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[Q] Confused about Honeycomb ROMs

I understand that different ROMs can be in varying degrees of completion and bug fixes. Ive been flashing ROMs since my HTC Fuze on WinMo 6.1 so I get that there can be things that look great but don't work. But I'm looking at all these nook color Honeycomb videos on YouTube and they seem to work fine. I have VEEEERY basic tablet needs. Browser, email, pdf reading, nook and kindle reading and a few news related apps. So, am I missing something? Are they really all that buggy?
Thanks, if anyone can explain this for me.

All honeycomb roms are buggy as they are pretty much creating them blind. As Google will not release the source code. It's amazing at how far they've gotten without it but it is still not anywhere near CM7. If your going to use a rom make sure it's CM7.
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Am I reading things wrong or does it seem that there are as bunch of different CM7 ROMs? I don't mean nightlies, I mean different actual ROMs?
What would be the latest ACTUAL official release that is the most problem free?
So all the Honeycombs are gonna be buggy? Even just for the stuff I use? (browser, kindle, nook, news apps, pdf, etc?)

tinpanalley said:
Am I reading things wrong or does it seem that there are as bunch of different CM7 ROMs? I don't mean nightlies, I mean different actual ROMs?
What would be the latest ACTUAL official release that is the most problem free?
So all the Honeycombs are gonna be buggy? Even just for the stuff I use? (browser, kindle, nook, news apps, pdf, etc?)
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There are a few CM7 based roms but they are out of date and mostly abandoned. The most problem free release would be the 7.1 RC.
Yes, unfortunately it is the sad truth but honeycomb is kind of overkill for a 7 inch screen. So I don't feel too bad about it.
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Ok, cool. Well, not cool, but what can you do. I'll try 7.1 I though 7.0.3 was the latest stable version??
Anyway, you've been really helpful with this thread. Would you mind taking a look at this other one I posed to see if you can help me out?? I'd appreciate it. THanks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192704

tinpanalley said:
Ok, cool. Well, not cool, but what can you do. I'll try 7.1 I though 7.0.3 was the latest stable version??
Anyway, you've been really helpful with this thread. Would you mind taking a look at this other one I posed to see if you can help me out?? I'd appreciate it. THanks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192704
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7.1 is a release candidate that means it is ready for day to day use but might have a couple of bugs but it includes improvements such as deep sleep that really save your battery by a ton but whatever release you want to pick is up to you. You could try them both for a couple days each and see what one you like better.
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tinpanalley said:
Am I reading things wrong or does it seem that there are as bunch of different CM7 ROMs? I don't mean nightlies, I mean different actual ROMs?
What would be the latest ACTUAL official release that is the most problem free?
So all the Honeycombs are gonna be buggy? Even just for the stuff I use? (browser, kindle, nook, news apps, pdf, etc?)
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Nah, there's really only the CM7. Phiremod is nothing more than a themed CM7. Nobody's really released any groundbreaking actual ROM for NC. Which is fine, really - because CM7 is damned good for the NC, and it's plenty customizable and themeable (start poking around UOT Kitchen).
What there *are*, though, are different bootloaders and ROMs for the SD install or the EMMC (NC memory, overwrites the original BN software), and how they're loaded. Frankly, I just went with verygreen's SD-size-agnostic loader, picked a CM7 nightly, and haven't looked back.

Changing boot anim without rooting?

Is it possible? The stock animation is boring
The stock ics animation is nice.

johnciaccio said:
Is it possible? The stock animation is boring
The stock ics animation is nice.
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No, you must have access to the Media folder, and the only way to do that, is to root, so you will have access to the System folders.

