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Unlocking HTC HD2 and Using it on AT&T

I realize this is a TMO forum but since the HD2 is a TMO phone, I'm hoping someone has already done this.
I've been with TMO since April and while I'm generally happy with lesser dropped calls than AT&T, TMO's 3G service is very sporadic and does not seem to be as prolific in its availability as AT&T's.
Has anyone successfully used an unlocked HD2 on AT&T?
I would appreciate any information and suggestions on this, especially which ROM(s) to use to de-brand it and any tips/tweaks that will allow the HD2 to fully function on AT&T, including Data and Carrier/Frequency settings.
I don't plan on using the AT&T 2GB plans, just their "Unlimited" package for "dumb phones". Tethering is definitely needed.
ANY help in this will be greatly appreciated. If you don't feel like posting, you can PM me with the details.
Thanks

im guessing you didnt read much before you posted. yes tons of people use the tmous on at&t, yes it works, no you wont get 3G.

samsamuel said:
im guessing you didnt read much before you posted. yes tons of people use the tmous on at&t, yes it works, no you wont get 3G.
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Actually I did, and after wading through a seemingly endless barrage of "chatty" mostly unfocused and unrelated posts, I decided to cut to the chase and post my own thread with the hope that someone with SUBSTANTIVE answers would respond.
You see, a common theme in most forums (this one included) is that direct and specific answers are seldom posted. Instead, there is the obvious posts from those that just like to post and see their post published for the world to see and appreciate.
Personally, I find posts like "I have that same problem..." or "why don't you like TMO..." or even "have you read the other posts..." adds very little to the discussion and only serves to inflate the thread to a multi-page diatribe that does little to serve or answer the original question.
I really don't care to hear about the mother-in-law that has the same issue, or the poor guy with a bricked phone, posted in the same thread as a specific and succinct request for assistance.
Please don't be offended but if you feel like flaming me on this then I respectfully request that you do so in a specific flaming thread and not this one. I would really appreciate responses from those willing and wanting to answer my question, sans lectures and unrelated tripe.
Thanks in advance for understanding.

heh, fair enough.
direct answer, yes, it will work once you network unlock it, no you won't get 3g or hsdpa, and no amount of radio or rom flashing will be able to enable 3g, its a hardware limitation.

hd2 att 3g
The only way to get 3g on this phone HD2 on the AT&T network is to buy the Australian version Telestra T9193, they go for between 500-700 on eBay.

Thanks for the straightforward answer Now that the question's been answered I would ask the mod to please close the thread to keep it small and easy for others to see the answer as posted above and from having to endure twenty pages of nonsense like in other threads. I would never have posted this thread had I found the above answer succinctly posted sans tripe in other threads.
Again, thanks for the simple and direct response.
Now I can go try and justify selling this TMO HD2 and fork out more $$$ for a Telstra unit.

Subcatagories on development CDMA and GSM is this possiable

This is just an idea and may not be possible but Ive been following the thread on the new EURO firmware and was about to flash my Verizon tablet last night i did read thought all the posts but didn't see anything that stuck out enough for me to remember, about not flashing this firmware on a Verizon and T-mobile tab. Croak saved me a lot of time and frustration many props to him for the quick replay on my question. Now i did go back and looked at the thread and clubtech did edit a warning which may have been there last night i don't remember seeing it, thanks for that, but i looks like there are many more GSM models out there that CDMA. I believe i would be beneficial to everyone to split these tablets into there own sub categories it would help to also keep the posts and threads relevant to the particular hardware version. I guess this is kinda a petition to see if more of the XDA members agree

It's generally pretty safe to assume that any firmware, particularly if it includes a new radio/modem, will not be compatible with both types of device, it'll be one or the other, and as CDMA is pretty outdated technology-wise now, it's generally assumed to be GSM/WCDMA unless specified otherwise.
That said, the same issue exists with the HTC Hero and they have a separate sub-forum, although the CDMA version of that is significantly more common than the CDMA Tab. We'd probably end up diluting topics for a lot of common-to-both-devices subjects (apps/themes/maybe recovery etc)

New forums or add sections? HELP!

Obviously a lot of you know that I run another forum, but the point of my post is not to try to recruit people over there, but to ask the mods here or the people posting with important information like firmwares, backups, dumps and mods, to help.
I have been noticing a lot of information posted on the galaxy tablet thread that is spread out all over the place and is very unorganized. We need to make sure when we post something that we make sure it says VZW, TMO, SPRINT, AT&T or whatever!
I have separated these section on my forums to limit the possibility of people screwing their tablets up with the wrong files. Feel free to throw a copy of the important post you made here on my forums if you want to keep it documented in a section thats it was made for. Other than that I am just asking to specify it accordingly here. Maybe we can do something like (VZW) in the front of the title or something.
XDA does a great job on keeping the forums neat, but with something this broad we need to separated it.
... Thoughts???

