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[Verdict 10/11/11] MIUI vs Samsung ROMs (Non ASOP ones)

Alright after a week of testing. Heres the rundown.
Stock Features you will miss:
Enhanced Contacts.
Motion Gestures.
HW Accelerated Browser
The Cam. MIUI isnt as good.
Battery life.
MIUI features you will miss if you're hooked:
Firewall
Guard
App lock
Themes
UI. duh.
Elegance.
Overall verdict is wait a bit. MIUI can be better. The MIUI contacts isnt good either.

Oh and Stock Cam vs MIUI Cam.. whats better?

Use skifta instead of allshare and wi fi file explorer instead of kies.
Tw camera is better.
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Aldonski said:
Use skifta instead of allshare and wi fi file explorer instead of kies.
Tw camera is better.
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Thanks. Got Swype Beta working. Gotta check out TW Cam.

I think he meant touch wizard in TW camera. I would like this camera the hw accerated browser and tv out support in a miui hybrid rom.
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Im using Upnplay instead of allshare.
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There has to be some Pros and Cons in AOSP ROMs over Stock ROMs. Customisations, speedy UI etc are better but on the other hand there are some simple yet impotent things aren't available or buggy! Why would one buy Samsung on first place and then suddenly they want to get rid of Samsung junk? A little bit of iOS, little bit of Android, I hate it anyway.

I have frozen literally everything all the Samsung bloatware that can be frozen, i think ive used Kies like once, it's a crock of sh*t anyway buggy as hell, allshare is a serious battery drainer too, why do people still use this rubbish then complain about serious battery drainage?

I love all MIUI stuff but I dislike the battery draining, camera is not good and video playback is so poor 'cause Hw aceleration is not working... Ignoring that, I prefer a lot this even over the perfect stock rom, 'cause I can personalize everything.

I've had a look and play with miui and cm7 nightly #99 lately.
Still like Samsung's roms better. To me they just seem more polished. Camera, calendar, etc, add jkay mods in there too.
Also find music sounds better for me on Samsung roms. That surprised me.
I pick cm7 over miui by a mile.
I must be missing something about miui because i didnt see anything to make me use it over Samsung or cm7.
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Miui UI is better than stock...
Gotto wait until Miui rom fully functional only can compare i believe.

kyapkk said:
Miui UI is better than stock...
Gotto wait until Miui rom fully functional only can compare i believe.
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Cool ill take another look at it later.
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I am on Samsung rom because of contacts, I have personalized contacts in gmail and on miui only can see icons for the type of numbers of my contacts, in Samsung rom contacts app i can see personalized info about my contacts numbers
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I've tried CM7 and it's pretty nice especially with all of the themes and it is incredibly fast, however I love TouchWiz! Good Widgets, great camera app, smoothest launcher (IMO), and of course the best browser on any Android device.
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So I am still testing it and so far I like it. Gonna reply you all and update the main thread with opinion.
Aldonski said:
Use skifta instead of allshare and wi fi file explorer instead of kies.
Tw camera is better.
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I got Swype working. Good points, thanks.
seburn said:
I think he meant touch wizard in TW camera. I would like this camera the hw accerated browser and tv out support in a miui hybrid rom.
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Yeah, couldnt find TW Cam, thanks.
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Im using Upnplay instead of allshare.
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Thanks!
ithehappy said:
There has to be some Pros and Cons in AOSP ROMs over Stock ROMs. Customisations, speedy UI etc are better but on the other hand there are some simple yet impotent things aren't available or buggy! Why would one buy Samsung on first place and then suddenly they want to get rid of Samsung junk? A little bit of iOS, little bit of Android, I hate it anyway.
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Yeah, its a personal preference. Thats the point of this thread. Do we wanna lose functionality for looks?
jonny68 said:
I have frozen literally everything all the Samsung bloatware that can be frozen, i think ive used Kies like once, it's a crock of sh*t anyway buggy as hell, allshare is a serious battery drainer too, why do people still use this rubbish then complain about serious battery drainage?
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I know what you mean Same here.
badtzo said:
I love all MIUI stuff but I dislike the battery draining, camera is not good and video playback is so poor 'cause Hw aceleration is not working... Ignoring that, I prefer a lot this even over the perfect stock rom, 'cause I can personalize everything.
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Elaborate please. You got a point about HW acceleration. Ill look into it. Battery seems fine..
aceofclubs said:
I've had a look and play with miui and cm7 nightly #99 lately.
Still like Samsung's roms better. To me they just seem more polished. Camera, calendar, etc, add jkay mods in there too.
Also find music sounds better for me on Samsung roms. That surprised me.
I pick cm7 over miui by a mile.
I must be missing something about miui because i didnt see anything to make me use it over Samsung or cm7.
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You are missing some neat features. Wait for me to update my OP. Camera sucks. Agree.
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I am on Samsung rom because of contacts, I have personalized contacts in gmail and on miui only can see icons for the type of numbers of my contacts, in Samsung rom contacts app i can see personalized info about my contacts numbers
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Hmm, yeah you cant sort contacts. Good point.
Updating my OP.~
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I've tried CM7 and it's pretty nice especially with all of the themes and it is incredibly fast, however I love TouchWiz! Good Widgets, great camera app, smoothest launcher (IMO), and of course the best browser on any Android device.
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[*]The easy screenshots like iOS.
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About this, in MIUI you just have to press volume down+menu. Pretty easy IMO...
About everything else im with you, but let me add one more con about MIUI: Call recording doenst work. Not the stock app but neither "CallRecorder" app.
Since this is an important feature for me, I hope they manage to fixed it because I really like MIUI.

