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[Q] Reliability of TWRP??????

Question is basic; can someone with experience please give me the low-down when it comes to TWRP? I am new to Android in the sense but consider myself somewhat tech savvy. I test software and provide technical support for a living so I completely understand that people can do some dumb stuff. Just yesterday I had a man on the phone trying to connect his Pidion PDA to a McDonalds Wi-Fi by standing in his front yard and pointing it in the direction of a McDonalds two miles away. Anyhow I got the device for X-mas and have spent every day since reading about constant issues using TWRP. I’m really just trying to figure out if the blame for these issues can be pinned down on either the recovery itself or the fact that Millions of these things are in the hands of people who should probably not be doing the things they are doing at their current levels of knowledge, or a combination of both? I have owned a Moto-Triumph for a few month and have flashed Roms & Kernels out the Wahoo using CWM and have become very comfortable with its reliability but had not heard of TWRP until a few weeks ago and the association I have goes with all the stuck on Yellow Triangle posts covering just about every forum. I have TWRP installed and running CM7 and if this was my phone I would have flashed 2 Roms by lunch but for the reasons above feel like I should have a day set aside for trouble shooting before considering doing a simple thing like restoring a stock Nandroid. I lucked out with the Phone having an unlocked loader and Sudo installed out the box. Sorry I tend to rant but am basically asking that if I know my way around Roms and CWR will I be OK using TWRP or should I expect that it will have the occasional hiccup or is unstable in any way?

chairshot215 said:
Question is basic; can someone with experience please give me the low-down when it comes to TWRP? I am new to Android in the sense but consider myself somewhat tech savvy. I test software and provide technical support for a living so I completely understand that people can do some dumb stuff. Just yesterday I had a man on the phone trying to connect his Pidion PDA to a McDonalds Wi-Fi by standing in his front yard and pointing it in the direction of a McDonalds two miles away. Anyhow I got the device for X-mas and have spent every day since reading about constant issues using TWRP. I’m really just trying to figure out if the blame for these issues can be pinned down on either the recovery itself or the fact that Millions of these things are in the hands of people who should probably not be doing the things they are doing at their current levels of knowledge, or a combination of both? I have owned a Moto-Triumph for a few month and have flashed Roms & Kernels out the Wahoo using CWM and have become very comfortable with its reliability but had not heard of TWRP until a few weeks ago and the association I have goes with all the stuck on Yellow Triangle posts covering just about every forum. I have TWRP installed and running CM7 and if this was my phone I would have flashed 2 Roms by lunch but for the reasons above feel like I should have a day set aside for trouble shooting before considering doing a simple thing like restoring a stock Nandroid. I lucked out with the Phone having an unlocked loader and Sudo installed out the box. Sorry I tend to rant but am basically asking that if I know my way around Roms and CWR will I be OK using TWRP or should I expect that it will have the occasional hiccup or is unstable in any way?
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I have had no hiccups or any other problem, backing up. restoring or flashing.​

TWRP is awesome, backups and restores work great. The main issues are people getting stuck in fastboot, which is not really a TWRP issue. As long as you follow directions, you should have no issues.
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borborpa said:
TWRP is awesome, backups and restores work great. The main issues are people getting stuck in fastboot, which is not really a TWRP issue. As long as you follow directions, you should have no issues.
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I feel the same way as the OP. I have cwr on my phone and I have never messed up anything. I have roms backed up and I can always get up and running quickly. I have tried half assed roms just for the heck of it and no problem.
I don't think that TWRP is the same kind of program as CWM. I think it's almost impossible to brick my phone using clockword mod but I don't think the same can be said for TWRP. I have read so many posts with people who have TWRP installed and yet they manage to "brick" their device. I don't know if it's a TWRP issue or that the kindle is very sensitive. Nevertheless, I am not rooting it because of these issues, besides, I like stock (I would love swype, that's about it).

Twrp works great. They forgot to set it to change bootmodes leaving recovery so don't use apps to force into recovery. Just firefirrfire.
Most issues, are user errors. I haven't had one issue, and I test everything!
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although I havent had any issues (that I can think of) with twrp, the constant "cannot mount /misc !" really bothers me. twrp is on several devices and from what I understand about it... the dev responsible for twrp being on the kindle fire joined twrp, got it working for the fire, they rolled out twrp 2.0 then he quit the team to make a recovery + app he plans on being paid only. so with that said... who knows if twrp will be maintained for the fire?
I hate to bash on anyones work, I didnt have any problem flashing zips with it. I dont really backup/restore much but the few times I tried, it worked. I really like the fact it can be themed easily

