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This map describing direct connect service seems to imply that future roaming coverage will be EVDO after network vision. So, no more fighting Sprint for the 111x PRLs any more.
Huh? I don't see the connection between Direct Connect and univeral roaming. All I see is that Sprint is transitioning Direct Connect (push to talk) from the old Nextel Frequencies to the Sprint frequencies as part of Network Vision. What am I missing here?
They have no plans to open the floodgates of complete 3g roaming to everyone. They want you to hate to use data while roaming for a reason.
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This map describing direct connect service seems to imply that future roaming coverage will be EVDO after network vision. So, no more fighting Sprint for the 111x PRLs any more.
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I didn't have to fight to get that prl .. Have to say tho, this prl has prolonged my service with sprint as I'm on the brink of switching to Verizon
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Any chance of posting a 111xx prl?
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As I read that underlined passage, they are speaking of the ability use Direct-connect while roaming and stating that the shaded areas of the map include roaming and non-EvDo areas. I still don't see anything about providing full 3G while roaming.
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Any chance of posting a 111xx prl?
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Don't have the link around but google for 11115.zip and I am sure you will find it.
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Any chance of posting a 111xx prl?
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Check my sig.
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As I read that underlined passage, they are speaking if the ability use Direct-connect while roaming and stating that the shaded areas of the map include roaming and non-EvDo areas. I still don't see anything about providing full 3G while roaming.
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I hypothesize that direct connect requires EV-DO for a couple of reasons.
First, Sprint's current direct connect map only includes areas served by native Sprint EV-DO. Areas with native 1xRTT Sprint coverage are excluded from direct connect coverage. I suspect Alltel EV-DO roaming areas can support direct connect however Sprint is looking to win more favorable roaming agreements before they allow that.
The second clue is the direct connect apps that were referred to at the Network Vision Strategy update in October. If any android phone can use direct connect through an app, an IP-based implementation would make the most sense.
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It was stated before that the new direct connect phones would even work when 1x roaming.
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It was stated before that the new direct connect phones would even work when 1x roaming.
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Where did you read that?
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PRL 11115.
For those of you who want the latest PRL 11115 here you go and Happy New Year.
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ummm... Jesse?
I would like to know as well
probably be a while...
Not currently on the radar.
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ummm... Jesse?
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Its a small world after all..... how ya been?
Not sure this will be the same as OKC but I saw in the sprint forums OKC was scheduled first of 2011, but Best Buy says it probably be this fall and in some places in Oklahoma 4g is being tested... i would take that with a grain of salt though.
I've heard that they are setting up the infrastructure and testing it. I'd imagine it would be sometime 2011. Again, just hearsay though.
I used to work at the sprint call center in okc that has 4g tech support (i know y have 4g tech in a place that has no 4g) they told us okc will get it in the spring where the call center is on nw expressway and council there is a 4g tower next in but they won't turn it on
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As far as Tulsa goes, I turned on 4g yesterday on my epic and was able to pick up a weak signal around 7st and memorial. I guess Sprint is in the testing phase right now
I connected at 71st and Mingo. It took some scanning but I finally connected with 2 bars.
Do you think maybe the store at 71 across from the QT between Memorial and Mingo may have a small 4G tower to show it off, and you are picking that up? Or do you think they have actually started turning it on in Tulsa.
No, I called my buddy at that store and asked if 4g was officially here, he said no but it is in testing phase. I also asked of they have a 4g airave installed and he said that they did not. So welcome to beta wimax in tulsa.
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No, I called my buddy at that store and asked if 4g was officially here, he said no but it is in testing phase. I also asked of they have a 4g airave installed and he said that they did not. So welcome to beta wimax in tulsa.
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Well I'm at 71 a Yale, but on a CM 6.2 with no 4g. I guess I will try out the the 4G version of it tonight.
Will post later on what I get at 71 and Yale.
My Sprint store said that Fort Smith Arkansas would see it around the end of 2011. We are way smaller than Tulsa so I would say before then?
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Sprint 4g in Tulsa
There is a Sprint 4g tower on in downtown Tulsa. Signal is weak but the speed is great. Can't wait for more towers to be activated.
I connected to 4G in Stillwater tonight so it has to be real soon
Pics or it didnt happen? I got some screenies,
I was sitting at Haruno Sushi Bar at a booth inside by the Sushi Bar. On a side note they have the best Sushi in town
I was fluxing between 0-2 bars.
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Speed Test.
4G is soo FAIL
LOL about 1/8th of what I've gotten on Tmobile in the same areas on my Nexus One. But I'd still rather have Sprint because Tmobile bounces between Edge, 1G, 3G, and HSPA nonstop, without your phone ever moving. Nothing like waiting for HSPA to kick in while your waiting for a simple weather widget to refresh. I'll be curious to see what Sprint does when its finally rolled out here but I am not hopeful it will be anykind of useful. At least with Sprint I can turn the nonsense off and they are a little faster than Cricket.