Every now and then, i fill that urge to try MIUI or Cyanogen, and after a day or two, i am back to Samsung ROMs ...
1.I've been modifying my framework and TW launcher since my i9000 and i have made my personal setup from it
2.Video codecs support, although recently i've found Dice player who looks extremely capable, even more than the default one
3.The small little things, like brightness swipe on status bar, call and message swipe on contacts and some others that doesn't come to mind right now
4.Like someone else stated, i also like the cohesion of the stock ROM
There are some things that always bothered me that Samsung doesn't implement in it's ROMs like percentage battery and BLN. I mean, those are are easy to do, add functionality and they blend well with stock ..., but luckily, this is Android and we can do it ourselves .

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Now that MIUI have officially launched the S2 ROM. I tried it. I used to use the Litening ROM. So far there have been PROS and CONS. Some neat features that I love that I dont wanna go back. But there are some minor things which I can't live without either.
I will be updating this thread with Pro and Cons with you guys support.
Stock ROM features I miss:
The Motion Gestures. In Gallery and on Launcher. I think that was TouchWiz 4.0... right?
Kies and AllShare. I would love to have those two. SGS2 is the only Android device out there with DLNA support and would be a shame to cut it out. --There are alternatives. WifiFile Explorer. And Upnplay.
The easy screenshots like iOS.
Swype support. I sideloaded Swype but looks like I cant switch themes. And the Official Swype installer on MIUI says the resolution isn't supported. Weird. -- It works.
The Camera App. For some weird reason I think the MIUI Cam has flaws. -- Still looking for an alternative. Gonna checkout TW Camera.
And this may be stupid but MIUI doesnt show H+ icons. Just H. (Network icon) -- Think themes can fix this.
MIUI Features I love:
The torch. Pretty neat, you can use it by pressing the Home Button.
The UI and themes. Obvious
The Music App Lyrics
You can lock specific apps. And even hide them.
The Guard feature. Now I can give my phone to anyone w/o worrying bout them snooping.
Status: Back to Stock. MIUI has Battery drain issues.
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There are alot of devices come with DLNA. Atrix for example.
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SilentRazor said:
Now that MIUI have officially launched the S2 ROM. I tried it. I used to use the Litening ROM. So far there have been PROS and CONS. Some neat features that I love that I dont wanna go back. But there are some minor things which I can't live without either.
I will be updating this thread with Pro and Cons with you guys support.
Stock ROM features I miss:
The Motion Gestures. In Gallery and on Launcher. I think that was TouchWiz 4.0... right?
Kies and AllShare. I would love to have those two. SGS2 is the only Android device out there with DLNA support and would be a shame to cut it out. --There are alternatives. WifiFile Explorer. And Upnplay.
The easy screenshots like iOS.
Swype support. I sideloaded Swype but looks like I cant switch themes. And the Official Swype installer on MIUI says the resolution isn't supported. Weird. -- It works.
The Camera App. For some weird reason I think the MIUI Cam has flaws. -- Still looking for an alternative. Gonna checkout TW Camera.
And this may be stupid but MIUI doesnt show H+ icons. Just H. (Network icon) -- Think themes can fix this.
MIUI Features I love:
The torch. Pretty neat, you can use it by pressing the Home Button.
The UI and themes. Obvious
The Music App Lyrics
You can lock specific apps. And even hide them.
The Guard feature. Now I can give my phone to anyone w/o worrying bout them snooping.
Status: Back to Stock. MIUI has Battery drain issues.
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and the only thing stock vs Miui i care is the internet browser in stock rom that comes with hardware accelerated. And also the long press edit for search is imssing in MIUI.

