[Q] New to rooting..rooting pros and cons? - Galaxy S I9000 General

I am new to rooting and have a sprint samsung galaxy s 2 epic 4g touch. What are the pros to rooting these new and improved cell phones available now? Just curious as I have been reading about the hype of rooting and the headaches that can come along with rooting as well.
Thx in advance.

oi,you have just to decide if you prefer to deal with the headaches which you can get from an unrooted device or..the headaches you can get from a rooted one
i personally prefer to deal with a rooted device as the majority of people here at xda,the advatages from rooting are countless: you have full control of all the functionalities,theme your rom,install custom and better optimized roms,back up your system and restore it with a click using recovery,etc..
an easygoing explaination here and here

Well, personally I got one big reason to root my phone: to get ad-free apps ^^ Seriously, playing Angry Birds without ads feels so refreshing lol. Plus it's cool to have the ability to mess around with your phone as you wish, to get to browse all the system folders etc.
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skeletonboy said:
oi,you have just to decide if you prefer to deal with the headaches which you can get from an unrooted device or..the headaches you can get from a rooted one
i personally prefer to deal with a rooted device as the majority of people here at xda,the advatages from rooting are countless: you have full control of all the functionalities,theme your rom,install custom and better optimized roms,back up your system and restore it with a click using recovery,etc..
an easygoing explaination here and here
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Hum, 95% of these advantages can be done without Rooting but with a Kernel that support CWM:
_ install zip from CWM to install ROM or Theme
_ Backup / Restore : can make a dump of 100% of the phone in Recovery
There's no reason to use CWM App to backup / restore / install a ROM. Only an Advanced kernel is needed, and must be installed the first time via Odin.
My only reason to have Root on my phone is Titanium Backup.. I don't use some "Ad-free" program or "Bypass the Market" tip, good apps must be paid as reward of the work.

Thanks to all for your posts. Slane, your post especially interests me. If I am reading your post correctly, you can install a kernel without rooting? From what I've read from other posts, once you root your phone you cannot get automatic updates?
Where can I find an advanced kernel? I think that my main concern with rooting is the potential that I will lose the wifi capabilities. I have read so many posts where an individual rooted their phone and lost wifi capabilities. Another concern of mine in the rooting process is with Kies. The only version that I could find uses wifi instead of USB connectivity.
Thx in advance for your feedback.

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[Q] to root or not to root?

just got my tf101 and updated to 3.1 and all stock. Now what is the benefit of rooting? What does it gives you that stock cant.
I'm curious about this as well.
Freezing apps
Backing up aps
Removing bloatware with superuser
Many more advantages as well
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Rooting isn't for everyone, really. Many users will derive as much pleasure from stock TFs just because that what they feel comfortable with and that's cool.
Rooting opens up many options to the user experience. Many apps (Titanium Backup is one....and probably a must have) will not install without root. You'll find, after time, many great custom ROMs that add functions and user interface enhancements you could onl get rooted. Overclocking? Can't leave that out! Being able to overclock your TF will speed up your machine and provide much staisfaction. Games? Way better. Some of the genius devs here can tweak so many parts of the TF and android experience ... you'll wonder why you didn't root earlier.
Finally, you'll learn about android and learning is really what it's all about.
Does the overclocking help on things like laggy keyboards?
How is access to root handled in Android? Can any app at any time use root (that would be quite dangerous) or does it have to ask for permission (password or pin maybe?) like sudo in Linux?
It prompts for SU/Root access and you can either allow, deny or always allow.
turbulent28 said:
Does the overclocking help on things like laggy keyboards?
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Yes it could, but is not the main reason.
Most of the time it depends on the rom that you have installed, from my personal experience.
Overclocking improve functionality generally speaking, so it could help for some lag issue, but I would say that mainly depends on the rom and, precisely, if you have lots of bloadware installed, or how many app are you running at the same time and so on....
I would like to come up with some really awesome justified reason why I rooted/custom rom/overclocked but to be honest the real answer is... Because I could
What is Asus's status on rooting? I take it they wash their hands of it and basically will say it invalidates your warranty. But I feel they should at least aknowledge it as OK if you are able to flash back to stock and confirm any problems exist with the stock rom. But I guess that's just not how it works unfortunately?
is it possible to root from 3.1 ? directly
pretty sure as long as you create a backup you can go back to stock without any evidence of rooting...
juliensch said:
is it possible to root from 3.1 ? directly
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Yes, I just did this yesterday. The instructions are in the "[ROM] Transformer 3.1 pure root" in the developers section. It only took about 10 minutes. Fairly straight forward. I did not lose any apps or data. Make sure to load the Asus Sync and USB drivers from Asus on your computer before you start. Several folks ran into issues with that.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125714
Mostly I've been able to backup using Titanium Backup. I was hoping to be able to map shares using cifs, but sadly I can't get it to work.
Can Mac users go through the root process?
I don't think the above process works from a Mac. Sorry.
nv88 said:
I don't think the above process works from a Mac. Sorry.
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Is there any root process that will work for Mac users?
Dorkington said:
Is there any root process that will work for Mac users?
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It does work in linux with some adaptation of the commands in the scripts and you do not require any installation of drivers from asus. Most distros can easily be used with the adb dev kit
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It does work in linux with some adaptation of the commands in the scripts and you do not require any installation of drivers from asus. Most distros can easily be used with the adb dev kit
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Ok, what about using Parallels/Boot Camp? I haven't booted into Windows in a while, but I should still be able to.
I have rooted every phone I had, but that was to replace roms and remove bloatware that was unremovable. With 3.1 I don't feel the need to do either. Since the apps install in the storage partition they are not flooding a small partition like on the phone. I would have a real hard time filling the 32 GB with apps. Second, I really don't see anything in the available alternative roms that I want. What are other's finding in 3rd party roms? Overclocking might be nice, but not at the cost of either reliability or battery life.
jerrykur said:
I have rooted every phone I had, but that was to replace roms and remove bloatware that was unremovable. With 3.1 I don't feel the need to do either. Since the apps install in the storage partition they are not flooding a small partition like on the phone. I would have a real hard time filling the 32 GB with apps. Second, I really don't see anything in the available alternative roms that I want. What are other's finding in 3rd party roms? Overclocking might be nice, but not at the cost of either reliability or battery life.
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I agree with everything you've said here. The only reason I rooted 3.1 was to install titanium backup. I've tried a couple 3.1 custom roms, but there was nothing really exciting about them that made them really standout from stock.

