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Has anyone noticed any long term disadvantages to overclocking the Wizard? Does the battery life permanently decrease? What speeds are you running yours at, and how long have you been doing it? Have you noticed anything at all which indicates it's not good for the hardware?
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i believe that it's safe to overclock the mda...just set it at an acceptable rate (264mhz for me) and make sure not to run the battery all the way down...if you overclock the settings too high the device will freeze and reset (this is a fail safe procedure it goes through), so there is no need to worry...also don't overclock the settings too low as the phone becomes disfunctional when too low (about less than 132mhz for me)...the screen flickers because it's not being refreshed quick enough (my guess)...hope this helps...
I would set it to 240. I have done before, i'm just wondering if it's a bad idea leaving it permanently set to that level?
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yea you should be fine at that speed, but if you want you can overclock it higher if it will let you...just make sure that the phone is stable when using it...like i said in my earlier post my device is oc at 264mhz
Cool, thanks for your replies. How long have you had yours overclocked for? Do you use Smartskey?
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My self i ownly use it when need the extra speed, only with some games and wmv video files. I think it definitely lowers battery life and i would have worries about overclocking all the time and the long term effect it has on the processor (not so important if you only keep your wizard for a year and then change with a new contract - what i do new device once a year!) I found good speed gains with the registry wizard - http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=39725
have not found overclocking produces that much extra speed.
My self i only use it when need the extra speed, only with some games and wmv video files. I think it definitely lowers battery life and i would have worries about overclocking all the time and the long term effect it has on the processor (not so important if you only keep your wizard for a year and then change with a new contract - what i do new device once a year!) I found good speed gains with the registry wizard - http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=39725
have not found overclocking produces that much extra speed.
Mine is also set at 264 24/7. Battery still lasts me all day. Been doing it since the oc program was found which I guess has been a couple of months.
Don't forget, you're wizard is only overclocked when it is active (i.e. not in standby mode). When your wizard goes into standby, it automatically goes back to the default 180mhz. Only when you bring it out of standby does it overclock again (assuming you're running it with smartskey with the option of overclocking on wakeup)
i'm using smartkey to constantly run at 264mhz...i have been doing this for a month now...like i said there is not really any problems with the batt unless you run it down totally...there was a post about this in the overclocking thread...the process is set low so that the phone will have a longer batt life...this was also stated in the overclocking thread...theoretically there is more wear if you overclock it since you are making the processor work harder, so use it at your own risk! if you want to be on the safe side then use smartkey and the overclocking prog in the same directory...then use total commander's note pad (while the ini file is highlighted) and change the value lower when you don't want it to constantly run at 264mhz or whatever speed you want to overclock or underclock at...just use it when needed, but i overclock mine constant 264mhz with great results combined with tweaks2k2, registry wizard, and of course the tmobile custom rom ...internet is a blast...just wish i could get it to run like the IE in a pc
anyways hope this helps out a bit further...
activesync
your activesync will hang allot if you overclock, I have noticed this.
DOnt know why.
For some reason i stumbled onto something, im sure its been mentioned b4 but when running Wisbar advance with a Windows vista skin done by xcillion, i am able to overclock my cingular 8125 to 288mhz at a stable rate with no problems at all, can run warcraft 2 full speed with over 50 units battling it out on screen, almost doubles browsing speed and i can run all the emulators including SNES at full speed with sound. when i dont have wisbar advance running i cant go past 240mhz clocking speed. I wonder has anyone else noticed this or gone higher than 288 without a freeze. Also, my battery life runs steady for a full day of browsing the internet talking on mobile messanger and listening to music at half volume for a full day.
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For some reason i stumbled onto something, im sure its been mentioned b4 but when running Wisbar advance with a Windows vista skin done by xcillion, i am able to overclock my cingular 8125 to 288mhz at a stable rate with no problems at all, can run warcraft 2 full speed with over 50 units battling it out on screen, almost doubles browsing speed and i can run all the emulators including SNES at full speed with sound. when i dont have wisbar advance running i cant go past 240mhz clocking speed. I wonder has anyone else noticed this or gone higher than 288 without a freeze. Also, my battery life runs steady for a full day of browsing the internet talking on mobile messanger and listening to music at half volume for a full day.
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hey sonic, where did you get your copy of warcraft 2 for windows mobile ?
