon ecosystem but if you use AccountAndSyncSettings.apk, it can be unlocked and the gmail option in settings will allow you to use the stock android sync settings. I believe this is the gingerbread version but has been running on my ICS GoogleFramework. Gmail still has a slight delay over the stock fire HD email app but now if you want gmail fully functional, it works. I've had the notification bar temporarily disappear but appears to be due to a bug in Gmail app. I saw others mention something like this happening in another thread.
Downloaded Sync Settings from the play store for quick access, it allows you to choose between stock amazon settings and the android settings. This only works once you've installed AccountAndSyncSettings.apk
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.francesandmarky.android.syncsettings&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5mcmFuY2VzYW5kbWFya3kuYW5kcm9pZC5zeW5jc2V0dGluZ3MiXQ..
I have yet to figure out the gtalk disconnection issue. Any feedback will still be appreciated.
In the last picture, you can just use the sync settings app from the play store to access and manage your accounts. Mine goes in order of Amazon, Twitter, Facebook, Dropbox, Exchange and Gmail. Email addresses blocked out for privacy.
**** In order to fully activate google sync for the very first time, you need to turn on the sync settings through gmail first. Then you can use the sync settings shortcut app to get to the rest of your sync and manage from there. Again, this was done on a rooted 7.1.5 device with google play account active and done at your own risk.
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After working on this issue all day and reading various information, I may have found a workaround to keep Gtalk signed in while the device is asleep.
After testing, I had found that Gtalk would still receive messages on a few minutes delay with the screen off. The message will be there but when turning on the screen and going to Gtalk, the interface would still display as "signed off" yet to others, I would be seen as "idle" and I would still have to log back in.
There was a missing link somewhere but I couldn't pin point it. Hoping eventually the devs will look into this issue and fix everything, including camera and mic support.
Currently, the work-around I figured out was to install Google+ app and sync my account. The app will keep the link open and no more unwanted log outs. I can't say how this will affect battery life at this time but Google+ is a widely used android app.
What seemed to work yesterday with my gtalk staying active decided to quit on me today, so back to square one. Still looking for any input on this matter.
Edit: right now this appears to be a slight bug in the gtalk program. The user is still signed in and shown as signed in to others on the gtalk list but the app on the kindle will need to re-login.
Thank you so much for your posting. It was full of tips and information. I was able to install the Google sync app and now my Google Voice application works. Before, it wouldn't even log be in. Now I can text from my Kindle HD. Thanks to you. You rock man!.
Jeff
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ameswilliam said:
Thank you so much for your posting. It was full of tips and information. I was able to install the Google sync app and now my Google Voice application works. Before, it wouldn't even log be in. Now I can text from my Kindle HD. Thanks to you. You rock man!.
Jeff
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Glad it worked for you!
Thanks for your sharing.
I did as your instruction to install AccountAndSyncSettings.apk, then go to gmail to try to open a sync setting. But system does not let me choose a sync setting app, so I could not set gmail sync on anyway.
Any idea about this?
Except gmail syc problem, everything like gmaps, talk, play store, youtube works well.
alkemist80 said:
I was able to figure out my gmail sync/push problem. It's locked out by the amazon ecosystem but if you use AccountAndSyncSettings.apk, it can be unlocked and the gmail option in settings will allow you to use the stock android sync settings. I believe this is the gingerbread version but has been running on my ICS GoogleFramework. Gmail still has a slight delay over the stock fire HD email app but now if you want gmail fully functional, it works. I've had the notification bar temporarily disappear but appears to be due to a bug in Gmail app. I saw others mention something like this happening in another thread.
Downloaded Sync Settings from the play store for quick access, it allows you to choose between stock amazon settings and the android settings. This only works once you've installed AccountAndSyncSettings.apk
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.francesandmarky.android.syncsettings&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5mcmFuY2VzYW5kbWFya3kuYW5kcm9pZC5zeW5jc2V0dGluZ3MiXQ..
