Hi guys.
I'm curious if there any possible way to port sense from HTC Flyer to our KF.
Short answer is no.
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As a whole ROM port, very difficult if not impossible due to the hardware differences. However, in pieces using a current KF ROM as a base and using the GB version of the flyer ROM, yes that could be possible and is actually something I am working on now. I am about a day or so into it and have made some progress, but it will take a while and even then the final result may not be worth it. But we will see.....
If I start to have any sucess with it, I will open a thread in development.
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hi everybody
ive come up with an idea,now the android builds/roms we use are normally from other android phones,Each android phone does something a bit different compared to others.Now Htc desire HD rom is slightly Different from a Desire Z rom.heres my idea,how about combining all the different features of the sence roms into one big build,you would need to use data to sd(euro hd2) Unfortunently im no dev,im just a graphic designer,heres what im thinking,base would be 2.3 gingerbread or froyo 2.2.1,have the menu from the nexus s(2.3),dunno if thats a 2.3 feature or not.720p recording if we can get that working,Evo keyboard,Strait bar lockscreen,bit like from the HD mini,Evolution sence bar(the bit at the bottom with the menu phone and personalise buttons),Framework close to stock but with a Battery indicator,Rotatable Sence From the Desire Z,Music player from Desire HD,Would be a big rom but crammed full of features,best of everything,obviusly HTC wont bring out android update for us so lets all do it.The Unofficial HTC HD2 android Rom,Any Devs wanna take up the challenge
I like the idea, but I think it would be impossible to do. htc employs teams of engineers working on these builds full time for one. And they have all the best in equipment and testing. So resources is an issue right off the bat.
In addition to that, I'm sure there's a reason why you can't move data.imgs from one build to another, they're probably not compatible.
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Like the reply above me says... we don't have an army of devs and millions of $ to spend on development. It's amazing what the devs have been able to do, but the main reason they have accomplished what they have is because there were similar devices we were able to port from. We are running a port... I don't think the hd2 will ever have its own Rom not taken from another device.
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Dude, its a nice thought but to wuote agent smith. Your living in a dream world neo.
i think it is possible,just take a bit of time,you just gotta look at it from a different angle.i have a theory about how to do it just a Dev would need actually need to do it,could even set up a Bounty if needs be but would be great to see.Base Rom we can use The desire Z 2.2.1 rom as base as its lighter than HD,i dont think Gingerbread is coming to desire Z just yet.So use that.Then incorperate the Desire HD music player(i have an apk for that)Near original framework but with a battery percentage in the battery icon(i have an apk for that).Evolution Sence bar or rEvolution you can get here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=891520 ,Evo keyboard i think we can use HTC_IME wich i have an apk for aswell,you would need to use data to sd wich has allready been done becouse it would be a big build,All we need is for someone to bring em all together to Creat the rom,If somebody was wanting to do it i can put those apk up on here for download
I really like CM7, but I would like a good Rom that has SenseUI. anyone know of one? i'd like it to be stable and most stuff working.
Orange Sense. HTC Sense, very fast and stable. Available in the development forum.
I have a question...pardon my ignorance on the matter...
What exactly are "earmarks" of a senseUI? I used my stock glacier rom until only last week, and now am using CM7/RC4, and I fail to see the UI differences. This surprised me because I see people have some pretty strong feelings for or against senseUI compared to Android stock UI.
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they are two different rom types, the sense framework takes up more space, but it is really fancy with the clock that's the only reason i want it.
You want the old fashioned 1980s flip clock that you see in most of the Mytouch 4G print ads? I didn't even realize that was now not an option...
I cannot imagine you can't use it though. Just review all the different home launchers... There had got to be one that will let you use this clock.
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syntropic said:
I have a question...pardon my ignorance on the matter...
What exactly are "earmarks" of a senseUI? I used my stock glacier rom until only last week, and now am using CM7/RC4, and I fail to see the UI differences. This surprised me because I see people have some pretty strong feelings for or against senseUI compared to Android stock UI.
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You don't see the difference between Sense and the standard Android UI?
Also, the stock MT4G ROM is not real Sense. It's a T-Mobile customized version that isn't near as attractive. "Real" Sense is much more attractive.