[Q] What is your benefit of a rooted device?

Hi all
Everyone wants to root his device, but why exactly are YOU rooting it? What is your motivation, from which feature do you gain something?
Please answer with specific apps which you are using and which do need root.
Thanks
Dominik
I had a Toshiba Folio 100 before (it was my first android device)... but because of very bad toshiba software I had to put a custom (rooted) rom on it two hours after I got the device at home...
In this case I used the root to tweak everything to make it work better and better, but also for Titanium backup...
When I got my second android device (the galaxy apollo), I rooted it, only for titanium backup, just to port some appdata from my folio to my apollo... I don't really need to tweak this device...
Now I have my transformer, I don't feel like rooting it... I have setup everything properly... The only reason why I would root it now is to install (again) titanium backup, and restore my Angry Birds data (Does any-one know a non-root way to do this )... I'm not gonna root this great device for that...
I rooted mine because I can, no kidding. Then I was able to take control of my tf. I deleted stuff from my system/data that was bloat using root explorer. Sometimes you need no reason to root but to be able to say...yea it's rooted..
Main reason I rooted my Android phone was to get rid of the stock HTC Sense, which IMO was quite bloated and slow. I put a custom ROM on and have a lot more free space, a HUGE improvement on battery life (I'm talking about a day extra) from the custom ROM and optimised kernel.
In the case of my Transformer, it is mainly rooted to take advantage of a custom kernel. With a custom, and appropriately optimised, kernel you can theoretically (and most importantly, in practice) improve the performance and/or battery life of your Android device through overclocking or underclocking respectively. I won't get into the nerdy details of the Linux kernel, but in a nutshell that's what is possible (among many other things) with an optimised kernel.
Apart from kernels I also rooted my device with the hope of Google eventually releasing the Honeycomb (Android 3.x) source code, so we can start to see some actual creativity from the more skilled members of the XDA community. I'm talking about custom ROMs that can totally change the way you experience your Android device. If you want an example, look up MIUI ROM and then compare it to stock Android ROM... of course this is with Android 2.x but this sort of variation and creativity is what we should look forward to (assuming Google eventually open up and stop being shy about their source).
Also not to mention the efforts of the people getting Ubuntu to work on the TF. This means you are able to run a full-blown desktop OS on your tablet alongside Android if you ever want to do more than what Android limits you to.
But really, you own the device so you choose what you want to do with it. If this type of stuff seems a bit over your head or you're pretty happy with a stock standard Honeycomb experience, then you never have to worry about rooting. But I say, get the most out of your device and root it
Any other questions, or if you don't understand some of the terms I used, ask me and I'll make sure to explain it better
The main reason for me is it lets you view and write to the /system and /data partitions. You can then install crap apps you don't like cluttering up your menus, and also transfer APKs you do like to other devices.
Also rooting and installing your own kernel is AFAIK the only way to allow ad-hoc wifi connections with your tablet. For some people with phones whose wifi tethering is based on ad-hoc, this is very important.
I just wanted to put patched host file to makse tf run faster
Its not bloated like sense
I had planned on rootin my TF first thing after taking it home.
It's almost a month now and haven't still rooted the thing. I have not needed doing it still... I tried and then unrooted and kept stock.
Regards.
life64x said:
I rooted mine because I can, no kidding. Then I was able to take control of my tf. I deleted stuff from my system/data that was bloat using root explorer. Sometimes you need no reason to root but to be able to say...yea it's rooted..
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I second this!!! Give me freedom on my computer!!! I buy android because I don't want somebody(steve jobs/bill gates) telling me what I can and can't do!!!
Titanium Backup for game saves.
The first thing I benefit of, and when it comes to rooting is adfree, and then of course titaniumbackup, rootexplorer.
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On phones, I root because I want to reove all the garbage that is installed there and to have Titanium backup and Cyanogen ROMS.
I have one TF that is rooted and running Prime and another that is stock and, so far, unrooted. For the TF, root is not as imperative as for the phones...

