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ICS -v- Task 14 /\ My Review

I have seen a lot of talk lately with people comparing the ICS development ROM's to Task 14.. I have been swapping back and forth almost daily between AOKP #23 and Task 14 Slim so here are my thoughts..
1st of all both are awesome ROM's that offer plusses and minuses depending on what each individual wants and needs.. These observations are based on MY wants and needs so opinions will vary.. The fact that Task 14, a HC 3.2 ROM even gets mentioned / compared to an ICS ROM speaks volumes about how good it is..
Things I like about AOKP #23:
--Browser hardware acceleration
--No screenshot soft key (I loathe that thing)
--ROM Control
--Ability to set # of homescreens
--Swipe to dismiss
Things I like about Task 14:
--Rock solid and stable
--Camera works for video chat
--Just as fast as ICS in many areas and faster in some
--Mini widgets
--Several awesome themes available
The AOKP is actually pretty stable for the most part and Roman and team have done an awesome job on it but remember it's a beta so there is issues and bugs at the time of this posting.. Task 14 is super rock solid and its really only limited by HC 3.2..
I honestly can't decide which I like better.. They both ROCK! I guess that's why I change between them daily..
A few AOKP issues I have is with apps and the screen.. Words with friends is a good example of this.. Also, the screen gets a little glitchy at times when viewing online images.. Nothing major and by no means a put down on AOKP...
I have had zero issues on Task 14 that are not widespread HC 3.2 related..
If you can live without the camera and are willing to experience a few minor bugs here and there then the AOKP may be for you.. If however you want rock solid with zero bugs, a working camera and a system that is just as fast then Task 14 may be for you..
These are MY thoughts and comparison of 2 kick a$$ ROM's... Thoughts and replies are welcome but please don't turn this thread into a pi$$ing match...

You're just asking for a pissing match. I'll just watch... for now...:sly:
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I hope not since they are both awesome ROM's...

I've tried ics, very fast and smooth without touchwiz is a godsend. There is only one 3g ics rom so I have not tried romanb's yet. 3g is a big deal to me. Other thing with isc is no proper USB/mass storage support. It does not show all files that I've downloaded from net except whatever files I transferred to tab. Camera is another big issue for me, or lack of. Video does not work also from the rom I tried. Some apps on market not supported also so cant update. That's my summary of isc. HC3.2 on the other hand is improving. I have not tried Task as again no 3g. I'm a big fan of Alterbridge and his Overcome roms. Been using his rom since the original Tab. His latest 2.3.0 soup up with pershoot kernel is more than great for me. ISC is great but for my daily usage, its not ready yet.
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raqball said:
I hope not since they are both awesome ROM's...
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Just wait its coming bro...
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I do realize this is XDA but I guess I hope we all will act like adults and that this mini review will help anyone who can't choose between these 2 awesome ROM's.. Heck I'm having a hard time choosing.. The OP was made on Task 14 and this post is getting made on AOKP..

Good comparsion between the two. Personally, I use Task14 with b00sted's ICS theme. No ICS can compare to it right now, but once the camera issue is solved, ICS will be boss.
All us Task fans are hoping for a Task ICS ROM soon.
BTW, good thread OP.

A Task ICS ROM will be awesome once it comes.. I'm back on the AOKP for this morning as least..

I think we scared off the ones that would have made this a pissing match. Good.
BTW- nice OP.
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How can you compare Android 4.0 (No official release and by the way in Alpha state) and Android 3.2?

donniezazen said:
How can you compare Android 4.0 (No official release and by the way in Alpha state) and Android 3.2?
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He is comparing what is available today. The OP is well aware that ICS is in development but he is looking for a daily driver and was looking for others opinions on what we use.
Until ICS is official there is no way to do a 1 for 1 comparison.

donniezazen said:
How can you compare Android 4.0 (No official release and by the way in Alpha state) and Android 3.2?
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It's easy.. I use them both daily and figured my post might help others who are on the fence or not sure which to use..
Anything can be compared.. Pinto -v- Corvette or Blonde -v- Brunette ect....

donniezazen said:
How can you compare Android 4.0 (No official release and by the way in Alpha state) and Android 3.2?
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Easy you try them both and yes ics is alpha but thats what is available now and is the point of this thread. I came to the same conclusion as the OP after using both kang versions. the arguably incremental improvement in smoothness does not outweigh the full functionality goodness of galaxytask
Adding Visidon even gives me face unlock features and with camera ics+ i get the camera panorama functionality on my galaxy task rom
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ICS ........... almost stable!
donniezazen said:
How can you compare Android 4.0 (No official release and by the way in Alpha state) and Android 3.2?
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Even though it is supposed to be alpha (since the Camera mainly does not work and there are also some minor bugs), it is quite stable for daily use as I myself use it and the best part is there are some amazing customisation options ..... literally mind blowing!