What I can't live without is the to out support via MHL missing from all aosp roms.
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4ltair said:
Every now and then, i fill that urge to try MIUI or Cyanogen, and after a day or two, i am back to Samsung ROMs ...
1.I've been modifying my framework and TW launcher since my i9000 and i have made my personal setup from it
2.Video codecs support, although recently i've found Dice player who looks extremely capable, even more than the default one
3.The small little things, like brightness swipe on status bar, call and message swipe on contacts and some others that doesn't come to mind right now
4.Like someone else stated, i also like the cohesion of the stock ROM
There are some things that always bothered me that Samsung doesn't implement in it's ROMs like percentage battery and BLN. I mean, those are are easy to do, add functionality and they blend well with stock ..., but luckily, this is Android and we can do it ourselves .
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I am with you there. I am back to stock as well and am working on modifying the framework.

Touchwiz appreciation thread.

Is it just me, or is touchwiz on a tablet actually really nice :L
i know it slows the tab down, but the widgets icons and notification bar r really minimalist and generally not bad looking!
And the fact that stock touchwiz hc roms come with polaris office and a pen memo means that i dont really mind the occasional lag it has :L
Im also looking forward to the ics touchwiz build aswell.
Does anyone agree with me?
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Is it just me, or is touchwiz on a tablet actually really nice :L
i know it slows the tab down, but the widgets icons and notification bar r really minimalist and generally not bad looking!
And the fact that stock touchwiz hc roms come with polaris office and a pen memo means that i dont really mind the occasional lag it has :L
Im also looking forward to the ics touchwiz build aswell.
Does anyone agree with me?
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Wow dude. This is bold. I don't totally disagree with you (in fact, I don't have much of an opinion one way or another), but you're definitely in the minority around here... I'll apologize in advance for the nonsense flames you'll get for posting this.

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Wow dude. This is bold. I don't totally disagree with you (in fact, I don't have much of an opinion one way or another), but you're definitely in the minority around here... I'll apologize in advance for the nonsense flames you'll get for posting this.
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Yeah that's the thing though, a while I understand touchwiz on a phone is ugly. On a tablet its actually nice. :L they (samsung) havent done that much in terms of looks with tw, which is gd.
So yeah, bring on the trolls

I don't really see it. I have been using touching HC 3.2 for as long as I have the tablet. I just recently installed touchwiz-less ICS and now never want to go back to touching. I do not miss polarised office at all since it doesn't work with swiftkey tablet x, and ihave replaced pen memo with quill, which was only 20 cents. But I guess tastes are different...

Localhorst86 said:
I don't really see it. I have been using touching HC 3.2 for as long as I have the tablet. I just recently installed touchwiz-less ICS and now never want to go back to touching. I do not miss polarised office at all since it doesn't work with swiftkey tablet x, and ihave replaced pen memo with quill, which was only 20 cents. But I guess tastes are different...
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Fair enough mate.
I can understand why u dont like touchwiz, and i know ics is amazing.
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Well, there are a few things I didn't like about TW:
1. Bright settings menu. The whole tab felt that it should have a dark theme and in most places it did. But then there was the settings menu that feels out of place.
2. The statusbar is annoying. I don't know how often I accidentally made a Screenshot when I didn't want to. Or brought up the pop up bar which contains alps I never use.