PM me the site you mention.
I agree that some prefix tags would be good. With vbulletin its easy enough to create selectable prefixes from a drop down menu also, so not too much hassle to set-up either.
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I totally agree i didn't see your thread yesterday so i started one trying to maby get some of the moderators to see about separating the hardware versions, if you could pm me your site as well that would be great

Check my signature for info. I will pm you link.
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UK/US markup might be an idea too.

the majority of us here at xda are talking about the eu version - GT-P1000
your forum has only the us tabs in subforums... this will confuse europeans even more

ftgg99 said:
the majority of us here at xda are talking about the eu version - GT-P1000
your forum has only the us tabs in subforums... this will confuse europeans even more
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Good point . Personally I'd be happy to see a sub-section for all the posts about Verison/AT&T/sprint and how to use the device as a phone etc. I'm sure it must be confusing for those with devices that are unlocked and have phone capability to wander through so many threads about things that are of no concern to them.

organization should be as follows:
GSM galaxy tab forum(atnt,tmo)
CDMA galaxy tab forum(sprint,verizon)
in each thread header your carrier should be listed by 3 letters eg.(att,spr,ver,tmo) then topic eg.( [theme],[rom],etc...)
this would keep things organized. if dev is to get anywhere on this device, organization is key...also many are noobs that flash roms for the wrong device; i feel that if its listed like this its your own fault if you cant read...As is i can see pps flashing roms for wrong device...wont happen to me but than again, im not your everyday android user..
i read post of someone noting that most users here have/are referring to euro version of tab. that is just selfish and inconsiderate...logic dictates that if the device was released 1st in europe than more in europe would have one...well it was released in U.S fairly recently and already there are many here posting using U.S models. this is xdA dev which DOES NOT specify EUROPEAN ONLY SAMSUNG GALAXY TAB DEVELOPMENT..many of us are AMERICAN. please be considersate and consider adding structure to your forum posts so we can get this tab to the top of the food chain where it deserves to rest as the undisputed champ @ this point in time....oranization people!!!​

It should actually be at least two forum categories:
Galaxy Tab GT-P1000 which would cover most of the world and most of the devices sold (or flashed to P1000 standards).
Crippled North American Tabs. It can then have a "Even More Crippled North American Tabs" subforum for CDMA versions.
As mentioned above, many "CNAT" owners would migrate up to the P1000 forum after they've flashed to that standard, leaving the "EMCNAT" owners a nice quiet place to hang out, where they can never answer the question of "Can you hear me now?".
Note that I'm a CNAT owner.

Hey mod !!!!!!! Read this and reply !!

Please answer us on splitting out the Tab Development section into at sub sections, GSM, Sprint CDMA, Verizon CDMA.

aal1 said:
Please answer us on splitting out the Tab Development section into at sub sections, GSM, Sprint CDMA, Verizon CDMA.
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Demanding a response from a mod isn't likely to be met well. There's a lot of exclamation marks going on there. I think you might've forgotten a couple of 1's.

Why does it need to be split, are you confused from the huge selection of roms and development that's going on
swyped from a galaxy far far away...

galaxy tab has no movement (compared with desire, nexus, galaxy-s and others).
divisions are not needed, imho.
the thread titles are explicit.

Not until the source for honeycomb is released.

I personally agree with the OP. I think the section need to be split. I don't think the titles are always explicit and can be confusing. They are less confusing when you've been around for a while because the Tab forum has like no movement as was said earlier. I'm just not sure how they can split since some of the euro roms work on CDMA devices.

I have to say that I too agree. Nothing is more frustrating for a CDMA SGT owner looking for goodies, than to have to scroll through countless GSM posts. Not all posts are clear, some say only (ROM) which works fine for any other topic, but as long as there are 2 versions of the product, there should be 2 versions of threads. Just my 2 cents...
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I see no valid reason for this forum to be split, it would do more harm then good. What it infact needs is some sort of mandatory tagging scheme like the HD2 section has.
Devs need to tag their releases clearly and informatively to a set standard so users of their work have a clear and expected way of getting that info.
Example...
[10.MAR.11][ROM][GSM/CDMA] Release Name/Version [KERNEL]
This way you can clearly see the date and other needed info just by checking titles of topics.
You guys should visit the HD2 section and see how organised things are there, Yes there is waaaaay less dev work in the Tab section but better to start as you mean to go on.

I agree with both Grim and the OP.
I think what is desired is an easier way to find what will work with your device.
I moved to the Verizon version of this device from an original Moto Droid. With phones it seemed easier. If I was in the MotoDroid area, I knew that everything worked... (yeah, right) at least it was supposed to.
Here, it is much harder.
So either a consistent method of tagging a file posting or splitting. Either way solves the real goal.
Just my 14 cents...

kenfly said:
Not until the source for honeycomb is released.
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I don't see what that has to do with this..
Burning think its clear enough with the titles tbh. They state if they're CDMA or GSM.
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aal1 said:
Please answer us on splitting out the Tab Development section into at sub sections, GSM, Sprint CDMA, Verizon CDMA.
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Agreed but not JUST to those carriers. Split it according to TYPE instead.