[Q] First time Tablet/Android buyer.

Hello all,
I just ordered a new Note 10.1 from Costco.com (32 gig) and from reading reviews and such I was thrown into the world of rooting. For my job, we were given iPhones so I've really only had an iPhone and am used to the iOS. Not a fan. Have always wanted to try Android but have never been thrown into it.
Are there any good guides out there to help me better understand rooting, etc.? I understand that you have to unlock it, then flash a custom ROM. What happens when the newer version of that ROM comes out? Do you lose all of your Data? Can any mod be installed on any ROM? I just don't have a good understanding of how or what to do. Granted, I don't even have the tablet yet, however, I don't want to be completely lost when I get it. I do like the idea of rooting, given that you can install powerful apps that are only offered to rooted tablets.
This is my first post here and am hoping for some helpful responses of maybe some threads that I should read to help me understand things better.
Also, where do you find custom ROMS? Is there a certain section you have to go? Or are all the custom ROMS under the ANDROID DEVELOPMENT forum?
Thanks for the help.
Rooting gives you access to the base files of your device. Your device does not need to be "unlocked." That term refers to modifying the device to work with other carriers (i.e. Sprint, ATT, etc) other than the one it was built to work with. Basically, in order to root, you must first install a custom "recovery." CWM (Clockwork Mod Recovery) is probably the best one for our Notes. The recovery files can be downloaded in the development forums. Along with the program (Odin) that you use to get the recovery installed onto your Note. Once you have CWM installed you can then use a couple of different methods to root or install a custom rom that is already rooted (again look for these roms in the development areas of this forum). Make sure that you read and re-read the instructions that each developer lists on their forum until you feel comfortable and then follow the instructions to the letter! Not doing so can result in your Note really getting messed up. I have not rooted my note yet, however I have rooted and installed custom ROMs to several android phones that I have or have had and it can be really worth it to do so. Personally I am waiting for awhile with my Note for some easier and more reliable methods and ROMs to become available. Right now, I have a Samsung Infuse phone with CM10 installed and a Samsung Captivate with Slim Rom-Jellybean on it. I believe that early versions of both of these ROMs are already available for the Note 10.1. Of the two ROMs, I would probably go with CM10 - (Cyanogen Mod) as it seems to be more stable on my phones. Also, when you install a custom ROM on the Note 10.1, there is a binary counter that advances, that lets anyone who would have to work on it (like for warranty service), know that a custom ROM was installed and that would violate your warranty. There is already a modification available (again, in the development section), that resets this counter, so make sure that you research that too! Good Luck!!!
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Rooting gives you access to the base files of your device. Your device does not need to be "unlocked." That term refers to modifying the device to work with other carriers (i.e. Sprint, ATT, etc) other than the one it was built to work with. Basically, in order to root, you must first install a custom "recovery." CWM (Clockwork Mod Recovery) is probably the best one for our Notes. The recovery files can be downloaded in the development forums. Along with the program (Odin) that you use to get the recovery installed onto your Note. Once you have CWM installed you can then use a couple of different methods to root or install a custom rom that is already rooted (again look for these roms in the development areas of this forum). Make sure that you read and re-read the instructions that each developer lists on their forum until you feel comfortable and then follow the instructions to the letter! Not doing so can result in your Note really getting messed up. I have not rooted my note yet, however I have rooted and installed custom ROMs to several android phones that I have or have had and it can be really worth it to do so. Personally I am waiting for awhile with my Note for some easier and more reliable methods and ROMs to become available. Right now, I have a Samsung Infuse phone with CM10 installed and a Samsung Captivate with Slim Rom-Jellybean on it. I believe that early versions of both of these ROMs are already available for the Note 10.1. Of the two ROMs, I would probably go with CM10 - (Cyanogen Mod) as it seems to be more stable on my phones. Also, when you install a custom ROM on the Note 10.1, there is a binary counter that advances, that lets anyone who would have to work on it (like for warranty service), know that a custom ROM was installed and that would violate your warranty. There is already a modification available (again, in the development section), that resets this counter, so make sure that you research that too! Good Luck!!!
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What are some of the main benefits to rooting then? I would think that if you have rooted a lot of phones you would for sure want your tablet rooted..?? Can you still perform mods to your tablet if it's NOT rooted? I saw someone with a cube on their homescreen with all their apps on it. It was 3D and pretty sweet looking. Will I be able to do stuff like that if I keep it stock.
Another thing, I read that you can't put apps on the expandable storage unless you root it...That is something I would like to do because I plan on putting games on it and such. Seems crappy you can't install some of the bigger apps on your 64 gig sd.
A lot is going to depend on which version of software you get initially on your tablet. Do not, I repeat, DO NOT let your tablet update the software when you first get it. The reason I say this is, if you have the older version of the software there is a very simple way to root your device. It's a simple install of one program and pushing a button. Very very easy.
If you get lucky and you get the older software and then root using the program I'm talking about, the next step is to spend $5 and buy Mobile Odin Pro. You can then download from here the latest software for your device and flash it using Mobile Odin with the ever root option. This will keep root on your new software. This will put you on the latest stock software and keep you rooted.
Custom ROMs can be nice. But I'd get my feet wet with the stock ROM before you start to jump into the Customs. First, stock on the Note 10.1 is pretty damn good. Second, you need to have some familiarity with what you want to be able to choose the right custom ROM to suit your needs. Finally, you'll give yourself some time to learn about your device so that you don't make a fatal mistake flashing, though most can be flashed using Mobile Odin.
Alas, if you get your Note and it turns out to have the latest ROM already, you can pretty much ignore everything I wrote.
just to give you one more thing to think about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957002
stock is nice btw
midas69 said:
A lot is going to depend on which version of software you get initially on your tablet. Do not, I repeat, DO NOT let your tablet update the software when you first get it. The reason I say this is, if you have the older version of the software there is a very simple way to root your device. It's a simple install of one program and pushing a button. Very very easy.
If you get lucky and you get the older software and then root using the program I'm talking about, the next step is to spend $5 and buy Mobile Odin Pro. You can then download from here the latest software for your device and flash it using Mobile Odin with the ever root option. This will keep root on your new software. This will put you on the latest stock software and keep you rooted.