Localhorst86 said:
Well, there are a few things I didn't like about TW:
1. Bright settings menu. The whole tab felt that it should have a dark theme and in most places it did. But then there was the settings menu that feels out of place.
2. The statusbar is annoying. I don't know how often I accidentally made a Screenshot when I didn't want to. Or brought up the pop up bar which contains alps I never use.
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Ok yeh i get it about the settings. But the screenshot button is useful. And im sure in the newer versions of tw u can have custom apps in the pop up bar?
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2. Or brought up the pop up bar which contains alps I never use.
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is there a way to change those apps on the pop up bar? That would actually be useful if you could customize that.

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is there a way to change those apps on the pop up bar? That would actually be useful if you could customize that.
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I vaguely remember seeing the gtab 7.7 having the option to edit the pop up bar...
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Ok yeh i get it about the settings. But the screenshot button is useful. And im sure in the newer versions of tw u can have custom apps in the pop up bar?
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Having a Screenshot function available is nice, but I agree. But I prefer the way the ICS Rom I am using implements it: hidden in the power menu. I mean, why would you need it readily available at all times?

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Having a Screenshot function available is nice, but I agree. But I prefer the way the ICS Rom I am using implements it: hidden in the power menu. I mean, why would you need it readily available at all times?
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Im not sure that stock ics has the screenshot function in the power menu. Its only added in later on through custom roms and tweaks such as enabling it in rom control :L
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Yeah, but in the same respect I am not even sure if the things I complain about a HC or TW features

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Yeah, but in the same respect I am not even sure if the things I complain about a HC or TW features
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Haha fair enough. Tbh HC was a bit of a fail on googles part. It felt rushed and ill prepared. Hopefully ics will iron out everything.
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Im not sure that stock ics has the screenshot function in the power menu. Its only added in later on through custom roms and tweaks such as enabling it in rom control :L
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nah its there by default in ics
its one of ics main selling points
btw for the record i love touchwiz just because of the extra features like mini apps
the ui hasnt really affected me as i probs only have had my tab with stocktouchwiz theme for about 2 weeks when i got it

BroBot175 said:
nah its there by default in ics
its one of ics main selling points
btw for the record i love touchwiz just because of the extra features like mini apps
the ui hasnt really affected me as i probs only have had my tab with stocktouchwiz theme for about 2 weeks when i got it
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Whoops my bad xD haha yes the calculator and task manager r soo useful
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Honeycomb is a very good concept but a "beta version" software: slow, laggy, unstable and incomplete in several ways... I got my G.Tab 10.1 in January and 2 weeks later I flashed (and kept updated ever since) ICS KANG and loving it.
That said, I do like the added Samsung apps and functionality (on both my Note and my G.Tab 10.1) so as soon as it comes out I will flash Samsung's ICS update.
The Note is already great as it is on the latest LB1 Gingerbread ROM so I don't mind waiting a little more for ICS BUT I really can't wait to get Samsung's ICS ROM for the Tab 10.1 and pretty pissed off that they can't seem to be able to give a less vague date.
I hope they make it up to me by adding the split screen funcionality shown off on the Note 10.1 and a revamped note app which syncs across my Note's S Memo app and Outlook notes..

I think touchwiz on 3.X is amazing, really improves the experience. I cringe whenever I see the stock notification bar (I have to open it, hit settings and then hit settings again to actually open the settings compared to open it and hit settings once in touchwiz).

If touchwiz is that amazing, what's HTC sense? Sense is great on both phones and tabs. Look at the HTC jetstream, HTC did a much better job then Samsung.

I don't mind Touchwiz. I like some of the little extras, etc. Stock Honeycomb is still fugly so TW helps a tad, but since it's so light, not much. ICS is a huge improvement on phones, but not so much in tablets. It's bascially what Honeycomb should have been in the first place.
I'd rather have HTC Sense, but since HTC never had any good wifi tablets last year, it just wasn't in the cards. I will say, the GT 10.1 has been a good tablet and does everything I need it to do, but I won't be buying anymore Samsung products like.... um.... Ever. My next tab will be W8 and probably from Asus or something.