What stock ICS intro are you talking about? I'd like to see... You got a YouTube link or something? Not all stock ICS intros are the same, as different manufacturers use different ones, so I'm curious as to which one you're talking about.

ibawanzingee said:
What stock ICS intro are you talking about? I'd like to see... You got a YouTube link or something? Not all stock ICS intros are the same, as different manufacturers use different ones, so I'm curious as to which one you're talking about.
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He has a 3.2.x, but wants to use a bootanimation.zip from some ICS rom. But to use it, in any device, he will have to have root access. Hope it's not a bootanimation from a phone, should be interesting

No you don't need root access. You can use ADB to push it to /data/local

ibawanzingee said:
What stock ICS intro are you talking about? I'd like to see... You got a YouTube link or something? Not all stock ICS intros are the same, as different manufacturers use different ones, so I'm curious as to which one you're talking about.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaT7iogBoqI
This one. Looks nice on my my touch4g with creamed glacier rom.
Just a example. Of course we need something in the higher resolution.
Maybe people can reply with some links or suggestions here. I am sure I am not the only one interested.

gammaRascal said:
No you don't need root access. You can use ADB to push it to /data/local
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Sort of the long way around. But if you post all the steps and prerequisites, I'm sure he'd appreciate it
Eventually, he'll root. They always do

yeah all my android devices are rooted. I am pretty good at following instructions and using adb. I just have no need for it as this device uses a pretty vanilla version of android -which I am happy about.

Moscow Desire said:
Eventually, he'll root. They always do
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This is true.
Though I avoided rooting for a while and when I made my bootanimations [in my sig] I was doing the adb routine which is definitely more involved than rooting. Well, more involved than rooting GB/HC 3.1 anyways... *nudge nudge*

gammaRascal said:
This is true.
Though I avoided rooting for a while and when I made my bootanimations [in my sig] I was doing the adb routine which is definitely more involved than rooting. Well, more involved than rooting GB/HC 3.1 anyways... *nudge nudge*
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I know what you mean. Problem is, it's been 2 yrs since I used adb on my Desire.... and I'm ashamed to say... I forgot how to use it!!!
Nifty little tool, is JRummys toolbox. You can copy about 50 bootanimation.zips and swap them at will. Of course you need root, but hey....
Probably some other apps that do the same thing.
For me, I only re-boot my tab, when I test a rom. So boot ani's are sort of not needed. No offense Gamma

Those are some nice animations. I will probably use one of them.
Maybe I will root if someone comes out with a ice cream sandwich rom

johnciaccio said:
Those are some nice animations. I will probably use one of them.
Maybe I will root if someone comes out with a ice cream sandwich rom
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Well, there is 1. 90 percent working. It's an ASOP build, which means, it doesn't have 500/501 specific drivers for it. (camera doesn't work, nor 3g for 501).
I have a 501, and I use skype for business. So I need cameras and 3g.

Yeah the camera drivers seem to be the problems. I was running the creamed glacier rom on my mytouch an issue with poweramp (my favorite music player) and went back to cyanogenmod .
Off topic sorry... how do you move the cursor while typing with no directional pad or cursor keys on a tablet? It is difficult to get it just where you need it!
The cyanogenmod team said due to the camera drivers most likely there will not be a fully working cyanogenmod 9 rom out for any phones until the carriers release their updates for the phones. : (

As far as using adb..
I found a windows program that i use from time to time.. QTadb .. LOOK it up.. IT HAS Some of the built in adb commands with some drag and drop features..
There is also another one i forget the name that is even more..
do a net search FOR GUI ADB Windows program .. or something similar.. Its like buttons for dos.. 20 years ago... Call me a Cheater if you like But remember im Blonde...

What is your favorite ROM for the Kindle Fire?

And why?
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For now... stock!

Come on people! Help me choose a ROM

Cyanogenmod 7... I love ICS though.

maw230 said:
Come on people! Help me choose a ROM
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It really depends what you want, doesn't it?
If you want something stable where everything works, you're not going to flash ICS on it, are you? Me, I wanted to play around with something that I knew was still in the alpha/beta stages of development, so I took the plunge. I find that the 02_09_Hashcode build on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1411895 does all that I need it to at the moment, so I'm happy with it. If you follow that thread, though, you will find people that don't like it, people that want HW video acceleration, people that won't run it until it runs netflix... etc. It all depends on your desires/needs.
Sure, I'd like to be able to have the original reader on it - the margins on the reader app are so big a single sentence spans multiple pages. But if that was too much of a bother, I'd go back to stock wouldn't I?