Thanks for the review. Still haven't custom rom'd it up yet.
When does the official ics come out?

i have found that the battery in the latest ICS kangs (not the one on XDA as that doesnt get updated! but the one on rootzwiki) is by far lots better than any HC.
So indeed for an alpha release ICS is looking very good compare to an already establish HC rom.
So I can only imagine how good ICS will be when SS releases it...hopefully in April..
bit OT interesting that there are no leaks yet from samfirmware!

nandihno said:
i have found that the battery in the latest ICS kangs (not the one on XDA as that doesnt get updated! but the one on rootzwiki)
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Romanbb is constantly updating the AOKP...

wtgserpant said:
Even though it is supposed to be alpha (since the Camera mainly does not work and there are also some minor bugs), it is quite stable for daily use as I myself use it and the best part is there are some amazing customisation options ..... literally mind blowing!
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mind blowing? seriously? did you just come from using my Packard bell 286 from the back of my closest? Just kidding. But mind blowing compared to what? stock?
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Benzoman said:
mind blowing? seriously? did you just come from using my Packard bell 286 from the back of my closest? Just kidding. But mind blowing compared to what? stock?
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Lol im with benzoman on this one...
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Benzoman said:
mind blowing? seriously? did you just come from using my Packard bell 286 from the back of my closest? Just kidding. But mind blowing compared to what? stock?
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Agree as well... ICS is not mind blowing and is only slightly snappier than Taks 14 in some areas..

Just installed 4.0.3 but still looks the same as gingerbead??

I've just installed the ics ROM from Craver UK site. They have a link to download the very latest ROM from the nexus phones. I was expecting the black and blue theme that I've using in CM9. Can anyone help or is this correct?

Not sure what you're expecting here. Samsung does not follow the stock ICS mentality, they will always add Touchwiz on top of Android. If it looks IDENTICAL to Gingerbread, then you didn't flash the right ROM... There are SOME differences between Samsung ICS and Samsung Gingerbread.
and also, this could have easily been posted in one of the multiple pre-existing threads for ICS.

+ any Samsung ICS roms in the wild are only leaked beta test roms .
jje

The black and blue theme is unique to CM roms, it's not a standard on pure ICS or Samsung ICS Most of the look and feel of the Samsung ICS roms are the same as gingerbread
However if you look at the settings it's clearly different from gingerbread roms

Thanks for your comments, I've decided to use Resurrection Remix one instead and its defiantly allot better more stable.
Thanks again.

Should of stuck with cm9, all samsung roms will look like the current gingerbread ones.

lol... i bought a samsung galaxy s2, but it still looks like samsung galaxy s2... y doesnt it look like galaxy nexus?

If all you care about is the looks, then just simply change your theme and call it a day.
ICS is different to GB. Is it better ? Well that remains to be seen.
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ultramic said:
If all you care about is the looks, then just simply change your theme and call it a day.
ICS is different to GB. Is it better ? Well that remains to be seen.
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I think ICS is better than GB, theoretically with lower consumption

rathian said:
lol... i bought a samsung galaxy s2, but it still looks like samsung galaxy s2... y doesnt it look like galaxy nexus?
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lol! some time ago i read that the Samsung ICS will come with the Touchwiz and the Holo Theme, so you can choose... Well, hasn't been the case with all the betas up til now...

spotlight79 said:
lol! some time ago i read that the Samsung ICS will come with the Touchwiz and the Holo Theme, so you can choose... Well, hasn't been the case with all the betas up til now...
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If you decompile the systemui.apk, in the bools XML I believe there's a part that says use touchwiz UI and it's set to "true". I wonder if this can be changed to false so our phones will use the standard ics interface. I just can't figure out how to recompile it without it force closing... lol
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>samsung bloated rom
deal with it

kyleforge said:
If you decompile the systemui.apk, in the bools XML I believe there's a part that says use touchwiz UI and it's set to "true". I wonder if this can be changed to false so our phones will use the standard ics interface. I just can't figure out how to recompile it without it force closing... lol
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lol! well, if you do figure it out, let us know! i really don't believe that samsung will drop it's beloved touchwiz! lol

Lmao its most likely final rom will also be like this...samsung thinks users r too familiar with touchwiz so they may use it in ics rom as well
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kyleforge said:
If you decompile the systemui.apk, in the bools XML I believe there's a part that says use touchwiz UI and it's set to "true". I wonder if this can be changed to false so our phones will use the standard ics interface. I just can't figure out how to recompile it without it force closing... lol
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I doubt it's that easy. But hey, who knows! Only problem is they won't package Trebuchet with Touchwiz...