I have never liked HTC Sense at all, Touchwiz is a great compromise between adding functionality and staying as close as possible at the "Android experience" (which keeps on getting better and better). Ideally I would like to have a consistent experience across all Android devices with, at best, "touches" added by the different makers and design and hardware to differentiate among them. Sense goes totally against this.

Will Galaxy Note Get Update TouchWiz 5

Samsung Galaxy S3 announced. It is covered by butter smooth Touchwiz 5. Will we get the touchwiz 5 throuh future firmwire update? Whats your opinion.

lol firstly we need to get ics update with samsung software developing style maybe next year we will get touchwiz 5 ;D

Doubtful.
TW5 may be a bit of a bigger departure, ux wise, than TW4, which is one REASON Samsung wouldn't want to hoist something different on their existing user base.
TW5 is also designed for new, specific sensors and other hardware available on SGS3 - so it would have to be a port for existing Note and SGS2. Similar to how HTC devices without ImageSense chip cannot ever be upgraded to Sense 4, only Sense 3.6.
Finally, Samsung would want to dangle TW5 software features for the Note's successor instead of spending time and money and backporting it over.
So, no - I wouldn't hold my breath for official TW5 upgrade. I'm sure our talented devs will port some of the features over, though.
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I'm gonna remove it immediately after I flash final ICS release. Touch**** is the worse launcher I ever see. Apex launcher is perfect for me.

As far as i remember all previous tw launchers used to be butter smooth in preview videos,but so laggy in reality!!!
No need for this [email protected]££t
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I don't know, but I'll be royally pissed if our Notes don't get ICS before the S3 is available for purchase.

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I don't know, but I'll be royally pissed if our Notes don't get ICS before the S3 is available for purchase.
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God save the Cyanogenom team
i dont care about sambloatware :banghead:
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Touchjizz..? No thanks..

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God save the Cyanogenom team
i dont care about sambloatware :banghead:
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Still, a new official Kernel means new cooked roms from official ICS. I personally can't wait.
Since the leaked bricks and imilka discontinuing his roms the dev section got real boring/quiet for me and I can't wait for official so that it will wake back up.
CM9 is awesome but choices/flavors/etc are always fun and not everyone likes the feature set of CM9 (I do, just saying).
For example I always preferred Coredroid over CM7 with my Inspire
As far as TouchWiz goes, I laugh at all the TW haters. I LOVE CM9 on the note, its way faster. That said, I can't stand EVERY launcher out there other than TW/AOSP when it comes to Samsung phones. The app drawer load time and smoothness on TW blows ADW/GO/Apex/etc out of the water. Every single time I try another launcher and enjoy some of its features or styles I get so aggrivated with the slow app drawer and end up going back. Don't get me wrong there are plenty of things I don't like about TW and plenty of things I love about Apex/ADW but the app drawer load time alone is enough to drive me insane.

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I tried out imilka's CM9 for a week, and while it was good, I was missing the S-pen, so I went back to stock.

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Still, a new official Kernel means new cooked roms from official ICS. I personally can't wait.
Since the leaked bricks and imilka discontinuing his roms the dev section got real boring/quiet for me and I can't wait for official so that it will wake back up.
CM9 is awesome but choices/flavors/etc are always fun and not everyone likes the feature set of CM9 (I do, just saying).
For example I always preferred Coredroid over CM7 with my Inspire
As far as TouchWiz goes, I laugh at all the TW haters. I LOVE CM9 on the note, its way faster. That said, I can't stand EVERY launcher out there other than TW/AOSP when it comes to Samsung phones. The app drawer load time and smoothness on TW blows ADW/GO/Apex/etc out of the water. Every single time I try another launcher and enjoy some of its features or styles I get so aggrivated with the slow app drawer and end up going back. Don't get me wrong there are plenty of things I don't like about TW and plenty of things I love about Apex/ADW but the app drawer load time alone is enough to drive me insane.
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Try TSF shell, the smoothness is unreal on the Note.