Custom ROMs can be nice. But I'd get my feet wet with the stock ROM before you start to jump into the Customs. First, stock on the Note 10.1 is pretty damn good. Second, you need to have some familiarity with what you want to be able to choose the right custom ROM to suit your needs. Finally, you'll give yourself some time to learn about your device so that you don't make a fatal mistake flashing, though most can be flashed using Mobile Odin.
Alas, if you get your Note and it turns out to have the latest ROM already, you can pretty much ignore everything I wrote.
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That's good to know. Thank you.
jaydubbbbs said:
just to give you one more thing to think about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957002
stock is nice btw
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Thank you. I'll check that out. Now, the process that you linked me to, will that give me the latest version ROM (4.2.1?). Another thing, once I root it, will I be able to have the Tablet automatically update and download 4.3, 4.4, etc. and so on? or will I have to manually download and install the new one every time it comes out?
I read in sammobile that samsung will launch Note 8.0, it is true?
What do you think?
rooting
deeselcyde said:
That's good to know. Thank you.
Thank you. I'll check that out. Now, the process that you linked me to, will that give me the latest version ROM (4.2.1?). Another thing, once I root it, will I be able to have the Tablet automatically update and download 4.3, 4.4, etc. and so on? or will I have to manually download and install the new one every time it comes out?
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I have rooted several phones but not this tablet. Why? because for me the stock rom is good enough that I personally dont see an advantage to rooting it. Some like to root and install roms for the fun of it but I need the tablet to work and dont have time to futs around with getting to know a new rom.
I also have the impression,correct me if I'm wrong, that with custom roms you loose some of the multiscreen functionality and some of the pen functionality? If true that alone would keep me on stock.
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I have rooted several phones but not this tablet. Why? because for me the stock rom is good enough that I personally dont see an advantage to rooting it. Some like to root and install roms for the fun of it but I need the tablet to work and dont have time to futs around with getting to know a new rom.
I also have the impression,correct me if I'm wrong, that with custom roms you loose some of the multiscreen functionality and some of the pen functionality? If true that alone would keep me on stock.
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There's more reasons to root other than just flashing custom ROMs. As a matter of fact, you really don't even have to root to install a custom ROM, you just need a custom recovery installed.
Personally I'm fine with the stock ROM on this tablet even though I run custom ROMs on my phones. I did have a custom ROM installed for a few weeks that was little more than the stock ROM with a few tweaks. It didn't lose any functionality with regards to multi-screen or pen. But some of the other more customized ROMs do lose functionality.
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I have rooted several phones but not this tablet. Why? because for me the stock rom is good enough that I personally dont see an advantage to rooting it. Some like to root and install roms for the fun of it but I need the tablet to work and dont have time to futs around with getting to know a new rom.
I also have the impression,correct me if I'm wrong, that with custom roms you loose some of the multiscreen functionality and some of the pen functionality? If true that alone would keep me on stock.
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The only thing I care about is having the ability to install Google Apps that can only be installed on rooted ROMS. I've read that there are a lot of great apps for rooted ONLY tablets. Also, some of those 3D cube thingy's that have all the app icons on it are kind of cool. I don't know if you can install those on a stock ROM..??
deeselcyde said:
That's good to know. Thank you.
Thank you. I'll check that out. Now, the process that you linked me to, will that give me the latest version ROM (4.2.1?). Another thing, once I root it, will I be able to have the Tablet automatically update and download 4.3, 4.4, etc. and so on? or will I have to manually download and install the new one every time it comes out?
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no, it leaves the firmware as is and it simply gives you root access, i.e. administrative control over just about all processes that the tablet is capable of. It also allows you to flash custom ROMS. that method, along with the exynos exploit method ( not possible on 4.1.2), leave you as close to stock as possible . and leaves the official recovery. Someone will undoubtedly correct me if I am wrong, but so long as you don't flash a custom ROM, I believe you can still update through OTA. I know you can through KIES. If you do go with a custom ROM, I'm pretty sure you lose all the touch wiz goodies, like multi screen as another noted above. and likely would have to use ODIN or mobile ODIN to update.
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What are some of the main benefits to rooting then? I would think that if you have rooted a lot of phones you would for sure want your tablet rooted..?? Can you still perform mods to your tablet if it's NOT rooted? I saw someone with a cube on their homescreen with all their apps on it. It was 3D and pretty sweet looking. Will I be able to do stuff like that if I keep it stock.
Another thing, I read that you can't put apps on the expandable storage unless you root it...That is something I would like to do because I plan on putting games on it and such. Seems crappy you can't install some of the bigger apps on your 64 gig sd.
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Custom apps such as multi window manager. Custom roms if you wish. Overclock cpu with tegrak on stock rooted, it does sometimes come in handy to be safely overclocked. personally this tablet is so good off the shelf you dont NEED a custom rom but that overclock is good. Ability to access and change root files such as dolphin preference in order to make it work with flash player. More reliable backups of apps and data with titanium backup. There are a plethera of reasons for rooting a tablet. But do be cautious.
Don't forget you need root for AdAway. You also need root if you want to play around (very dangerous) with the build.prop file to try to install programs that the Play Store says aren't compatible.
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The only thing I care about is having the ability to install Google Apps that can only be installed on rooted ROMS. I've read that there are a lot of great apps for rooted ONLY tablets. Also, some of those 3D cube thingy's that have all the app icons on it are kind of cool. I don't know if you can install those on a stock ROM..??
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The 3d cube things I think your talking about are scroll effects, like cube, sphere or card stack. You dont need to be rooted for these, you can just download a launcher (nova, apex, adw) from the play store and change the effects in there.
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jaydubbbbs said:
just to give you one more thing to think about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957002
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One more question about that link. So once I follow the instructions provided in the link to root my Note 10.1, will I still have the custom ROM? And, will I be able to auto update from Samsung or whoever whenever a new version of the Android ROM comes out? I don't necessarily care about having someones custom ROM, I just want the benefits of using the GAPPS that I wouldn't be able to use if I wasn't rooted.
Thanks.