4G = FAIL
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LOL about 1/8th of what I've gotten on Tmobile in the same areas on my Nexus One. But I'd still rather have Sprint because Tmobile bounces between Edge, 1G, 3G, and HSPA nonstop, without your phone ever moving. Nothing like waiting for HSPA to kick in while your waiting for a simple weather widget to refresh. I'll be curious to see what Sprint does when its finally rolled out here but I am not hopeful it will be anykind of useful. At least with Sprint I can turn the nonsense off and they are a little faster than Cricket.
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You got 25mb download speed on a 3g phone?
I have both t-mobile and verizon. I've been considering ditching verizon. But, i'd like to know if I could still use the droid x just on wifi or if I'm gonna have to sell it. I bought it ten months ago. I'd like to keep it as a dev device, but just without phone access.
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You can still use most apps that allow wifi connection for a data source (almost all).
Wirrless tether would no longer work without 3g service... That is the only major catch I can think of
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Thanks for the prompt reply. What about if I do a data wipe and the device asks to be reactivated?
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Thanks for the prompt reply. What about if I do a data wipe and the device asks to be reactivated?
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You could just ignore it. Theres always a way to skip all those start up screens.
You MIGHT be able to "activate" it. It would eventually tell you that there is no service registered to this device etc etc.
I THINK that's how it works, but I could be dead wrong, might want to call cs and ask what happens if you try to activate a phone out of service.
Either way, you won't be billed. I think my activation screen allowed me to skip it.
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I have both t-mobile and verizon. I've been considering ditching verizon. But, i'd like to know if I could still use the droid x just on wifi or if I'm gonna have to sell it. I bought it ten months ago. I'd like to keep it as a dev device, but just without phone access.
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WHY would anyone pay for Verizon's service! I flashed my X to Cricket and never turned back, (end rant lol ). You can still use the WiFi feature after you get past the Activation screen.
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You can also use Page Plus. For as little as $30 per year, you could have phone service on it and use it as a backup phone as well as a really cool toy.
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WHY would anyone pay for Verizon's service! I flashed my X to Cricket and never turned back, (end rant lol ). You can still use the WiFi feature after you get past the Activation screen.
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Never dropping a call and data speed that makes AT&T/iPhone fanbois wet their bed's at night.
Ditch T-Mobile, they just did a massive TV campaign advertising a 4G network when they don't even have one. They are just enhancing their current 3G network which by now is equivalent to verizon's 4G LTE.
It sounds like you're saying that T-Mobile's 21Mbps service isn't 4G while Verizon's 10Mbps service is. Technically speaking, neither fit the 4G standard; however, both are marketing their high-speed networks as such.
Verizon is too expensive for me. The DroidX does not do simultaneous voice and data--something I need everyday for my job.
T-Mobile has great coverage in my area. They're much more affordable than Verizon. Their network is faster than Verizon's. Unless you can convince me to go to a slower network with less functionality at a higher price, my Verizon account will remain closed.
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Whoever thinks verizon 3g is better than at&t either lives in a low at&t recwption area or blowing smoke. At&t and tmobile are both faster than any cdma network, especially now with the hspa+ upgrades which also speed up other 3g devices. Its not even close.
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Yes. You won't get 4g, but I assume there's a way for 3g and everything else sprint to work.
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Yes. You won't get 4g, but I assume there's a way for 3g and everything else sprint to work.
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I figured 4G wouldn't work. I may buy one unlocked. You think that 4G would work once Sprint has their LTE towers up?
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Only the GSM models are unlocked Verizon & sprint are cdma & I think it really wouldn't work if you had a Verizon phone on sprint you would probably only get 1x not 3g I want the phone bad I've ask sprint on twitter, online I've asked Google & nothing no word which is stupid there big companies its either yes where getting it in a couple months or no we ain't carrying the galaxy nexus but they say squat
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younggangsta_s said:
I figured 4G wouldn't work. I may buy one unlocked. You think that 4G would work once Sprint has their LTE towers up?
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Nope. Lte will not be carrier crosscompatible.
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Only the GSM models are unlocked Verizon & sprint are cdma & I think it really wouldn't work if you had a Verizon phone on sprint you would probably only get 1x not 3g I want the phone bad I've ask sprint on twitter, online I've asked Google & nothing no word which is stupid there big companies its either yes where getting it in a couple months or no we ain't carrying the galaxy nexus but they say squat
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Idk if the only 1x part is true because I think we use the same bands as them, so 3g should work.
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If I was to leave sprint I would go to T-Mobile cuz they got cheap plans & they are getting the galaxy nexus & there 3g is better the sprint's & there 4g is faster than sprints I've been with sprint for 9 years I want to stay but they got to get going & make there 3g faster or the same as Verizon & push out there LTE aggressive & keep unlimited & they will be # 1
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If I was to leave sprint I would go to T-Mobile cuz they got cheap plans & they are getting the galaxy nexus & there 3g is better the sprint's & there 4g is faster than sprints I've been with sprint for 9 years I want to stay but they got to get going & make there 3g faster or the same as Verizon & push out there LTE aggressive & keep unlimited & they will be # 1
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Would you mind if i introduced you to my good friend punctuation?
holy run on sentence.