It'll probably be ported over.

leppo said:
I tried out imilka's CM9 for a week, and while it was good, I was missing the S-pen, so I went back to stock.
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Spen works fine with cm9.The button of spen dont work,but i dont care for this functionality.Also catch notes with the catch add on is a very good replacement of s memo
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Samsung won't offer TouchWiz UX on Note, stop dreaming.
However, CM9 and opensource can bring it to you. Check http://opendesign.blamesamsung.org/

I think that is TW5 one of the selling points for SGS3,so... probably not.
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Try TSF shell, the smoothness is unreal on the Note.
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Thanks for the tip, will do.
Edit: Bah, maybe not. $17 is a lot considering my disliking for every launcher I have tried so far lol.

I honestly believe the few recommending the super expensive TSF are the devs doing some sneaky advertising...
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youre kidding, right?
in the history of touchwiz (which predates android, btw) no phone has ever gone from one version to the next. what is comes with is what it stays with.

You don't need to worry about TouchWiz 5 coming to our Notes, because it won't!

crawlgsx said:
As far as TouchWiz goes, I laugh at all the TW haters. I LOVE CM9 on the note, its way faster. That said, I can't stand EVERY launcher out there other than TW/AOSP when it comes to Samsung phones. The app drawer load time and smoothness on TW blows ADW/GO/Apex/etc out of the water. Every single time I try another launcher and enjoy some of its features or styles I get so aggrivated with the slow app drawer and end up going back. Don't get me wrong there are plenty of things I don't like about TW and plenty of things I love about Apex/ADW but the app drawer load time alone is enough to drive me insane.
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I don't understand the hate about TouchWiz. It's so smooth and fast compared to Go Launcher or Nemus Launcher, that both are little laggy. Go launcher has the best features, but when it lags, it lags and i don't want my launcher to lag. TW all the way!
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why do so many of you hate TouchWiz? TouchWiz is amazing!

i see thread after thread just spewing out hate for touchwiz..
how can so many of you not like touchwiz, lemme correct that *HATE touchwiz... i realize its the hip thing to do, to hate touchwiz, and you somehow think it makes you look pro, or cool, or like you know what youre talking about, but touchwiz rocks.. most of you havent even seen what the alternative is, you just hate it cause everyone else does.
do you realize losing touchwiz loses:
*built in screen capture by pressing home+lock
*task manager built into long press
*swipe left/right to call/text in contacts/dialer/texts
*toggles in drop down menu
*amazing UI in camera/file manager/ music player
*ability to adjust display options, beyond what stock roms are capable of
*swype
* ability to adjust brightness by moving dropbar back and forth
* the option to use the actual touchwiz launcher
* Divx, Xvid, and .avi support out of the box, as well as other formats supported only by samsung
*S-Voice
*Eye Tracking
*Smart Stay, keeps the screen awake while you're looking at the display
*Popup Play
its not like having a stock rom gives you anything in place of these.. if you dont like the touchwiz launcher, you can install another one, nova, apex, go, adw, adw ex, i cant see why ppl are soo determined to get rid of it, and have nothing in its place. would you really rather have no options, in place of where you DID have options?

answer now is not anymore or don't hate it that much anymore.

I don't hate the touch wize, I hate the touchwize launcher and i miss all my touchwize apps, I actually wish I could have to touchwize framework on my custome ics rom just with a another launcher
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If you dont change to an AOSP ROM, only change the launcher, you dont loose those features, right

The bulk of what you mention can be built in to custom ROMs
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If you dont change to an AOSP ROM, only change the launcher, you dont loose those features, right
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Right, but I am on a aosp rom, and sadly tw is not enough to make me leave it.
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The bulk of what you mention can be built in to custom ROMs
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The day I find one for my phone I'll let u know
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The day I find one for my phone I'll let u know
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What phone do you have
I was in CyanogenMod before ICS, now back to Samsung based ROM, but I replaced the bad AOSP apps, like phone and SMS with others from the market as nice or nicer than TW´s