I have yet to figure out the gtalk disconnection issue. Any feedback will still be appreciated.
In the last picture, you can just use the sync settings app from the play store to access and manage your accounts. Mine goes in order of Amazon, Twitter, Facebook, Dropbox, Exchange and Gmail. Email addresses blocked out for privacy.
**** In order to fully activate google sync for the very first time, you need to turn on the sync settings through gmail first. Then you can use the sync settings shortcut app to get to the rest of your sync and manage from there. Again, this was done on a rooted 7.1.5 device with google play account active and done at your own risk.
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timnan said:
Thanks for your sharing.
I did as your instruction to install AccountAndSyncSettings.apk, then go to gmail to try to open a sync setting. But system does not let me choose a sync setting app, so I could not set gmail sync on anyway.
Any idea about this?
Except gmail syc problem, everything like gmaps, talk, play store, youtube works well.
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You need to go into gmail and enter the gmail settings. From there you can turn on sync.
Click on your email address there and the sync option to turn on will be in there.
I tried that way, but in my case not like the way in your picture, your system prompts an option so you can choose a sync setting app to change. When I touch my email address there, screen blinks then go back to gmail settings. Mine is 7.2.1.
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You need to go into gmail and enter the gmail settings. From there you can turn on sync.
Click on your email address there and the sync option to turn on will be in there.
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Were you able to install it? This was done prior to the patch and I don't have this device anymore. You can try moving the apk to system/app, permissions rw-r-r and try installing it there.
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I was able to install it from google store and did try to move app to /system/app. Still not work. I even downloaded and tried to install 5 different accountsyncsettings.apk from somewhere else but none works.
I even use nookcolortool from which I should be able to open account sync setting but failed.
I would have to give up.
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From what I've been reading, amazon has been tightening things up with the patches. Without having the device to test myself, I can't say any longer if this will still install or if it's just your device. Sorry.
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I can't get Google Voice to sign in to my gmail account. The latest update requires to to re-sign in and it just keeps staying on the "signing on" part. Any advice?
maybe you can try copy voice.apk to system/app , then install it from there.
From my trials these days, gapps always get some troubles. So far in my device, I did root, then copy 6apps including superuser.apk, googleframework.apk, talk.apk, vending.apk, networklocation.apk, googleloginservice.apk to system/app, and after that I do a factory reset to let system reinitiate. My strategy is different from all current discussion in the forum. This way you have all basic apps and you can always do factory reset in future without redo root.
Based on this basic system, I downloaded from other internet sources and installed gmaps, play store, gmail, voice in my fire hd. So far all of them work well, except gmail can not sync automatically. Also no way to put in contacts and calendar.
I now am looking forward to safestrap.
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Word of warning: I installed this accountandsyncsettings.apk and the sync settings from these directions. But my Kindle Books were no longer sync and most of my books didn't show up on the Kindle HD anymore. I ended up doing a factory restore.
alkemist80 said:
I was able to figure out my gmail sync/push problem. It's locked out by the amazon ecosystem but if you use AccountAndSyncSettings.apk, it can be unlocked and the gmail option in settings will allow you to use the stock android sync settings. I believe this is the gingerbread version but has been running on my ICS GoogleFramework. Gmail still has a slight delay over the stock fire HD email app but now if you want gmail fully functional, it works. I've had the notification bar temporarily disappear but appears to be due to a bug in Gmail app. I saw others mention something like this happening in another thread.
Downloaded Sync Settings from the play store for quick access, it allows you to choose between stock amazon settings and the android settings. This only works once you've installed AccountAndSyncSettings.apk
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.francesandmarky.android.syncsettings&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5mcmFuY2VzYW5kbWFya3kuYW5kcm9pZC5zeW5jc2V0dGluZ3MiXQ..
I have yet to figure out the gtalk disconnection issue. Any feedback will still be appreciated.