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You don't see the difference between Sense and the standard Android UI?
Also, the stock MT4G ROM is not real Sense. It's a T-Mobile customized version that isn't near as attractive. "Real" Sense is much more attractive.
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Not really, and I am usually big on bells and whistles too. I think I may go back to sense (a modded 2.3 rom). Are there any you (or anyone with an opinion) suggest I try out first?
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the modded 2.3 ones aren't stable i don't think, that's why im asking is there one lol. most have issues running somethings like bluetooth or camera.
Evil's 4G-HD Desire HD rom. Pair it with the latest Faux Sense kernel and it will fly! Everything works!
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Not really, and I am usually big on bells and whistles too. I think I may go back to sense (a modded 2.3 rom). Are there any you (or anyone with an opinion) suggest I try out first?
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The two posts above this one pretty much sums it up.
Gingerbread/Sense 2.1 ROMs aren't fully functional or stable yet.
If you want Sense, try eViL's Desire HD port. Link is in my sig.
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The two posts above this one pretty much sums it up.
Gingerbread/Sense 2.1 ROMs aren't fully functional or stable yet.
If you want Sense, try eViL's Desire HD port. Link is in my sig.
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Great.. will try it out. The only things I have noticed that are different are small niceties, which may have nothing to do with sense and cm7. For example, in the glacier's stock rom, I loved that you could be on the phone and simply set it on a table rear side up, and haptics would turn on the speakerphone. It doesn't sound like much but small things like this add up and overall gave me a better experience.
Can I ask why faux and others at cyanogen are able to create 4 release candidates for their 2.3 rom, yet a stable 2.3 sense rom is still weeks away? Is this because of the morons over at HTC, who don't understand what open source means and won't release their code?
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Can I ask why faux and others at cyanogen are able to create 4 release candidates for their 2.3 rom, yet a stable 2.3 sense rom is still weeks away? Is this because of the morons over at HTC, who don't understand what open source means and won't release their code?
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Pretty much. We'll of course never have the source code to Sense, but a good dump from a similar phone can be ported. The problem is, the only Gingerbread/Sense 2.1 dump we have is from the Incredible S, and despite the similarities in hardware, the kernel isn't directly compatible. It sounds like until we get a better starting point, those ROMs will be buggy and missing features.
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Pretty much. We'll of course never have the source code to Sense, but a good dump from a similar phone can be ported. The problem is, the only Gingerbread/Sense 2.1 dump we have is from the Incredible S, and despite the similarities in hardware, the kernel isn't directly compatible. It sounds like until we get a better starting point, those ROMs will be buggy and missing features.
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By dump do you mean the actual code? And so is motorola (or whoever is behind the incredible...cannot recall at the moment) releasing their code? Because if you are just doing a memory dump and doing some RE to get the actual code, I would ask why that can't be done with the glacier.
And as long you have something a little better than binary, I would think you could get some reasonable starting point from the glacier stock. I am not really skilled in the art as of yet so consider me mostly speaking out of my ass. But I am quite interested. Maybe I will try to get the sense code for you . I mean there has to be a few draft versions in some server not locked up tight.
Oh..and lastly, so evil's rom is a quasi 2.3 (not in substance) with the kernel being 2.2 just tricked out?
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At this point, I don't think I know much more about this than you. I know a dump is much like the ROMs that we flash to our phones...it's the phones entire OS and software package which can then be ported to other phones (assume their of the same manufacturer and are somewhat similar). As you know, the Desire HD is nearly identical to the Glacier (minus the screen) so a dump from it can be easily ported to our phones, and after some "devving", will run perfectly on the MT4G. As far as binaries and code, that's all way beyond me. An actual dev could give you a lot more detailed info.
I asked this earlier and I think it just got lost... but in regard to a sense rom, is evil's rom like a "quasi" 2.3 (has the look but not the substance of gingerbread) with a 2.2.1 kernel that's just tricked out, updated, etc.?
I am not familiar with kernels being separate from the rom. Why is this done? I am sure the install is not too difficult (considering what I have been through with CM7), but is there a guide here,our should I just comb the threads for an installation overview for the sense roms/kernels?