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What phone do you have
I was in CyanogenMod before ICS, now back to Samsung based ROM, but I replaced the bad AOSP apps, like phone and SMS with others from the market as nice or nicer than TW´s
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I got the Samsung GS I know about the market replacements but I want the organal, so far I got the clock and the task manger to work on my dark Knight 5.5, I am gonna try s voice tomorrow
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I really am hoping that I will like the new version of Touchwiz! If I can change the icons in the dock and on the homescreens as well as the size of the grid on the homescreen, then I see myself using it on my phone. If I can't do both of those things, then I'm using Apex.
I don't want to stare at the default dock icons all day long, they are way too cartoony and colorful for me. But yeah, if I can change ALL the icons in Touchwiz, slap a nice and dark wallpaper on there and get some Metrostation/Minimal Text goodness going... I would LOVE to use Touchwiz, because I always try to install as few third-party apps and stuff on my phones. I'm just afraid that it won't allow me the level of customization that I want. Lucky for me Android is about options, so I can have an alternative launcher on my phone within 2 minutes if I want.
So for me it's not about trying to be cool and hip. Those things come naturally to me.
And correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think ditching Touchwiz will affect like half of the things on your little list there?
EDIT: Task manager, swiping left/right in contacts, drop down toggles, camera UI, swype, brightness control, popup play and certainly Divx, Xvid, and .avi support... I don't see those being controlled by what launcher you use? I could be wrong though

Most of that stuff isnt anything to do with TW at all. Most of it is in stand alone apps that will work whether you use TW as a launcher or not. I will be using Apex launcher and i will still have all the Samsung extras.
AOSP, Cyanogen and AOKP ROMS are over rated, most are slower than custom ROMs based on Samsung stock, they have missing or broken features and are often unstable. I dont see the point in getting a phone like the S3 and putting inferior software on it, why not just buy a Nexus to start with? The best ROMs are custom ROMs based on stock, optimised and free of the truly useless bloat.

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Most of that stuff isnt anything to do with TW at all. Most of it is in stand alone apps that will work whether you use TW as a launcher or not. I will be using Apex launcher and i will still have all the Samsung extras.
AOSP, Cyanogen and AOKP ROMS are over rated, most are slower than custom ROMs based on Samsung stock, they have missing or broken features and are often unstable. I dont see the point in getting a phone like the S3 and putting inferior software on it, why not just buy a Nexus to start with? The best ROMs are custom ROMs based on stock, optimised and free of the truly useless bloat.
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I agree but I have to go aosp to have ics on my phone
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I will continue using GO EX launcher, it does everything I like, no reason to change

have seen this same thread title somewhere else...

bala_gamer said:
have seen this same thread title somewhere else...
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Yeah...
OP why do you feel the need to post the same thread here? Is it because no-one's posted for a few days on the one you've got in the S2 forum
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Yeah, identical thread started by the same OP in the SGS2 i9100 forum.
Silliness.
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The codec support is definatly the best and I love the small things they added like the customizable battery percentage, extended toggles in the pulldown, newsticker on the lockscreen, shortcuts on the lockscreen etc.. it seems like they let you customize alot and I think you can really tell they hired someone from the CM team.
The new touchwiz also looks pretty good, I really like that they use 5 icons now. The appdrawer looks great and the plain black pulldown also looks nice. I think it looks very grown up now and even though it's using popping colours I don't find it too tacky or cartoonish like many others. I can't stand the "buhuhuhu they ruined the beauty of stock ICS buhhuhuhuhu" comments anymore it might not be "eyecandy" like sense which btw. I find extremly ugly but it is super smooth, compareable with iOS, it's minimalistic and not too overloaded.
The browser in gingerbread was crushing pretty much everything. It kinda sucks on ICS ATM, but seeing some videos it seems like it's fixed on the S3. Chrome comes close but it's still so buggy and lacks features. Samsung still has the smoothest browser, thats for sure...