In the last picture, you can just use the sync settings app from the play store to access and manage your accounts. Mine goes in order of Amazon, Twitter, Facebook, Dropbox, Exchange and Gmail. Email addresses blocked out for privacy.
**** In order to fully activate google sync for the very first time, you need to turn on the sync settings through gmail first. Then you can use the sync settings shortcut app to get to the rest of your sync and manage from there. Again, this was done on a rooted 7.1.5 device with google play account active and done at your own risk.
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Got everything working - except Talk! It just closes down before even starting. Play, Google+, Plus Messenger, all is well. Ideas?
Are you using the correct talk version with your Google services? The ones I posted is ICS, there are older services and talk files floating around that may cause incompatibility.
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Lots of problems
I am hoping someone can help! I have a 8.9" Kindle Fire HD. It's rooted, the Play Store is installed and working OK, Maps works OK, and Google Voice works OK.
BUT - I can't get GMail to work. It says "Gmail Has Stopped". (Not, "Unfortunately, GMail has stopped.")
And, I cannot get the Sync Settings App that you mention to work either. Like GMail, it opens for a split second, then closes.
NEVER MIND...found the correct one. that fixed it
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Are you using the correct talk version with your Google services? The ones I posted is ICS, there are older services and talk files floating around that may cause incompatibility.
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My gmail can not sync as well.
The way I am using is to utilize Amazon email app. But when you go through setting, choose exchange rather than gmail. If you have iphone or ipad, that is the way apple has to do for gmail. I got gmail and contact sync working well with no problem.
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I am hoping someone can help! I have a 8.9" Kindle Fire HD. It's rooted, the Play Store is installed and working OK, Maps works OK, and Google Voice works OK.
BUT - I can't get GMail to work. It says "Gmail Has Stopped". (Not, "Unfortunately, GMail has stopped.")
And, I cannot get the Sync Settings App that you mention to work either. Like GMail, it opens for a split second, then closes.
NEVER MIND...found the correct one. that fixed it
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I have a problem with Gmail and Talk. I have two accounts on Play Store. One address with gmail.com extension and other one has a different extension but it is configured on Google Apps services so it is based to Gmail. When I add this address to Gmail, Gmail stops working. If I only add to @gmail.com address Gmail app works. Is there any solution for that?
P.S. On my Galaxy SII, my both address works without any problem with any Google apps.
Well, I've rooted my NSTGL somewhere a month ago, installed all the apps I need and since then I rarely used wifi, turning it on for a shop sinchronisation only. But today I discovered that my youtube, market and gmail apps don't work, but browser does. Last messages in gmail is from 2nd october. In other device's threads there are suggestions to re-login in google account, but I don't see any way to do it. So, do I need to re-root my nook or there are some other solutions?
Have you tried Synker to get the googls apps syncing again?
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Have you tried Synker to get the googls apps syncing again?
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It seems pretty hard to install this app without an .apk which I was unsuccessfully googling for the last half an hour.
Here is the synker widget - the developer is afterhoursdevelopers
you should be able to save this to your nook sdcard and then click on it from your nook to install.
This is more or less information for those new to the NST/G and maybe contemplating whether to install Google Apps via NTGAppsAttack.
At the end of June 2017, Google ended Market access from Android 2.1 devices. That means no more direct access to market apps from the NST/G, not even through the SearchMarket app. It's over. Of course there are other ways to get apps. But this situation does beg the question "do I need/want GApps on my NST/G"?
The set of user apps installed is pretty basic (see list in the linked installation post). Of those apps, many now do not work.
GMail never worked properly. It picks up mail fine (still) but only sends a few messages and then has to be reinstalled if you want to send more. There is no apparent fix as this is a known issue for the version in the package. The simple email client I use can send and receive GMail on demand but does not require GMail sync to be working. Others may be similar. However, GMail is needed to set up sync for other things, as described in the NTGAppsAttack post.
Calendar never synced properly. A search of the forum will reveal various other apps people have used with varying success.