foxdog66 said:
although I havent had any issues (that I can think of) with twrp, the constant "cannot mount /misc !" really bothers me. twrp is on several devices and from what I understand about it... the dev responsible for twrp being on the kindle fire joined twrp, got it working for the fire, they rolled out twrp 2.0 then he quit the team to make a recovery + app he plans on being paid only. so with that said... who knows if twrp will be maintained for the fire?
I hate to bash on anyones work, I didnt have any problem flashing zips with it. I dont really backup/restore much but the few times I tried, it worked. I really like the fact it can be themed easily
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That's a great concern. Which is why I've been Working with doomlord to bring clockworkmod to our kindle fires. We need support. Twrp does not have that. But it works.
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Thanks for the responses; I think my fears stem from unfamiliarity. Like I said above everything was easily with my Triumph, was able to install CWM without Rooting the stock Rom and outside of doing something dumb like frying the CPU always felt comfortable knowing I could easily get back up and running no matter how bad I messed things up. I’m sure I will be fine, just need to get used to doing things a little differently and school myself on ADB and Fastboot and as recommended above avoid any apps or options for rebooting into recovery.

I haven't had any issues with twrp so far. Installing was a little tricky when i got stuck at the yellow triangle but after that everything has been good so far.

I have TWRP on both my kindle fire and my wife's and neither has had a single issue with it. My brother, who is not what I would call tech savvy, installed it onto his just a couple days ago without issue by reading the instructions and multiple threads posted around here without issue. I think a lot of the issues come from people not reading as closely as they should or just from getting overly excited about being stuck in fastboot.
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I would like to put twrp on my phone. It works great. Half of what cwm does fails on my phone. Twrp works every time. People having issues likely can't follow instructions and don't have the knowledge if adb to fix their mistakes
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all win
TWRP is all win. If you follow directions to a T and dont frustrated it will work fine. In alot of ways TWRP is better than CWM.

The TWRP team is maintaining TWRP. Even though the head developer left, If you would have read there tweets they are taking some time off. They Even Had announced a Twrp 3 for release, But for now everything is onhold until the team is better organised.If a developer would contact the team for the source, the xda community can keep it maintained.

Question about CWM vs TWRP

I am real new to the KindleFire community but so far loving my Kfire. I see in slot of posts they say to use TWRP to install or update a ROM. Since I have CWM installed can I use it instead are they interchangeable for installing files?
Hope that make sense.
Thanks
Rod

most people are taking about twrp because it was the first recovery for the kf
cwm is quite new for the kf
you can use both to install roms ...

Cwm is able to be updated by current developers. Twrp looks cool, but just needs to be updated. If someone updates the reboot wrappers it'd be a winner. But I do like and prefer cwm
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yeah twrp is dead for our device. cwm is still alive though

paranoid android85 said:
yeah twrp is dead for our device. cwm is still alive though
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Is there or link or how-to to swtich from TWRP to CWM? Does CWM have all the features as TWRP? I have been using TWRP since I rooted the KF, have used it to back up, flash new roms to try out, flash back to my backup. CWM does all this, just dosn't have the nice CWM interface?

ontwowheels said:
Is there or link or how-to to swtich from TWRP to CWM? Does CWM have all the features as TWRP? I have been using TWRP since I rooted the KF, have used it to back up, flash new roms to try out, flash back to my backup. CWM does all this, just dosn't have the nice CWM interface?
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The easiest way is to use THIS method, just be sure to unzip the file on your Kindle rather than on a computer or it may not work correctly. The only difference I've noticed between CWM and TWRP is that CWM does not compress the backup so the file is a lot bigger, my backups used to be in the low 500mb range and now they are in the low 800's.

Any particular reason to migrate to CWM? I have TWRP from the first day ant it doing a job very well. So, did CWM have any new features?

gett said:
Any particular reason to migrate to CWM? I have TWRP from the first day ant it doing a job very well. So, did CWM have any new features?
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Development should be the main reason imo I think the interface looks way better. I got annoyed by the flickering backlight with twrp. It does all the same things, but cwm looks better. Plus before I switched, twrp wouldn't flash roms or gapps all the time, it would get stuck and I would have to reboot
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gett said:
Any particular reason to migrate to CWM? I have TWRP from the first day ant it doing a job very well. So, did CWM have any new features?
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For me there was not a reason to use TWRP as I have been using CWM for the last several years on smartphones and was more comfortable with it. I also read several articles where people had issues with TWRP so with as much problems as I was having trying to root my kindle because of USB driver I wanted to stick with something I know. So I thought it best to stick with and old friend I was used too. Not saying one is better than the other I just like CWM better for me and think it gives me more options to perform operations on my phone and kindle.
Rod

