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New Android Market?

It's gotten a little.... green.

Welcome to about last week.

... and the market still sucks. No way to sort by popularity or # of downloads, search results usually yield Asian crap unrelated to your query, and its slow.
I love Android, I love tinkering with it, but they really need to fix the market. When I search for "xda developer" I shouldn't get pages upon pages of garbage in a language I can't speak. I should also be able to filter searches by free, paid, rating, downloads, etc.
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Very much a mess still... Oh well
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Intratech said:
Welcome to about last week.
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You got me.
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snapper.fishes said:
You got me.
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I knew it was out but i dont have it still!

New market doesn't show my downloaded free apps! Anyone got the same problem? If so, how is it solveable? BTW, if I search for those apps, then they show as installed - but not in my apps. Go figure.
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I don't like the barf green at all. Other than that it seems to work fine so far, I haven't had an stuck in authorizing/installing issues like I had before yet. But I have had it lag a bit several times.
I do wonder if this is partially my SD card failing or something.

I have to admit being an app designer myself. It looks ****ty and amateur. However the usability fells much better.
Google pretty much build solid apps but design sucks. Just imagine I'd they invested in good designers, they would kick ass.
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hugo5 said:
New market doesn't show my downloaded free apps! Anyone got the same problem? If so, how is it solveable? BTW, if I search for those apps, then they show as installed - but not in my apps. Go figure.
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Clear market cache and something from the settings. Restart after clearing cache.

My old market didn't show downloaded free apps any more. What I did was go to preferences - applications. Then to market and erase its data.
After starting market I had the new market! And all installed apps were visible again.

I prefer not to have an option to sort by ratings/download number. If available, people would search for something, sort the list by ratings and download the top one or the second.
Not being able to sort by ratings gives less known applications the opportunity to shine in the market.

New Android Market

Title says it all.
I wonder if someone has the apk already.
http://m.gizmodo.com/5820593/the-ne...s-phone-app-which-means-it-looks-a-lot-better

Wondering the same thing, I posted a thread in the themes and apps section asking this also.

Here ya go. Copy to system/app.

You beat me to it I just saw this on another thread!
Fir those that has downloaded it how is it, and can we vibrant users play the movies?
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Haven't tried movies yet but the UI seems nice and functional.
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ty very much for that

Strange thing happened, the market downgraded itself. I guess its not the time to update yet.
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Loving it!
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A downgrade indeed... in terms of features. You can't view the permissions of the app before downloading now, updates don't seem to show up on top. There is a possibility that I might have missed those features since I'm new to this.
On the plus side, it's super fast now and there are more useful categories. I hope they bring back the old features if they've been removed.

jsparakov said:
A downgrade indeed... in terms of features. You can't view the permissions of the app before downloading now, updates don't seem to show up on top. There is a possibility that I might have missed those features since I'm new to this.
On the plus side, it's super fast now and there are more useful categories. I hope they bring back the old features if they've been removed.
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You can still see the permissions before you download.
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You can still see the permissions before you download.
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I'll need to check that out. Thanks!
But how about the updates? I know there's an app that has an update because I didn't grab it yet. Lo and behold, the app does have an update button in the app details BUT it doesn't show up on top of the list. Maybe I'll try doing stuff like rebooting my phone.
Oh, and one more thing. There's no longer the auto-update check mark like before. Is it really missing or am I just missing it?

jsparakov said:
A downgrade indeed... in terms of features. You can't view the permissions of the app before downloading now, updates don't seem to show up on top. There is a possibility that I might have missed those features since I'm new to this.
On the plus side, it's super fast now and there are more useful categories. I hope they bring back the old features if they've been removed.
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My two updates are at the very top and seperated. And of course you can see permissions. Click download and a seperate page comes up to confirm and shows permissions and more clearly I might add.
Also its only showing the updates of apps actually downloaded from the market. I too had two that weren't showing but they did in fact have updates. The reason is those two were backups from like November and I don't remember if I got them from the market or here.
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jsparakov said:
I'll need to check that out. Thanks!
But how about the updates? I know there's an app that has an update because I didn't grab it yet. Lo and behold, the app does have an update button in the app details BUT it doesn't show up on top of the list. Maybe I'll try doing stuff like rebooting my phone.
Oh, and one more thing. There's no longer the auto-update check mark like before. Is it really missing or am I just missing it?
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All my applications that needs to be updated are on top also there's still an option for automatic updates.
This is really a good update. I just need a wifi at my house so I can now rent movies.
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So it turns out that all of the features that appeared missing (uninstall, auto-update, permissions section) were mostly caused by my apps losing their market links.. and being too quick to judge for the permissions one. After rebooting, the list of all my installed apps disappeared where they were in the "not installed" section before. So I think I'll have to find a way to restore them. It's either with market doctor in Titanium and/or clearing the market data, right?