[Q] Should i root my Samsung galaxy S4?

Hi guys! I got my Samsung galaxy s4 first day of release and I really like it, I had an iPhone before and I jailbroke it because it made it so much better, but the question is, is rooting just as good as jailbreaking? Should I root my galaxy s4? It can sometimes be a bit laggy on the home screen and was wondering if a custom rom would fix it?
Michael1290 said:
Hi guys! I got my Samsung galaxy s4 first day of release and I really like it, I had an iPhone before and I jailbroke it because it made it so much better, but the question is, is rooting just as good as jailbreaking? Should I root my galaxy s4? It can sometimes be a bit laggy on the home screen and was wondering if a custom rom would fix it?
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You don't need to root it, its already good enough and if the small lag bothers you, have you tried other launchers such as Nova launcher? It's almost lag free.
But if you want the best experience from your S4 then yes root it, try CF auto root, but remember you lose warranty and anything can go wrong, so try to follow instructions properly and always backup your important data.
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You don't need to root it, its already good enough and if the small lag bothers you, have you tried other launchers such as Nova launcher? It's almost lag free.
But if you want the best experience from your S4 then yes root it, try CF auto root, but remember you lose warranty and anything can go wrong, so try to follow instructions properly and always backup your important data.
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Thanks for the reply, I did try go launcher but just couldn't get used to it so I went back, but will give nova launcher a go. If I did root is it easy to un root it if I don't like it?
Michael1290 said:
Thanks for the reply, I did try go launcher but just couldn't get used to it so I went back, but will give nova launcher a go. If I did root is it easy to un root it if I don't like it?
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Yes its very easy to un-root, you can always flash a stock rom via Odin, and some custom rom have an option to unroot your phone.
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Yes its very easy to un-root, you can always flash a stock rom via Odin, and some custom rom have an option to unroot your phone.
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What about triangle away and resetting the binary counter back to zero? I think its not possible right now on i9500 variant.
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yes right now its not possible for the i9500
Rooting all depends on your usage.
The benefits being custom roms, but again it all depends if you want to keep flashing and ensuring you always maximize the phone to its full potential.