How have the pros and cons changed with the intro of TWRP 2.1? I am currently using CWM touch but prefer the TWRP interface, but don't want to sacrifice any features.

phantom9x said:
How have the pros and cons changed with the intro of TWRP 2.1? I am currently using CWM touch but prefer the TWRP interface, but don't want to sacrifice any features.
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all the reboot option in twrp are still broken so Cwm is still the way to go and mabe im ocd but i like haveing Cwm on my phone and tablet plus you dont have to worry about accidenty hiting reboot to recovery and being in a boot loop

different versions of CWM touch?
I just switched from CWM touch (DooMLorD) v1.0 Final to v5.0.2.7-kf1.5 I was wondering what the differences are? I tried the Change UI color feature, but it doesn't seem to work, just stays red. is there something I'm missing? and what else was changed?

its just cleaned up. not sure why it wont change colors, works fine on my device I tested all the colors when I posted the screen shots.
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smirkis said:
its just cleaned up. not sure why it wont change colors, works fine on my device I tested all the colors when I posted the screen shots.
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I installed it and changed it to cyan with no problem! Thanks!
PS, not to resurrect a dead issue, make sure you use Root Browser (if you used Root Explorer it may not have updated check the version).

smirkis said:
its just cleaned up. not sure why it wont change colors, works fine on my device I tested all the colors when I posted the screen shots.
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Hmmm....I followed the instructions to the letter, even retried it, then rebooted, no luck, installed TWRP, rebooted, reinstalled CWMT 1.5 still no luck with colors. It's not really a big deal, I'm just Being kinda OCD! Everything else about it work perfect though....
P.S. I realize this probably belongs in the DEV thread, but I can't post there yet YAY For Noobs!!

Lenovo K1 CM10 V2 -Clockwork Mod /Recovery Question

In Clockwork Mod, in build [ROM][JB] CM10 for Ideapad K1 (Big thanks to krook1, it runs great) (I'm running version 2). Whenever I attempt to use any of the features it asks me to install the recovery (which I know I have, and can boot to it) and asks me to choose my device.. Which it then only gives me the ASUS TRANSFORMER as an option.
So, on Version 1 of this build, some time back. I said, what the heck, why not. Let it do its thing,rebooted.. and the system would not ever boot. Just hung at the CM10 boot animation.
Whatever. I used the NVFlash version, got it back up and running. Rebooted in to CWR, and flashed the [ROM]CM10 for Ideapad K1 version 2 CWM version on it. No real loss.
However, Id really rather not have to wipe my device again to go to version 3, or 4.. and I don't want to get stuck at a boot animation again.
Is it normal for the CWM to identify this build as a ASUS TRANSFORMER?
Thanks

Basically ROM manager doesn't support our device directly. Someone ported cwm recovery for our device.
Again if you try using cwm meant for other device it won't work.
I have same issue with my phone.
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Thank you for the reply.
I figured it was something along those lines. What doesn't make sense to me is, if Krook1 took the time to make a CWM enabled ROM, then one would assume that in the build process the proper porting/modifications will have taken place. Otherwise why bother?
That said, I have no doubts about XDA's fine developers, the author of this one included in that. Thus it must be something specific to either that build revision (V1 at the time) or something specific to my tablet (possibly the remnant of an earlier flash [is that even possible with NVFlash and the format it does prior to flashing?]). If it is the latter, then what actions might I take to correct it?
I guess, what I am trying to mine out of this thread is has anyone else running this build have the same issue (Does it prompt for the ASUS?) and if so, did it work as intended. I'm just a little gun shy of trying it again now that the tablet is setup. However as aforementioned I would like the ability to use later revisions of this ROM, while reaping the benefits of the paid CWM.
-Cheers.

I see the same time to thing on my k1.
ROM manager will not show us tablet unless the ROM manager creator adds our device to his app.
Again ROM manager is not a required app and can be safely removed. I don't use it at all.
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Help with restoring backup