I hear rooted users can not rent movies though the new market. Is this true?

bkg.brett said:
I hear rooted users can not rent movies though the new market. Is this true?
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Yes. This is true.
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=434bbbbe082cf796&hl=en
(The author of that complaint is Supercurio, creator of Voodoo Lagfix)

Yup, rooted phones can't watch movies. I don't see them removing that policy because of piracy issues.
But it really sucks to be this way, maybe they should do what amazon is doing? Making sure that the movies will only work on the account that downloaded it?
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Thanks EB for the link. working perfectly on SimplyHoney 3.9.1.

tried the market apk on the latest cm7 nightly, but when i try to open it i get the message "you must add an account to the device to continue. Do you want to add one now?" so i choose yes but nothing happens i logged in to google thru the browser but no luck there either any suggestions??

After spending about 15 min with this, I have to say that this market is a nice improvement. The issues I encountered were all temporary (missing update button, security permissions lists before download, etc). Sucks that they decided to stop rooted users from video rentals. I can see why, but in the end someone will figure out how to bypass that.
If anyone has issues listing their installed apps in My Apps my solution was to use titanium backup to wipe the data of the market app clean + using the market doctor. I also had two accounts in accounts and sync and had to get rid of the secondary one to get to load up my default sync data.
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tried the market apk on the latest cm7 nightly, but when i try to open it i get the message "you must add an account to the device to continue. Do you want to add one now?" so i choose yes but nothing happens i logged in to google thru the browser but no luck there either any suggestions??
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You have to accounts and sync in the settings and add an account. Quite weird that you can't do it through the actual market. I never had an issue doing that in youtube!

The joys of Lucky Patcher

No, this is not associated with piracy as are most cases with this app. After many weeks of extensive testing I've learned that Lucky Patcher can drastically increase the battery life of Android devices. There are a lot of apps out there that stop ads in applications but that doesn't stop the application from waking up your device and sending a request for the ad. I would barely make 8 hours of battery life with that happening and after using Lucky Patcher to remove Google ads from apps that had them my battery life has tripled. Test it for yourselves.
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Interesting, im going to try this.
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djluis48 said:
Interesting, im going to try this.
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Has it worked for you?
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8 hours of moderate use, texting, a few calls, web browsing and minor gaming, and I'm at 82%.
My longest was about 3 days with only texting and light browsing.
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Anyone have the apk? Can't seem to find it in play store.

cause you can't. This app is for cracking other apps, blocking license veryfication, adblocks and other illegal things

ovitz said:
cause you can't. This app is for cracking other apps, blocking license veryfication, adblocks and other illegal things
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So wouldn't that make things like Ad Free and ROM Toolbox illegal since they almost do the same thing when it comes to blocking ads? Those apps stop you from receiving ads while lucky patcher stops the apps from sending a request for them. Both stop the ads while lucky patcher stops the apps from sending a request for them which will increase your battery life. A while back I read something on MSN news about how these ads diminish battery life and this is just a way to stop that. Either way, lucky patcher AND apps like ROM Toolbox and Ad Free would technically be illegal because they both stop the ads. It all depends on how you use them. That's like saying apps like Root Explorer are illegal because you can copy data you've downloaded online for a paid app and use it for free when most of us use it in different ways.
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read carefuly, "cracking other apps, blocking license veryfication"... adblocking is one from those things. You can download app for free, but you have to accept adverts. Simply.

ovitz said:
read carefuly, "cracking other apps, blocking license veryfication"... adblocking is one from those things. You can download app for free, but you have to accept adverts. Simply.
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Not to be rude, but its MY phone. I can put on/take off, block whatever I want on it. I get all my ad blockers from the Play Store.
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I played around with permissions for fun. I changed some on words free and it resulted in a boot loop. Wipe cache wipe dalvik fix permissions and still a boot loop.. I had to do a full wipe.. be warned. Do a full backup if you plan to mess around with this thing
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andrew.cambridge said:
Not to be rude, but its MY phone. I can put on/take off, block whatever I want on it. I get all my ad blockers from the Play Store.
Sent my Atrix that is faster than most phones
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Yes, I know, but pre4speed ask "Anyone have the apk? Can't seem to find it in play store.", so I told him why