			
				
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super nice and very good !
THX
If you don't know exact reason why you want to root your phone then rooting just for rooting makes no sense. Root access by itself won't make your device any better. Also try to remember that there are many guys here that blow their phones by messing with them.
I've rooted my old sgs2 after few months and used it that way. After some time the only thing I needed root for was the possibility to move apps data to sdcard.
My sgs4 is not rooted for now because I don't need it. Playing with mods or "removing bloatware" is total nonsense to me as I prefer stable device. Also flashing custom roms is nor for me. So widely spoken app Titanium Backup I've used maybe twice in a year, the same I can say about clockwork mod. Just have no time to mess and repair all the time because I need working device as it helps me a lot in my work as smartphone and assistant, not as subject to experiments.
Guy from that video nicely explained what is root for and all of this is definitely true (part about security can be controversial because rooting and installing su does not patch security hole and permission prompt appear only when root access is achieved by su not by security hole), but for me in everyday use it turned to be as useful as towel for a fish.
Android by itself is very good in terms of functionality and far from being restricted in a apple way. You cannot compare root to jailbreak because jb on iphone is needed to get some basic functions. Android has all of this out of the box.
Remember also that rooted phone looses OTA upgrade possibility.
Everything depends on how you use your phone - there is the answer to your question
I am the complete opposite. If I have a device running an os, whether it be a computer, smartphone or whatever, I want full control of the device and it's os as it should be. I want full axx, full power of it.
edit: forgot why I came here in the first place, to the OP, glad you liked the vid and also glad my post wasn't wasted space like the majority of posts I see on here all the time, take it easy.
Rooting all depends on your need while using s4
If you're asking yourself that question then no, you shouldn't root it.

1st time flash ROM - What a blast!