Hey guys I'm new to Android in general so sorry if these seem like dumb questions. I've searched online for a while now and I can't really seem to get a concrete answer. Anyways so I got CWM 5.5.0.4 running on my 7510 just fine last night. I then did a backup of everything from within CWM 5.5.0.4. Then I went and flashed CM10 Jellybean to see if it worked fine. Went back to CWM and tried restoring back to ICS, to check that too and it worked fine. I want to mention at this point I couldn't get Titanium Backup or ROM Manager working from withint ICS at this point because it kept saying that it couldn't get root access (I rooted my 7510 through the method listed as a guide in the Developers section of this forum), but since I could restore back without a problem to ICS with all my settings intact, I thought I'd give it a try anyways.
I then flashed back to CM10, and upgraded to the newest CWM Touch version 5.8.x.x from within ROM Manager once in CM10. I then decided I wanted to go back to ICS so I tried to restore back to ICS through CWM Touch, and it didn't work. I’ve tried doing an entire normal backup, and then strictly the apps, nothing works. Keeps telling me there’s an error.
What’s the best thing to do? Switch back to 5.5.0.4? Can I do that without turning on USB debug mode? Because I didn’t check this beforehand but I can’t click on Storage in settings and even access USB period, whether it’s to transfer stuff or to turn on USB Debug mode.
Any help would be appreciated! I mainly want to go back because all my apps are setup the way I like in ICS. Unless someone knows away to restore apps properly back without going through CWM, maybe through some app that can read the backup data if that makes any sense?

HeyYoWL said:
Hey guys I'm new to Android in general so sorry if these seem like dumb questions. I've searched online for a while now and I can't really seem to get a concrete answer. Anyways so I got CWM 5.5.0.4 running on my 7510 just fine last night. I then did a backup of everything from within CWM 5.5.0.4. Then I went and flashed CM10 Jellybean to see if it worked fine. Went back to CWM and tried restoring back to ICS, to check that too and it worked fine. I want to mention at this point I couldn't get Titanium Backup or ROM Manager working from withint ICS at this point because it kept saying that it couldn't get root access (I rooted my 7510 through the method listed as a guide in the Developers section of this forum), but since I could restore back without a problem to ICS with all my settings intact, I thought I'd give it a try anyways.
I then flashed back to CM10, and upgraded to the newest CWM Touch version 5.8.x.x from within ROM Manager once in CM10. I then decided I wanted to go back to ICS so I tried to restore back to ICS through CWM Touch, and it didn't work. I’ve tried doing an entire normal backup, and then strictly the apps, nothing works. Keeps telling me there’s an error.
What’s the best thing to do? Switch back to 5.5.0.4? Can I do that without turning on USB debug mode? Because I didn’t check this beforehand but I can’t click on Storage in settings and even access USB period, whether it’s to transfer stuff or to turn on USB Debug mode.
Any help would be appreciated! I mainly want to go back because all my apps are setup the way I like in ICS. Unless someone knows away to restore apps properly back without going through CWM, maybe through some app that can read the backup data if that makes any sense?
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Easiest way is to go back to the old cwm. The touch ver is a bit uggly according to me. (Personly i run Twrp tocuh recovery. Its nice and sleek. Gives option to compress backupps to. Includes a filemanager to. )
Otherwise if you install clock work mod from gogle play there is an option to restore apps from the backup.
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How exactly do I go back to the old CWM? Do I have to enable USB Debugging mode? As I mentioned I can't even do that because it's greyed out for me in CM10.

I dont know why usb debug is incheckable, i'm not a dev. But don't think it's important if you flash cwm via odin.
Use the same method you got cwm the first time.
Easiest is flashing it through odin. I guess you can follow that root guide you used initialy.
Rom manager can restore apps from backupfile. Just go deeper in menus.
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[Q] Undo ubuntu?

hey guys, im bored and was thinking of installing ubuntu on my nexus but before i did it i was wondering how do you get back to android. im pretty sure your recovery stays, so if i just boot back into twrp can i just restore a backup or flash a rom and then its all good or do you have to do a complete reset, unlock etc.
also i saw zedo's video start this but didn't mention how sucessful it was. can you backup ubuntu via twrp and restore it whenever? this isn't really important to me but its been in the back of my mind.
thanks in advance guys

This doesn't exactly answer your question, but I think you should give this a try: MultiROM
It lets you easily install Ubuntu alongside your current Android installation, and it's easy to uninstall too. I've been switching back and forth between Android and Ubuntu for a day now and have encountered zero issues.

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This doesn't exactly answer your question, but I think you should give this a try: MultiROM
It lets you easily install Ubuntu alongside your current Android installation, and it's easy to uninstall too. I've been switching back and forth between Android and Ubuntu for a day now and have encountered zero issues.
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cool! ill look into it. if anyone has answers to my original question tho that would be awesome to

I'm mostly guessing here, but couldn't you just use on of the Nexus Toolkits to revert to stock and flash recovery? Whichever recovery Ubuntu installs (why would it even install another one, I don't know), there must always be fastboot or flash option?

I installed it the other day. You lose everything. You could keep your nandroid on your PC. Or just install multi rom like mentioned above.
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