I've never heard of warcraft for Windows mobile, how does it run on a 240 MHz overclock?
I got it from the Wargus engine. i can email you the files if need be, i dont want to jeprodize this sites reputation. The game last time i checked was free though...
Actually I'm not sure if it's the overclocking issue or not but ...
For couple of weeks now my Wizard's red led is on all the time, not like it is when your battery is very low but about half of this brightness. I'm not really worried about that, it doesn't change much but it may be connected with overclocking (it was 240 for about a month).
Another thing - once I had sth like 110% speed of every tone played, either a phone call or an incoming message.
It doesn't really matter to me since it's still working fine but it may mean that overclocking isn't that safe as we might think.
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So I've recently bought a Cingular Wizard, and flashed TNT wm6 rom onto it. I installed PocketGnuBoy, and some other games, but I keep running into a problem. After I play for a while, or after my phone has been on for some time, games seem to start to 'skip'. It's really weird, and its still playable, but its extremely annoying. I would assume that someone happens after a while when you have your phone on, but I have no clue what it could be. My guess that it has something to do with activesync, but I can't seem to fix this lagging problem.
By the way, if it helps, I'm using battery status to overclock my processor to 260 mhz.
if i could first comment about your overclocking program...
XCPUScalar has a much better algorithm for overclocking. you should switch.
i tried both programs and XCPUScalar is much more stable. maybe if you tried overclocking using that you wouldn't get the lag.. maybe your processor gets all crazy from the heat of overclocking after some playtime that it can't handle the pressure... to be honest.. you should never overclock to the maximum.. it burns the MOSFETS on the processor.
other than that.. notice that some games eat RAM as they go.. check the ram demand in the beginning and check the change during gameplay..
that's something you can't really overcome.
Well if I'm playing my emulator and it starts to lag, and I exit, it seems like doing everything else or playing any other game will also get the lag. Even if I dump my memory.
ok.. so if it's a function of the time... maybe it IS about the overclocking.
try changing the program and if that doesn't work maybe you should ease up on the pressure.. after all it's a 195Mhz processor and you have a few other programs running.
I don't know. I literally have no other things running while I'm playing, and I still get this problem. The only way to fix it is to soft reset, and then it will run perfectly for 10-20 minutes. I tested it with 195 mhz default, and it still does the same thing.
hmm.. i have no idea then, im sorry
Okay so one thing I've noticed is that every time it starts lagging, the little icon where the keyboard is on your screen pops up. It's not there normally when you first start the program (pocketgnuboy) so when it starts up there is no lag. I'm absolutely sure that this has something to do with it, because of the exact timing of the lag and the appearance of the icon.
I've found this neat tool: http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nueDynamicClock.aspx
Has anyone used this on their X1 and did you notice any changes? I don't think you can use it for overclocking an X1. But I'm thinking about setting clock frequency to 19 MHz on Suspend, to get more out of my battery.
I've got this tool, not sure if it made much of a diff when I overclocked it to 528
( or just set it to the base clock speed since they have it underclocked @ 400 mhz ), wanna try the lower speeds, but not sure whether it will have a negative effect.
I uninstalled it..
found that any apps (such as gps cycle computer, audiomanager etc) that played with the screen on didn't work very well when the speed was lowered. Also had quite a lot of instances when the screen was corrupted after coming out of suspend..
I use it since yesterday, so i can't say anything about changed battery lifetime. But i got it working only after setting min-clock to 384MHz. With lower settings the phone got frozen in standby mode after a while. I'll try it for a few days for testing a (hopefully) enhanced standby time...
PS: i use 384MHz in suspend mode and after idle time of 5s, didn't change max clock or voltage settings (all to "auto"). Maybe setting idle time to 2s would care more battery life, but i don't know how the cpu will stand changing the clock so much often...
Been using it since v1.0. Seems to have some battery gain (10% over 8 hours better) - set to default 528MHz, down to 256MHz idle and 122.98MHz on suspend and screen off. Needed 123MHz for clean audio playback in standby.
Only screen corruption (inversion) issues I had was when set too low (19MHz) at standby. Now using these settings for a few days and no issues so recommended for use with TFlo3D2.
Unless you're running WM6.5 with WM7 titanium - makes it very slow to respond out of standby.
And it doesn't overclock - 528MHz is default clock speed.