Hello all;
I thought I would share my root/flash ROM experience with others, not necessarily those who are pros, more folks like me, technically literate but this process is new.
I picked up my One the first day it was available, I had it pre-ordered from [email protected] and have been a long time iPhone user. I was tired of waiting for the jb and once I saw the specs on the One I was sold.
I was fine with Apex launcher and Widget locker for quite awhile, but then the mod bug started. I followed qbking77's vid's to perform the unlock and root. I made sure to backup everything with Helium and I also did a copy of my Android drive to my Mac just to make sure I had everything. I used Helium to Google Drive and that worked very well. I had to make sure to load Google Drive after the wipe and log into it before I was able to restore my data.
So I sat at root for awhile, but it was a matter of time until I flashed my 1st ROM, SinLessROM GE v3.6.2. After reading everything on here I could find, I decided on the SinLess Rom. I always say, never start something technical late, but I did not heed my own advice. I used Titanium to do my backup, along with Helium again. Then the moment of truth, TWRP and wipe. I go to install in recovery and find the zip and bam, error number 1!!! Well it turns out I had Safari on expand after download and did not have the .zip. I get a little freaked out. I turned on the phone and it started working through the normal HTC One load (remember that), I finally am able to move the correct .zip to the phone. Then I install it, it works!! Yeah! The phone starts up but just sits and sits at the google screen. I then realize I started the phone after I did the wipe and did not re-wipe it. So, I re-wipe it, re-install and Sweet!!! It works like a charm!!! I had to get the new SuperSU for root, then I was able to install Xposed.
Used both Titanium and Helium to download what I needed, and its been rolling great all day and I'm loving it.
I do have 1 question, when the new version of the ROM comes out, I don't have to wipe the phone again do I? I would think I can do a dirty install.
So, hopefully if your on the fence, you will take the jump. Backup, backup and backup!
Have fun!
If it's a small update, or the same ROM, you tend not to have to wipe again (e.g. you can just flash over the top)
But if you're going to a different rom, or a major version change, then it's recommended to wipe typically.
Personally, I like to wipe between updates just as an opportunity to get rid of loads of stuff I've installed but not used
MrGuy said:
If it's a small update, or the same ROM, you tend not to have to wipe again (e.g. you can just flash over the top)
But if you're going to a different rom, or a major version change, then it's recommended to wipe typically.
Personally, I like to wipe between updates just as an opportunity to get rid of loads of stuff I've installed but not used
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Thanks for the response!
So how do you manage all your apps and data if you wipe between updates? When I wiped my data and all, I lost all my apps and data that goes with them. While I was able to being everything back, it took a few hours. Am I missing an easy way to restore? The update seems like a small update, its a 3.6.1 to 3.6.2 update.
Jack
jackpollard said:
Thanks for the response!
So how do you manage all your apps and data if you wipe between updates? When I wiped my data and all, I lost all my apps and data that goes with them. While I was able to being everything back, it took a few hours. Am I missing an easy way to restore? The update seems like a small update, its a 3.6.1 to 3.6.2 update.
Jack
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Welcome to the community!
Titanium Backup (TB) is invaluable at the point that you are at. It is well worth the price for the license on the Play Store. With TB you can backup apps, and the associated data. Just be warned though, if you ever decide to go to another ROM, you can not use the backups from the previous ROM.
Basically, going from X-ROM 1.2 to X-ROM 1.3 is fine, but if you try to restore backups from X-ROM to A-ROM, you will run into major headaches.
Hope this helps!
Hello Liskrig thanks for your hello. I read so many good things about titanium backup I bought it a while ago. It helped me when I rooted my phone. Thanks for the good advice
I went ahead and wiped the cache and then the devlic (sp) cache and then did the install. It worked with no issue and seems fine.
Jack
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Liskrig said:
Welcome to the community!
Titanium Backup (TB) is invaluable at the point that you are at. It is well worth the price for the license on the Play Store. With TB you can backup apps, and the associated data. Just be warned though, if you ever decide to go to another ROM, you can not use the backups from the previous ROM.
Basically, going from X-ROM 1.2 to X-ROM 1.3 is fine, but if you try to restore backups from X-ROM to A-ROM, you will run into major headaches.
Hope this helps!
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Now I finally find this invaluable info after all the flashing I have tried and it finally makes since. I have recently tried a few ARHD Roms and they come out so fast, I was never sure if I need to fullwipe, backup and restore or what. It's nice not to have to re-download everything.
Thanks for the heads up.
Welcome to the addiction! You'll find yourself scouring the XDA forums for rom updates and kernels in a very obsessive manner soon enough!
I do dirty flashes all the time if the changes are minor like 4.1.1 to 4.1.2...but from 4.1 to 4.3 i did a clean install
Too late...the bug has hit me back when I got the first Samsung vibrant. Now I'm looking for a killer Rom to beat the ARHD...it's stable but not the fastest. And I love the stock items...blink feed and sense makes me happy.
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HomesliceOne said:
Welcome to the addiction! You'll find yourself scouring the XDA forums for rom updates and kernels in a very obsessive manner soon enough!
I do dirty flashes all the time if the changes are minor like 4.1.1 to 4.1.2...but from 4.1 to 4.3 i did a clean install
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Too late...the bug has hit me back when I got the first Samsung vibrant. Now I'm looking for a killer Rom to beat the ARHD...it's stable but not the fastest. And I love the stock items...blink feed and sense makes me happy.
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HomesliceOne said:
Welcome to the addiction! You'll find yourself scouring the XDA forums for rom updates and kernels in a very obsessive manner soon enough!
I do dirty flashes all the time if the changes are minor like 4.1.1 to 4.1.2...but from 4.1 to 4.3 i did a clean install
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Too late...the bug has hit me back when I got the first Samsung vibrant. Now I'm looking for a killer Rom to beat the ARHD...it's stable but not the fastest. And I love the stock items...blink feed and sense makes me happy.
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Liskrig said:
Welcome to the community!
Titanium Backup (TB) is invaluable at the point that you are at. It is well worth the price for the license on the Play Store. With TB you can backup apps, and the associated data. Just be warned though, if you ever decide to go to another ROM, you can not use the backups from the previous ROM.
Basically, going from X-ROM 1.2 to X-ROM 1.3 is fine, but if you try to restore backups from X-ROM to A-ROM, you will run into major headaches.
Hope this helps!
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With system apps that's a problem but user apps are safe to restore on other roms at least in my experience.
PaulG1488 said:
With system apps that's a problem but user apps are safe to restore on other roms at least in my experience.
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^^^ this
How would anybody feed their flashaholism without that capability?
can i ask , which guide you used please?
dahmmy said:
can i ask , which guide you used please?
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Hello dahmmy;
If your question is for me regarding what guide I used to unlock and root, just search qbking77 and root htc one. I did update SuperSU to the newest version but really followed that guide to the letter. I made one concession, I used a Win7 machine instead of my Mac.
I do have a question for you all flash masters, so do I need s-off in order to update my kernels when available? I kind of get lost understanding; when the official 4.3 HTC rom comes out and its incorporated into the ROM I have loaded, when that ROM is updated, will it also upgrade my radio and all? I still have the 1.44 HBOOT so understand I can s-off. Thanks for any feedback and I will keep reading.