Just install Nova/Trebuchet launcher if you want it to "look" more like ICS. Nova is awesome.

spotlight79 said:
lol! some time ago i read that the Samsung ICS will come with the Touchwiz and the Holo Theme, so you can choose... Well, hasn't been the case with all the betas up til now...
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Thats a Google requirement for ICS. It's theme i.e color schemes etc nothing much to do with UI/Menus. Samsung can tweak UI all they want as long as they also bundle the Halo theme along with theirs.
It's been done so apps look same across devices.You won't be able to change some setting and get AOSP look.

You won't be able to change some setting and get AOSP look.
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Further info:
As an app developer you can choose between "DeviceDefault"-Theme and "Holo"-Theme. So it is up to the developers...BUT the app needs to be for 4.0 if it is for 2.3 the Holo settings meight confuse you phone, this means that the most developers will NEED to use the "DeviceDefault" cause that is what Gingerbread can also handle.

Samsung's Gingerbread didn't look at all like Google's Gingerbread, so I don't understand why people expect ICS to be any different...

stratost said:
I think ICS is better than GB, theoretically with lower consumption
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I have no doubt that ICS is better than GB period. The issue is how much will they screw it up trying to bring it across to the sgs2.
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Video of ICS LPQ Firmware running

So.. here's a video I made with screencast for those who are still waiting to flash the ROM and want to see whats in it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAzr0iYr5WQ&feature=g-upl&context=G2c496a4AUAAAAAAAAAA
I removed all of the useless apps using Anttek app manager from the market.
The widgets and wallpapers are exactly the same as the Gingerbread ROM
The bug when changing lockscreen wallpaper is still there
Edit: This is the general section, If you don't like my thread just don't comment and don't watch the video

Great.. was looking for this. thanks for the update

I am using ISC from yesterday and I think it is very useful!
I recommend to install this ROM

I'm using ICS for 2 months now, and I think this thread is ****.

Nice video, thank you for your work.

Thanks for the video but a new thread just for a video? ....
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Oh and btw Samsung Ics is a piece of crap. Slow as **** and worse than Gb. Cm9 is the best way to enjoy Ics...
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You're right... I'm using AOKP ROMs even if there are these bugs like broken MTP. There still better then the stock crap

I saw that pocketnow (website) also made a video on a S II running the official ICS. But after a few minutes, I got bored. Whenever I will flash my first ICS ROM, I will make it look like stock ICS. Samsung really shouldn't have kept the same old touchwiz...

XDA mark said:
Samsung really shouldn't have kept the same old touchwiz...
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I know where you're coming from, but I think Samsung would get a lot more grief if they fundamentally changed the launcher as part of the ICS upgrade.
Which makes more sense: keep the launcher the same and annoy a relatively small number of geeks (who have the knowledge required to install a replacement launcher anyway) or change the launcher and annoy the much larger group of "regular" users who treat the device as a tool rather than as a toy?

Your right but i think they should keep the look and feel of tw but add some more options to it. So that tw by itself is more customizable and so there is even no need for new and old users to search an alternative

Have been running ICS for a while now.. and it just slow down my device.. Offical ICS = ****
Thanks for the video!

Unofficially Official Rom

OK I have been reading threads in this forums and I'm sorta lost and annoyed. I read a thread saying that an official update for ICS can brick your phone so you need to do a full reset or something like that. I am confused as to why an official release 'might brick your phone' and I 'should proceed with cautions'. An official release of any OS should be stable and shouldn't cause such issues right?
I am pretty upset that ICS is still yet released for Galaxy Note, not talking about the prototype but the full software and still with the prototype it is 'risky' to update. Honestly I don't bother with custom OS, I prefer official releases and just have it rooted but now I am looking towards 'PARANOIDANDROID' rom, though I haven't flashed it because I'm waiting for it to be updated (so it can play MP4 and other stuff) but still its released faster than the official full ICS and has several features the android people should have added in the begining that are not added to ics. (Only one thing is PA doesn't have SNOTE which is kinda essential to the phone and I don't think the devs will add it) So because of this I also find it really dumb that our warranty is voided if we flash a custom firmware.
I am really confused as to what is happening and am I wrong at some part, can some one explain and post your thoughts about this topic. My point of this thread is just to ask about the 'may brick your phone' part and to see what you guys think about this entire thing with android and their prototypes instead of official releases and cfw. I truely blame android's (or samsung) latesness in releasing the OS for people opting for custom roms than sticking to the official ones. Android really has so much potential since it is 'open' unlike iOS but they are not bringing their A game to the table.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1662124

RochiWizz said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1662124
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I don't understand the whole thing but it's really scary and i'm now afraid to flash a CFW and i really wanna avoid bricking my phone. Can someone explain it more clearly, from what I understand if we flashed ICS leaks and flash back from recoveries we are bound to have issues??? Am i wrong, can someone explain??