CM7 Whistlestop build(SoS)
CM7 SoS. Solid as a rock. HW accel works, hd video, and ad hoc wifi works. Good sh*t. With ICS theme, ADW EX, and the removal of a few unnecessary APKs, it's BY FAR the best out right now.

i use stock just because i kinda like the Carousel launcher. until they port it to ics i'm sticking with stock. i don't want to use the kindle android app. lol

CodenameDeadpool said:
CM7 SoS. Solid as a rock. HW accel works, hd video, and ad hoc wifi works. Good sh*t. With ICS theme, ADW EX, and the removal of a few unnecessary APKs, it's BY FAR the best out right now.
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That's what I'm looking for! I think I will give this one a go later. What's the best way to flash TWRP to a rooted kindle? I can't seem to get into FireFireFire although it was supposedly installed properly with BurritoRoot3...

CodenameDeadpool said:
CM7 SoS. Solid as a rock. HW accel works, hd video, and ad hoc wifi works. Good sh*t. With ICS theme, ADW EX, and the removal of a few unnecessary APKs, it's BY FAR the best out right now.
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Hi, what version of Android does this ROM show up as? There are some apps that I want to run that require 3.0+.

Born2g0lf said:
Hi, what version of Android does this ROM show up as? There are some apps that I want to run that require 3.0+.
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2.3.7
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maw230 said:
That's what I'm looking for! I think I will give this one a go later. What's the best way to flash TWRP to a rooted kindle? I can't seem to get into FireFireFire although it was supposedly installed properly with BurritoRoot3...
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KindleFireUtility is pretty easy to deal with if you're not comfortable running adb shell commands. It will install the most recent version of BurritoRoot and TWRP and does many other things as well. Just be sure to read the instructions in the thread well or you may end up posting one of the many "bricked my KF while trying to install TWRP with KFU" threads you'll see around here

maw230 said:
That's what I'm looking for! I think I will give this one a go later. What's the best way to flash TWRP to a rooted kindle? I can't seem to get into FireFireFire although it was supposedly installed properly with BurritoRoot3...
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The best way is to use KIndle Fire Utility, which can be found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399889#

I am confused
I don't know which one is better,i am a newbie to the android things.
Is there any pictures or a complete comparison between these os?

Raid6 said:
I don't know which one is better,i am a newbie to the android things.
Is there any pictures or a complete comparison between these os?
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It depends on what do you expecting from your ROM.
CM9 builds are more polished and tablet looking than other, but don't have video HW acceleration support and netfix.
CM7 builds are bit more laggy (if we are talking about UI animations) but you can play videos from webpages.
Barebones are looking similiar to ICS UI, and is very fast but you have to install everything on it (it's just naked system).
I didn't using MIUI/Kand ROMS so cant tell anything about them

Cm7 sos I got flash to work =p
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CM7 SoS is what I keep coming back to. I've tried a little bit of everything. As a side note, I love the KF subforum, bunch of great people.

maw230 said:
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Got to have my Netflix account up and working. CM7 SoS is just great. Still, I can't wait for CM9 to get video working. I understand they're almost there.

For me, the MoDaCo rom is the perfect fit. You get the "stock" experience- probably the best app compatibility you're going to find. In addition, you have several tweaks and the Market preinstalled.
Having been around the block a few times on other tablets and Android phones, I love the bleeding edge ROMs. But if a device is your daily driver, stability and compatibility are important. The MoDaCo rom gives that.
Now, give ICS a few more months, and it may be a different story.

Everything everyone said about the ROMs here is correct and good advice.
I'd just add if I was starting out with CM7, I'd try the barebones version. That wasn't yet out when I installed it and I had to uninstall all the unneeded apps manually. If I were to start now, I'd use barebones, for sure.
Otherwise they are the same.
CM7 is very good. You will like it, I bet.

furtom said:
Everything everyone said about the ROMs here is correct and good advice.
I'd just add if I was starting out with CM7, I'd try the barebones version. That wasn't yet out when I installed it and I had to uninstall all the unneeded apps manually. If I were to start now, I'd use barebones, for sure.
Otherwise they are the same.
CM7 is very good. You will like it, I bet.
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Similar experience here. I was on CM7 sos, then tried ICS. In the interim, Barebones came out, so I rolled with that.
I prefer what I'm used to with Android, so CM7 is a good fit for me.
Someone did mention that the UI was slightly laggy, but I've had a better experience with CM7 using Raven's kernal than I did with ICS with whatever kernel came with it.