rovex said:
Most of that stuff isnt anything to do with TW at all. Most of it is in stand alone apps that will work whether you use TW as a launcher or not. I will be using Apex launcher and i will still have all the Samsung extras.
AOSP, Cyanogen and AOKP ROMS are over rated, most are slower than custom ROMs based on Samsung stock, they have missing or broken features and are often unstable. I dont see the point in getting a phone like the S3 and putting inferior software on it, why not just buy a Nexus to start with? The best ROMs are custom ROMs based on stock, optimised and free of the truly useless bloat.
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Absolutely not true! CM is probably one of the most stable aosp roms. It will provide you (after some time passed for development) with superior performance, battery life and sometimes options like ui themes etc.
This is fact, not just user experience... but for everyone the roms they prefer the most. Personally looking forward to have dualboot and cm9 as primary rom...
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Absolutely not true! CM is probably one of the most stable aosp roms. It will provide you (after some time passed for development) with superior performance, battery life and sometimes options like ui themes etc.
This is fact, not just user experience... but for everyone the roms they prefer the most. Personally looking forward to have dualboot and cm9 as primary rom...
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Sorry, but on my S2 Cyanogen 9 sucks compared to the custom ROM/Siyah kernel combo im using. I tried it.

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Yeah, identical thread started by the same OP in the SGS2 i9100 forum.
Silliness.
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not true, i added exclamation marks! lol

AOSP themed TouchWiz Dream ROM

My "Dream ROM" for the Note 4 would be:
*Rooted
*Knox removed
*CyanogenMod style theming
*Samsung and Sprint bloatware removed (accept for Facebook sync)
*TouchWiz apps (calendar, messaging, phone, clock, calculator, lockscreen, notification quick settings) replaced with CyanogenMod versions
I am definitely willing to test but lack the skill to compile.
Anyone want to try?

i feel like you picked the wrong phone for that..

Why? I have suggested a TouchWiz rom that just looks like AOSP. Taking the best features of this phone (embodied in TouchWiz functions) and adding the apps of AOSP.

I'm sure there will be CyanogenMod based ROMs for this device but they will lack the expanding Windows that work great on this ROM.

Sounds like you want a different launcher. Try Nova

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Sounds like you want a different launcher. Try Nova
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No.
I was specific with what I want.
I already use another launcher.

Just saying Nova can give the AOSP look. *shrug*

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Just saying Nova can give the AOSP look. *shrug*
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Respectfully, it is not the look, but the interface of those apps that I like better.

Probably better to wait for cm11 to be made official for the Sprint Note 4. Hopefully it happens.

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Probably better to wait for cm11 to be made official for the Sprint Note 4. Hopefully it happens.
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Ordinarily, with most phones, I'd absolutely agree with you.
I flashed CyanogenMod based ROMs for every android I've ever had. In fact I was glad to get rid of TouchWiz for my Galaxies S2 and S3.
However, with this beast, I wouldn't want to give up the S-Note stylus features, floating windows, or one handed mode.
With xposed, I could duplicate the floating windows (x-halo) and split screen view.
But I wouldn't be able to duplicate a lot of the S-Note features (some maybe but not most), lots of the camera features, or one handed mode.
Further, the battery optimization on this phone is phenomenal and I have found the CM based ROMs aren't usually as good.

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Ordinarily, with most phones, I'd absolutely agree with you.
I flashed CyanogenMod based ROMs for every android I've ever had. In fact I was glad to get rid of TouchWiz for my Galaxies S2 and S3.
However, with this beast, I wouldn't want to give up the S-Note stylus features, floating windows, or one handed mode.
With xposed, I could duplicate the floating windows (x-halo) and split screen view.
But I wouldn't be able to duplicate a lot of the S-Note features (some maybe but not most), lots of the camera features, or one handed mode.
Further, the battery optimization on this phone is phenomenal and I have found the CM based ROMs aren't usually as good.
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Agreed. With flashing cm11, there are some trade offs. For me I like the smoothness of cm11 compared to Touch Wiz.

DarkManX4lf said:
Agreed. With flashing cm11, there are some trade offs. For me I like the smoothness of cm11 compared to Touch Wiz.
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I agree the smoothness is great, now we just CM11 on the Note 4.

We will soon
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Did I mention I Beta test?

I am working on this right now If everything goes smooth I will have an AOSP Themed Touch Wiz Rom ready

Totally agree with you. CM11 and 12 are great roms, but I love using the s pen as well as the s health and s note apps.