I wanted to try this but my X1 says no, here is the screen shot, due to security, I press yes and my X1 does a soft reset, then I try the program again and get the same thing.
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Has anyone with a standard Official Rom 2 got this to work, and how ?
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I wanted to try this but my X1 says no, here is the screen shot, due to security, I press yes and my X1 does a soft reset, then I try the program again and get the same thing.
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Has anyone with a standard Official Rom 2 got this to work, and how ?
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I have a standard R2A ROM and it works for me. Can't tell you what's the problem with your installation, though.
Anyway, I found since I installed the tool my device is worse than before. It sometimes interrupts audio playback when display is off (ALthough frequency in that case is still at 3xx MHz!) and sometimes it takes very long (5 secs +) to suspend and to wake up again. So I think I'm gonna remove it.
I only turned down the voltage to 1.1 instead of 1.325 running on 528MHz.
So, as the title says, there may be a way to prevent your device from freezing due to unlocked bootloader. Here are 2 things I've discovered:
1) Most of you may already know of this: If you switch off cores 3 and 4 of your CPU in the app Kernel Adiutor you can prevent the freezing issue. However, you lose half your CPU power, and if you leave it that way for long you can't switch those cores back on for some reason, and you'll have to reboot your device(else your battery will drain out if left as is, from my experience), so it's quite a cumbersome task.
2) If you play games that require little more than average ram and CPU power(even games like hill climb) your phone won't freeze while playing. I play this game called Vainglory, and after having played for over 10 hours, I can say for sure it didn't freeze even once.
From these two things I can draw up a vague conclusion that the phone freezes when the CPU isn't doing anything much. When we switch off 2 cores, the workload increases on the CPU, this making it busy(which also leads to quick drain). Same goes for gaming.
So how do we work on that? I'm not sure. Anyone have any ideas? Maybe someone can create a kernel compatible with RR and other cm13 roms which has what's needed. Or maybe try a different CPU governor? Well, just wanted to put it out there.
I tried all what you're trying to do and I understand that. The thing is that it will freeze no matter what.
Of course you can try but don't expect too much.
Goodluck!
I am facing this same issue suddenly
there is no connection between ifwi and cpu core
paktepu said:
there is no connection between ifwi and cpu core
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Who said there is?
Another thing I found:
When you use kernel adiutor to switch off cores 3 and 4, and use your phone normally, the instant when your phone would have frozen if it weren't for the app, is when your phone gets much slower suddenly. At this point, you'll no longer be able to switch those cores back on, and only a reboot will resolve that.
I've mentioned this so-called "method" of preventing Z5 freeze long ago. I can confirm that switching off cores 3 and 4 somehow halts the phone's urge to freeze. I could've lived with limiting my "power use" as I'm not really a fan of entrusting your phone with large tasks. However, what turned me off was that disabling either one of cores 3 and 4 also disables the camera somehow (Ring a bell, Z5 users who lose their cameras whenever their bootloaders are unlocked?)
No one really replied with certainty back then and up to now, that thread is still collecting cobwebs.
Question: is battery drain a characteristic of disabling cores? I disabled only core 4. Cores 1, 2, and 3 are up and my ROM (Lineage 14.1) runs perfectly without freezing.
Need help... Intel Joying CPU Usage Spikes & Frequent Audio Dropouts on all apps...
It's especially prominent in Pandora. But also on Poweramp and Pulsar. Doesn't happen on iHeartRadio, however; what's happening is every 30 - 45 seconds I get a pause in the audio.. note when it pauses I notice the song time is still continuing so the actual song doesn't appear to be stopping, but I just lose audio. It lasts between 2 and 5 seconds. I tried disabling the stock music player but this seems not to have helped. I also disabled Bluetooth and it still didn't help. I do have a USB harddrive with several gigs of music but nothing is scanning from what I can tell. What could be causing this issue?
Edit: After some additional testing using the Trickster MOD, I am finding that the HU is running at 1040Mhz 99% of the time in a sample of 2 hours, however; when I lose audio I am noticing my CPU usage is SPIKING from 5 - 10% to 90% and higher for no apparent reason, then it drops back down and I regain audio... Temperatures remain between 40 and 45*C ... Any idea whats going on?
Looks like your HU is experiencing overheat problem when CPU has to throttle down.