[Q] Feature request & apex dock question Energy Rom

Hi could anyone who thinks it would be useful ask NRGZ28 to add the Galaxy Tab masquerade to his ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1528024). I think it would be a good addition that would make it even better, and would not be too time consuming to get it going.
I would ask him myself but the posting rules do not allow it, since I'm new.
And now a totally different question: is it normal that Apex has no dock in the Energy Rom? Or am I missing something?

no dock in apex launcher is a known issue for all ics tablet..

dieandromeda said:
no dock in apex launcher is a known issue for all ics tablet..
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There isn't supposed to be a dock..... it's a tablet!

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I thought it was a bug. I'll stick with Go Launcher HD then. Thanks guys.

1. to masquerade the KF as a galaxy tab in NRG rom is a verry good idea.
2.If you use go launcher then you better run cm7 it is more stable and hwa works.
Tablets don´t need a dock bar

Tommycc said:
Hi could anyone who thinks it would be useful ask NRGZ28 to add the Galaxy Tab masquerade to his ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1528024). I think it would be a good addition that would make it even better, and would not be too time consuming to get it going.
I would ask him myself but the posting rules do not allow it, since I'm new.
And now a totally different question: is it normal that Apex has no dock in the Energy Rom? Or am I missing something?
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On a March 14th post he did mention that the tablet would identify itself as a galaxy tab for more market app compatibility, however I am using the 3/19 release and it still identifies as Kindle Fire, maybe something that did not go through?

Yeah, same boat here.

New CM7 or later for KF yet?

It's been about 4 or 5 months since I flashed CM7 on my Kindle Fire and I am having some problems with it rebooting spontaneously (at least I haven't noticed any patterns) and some slight lag in my launcher loading apps in files and sometimes even uninstalling apps (GOex Launcher). I am wondering if anyone else has had this problem, mainly with rebooting randomly on CM7, or if I did something wrong when flashing it?
Also, if there's been a newer release of CM for the Kindle that I overlooked or missed, that could also explain the problem as well, I think...
Any thoughts, comments, or experiences would be helpful. Thanks.

Also, I've noticed a bit more posts than a few months ago about CM9 for KF. Has anyone had the experience of comparing the two? Is one more stable now than the other? I was told (at the time I flashed) that CM7 was more stable but am wondering if that's still the case. If you've used both or particularly had a great experience with one over the other, I'd like to hear what you think.

nogloww said:
Also, I've noticed a bit more posts than a few months ago about CM9 for KF. Has anyone had the experience of comparing the two? Is one more stable now than the other? I was told (at the time I flashed) that CM7 was more stable but am wondering if that's still the case. If you've used both or particularly had a great experience with one over the other, I'd like to hear what you think.
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I am currently running AOKP Build 35 by OxD34D, and it is probably the best ROM I have every run on any of my Android devices. Everything is super solid, virtually no bugs. I say this, however, my experience with CM7 is limited on this device. I would say from the forums it would seem that CM7 and CM9 are very similar as far as stability goes. A lot of the thanks goes to the kernel devs who have made great strides in getting this device to where it is now. So make sure to give them some thanks for their works as well.

PS: This is great development you have here. *points you to the general section*

I would recommend updating your FireFireFire bootloader and recovery and then trying Hashcodes CM9 ROM.
FireFireFire 1.4a:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1632375
ClockworkMod Recovery 5.5.0.4:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1651413
Hashcodes CM9 ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1591850

I'm running gedeROM (I think that's how its spelled) CM9 and its friggin amazing. Blows CM7 out of the water, IMO.