ovitz said:
read carefuly, "cracking other apps, blocking license veryfication"... adblocking is one from those things. You can download app for free, but you have to accept adverts. Simply.
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So you're saying Ad Free and ROM Toolbox are illegal? There's no difference between between not sending a request for an ad and not receiving an ad. Either way, the ad is not being shown and the people who made the apps are not getting paid. So just about every ROM out there is illegal because it contains ROM Toolbox?
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Neroga said:
So you're saying Ad Free and ROM Toolbox are illegal? There's no difference between between not sending a request for an ad and not receiving an ad. Either way, the ad is not being shown and the people who made the apps are not getting paid. So just about every ROM out there is illegal because it contains ROM Toolbox?
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I think the major issue is "cracking other apps". AdFree simply blocks ad urls (via HOSTS), it does not block the application from requesting the ad from the internet. The app in question modifies other program code to remove the ad functionality, etc - this is the licensing issue....
Edit: I don't use ROM Toolbox, but its description does say that it blocks ads by IP as well, same as AdFree. Blocking Internet traffic in/out is one thing, modifying other licensed code for this app's reason is quite another. While I understand the battery life issue and it does make sense, you agree to the ads when you install the (quite often Free) apps.....
Edit2: Don't get me wrong, if you use it and it works, use it - it is your phone. This is simply the reason you won't find it on the Play Store!

god damn it... read carefuly, it's just examples... using ROM Toolbox isn't illegal to use, but you have to get rooted phone. If you have rooted phon you have violated the guarantee

ovitz said:
god damn it... read carefuly, it's just examples... using ROM Toolbox isn't illegal to use, but you have to get rooted phone. If you have rooted phon you have violated the guarantee
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LOL and this too :good:

That's the problem in itself. Yes. Free apps. They get paid for the advertising. So modifying the app or just blocking it via host files does the same thing. Stops the ads. Meaning that both are technically illegal.
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ovitz said:
Yes, I know, but pre4speed ask "Anyone have the apk? Can't seem to find it in play store.", so I told him why
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Just a side note. He (meaning me) is a she. Lol. Thanx for the info

On the note of piracyy, has anyone heard that the protection of apps has increased in jelly bean and it is not possible to crack new apps that will include this feature?

pre4speed said:
Just a side note. He (meaning me) is a she. Lol. Thanx for the info
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Lol its a stereotype not many women users on xda.
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does lucky patcher work on Jelly Bean?

Anti virus

Does anybody run a anti virus scanner on their phone.. if so which one...
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I use Lookout sometimes
That said, as long as you check what permissions the apps you're installing are asking for, you're fine
I mean, an RPG game does not need access to your contacts or permissions to send SMS messages
The best antivirus in the end, is an observant end user
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I use Comodo which I also use on my home computer. It does a lot more than just scan apps. I love it and its free.
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I use lookout and it works great for me. Scans everything i download and backs up contacts. Also has good locate and scream case you lose it and will save last location before your phone dies. But as Cnexus said being observant of what you download is your best protection. Hope this helps!
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CNexus said:
I use Lookout sometimes
That said, as long as you check what permissions the apps you're installing are asking for, you're fine
I mean, an RPG game does not need access to your contacts or permissions to send SMS messages
The best antivirus in the end, is an observant end user
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I agree %100 with the Observant end user.I've never used antivirus on my phone,just another app to lag it down,lol.

Diablo67 said:
I agree %100 with the Observant end user.I've never used antivirus on my phone,just another app to lag it down,lol.
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Just what I was thinking.. I only DL from the play store and here...
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Not advocating piracy, but if you pirate apps that have been cracked then an AV is a good choice. But as the second post the best av is you paying attention to what the app accesses.
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Watch the permissions when you install and steer clear of skecthy sources.

I use web root secure anywhere. It has turned up some Trojans in some ROMs which kind of blew me away. I thought everything on xda was safe.
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Has anyone actually gotten a virus on android?
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Has anyone actually gotten a virus on android?
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Well to begin with, the fact that android is based on Linux makes it even harder to exploit because of the whole permissions structure
On top of that you have the Android app permissions system and you have something very difficult to exploit in itself....I've never gotten one, but I've heard of malicious apps getting released (on the play store) back in the baby stages of Android (when froyo was just out) that used the froyo rooting exploits to bypass security checks and mess with the stuff on your phone.
But other than that, I've never heard of a any virus/exploit/targeted attack on android devices

The latest Android virus that I know of is BadNews.. It hit a few apps a few days ago, in the google play store. I believe it infected something like 2 Million phones.
So saying "I just get them from Google Play store" doesn't keep you safe.. Because apps are not tested before they hit the play store, and most of the android virus hit via the play store.
And if you have never heard of a virus that targets the Android, it's because you haven't taken the time to actually see if any actually exist. Linux is not hard to exploit, and neither is Android.