AFAIK.... paranoid rom is cm9 based which is perfectly safe... so worth taking a shot...
Im on paranoid rom too... working great... going to try the updated version tonight

we are on the same page mate...
i prefer stock + root/cwm.... i really dont bother with custom rom...
and this bug is the biggest troll on gnote

thank you kvsandeepreddy for clearing up my doubts, I flashed v1 of PA but lacked a few stuff and am so glad to see v2, but I doubt you can play mp4 files on the stock video player as android needs to release their source code and I really need that feature and hate other players, but anyway hope they would fix it all soon and port SNOTE (which I don't think they will but I keep saying it)
musashiro, I suspect you are still on GB like me and honestly I don't think it's worth it waiting for Samsung to release ICS, first they don't have an exact date for the full release and even if they did release a full update now, PARANOIDANDROID has soo many features that ICS lacks and won't be added.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1662802
You can check this page out, it is the ROM, it's super cool and it's screen shots looks promising, also PA has both tablet and phone mode. I find it hypocritical when Samsung promoted the NOTE as a 'Phone? Table?' and force us with a phone mode indirectly making it a phone and making us the same as other normal phone owners when we clearly aren't. So PA sorta fixes it and gives us both phone and tablet mode making it truly a 'Phone? Table?' allowing us to chose which mode we want.

fabu09 said:
thank you kvsandeepreddy for clearing up my doubts, I flashed v1 of PA but lacked a few stuff and am so glad to see v2, but I doubt you can play mp4 files on the stock video player as android needs to release their source code and I really need that feature and hate other players, but anyway hope they would fix it all soon and port SNOTE (which I don't think they will but I keep saying it)
musashiro, I suspect you are still on GB like me and honestly I don't think it's worth it waiting for Samsung to release ICS, first they don't have an exact date for the full release and even if they did release a full update now, PARANOIDANDROID has soo many features that ICS lacks and won't be added.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1662802
You can check this page out, it is the ROM, it's super cool and it's screen shots looks promising, also PA has both tablet and phone mode. I find it hypocritical when Samsung promoted the NOTE as a 'Phone? Table?' and force us with a phone mode indirectly making it a phone and making us the same as other normal phone owners when we clearly aren't. So PA sorta fixes it and gives us both phone and tablet mode making it truly a 'Phone? Table?' allowing us to chose which mode we want.
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Mate for playing videos use mxplayer app from play store.... i ve been using this player from my first day... i dont even remember using the stock player.... controls are easy too...
And regarding the s pen and others it is not possible because they work only in touchwiz framework and the pa rom is based on cm9 which has nothing to do with samsung.... u can try an app called papyrus beta whic is far better than snote....
Personally i hate the official ics and dint even use it for a day...

kvsandeepreddy said:
Mate for playing videos use mxplayer app from play store.... i ve been using this player from my first day... i dont even remember using the stock player.... controls are easy too...
And regarding the s pen and others it is not possible because they work only in touchwiz framework and the pa rom is based on cm9 which has nothing to do with samsung.... u can try an app called papyrus beta whic is far better than snote....
Personally i hate the official ics and dint even use it for a day...
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I already currently use mxplayer, but I use it to only play .mov videos that I take using my iPad or iPod that I keep on my phone (home movies). I prefer the stock one as it has options for proper resize of videos and looks nice without ads. But thanks anyway for the suggestion and I will checkout papyrus, just hope that at least papyrus allows for proper backup, hope I enjoy PA just as much as you do (you seem like your having the time of your life with it)

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(you seem like your having the time of your life with it)
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Yep... that is true... thanks to imilka.... but also looking forward to stunnerz next release....

kvsandeepreddy said:
Yep... that is true... thanks to imilka.... but also looking forward to stunnerz next release....
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What rom is that?

fabu09 said:
What rom is that?
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That is the best rom ive used
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1552554
Check that link.... but i dont advise u to flash now that because it is based on lp6 kernel which is easily brickable... but u are safe until u wipe in cmw.... neobuddy(stunner rom creator) is building a new rom as we speak.....