I think the general consensus is that the CM9 based ROMs are better than the CM7 ROMs at this point. They are not perfect, but neither was CM7, which don't forget, is really a phone OS, not a tablet OS. The launchers are better and I think the app support is better as well.

brizey said:
I think the general consensus is that the CM9 based ROMs are better than the CM7 ROMs at this point. They are not perfect, but neither was CM7, which don't forget, is really a phone OS, not a tablet OS. The launchers are better and I think the app support is better as well.
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But still no hi-def video correct? I have been out of the loop lately, so please correct me if I am wrong. I know its petty, but I use my KF for a lot of video viewing and it was important to me at the time I loaded CM7.

Yes it has HWA .

JustROLLIN said:
But still no hi-def video correct? I have been out of the loop lately, so please correct me if I am wrong. I know its petty, but I use my KF for a lot of video viewing and it was important to me at the time I loaded CM7.
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HWA works for any ICS based ROM (CM9 or AOKP) as long as it has the 3.x kernel, which I think pretty much all of them do now. While there are still some random issues (looks like more app-centric (HBO Go and Hulu+ especially)), it tends to work well for most folks with Netflix and YouTube HD. It does seem to help if you do a full clean on your device (factory reset, both caches, system) before switching ROMs.

HaiKaiDo said:
PS: This is great development you have here. *points you to the general section*
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I'm not sure if you were being sarcastic or what exactly your reply meant (inflection is hard to hear within text) so sorry if you think I posted this question in the wrong forum but I thought the development from CM7 to CM9 would be best discussed by developers. It looks like I'm not the only one, but if you feel that strongly about it, I'll keep it mind next time. Thanks for your opinion.

Try gedeROM. It's ice cream sandwich.
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nogloww said:
I'm not sure if you were being sarcastic or what exactly your reply meant (inflection is hard to hear within text) so sorry if you think I posted this question in the wrong forum but I thought the development from CM7 to CM9 would be best discussed by developers. It looks like I'm not the only one, but if you feel that strongly about it, I'll keep it mind next time. Thanks for your opinion.
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Yep the development section is for actual development and releases of roms, kernels etc. Wasnt trying to be a ****, just tired of people posting discussion threads in the development forums. The Developers also read the general section. Its not my opinion, its a forum rule.

Aesrys said:
HWA works for any ICS based ROM (CM9 or AOKP) as long as it has the 3.x kernel, which I think pretty much all of them do now. While there are still some random issues (looks like more app-centric (HBO Go and Hulu+ especially)), it tends to work well for most folks with Netflix and YouTube HD. It does seem to help if you do a full clean on your device (factory reset, both caches, system) before switching ROMs.
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Actually you can get Hulu+ to work with the latest kernel. Search the forums for Hulu, and someone made a modified version that bypasses the device not supported screen. I even have swype working on it too. At this point there's no reason not to use ICS.
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Aesrys said:
HWA works for any ICS based ROM (CM9 or AOKP) as long as it has the 3.x kernel, which I think pretty much all of them do now. While there are still some random issues (looks like more app-centric (HBO Go and Hulu+ especially)), it tends to work well for most folks with Netflix and YouTube HD. It does seem to help if you do a full clean on your device (factory reset, both caches, system) before switching ROMs.
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HBO Go was recently updated to support android 4.0 so it's working great for me on my KF

BananaFusion said:
Actually you can get Hulu+ to work with the latest kernel. Search the forums for Hulu, and someone made a modified version that bypasses the device not supported screen. I even have swype working on it too. At this point there's no reason not to use ICS.
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BluesHawk said:
HBO Go was recently updated to support android 4.0 so it's working great for me on my KF
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Figured someone would get them working.

smirkit zip
abundantmussel said:
I would recommend updating your FireFireFire bootloader and recovery and then trying Hashcodes CM9 ROM.
FireFireFire 1.4a:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1632375
ClockworkMod Recovery 5.5.0.4:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1651413
Hashcodes CM9 ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1591850
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I have the gedeROM from 13-05-2012 installed and
did the update FireFireFire 1.4a and TWRP 2.1.1 with the smirkit zip
that's easy and you don't need de computer you can do it on your kindle.
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veeman said:
Try gedeROM. It's ice cream sandwich.
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I think the gedeROM is the best at the moment.
but don't forget shut down in recovery or push the power button for 10 sec. before the battery is dead.
with all the rom's with kernel 3.0