jackpollard said:
Hello dahmmy;
If your question is for me regarding what guide I used to unlock and root, just search qbking77 and root htc one. I did update SuperSU to the newest version but really followed that guide to the letter. I made one concession, I used a Win7 machine instead of my Mac.
I do have a question for you all flash masters, so do I need s-off in order to update my kernels when available? I kind of get lost understanding; when the official 4.3 HTC rom comes out and its incorporated into the ROM I have loaded, when that ROM is updated, will it also upgrade my radio and all? I still have the 1.44 HBOOT so understand I can s-off. Thanks for any feedback and I will keep reading.
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Hi
You don't need to s-off to load a new kernel. If you update your device with an official RUU or a zip containing a Hboot, radio or framework then those partitions will be updated. You can only make that uograde if your CID is accepted by the update (or you ar supercid and s-off). If you on the other hand flash a custom ROM the above mentioned partitions are in I think all cases removed from the ZIP.
It's hard to advice you to s-off or not, but I did it while I hade the opportunity so I could supercid the device and reset the tampered flag.
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I advise to s-off now if you have a comfortable feel with adb and cmd prompt. Its pretty straightforward, and the chances of a fatal error is extremely thin. While others will say warranty doesn't really check for unlocked and tampered stays flags, I like to be able to make it look 100% stock in case I have to send it in.
Other pros are ability to upgrade and downgrade ruus, hboots and firmwares without a hitch. You'll pretty much always have root and some other customizations are possible through an s-off device.
But as always, if you don't feel comfortable with it, the HTC one can pretty much do any average modding without s-off so its not 100% necessary.
Anyone need help with anything I'm always down through pm and I've given my phone number on a couple occasions. Happy modding :thumbup:
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Great and appreciated feedback. I did try using revone to s-off, I was using the terminal on the phone method and consistently get error = 1. I'm running hboot 1.44, but have the SinLess ROM running, I think thats the issue, I researched and it looks like cause its the GE and not Sense. I'm not sure I want to drop back and reload the stock, then reload SinLess, its so sweet I have it perfectly setup for me.
You know I have to say thanks to everyone who has read and especially commented, being this is a more technical forum then most others, I read a lot of threads that are tough on noobs like me. I've been an IT developer for the last 35 years (yeach I feel old), I was an iPhone person for years and would always jb to get my phone useful to me. When I saw the One, I was sold and never looked back. I think I've read most of the posts about the One and rooting, etc. But, still have questions of course. So I thank you all again for your feedback and great advice. Starting to feel a bit more comfortable in here.
If I can help anyone else looking to root I would happy to, just PM me. I'm so not an expert, but sometimes you just need another set of eyes to see when you don't.
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I advise to s-off now if you have a comfortable feel with adb and cmd prompt. Its pretty straightforward, and the chances of a fatal error is extremely thin. While others will say warranty doesn't really check for unlocked and tampered stays flags, I like to be able to make it look 100% stock in case I have to send it in.
Other pros are ability to upgrade and downgrade ruus, hboots and firmwares without a hitch. You'll pretty much always have root and some other customizations are possible through an s-off device.
But as always, if you don't feel comfortable with it, the HTC one can pretty much do any average modding without s-off so its not 100% necessary.
Anyone need help with anything I'm always down through pm and I've given my phone number on a couple occasions. Happy modding :thumbup:
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sauprankul said:
^^^ this
How would anybody feed their flashaholism without that capability?
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I love Titanium backup. It's saved my butt more then a few times! Same with cerberus!
Hey all, thought I would provide an update about s-off and post ROM flash. I tried a few times with revone to get s-off but no dice. After doing my research it seems due to the rom I have it won't work. I have a GE based rom. So I would say if you go through the root process you might as well do the s-off process before you flash the ROM.
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I too am coming from 6 years of iOS usage and was a die-hard Cydia users to add tweaks and themes.
But the android rooting scene is too Geeky for me. lots of places to go wrong. have been going through a ton of tutorials lately. But scared of rooting simply because i will lose my Warranty. HTC is not quite a reliable brand as i have come to know..especially with One and the famous camera tint issue. (i got a replacement for the same issue). So a bit scared.
So is there anyway we can root and keep it all stock. I mean even if unroot and lock the bootloader, it will show Relocked instead of Locked. Will the service centre people let it pass. I am dying to install ViperOne Rom for the amazing customisation it allows.
sahil sharma said:
I too am coming from 6 years of iOS usage and was a die-hard Cydia users to add tweaks and themes.
But the android rooting scene is too Geeky for me. lots of places to go wrong. have been going through a ton of tutorials lately. But scared of rooting simply because i will lose my Warranty. HTC is not quite a reliable brand as i have come to know..especially with One and the famous camera tint issue. (i got a replacement for the same issue). So a bit scared.
So is there anyway we can root and keep it all stock. I mean even if unroot and lock the bootloader, it will show Relocked instead of Locked. Will the service centre people let it pass. I am dying to install ViperOne Rom for the amazing customisation it allows.
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We share similar history, I always liked the openness of Android, but I never found a device that was as well built as an iPhone until the One. I was tempted with the nexus 4, but not sold.
I fortunately did not have any issues with my One, sorry you did
Not please remember I'm not an expert, but I understand you can go all the way back to stock, if you s-off.
Research revone. Or moonshine tools to s-off. As long as you do a nandroid backup you can always go back to how you were. Grab titanium backup and backup all your data and take your time. But you can root and leave it 100% stock and just take advantage of root only goodies.
I'm sold on Sinless GE 4.3 ROM, it's fantastic and the dev who maintains it is great. So go unlock and root it, backup backup and backup. Good luck and have fun
Jack
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fz1jmp said:
We share similar history, I always liked the openness of Android, but I never found a device that was as well built as an iPhone until the One. I was tempted with the nexus 4, but not sold.
I fortunately did not have any issues with my One, sorry you did
Not please remember I'm not an expert, but I understand you can go all the way back to stock, if you s-off.
Research revone. Or moonshine tools to s-off. As long as you do a nandroid backup you can always go back to how you were. Grab titanium backup and backup all your data and take your time. But you can root and leave it 100% stock and just take advantage of root only goodies.
I'm sold on Sinless GE 4.3 ROM, it's fantastic and the dev who maintains it is great. So go unlock and root it, backup backup and backup. Good luck and have fun
Jack
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Hey jack more than build quality i liked the way OS is optimised for the hardware. Anyway leaving iOS out of the moment.
But i dont think you can get the Bootloader to have "locked" written again. It will still come as "Re-locked" which is a giveaway i believe. Anyway i have my exams and i will be caught up with them till November. So after that maybe i will join the Flashing-wagon.

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