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Edit: I started reading the thread for evil's rom.. and for now, I think I might go back to stock, and upgrade the kernel. (unless there are really no problems worth the Z port, like ffc or wifi issues). So with that said, which kernel is best for the HD sense stock rom (or which stock rom out there has been enhanced the best with everything still functional)? I know there aren't that many different upgraded stock roms/kernels, but of the ones I found, they seem the same.
Sorry to makes this long but I ask this because I see people with just the stock plus an upgraded kernel, but then also, there is the Orange Glacier which is an enhanced stock rom.... Wouldn't those two packages be virtually identical?
Or am I just letting this kernel factor confuse me?
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Forget it.... I just spent 3 hours in the dev threads.... The nomenclature mess was making my eyes bleed... Orange Glacier, Iced Glacier, Royal Ginger, Royal Mint, Royal Jelly, KY Jelly... %^$#^
So... I retract my earlier decision and I am going to stay on the bleeding edge with CM7... F*ck it if I can't do progressive scan video or get reply notifications to MMS messages sent to CDMA networks!!*
*I just made those two things up... It means to say that the bugs that do exist in CM7 are very arcane and minor... But I am an easy sell so tomorrow I will probably want to go back to sense.
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Ever saw a ROM that you want for this phone. Well now is your chance to get it ported.
I thinking of learning to port and was looking for a ROM.
I am taking suggestions, but they must follow the following requirements.
- must be available on a device that is the same resolution as our phone (480*800)
-must be a ROM that we do not already have (if I am going to learn, I might as well do something that will benefit the community)
-must be a portable ROM...(I.e. not touchwiz which no one has been able to port to any device.)
I really do not mind if it is a device native ROM (comes pre-loaded on a device) or if it was developed or nodded by a dev.
Furthermore I am not guaranteeing a port or a timeline. Though I will guarantee that If i get a port working, I will post it.
I look forward to your suggestions.
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Interested in working together? I'd love to learn this also. PM me if your open for it
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It looks like a bit of a challenge, but this one looks really awesome.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913597
I know it's derived from the Desire Z rom with HTC sense. If that rom I linked to would be difficult, go for the Desire Z. (Make sure to do that one, not the G2, they're the same phone, but different nationalities and have different version of android - desire z has sense and g2 is stock android) It looks
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I'm just gonna backtrack a bit here, it looks like some weird sd card partitioning is important to that HD2 rom. So I would say port the Desire z rom, but attempt to mimic the one I linked.
Hi I'm no dev so this will be a highly stupid question, is it possible to mix overall sense 3.5 with the ics,if you can remove sense from a Rom script etc, can't it work the otherway? I don't think HTC will go overboard on the new sense anyway
As I said....yes a stupid question
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Possible? Yes. Doable? Unlikely... at least for now.
Even HTC will take it's time, and they have Sense source.
Remember, Sense is tied to framework, you can't just take a 2.3 framework and expect it to work on 4.0 out of the box.
I saw new thread in Sensation Development Thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1429953
so, go go go devs !
If i'am correct than is this rom is not for the HD2.
I hope someone pickes it up!
kruiske21 said:
If i'am correct than is this rom is not for the HD2.
I hope someone pickes it up!
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You're right, hope some dev will port it!
That ROM is obsolete. That's a sense 3.6 ROM.
One the portal, someone has begun a port of sense 4.0 forreal though... unfortunately not for the HD2 though
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bartass127 said:
I saw new thread in Sensation Development Thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1429953
so, go go go devs !
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To be honest I doubt Sense 4.0 would be usable if it ever was ported to the HD2, so I think maybe interesting to play around with but unfortunately nothing to seriously look forwards to
I think the devs are having a hard time with the new 4.0 software. :/
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I promise, at the end of March, or whenever the XL RUU releases, I will be working on the ICS update port for Sensation XL.
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I know a bunch of other Devs/Chefs that are apart of the HD2 Android community will probably do the same.
The ROM of the new HTC one V seems really interesting to be ported to hd2 (rosie is 800x480) ...
Ice Cream Sandwich is having problems with drivers. So, ICS with Sense 4.0 would require a new batch of drivers which would take more time to solve bugs etc.
i have posted a thread trying to port an actual sense 4.0 but im stuck and in need of help (thread in Q+A named porting sense 4.0)