Contacts will not sync. Well, there actually is no Contacts app. Apparently the resident B&N contacts regimen interferes. Again, a forum search will yield various apps people have tried in place of Contacts.
Google Talk may or may not work. You can sign in, but that may not mean much.
Google News and Weather, aka Genie Widget, has been dead for some time now.
Calculator works Of course you could probably just drop that apk into your system/app folder and reboot. No GApps needed. And there are other calculator apps out there.
Other than Market access, the whole reason to want GApps is the ability to sync with information on Google servers. There is still one thing that works: Google Books (1.2.2). You can't just install Google Books and expect it to work without GApps because in addition to the apps listed, there is a slew of other stuff involving accounts and sync that is also installed with the NTGAppsAttack.
So the long and short of it would seem to be that if you're not interested in Google Books (for as long as it continues to work), then you don't need GApps on your system. If you do want Google Books, then you need GApps, but certainly not all of it.
Since the demise of market access I have been slowly disabling parts of GApps that seem safe to shut down. My list may not be exhaustive, but it does leave me with a functioning system. To disable an app in system/app, use a root browser to rename the apk file. I chose to rename Calendar.apk to Calendar.OLD, etc. Anything will do. GMail and GMailProvider can be disabled once you have set up sync for Books.
Here's the list of GApps I have disabled successfully:
Calendar
CalendarProvider
Gmail
GmailProvider
MarketUpdater
Talk
TalkProvider
Vending
If you have disabled others without breaking the system, I'd like to know. Always better to quiet the system down instead of having apps trying to phone home to no avail.
Edit: see also Regain Market access on your NST/G
Got a new Fire HD 10 recently, got all the Google APKs installed, play store running, every app except Chrome is accessing my Google account. When I try to log in to Chrome, I get the "Account already exists on this device" error. I've tried clearing cache and data for all Google Apps, uninstalling / reinstalling chrome. Any ideas to get sync working in Chrome?
Rubyzero80 said:
Got a new Fire HD 10 recently, got all the Google APKs installed, play store running, every app except Chrome is accessing my Google account. When I try to log in to Chrome, I get the "Account already exists on this device" error. I've tried clearing cache and data for all Google Apps, uninstalling / reinstalling chrome. Any ideas to get sync working in Chrome?
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Try to factory reset, bypass Amazon registration and re-install all Google API Service APK.
NOTE: If your Fire tablet have registered with Amazon account. You need to deregister and factory reset again to use Google account.
Do not register your Fire tablet with Amazon account.
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AmznUser444 Dev said:
Try to factory reset, bypass Amazon registration and re-install all Google API Service APK.
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Thanks for the heads up, I tried this, deregistered, factory reset, installed:
Google Account Settings
Google Services Framework
Google Play Services
Google Play
Added account to google play, downloaded chrome, get same message about "account already exists on this device."
Tried loading chrome apk after google play (after another factory reset), same issue.
Willing to try any other ideas.
Rubyzero80 said:
Thanks for the heads up, I tried this, deregistered, factory reset, installed:
Google Account Settings
Google Services Framework
Google Play Services
Google Play
Added account to google play, downloaded chrome, get same message about "account already exists on this device."
Tried loading chrome apk after google play (after another factory reset), same issue.
Willing to try any other ideas.
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Can you install Google Contacts Sync.
You Fire tablet have registered with Amazon account that causing an issues?
Same issue
Having the same issue, got the tablet today and installed google play and am getting the account has been added message.
For users having account already on this device just wait a few hours and keep trying. This is what seems to be happening for most, including myself.
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For users having account already on this device just wait a few hours and keep trying. This is what seems to be happening for most, including myself.
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This isn’t working for me. I installed all last night. I left the device on overnight. Alexa auto updated through Google Play Store, but I still get “the account already exists on your device” when trying to log into Chrome.
I have not registered with Amazon on the device and all system updates have been blocked (no OTA). I also debloated with Amazon Toolbox.
Anyone else figure out the why and how for the can’t log into Chrome issue here?