CNexus said:
I use Lookout sometimes
That said, as long as you check what permissions the apps you're installing are asking for, you're fine
I mean, an RPG game does not need access to your contacts or permissions to send SMS messages
The best antivirus in the end, is an observant end user
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Completely agree on that the best anti virus is yourself. I don't even use one on my computers because most viruses mask themselves as anti virus programs.
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CNexus said:
Well to begin with, the fact that android is based on Linux makes it even harder to exploit because of the whole permissions structure
On top of that you have the Android app permissions system and you have something very difficult to exploit in itself....I've never gotten one, but I've heard of malicious apps getting released (on the play store) back in the baby stages of Android (when froyo was just out) that used the froyo rooting exploits to bypass security checks and mess with the stuff on your phone.
But other than that, I've never heard of a any virus/exploit/targeted attack on android devices
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So where good on jellybean right? I dont run any anti-virus, same reason as Diablo..

souleman said:
And if you have never heard of a virus that targets the Android, it's because you haven't taken the time to actually see if any actually exist. Linux is not hard to exploit, and neither is Android.
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Android is based on Linux. And if you say Linux is not hard to exploit, I suggest you do some reading yourself.

AdAway

dont know why suddenly it just got off the playstore.
disappeared.
googled up abit and i found this
https://code.google.com/p/ad-away/
I received an email from Google Play that AdAway was removed due to "Violation of section 4.4 of the Developer Distribution Agreement." Thus, it will never be available on Google Play again. Please switch to F-Droid, the open alternative to Google Play!
Allow app installs from 'unknown sources'
Download https://f-droid.org/FDroid.apk to your device
Install this apk
Open F-Droid and search for AdAway
AdAway
AdAway is an open source ad blocker for Android using the hosts file. It needs Android >= 2.1 and ROOT access.
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what's F-droid ? like playstore ? is it safe ?

Google Removes All Ad-Blocker Apps From Google Play Store
not sure.. there was a good one Adfree.. even thats gone..
something i found here
http://www.heavy.com/regions/2013/03/google-removes-ad-blocker-apps-from-google-play-store/

Google banned all apps that are blocking adverts from Play. Fck google!

Just found out the same by trying to install an ad blocker on my friend's phone.
I would say F-Droid is pretty safe, at least the AdAway author recommends it!
"Don't be evil?"

Rom Toolbox pro still does adblocking, though I'm not sure if it's as good as or better than Adaway or ABP were. Rom Toolbox Pro is absolutely worth the money for any root user anyway.

Google has also sent an email to jrummy, so even that will be taken down soon.

I got a copy a adaway, if anyone wants it lemme know.
Wtf is Google doing ?
Are they tracking users as well ?

ROM Toolbox includes an ad blocker.

Since Adaway is opensource I've compiled it and posted the latest version here.
its newer than what was in the play store.

Google!!
No one likes adverts and pop ups, Wtf!?
Please don't end up like Apple
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feartheanonymity said:
Google!!
No one likes adverts and pop ups, Wtf!?
Please don't end up like Apple
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Really? Nothing is stopping you from side loading apk's outside of the Play Store, and the adblock apps did break Google's TOS.
But you're right, no one likes ads, but how do you think devs earns money? By giving away their hard work for free? Nope.
If you don't like ads, then buy an ad-free version of the app or side load an adblocker and move on.
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Of course I'm all for supporting devs, and if am app is worth paying for I will pay for it.
Most of the ads are just crap and not related to other apps, just things like "increase your penis size by 10"
But rules are rules so i have to accept your comment and agree with you. Side loading apps is okay now n then, but can attract bogus apps so users should be cautious.
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feartheanonymity said:
Of course I'm all for supporting devs, and if am app is worth paying for I will pay for it.
Most of the ads are just crap and not related to other apps, just things like "increase your penis size by 10"
But rules are rules so i have to accept your comment and agree with you. Side loading apps is okay now n then, but can attract bogus apps so users should be cautious.
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Yup, that's just the way it is.

F Droid is a store ONLY for open source apps! So it is to be trusted

just got f-droid.
thank u all for your replies. hope this discussion stays healthy and perhaps in the future there can be some kind of win-win situation.

feartheanonymity said:
Most of the ads are just crap and not related to other apps, just things like "increase your penis size by 10"
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Who would want a 20" penis?

tdodd said:
Who would want a 20" penis?
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Hahaha that's made my day :thumbup:
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If you have a rooted phone,
Search a adblock host file here on xda or in a rom you have somewhere and put it manualy with rootexplorer in
/System/etc
Replace the empty existed one
I have a lot of ad block host file on my sdcard and all my rooted phone have it and no ads come on my phone.
All apps on the store just replace/mirror your default host file with a updated one.
But I think it's better to do this manualy,because this host file is very sensistive for network and if you have a bad line in,then a virus or malware could pass.
Or
if it to strong,then you cannot surf on certain site or watch video.
To edit it,
just go on google dash and ads notifier panel,
and copy all network adress,then put them in your edited host file for block it

AW: AdAway
yani2000 said:
I would say F-Droid is pretty safe, at least the AdAway author recommends it!
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Think so too. Installed Fdroid.apk and AdAway, Avast said nothing after scanning the files.
I don't speak English, I speak bad English.

Thanks for sharing this