I installed a heat sink and cooling fan on it already though and it solved my initial problem where my HU would lose GPS. How can I tell for sure because my new fans are definitely running yet my audio keeps skipping
Have you installed any CPU temperature measuring utility? Might give a clue.
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Have you installed any CPU temperature measuring utility? Might give a clue.
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what app would you recommend?
Also, Google Play downloads are EXTREMELY slow and take forever to install.
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what app would you recommend?
Also, Google Play downloads are EXTREMELY slow and take forever to install.
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I like CPU Temp Pure https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.yanyan.cputemppure - it was once free, now it is not. I like it because it is capable of outputting temp in the upper screen bar persistently (if this setting is enabled).
As to slow install, it can also mean CPU thottled down and if it is Intel, they say the app has to be compiled for x86 during install which takes additional time (I only repeat someone here, may be wrong).
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I like CPU Temp Pure https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.yanyan.cputemppure - it was once free, now it is not. I like it because it is capable of outputting temp in the upper screen bar persistently (if this setting is enabled).
As to slow install, it can also mean CPU thottled down and if it is Intel, they say the app has to be compiled for x86 during install which takes additional time (I only repeat someone here, may be wrong).
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I'll try that. If it comes to a point where I may need a new HU, what would you recommend? Not sure if I really like Joying, especially because their overheating issues.
As to me, I am not an expert at all: Joying is my first (and current) experience in Android HU. Keeping an eye on a HU market, I can not see anything that I would heavily wish to substitute Joying, which is just quite acceptable for my everyday usage.
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You may want to search for CadillacMike posts - AFAIR he recently owned at least 3 different Chinese brand Android HUs, Joying included.
ste2002 said:
As to me, I am not an expert at all: Joying is my first (and current) experience in Android HU. Keeping an eye on a HU market, I can not see anything that I would heavily wish to substitute Joying, which is just quite acceptable for my everyday usage.
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You may want to search for CadillacMike posts - AFAIR he recently owned at least 3 different Chinese brand Android HUs, Joying included.
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Okay, I checked the CPU temp and its hovering between 37 and 41*C with poweramp running but poweramp is still skipping.
I notice my DEFAULT music app is still trying to locate music, is there any way to disable the default music app? I am believing it may be causing the problem.
Your temps are just ideal, very low for throttling, I believe. Mine are often around 80 - I still do not have any additional cooling. But I mostly tune to FM radio.
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Your temps are just ideal, very low for throttling, I believe. Mine are often around 80 - I still do not have any additional cooling. But I mostly tune to FM radio.
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Are there apps that can disable throttling and allow it to run at max CPU?
Look at GTX custom ROM thread as an alternative to Joying factory ROM - it may solve your issue. And gtxaspec himself did mention using some software to lock CPU on his HU to 1000 Mhz.
By the way: at some 80+C my CPU frequency shows 728? MHz.
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Look at GTX custom ROM thread as an alternative to Joying factory ROM - it may solve your issue. And gtxaspec himself did mention using some software to lock CPU on his HU to 1000 Mhz.
By the way: at some 80+C my CPU frequency shows 728? MHz.
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I was looking into that, looks like I would have to upgrade to Android 6. I did alot of mods to my 5.1.1 (Can use Google Voice Assistant, Audio works on all Navigation Apps instead of just the default one, Bluetooth mod) I'm assuming all that will go away..will I retain this features if I use his mod?
There is high probability that you'll have to reconfigure/install everything again. You may also encounter new issues you do not have now. Its not just a mod, but ROM.
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After a bit more testing, I downloaded the Trickster Mod. My HU is becoming unbelievably slow. The trickster mod is showing my CPU temperature consistantly between 37*C and 44*C -- Never goes higher than 44*C. ...
CPU is running at 1040Mhz for the majority of the time, a sample of 2 hours showed it at 1040Mhz for 99% of the time... and at a much lower speed for 1% of the time. I can't remember the exact Mhz but what is happening is this..
I ran PowerAmp while watching Trickster and CPU usage remains between 6% and 15% for the majority of the time, and then when I get an audio drop-out, my CPU usage SPIKES to 90% or higher, I lose all audio, then it returns to about 5 to 10% and all audio returns...and it does this consistently where I lose audio during CPU usage spike. I do not know what is taxing my CPU so hard.
Any idea?
So I used an app to determine which apps were taking the most CPU usage, it turns out.. it was my Google App. I reinstalled my Google App and all seems to be well now.