Thx!
I had the problem,the thing that seemed too work for me is sign in to your Google account on the built in Email client,then you can sign in to Chrome.
Rubyzero80 said:
Thanks for the heads up, I tried this, deregistered, factory reset, installed:
Google Account Settings
Google Services Framework
Google Play Services
Google Play
Added account to google play, downloaded chrome, get same message about "account already exists on this device."
Tried loading chrome apk after google play (after another factory reset), same issue.
Willing to try any other ideas.
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Try to disable any Amazon's bloatware like Amazon Appstore, Silk Browser, Amazon's Email app, DCP Platform Contracts app from ADB or Fire toolbox from @Datastream33. IMPORTANT: You need to install any web browser from Google Llay like Firefox or Google Chrome before doing this to disable Silk Browser.
Have you tried messing with Chrome's permissions?
I've had issues in the past until I manually went into the settings, and enabled google account + some other permissions for Chrome, and then restarted. Sometimes it just takes time for whatever reason.
For anyone having this issue, try to upgrade your "google play services" and reboot. You may be prompted to the upgrade page when you open "play games" app (other side loaded google apps might also do the trick).
Adding my Gmail account to the built in Email app fixed my problem too. Whoop! Thank you.
F***ing Amazon and Google ought to just figure out that most people use both of their services and allow Play Store and Chrome to reside side by side with Silk and Alexa (which I don't want to use, just like I don't use Microsoft Cortana, or Siri on my iPad).
In case someone else encounters this: it was the permissions for me. Enabled contact permissions for chrome and it worked.
Let's revive this thread... I recently purchased an HD10. I added the Google Play store, downloaded several apps not currently available in the Amazon app store, so it is definitely working.
For some reason chrome just won't run... it won't even give me the option to open it once it installs.
Any ideas what to do?
My daughters school has decided to start using Google classrooms for homework. Been trying with no joy at getting classrooms to work on her onyx tablet, either using the app or through the browser. Anyone have a solution?
decyther said:
My daughters school has decided to start using Google classrooms for homework. Been trying with no joy at getting classrooms to work on her onyx tablet, either using the app or through the browser. Anyone have a solution?
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If your Fire tablet is registered to your Amazon account. Deregister it and start to install Google services to get Google classroom works:
If you have your own Windows 10 PC to use Fire toolbox to install Google services first:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/development/official-amazon-fire-toolbox-v1-0-t3889604
After the Google services are installed on your Fire tablet. Then get Google Classroom from Play Store:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.classroom
AmznUser444 Dev said:
If your Fire tablet is registered to your Amazon account. Deregister it and start to install Google services to get Google classroom works:
If you have your own Windows 10 PC to use Fire toolbox to install Google services first:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/development/official-amazon-fire-toolbox-v1-0-t3889604
After the Google services are installed on your Fire tablet. Then get Google Classroom from Play Store:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.classroom
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Tried doing that, same result. Keeps giving a notification that the account associated with the school needs attention, if you tap on it it brings up a checking info screen then dumps me out and the notification returns.
I have the same exact problem. Anyone have a solution?
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Tried doing that, same result. Keeps giving a notification that the account associated with the school needs attention, if you tap on it it brings up a checking info screen then dumps me out and the notification returns.
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I had a similar issue, the true error notification was getting hidden. Google Classroom login with my daughters school account was forcing her to have a "pin" on her device. After I enabled a "pin" (or password) to log in to her tablet then everything worked great!
Try it out, hopefully it works for you!
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My daughters school has decided to start using Google classrooms for homework. Been trying with no joy at getting classrooms to work on her onyx tablet, either using the app or through the browser. Anyone have a solution?
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I figured out that you have to login to the child’s school Google account on a computer browser and then go to “Manage your account”. On the left hand side click security then scroll down a bit and look for the option to turn on “Less secure app access”. Once this is turned “on”, our child’s account started working on the 8th gen Fire HD 8.