Its probably not going to be split. And a please would be nice.

option94 said:
Its probably not going to be split. And a please would be nice.
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As you wish...
PLEASE!!!!!

Do not buy International if you use ATT LTE!

It was very difficult to find a concrete 'yes' or 'no' answer on the various threads here (a lot of discussion of bands and such which may be insanely intimidating to a new user / member). So, from what I've discovered from use and forums, and please correct me if I'm wrong, is that if you are use the 4G LTE network in America you will not be able to connect and use the enhanced speeds on the G900F model. Instead, you'll be stuck with 3G (if you're lucky) and 2G speeds.
Like I said, if anyone knows otherwise and if so can correct me in a very direct (and respectful) way so as to not intimidate new users (like my self) please do so. Especially since I'll be selling my G900F shortly. I truly do thank the Flying Spaghetti Monster that I kept my G900A version just in-case I found any problems with the international version.

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It was very difficult to find a concrete 'yes' or 'no' answer on the various threads here (a lot of discussion of bands and such which may be insanely intimidating to a new user / member). So, from what I've discovered from use and forums, and please correct me if I'm wrong, is that if you are use the 4G LTE network in America you will not be able to connect and use the enhanced speeds on the G900F model. Instead, you'll be stuck with 3G (if you're lucky) and 2G speeds.
Like I said, if anyone knows otherwise and if so can correct me in a very direct (and respectful) way so as to not intimidate new users (like my self) please do so. Especially since I'll be selling my G900F shortly. I truly do thank the Flying Spaghetti Monster that I kept my G900A version just in-case I found any problems with the international version.
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You could have Googled this info within 10 minutes like here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2709458, instead you layed back to wait for others to answer your question This is not the XDA way mate!

gee2012 said:
You could have Googled this info within 10 minutes like here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2709458, instead you layed back to wait for others to answer your question This is not the XDA way mate!
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Thank you gee2012 for feeling the need to be insulting instead of adding anything productive. Because I am a new user to the Android OS, mentioned that I scanned through the forums here and did not find a clear and concise answer to my very direct question, and found conflicting information through google searches as well as threads here I thought I could possibly help out other new users who may have the same question and feel a bit daunted by the sheer wealth of technical information here. I thought helping each other out, especially those brand new to the OS, was the XDA way. Not responding with a purely negative message to someone trying to be helpful.

onyxkhan said:
Thank you gee2012 for feeling the need to be insulting instead of adding anything productive. Because I am a new user to the Android OS, mentioned that I scanned through the forums here and did not find a clear and concise answer to my very direct question, and found conflicting information through google searches as well as threads here I thought I could possibly help out other new users who may have the same question and feel a bit daunted by the sheer wealth of technical information here. I thought helping each other out, especially those brand new to the OS, was the XDA way. Not responding with a purely negative message to someone trying to be helpful.
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I`am not insulting or dissing anyone mate but you only had to compare for instance the G900F supported LTE bands with the used ATT bands on Google and you`re question would have been answered.

gee2012 said:
You could have Googled this info within 10 minutes like here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2709458, instead you layed back to wait for others to answer your question This is not the XDA way mate!
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I`am not insulting or dissing anyone mate but you only had to compare for instance the G900F supported LTE bands with the ATT bands and thats it on Google and you`re question would have been answered.
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No disrespect meant and I apologize for not being specific in my response to you. When I say conflicting information it was based on a google search for what I felt was a basic question, "Does the S5 G900F support the ATT 4G LTE network?" That query led to websites with conflicting information (a few said it did, a few said it didn't, and a few more said 'maybe'). When I came across more information via these forums and more google searching there was no clear and distinct answer that was readily found. What was found, like you referred to, was information on base bands. Because I was new not only to the Android OS but the complexities of phones outside of the walled garden that is iOS I investigated what a base band was. From here I continued my search into the ATT bands and compared them to the S5 G900F model to see if they were compatible. Once figuring out that they were not I had answered my own question. After realizing that there are others out there who either don't have the knowledge, access to, or time I thought I'd share my 'discovery' (and yes, I realize it was not really one) with others.
So yes, you were insulting when you said I "'layed [laid] back to wait for others to answer your question" as I didn't. You assumed from my simple and brief post that I had not taken the time to do any actual searching and was lazily waiting for someone to answer my question. It was an incorrect inference which led to a seemingly sarcastic response (and associated ) which while it won't dissuade me from posting or asking questions does not, IMO, represent the helpful community aspect of XDA.
With that said I see you are a Recognized Contributor, so thank you for the information you've contributed to others throughout XDA.

I am noting more than you are. Just trying to help others by reading and trying to figure out how things work.
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