kvsandeepreddy said:
That is the best rom ive used
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1552554
Check that link.... but i dont advise u to flash now that because it is based on lp6 kernel which is easily brickable... but u are safe until u wipe in cmw.... neobuddy(stunner rom creator) is building a new rom as we speak.....
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It's OK but from screen shots PA looks much more enticing than the stunner and since additionally you advised not to flash it now I will just stick to PA but Supernote looks cool, there is always something in every ROM that I want.... if only there was an ultimate ROM with everything.

fabu09 said:
It's OK but from screen shots PA looks much more enticing than the stunner and since additionally you advised not to flash it now I will just stick to PA but Supernote looks cool, there is always something in every ROM that I want.... if only there was an ultimate ROM with everything.
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Haha true... but not possible with some ppl liking the tw and others plain aosp etc

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Haha true... but not possible with some ppl liking the tw and others plain aosp etc
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Yea I guess your right, hard to please everyone. The entire aosp and aokp and others really confuse me but honestly from what I have seen so far, (alot of YouTube demos of roms) PA looks the best and the PAD on it is a big deal but I decided not to flash v0.2 yet and wait for some more updates as people are commenting on issues with battery and something about SD and internal cards being switched or something and other issues. I really want that rom but the issues people comment about are pretty crucial to be fixed especially battery so I guess I'll just wait for a more stable update. Is it wrong to say v1.0 is a real release and 0.2 is still beta??
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S II won't get the official ICS 4.0.4 Update

Guys,
This is so disappointing news.
http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entr...-4-0-4-Update-Only-Minor-FW-update-in-Q4-2012
I like to read yours opinions on this topic.

I smell custom ROMs
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Wrong forum for a start!

If so, the SGS2 was my last Samsung Android smartphone (except Nexus)...

fook 4.0.4, just give me 4.1...

Mizanur said:
fook 4.0.4, just give me 4.1...
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And that one will neither been develop for S II in this news...

You on crack?
How is this a dev topic?
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No offense but this is just a third party website. They don't even mention the source of these rumors. Nothing has been stated by samsung so far so there's no need to cry. To be honest I don't think that 4.0.4 will be some revolutionary step forward and thus I don't understand why we shouldn't get this update.

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If so, the SGS2 was my last Samsung Android smartphone (except Nexus)...
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Read some faqs, install custom 4.0.4 rom, find out you have bought nice hardware and not a phone

Who cares?
They would f* it up anyway with touchwiz crap like they did with 4.0.3, AOSP and 4.1 all the way

i would call bs on this one

clonednull said:
Read some faqs, install custom 4.0.4 rom, find out you have bought nice hardware and not a phone
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Well I've installed Parandoid Android 1.5a and VK 5.1.2 in dual boot already, but CM/AOKP/AOSP roms don't work as flawlessly as sammy roms.
For example in CM & co roms auto brightness or gyro is broken. Also no FM (yeah, i know, ther is spirit FM...) and sensor assistance is working.
greets

tugler said:
Well I've installed Parandoid Android 1.5a and VK 5.1.2 in dual boot already, but CM/AOKP/AOSP roms don't work as flawlessly as sammy roms.
For example in CM & co roms auto brightness or gyro is broken. Also no FM (yeah, i know, ther is spirit FM...) and sensor assistance is working.
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I agree, auto brightness on CM/AOSP/AOKP roms is still far away from perfect, which makes our beloved and very dark S AMOLED+ practically unusable (outdoor) on sunny days.
Also Apex, Nova, etc don't measure up to TW Launcher in terms of smoothness.

i just noticed this now people have been telling me for ages gs2 will get an official 4.0.4 rom but i guess not :/
pull your finger out your arse samsung, stop ****ing us about like you did with the 4.0.3 rom !!

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Yea just shows how gullible people can be.
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What's the point of upgrading to the newest version? It doesn't mean it's better either.. Other typical user outside the xda don't even care about rom updates.. I saw many people still running gingerbread on their S2.. If you had a perfect rom right now then why bothers?
Samsung and other companies always provides the best option for their devices..
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Would love to have 4.1 instead of 4.0.4
Phone: XWLPD
Modem: XXKI4
Kernel: Siyah 3.3.2
Theme: ICS Domination + 15 Toggles
Launcher: Apex Launcher

That site has some misspells, not something I'd trust too...
Anyway, if Google is going to release Jelly Bean this week that means the SGS2 is still in the 18 months after launch time to receive updates, but that's up to Sammy.

Hmmm..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27835981
This news is spreading like a virus.. Lol.. Who believes that site anyway..
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it's very great to have 4.0.4 for SGS2, since it's not confirmed as a fact, i'll stay on already 4.0.4 CM9's.
Custom ROM always helping