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Would you mind if i introduced you to my good friend punctuation?
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Wufff izs Chu twalkin bwout?
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So I live in the Baltimore area which has full 4G/LTE coverage. I RARELY have 4G on this thing. Anyone having that issue as well?
Seems to connect fine for me when not on WiFi. I would be contacting Sprint if you are sure the LTE in that area is strong enough. Make them do the work to figure it out. Have you updated your PRL? If not you should do that and see if it helps.
From Sprint: "On some 4G LTE chipsets such as Qualcomm, the PRL determines if LTE is enabled for the geographic region you are in."
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Seems to connect fine for me when not on WiFi. I would be contacting Sprint if you are sure the LTE in that area is strong enough. Make them do the work to figure it out. Have you updated your PRL? If not you should do that and see if it helps.
From Sprint: "On some 4G LTE chipsets such as Qualcomm, the PRL determines if LTE is enabled for the geographic region you are in."
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Just update profile and PRL. No luck. Do I need to reboot?
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Just update profile and PRL. No luck. Do I need to reboot?
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So I did all that, switched from LTE/CDMA to CDMA and back to LTE/CDMA. Sprint updated their end and everything. Still no 4G. They said it's a hardware issue, but I do have 4G off and on while driving so I don't understand what the issue is.
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So I did all that, switched from LTE/CDMA to CDMA and back to LTE/CDMA. Sprint updated their end and everything. Still no 4G. They said it's a hardware issue, but I do have 4G off and on while driving so I don't understand what the issue is.
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That is a pain. If it was me I would be taking the phone back until they get it working. For what we pay for the device and plan the pressure should be on them to get it fixed. Good luck.
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That is a pain. If it was me I would be taking the phone back until they get it working. For what we pay for the device and plan the pressure should be on them to get it working. Good luck.
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Yeah the live chat people are morons anyway. Might just go to the store and tell them to fix it.
I have the same issue in my area. I checked on sprint.com/coverage and it claims there is 4G coverage in my area. I hardly see the 4G icon on my phone and its painfully slow when on "3G".
I read somewhere that sprint is updating their towers for better coverage and start LTE coverage in more areas (mine included). I read on some unofficial site that they are only 23% done updating and are expected to complete the project (in my area) by the end of this year.
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I have the same issue in my area. I checked on sprint.com/coverage and it claims there is 4G coverage in my area. I hardly see the 4G icon on my phone and its painfully slow when on "3G".
I read somewhere that sprint is updating their towers for better coverage and start LTE coverage in more areas (mine included). I read on some unofficial site that they are only 23% done updating and are expected to complete the project (in my area) by the end of this year.
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Yeah maybe that's it...
Check out your LTE coverage at this site http://www.sensorly.com/map/4G/US/USA/Sprint/lte_310sprint#q=chicago, ill
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Check out your LTE coverage at this site http://www.sensorly.com/map/4G/US/USA/Sprint/lte_310sprint#q=chicago, ill
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I zoomed out pretty far on sprint in the us and I saw no purple on the map for all of the us?
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No problem in Baltimore with 4g
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Only seems to be affecting me inside of buildings actually.
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Only seems to be affecting me inside of buildings actually.
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From what I understand, that's pretty normal.
mjs2011 said:
From what I understand, that's pretty normal.
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Not normal on my E4GT when I had it.
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I zoomed out pretty far on sprint in the us and I saw no purple on the map for all of the us?
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You probably zoomed out too far. I copied and pasted the east and west together so you can see where Sprint LTE is in 1 image.
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Not normal on my E4GT when I had it.
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not the same 4g technology
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not the same 4g technology
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I understand that. Just would have figured newer tech means better coverage. I guess not.
I was just in Baltimore all week for business and I got 4G the entire week! I was staying right near Camden Yards at a Holiday Inn Inner Harbour.
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I understand that. Just would have figured newer tech means better coverage. I guess not.
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No, they just are not finished implementing lte. Think of sprint.com/coverage as planned coverage not actual completed sites. Most areas are 30%-40% complete from what I have been reading.
http://s4gru.com has a pretty in depth and accurate tracking system
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Actually, I had done something with my MSL changing my proxy settings & when it rebooted, I looked at my network preferences & noticed it was CDMA only. I had to enable LTE before I actually started seeing LTE again in areas when I KNEW I should've had it around Dallas. Thing was, it was several days before I noticed it was CDMA only!
So I haven't seen a thread about this yet. Just want to start a thread to keep some interesting data of speeds when using your free unlimited International data roaming.
I'll start with the first screenshot of my speedtest in Taipei, Taiwan. Roaming was fine and as soon as we landed, the text came welcoming us to Taipei on T-Mobile roaming.
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So far I've been able to make a clear voip call through an messenger app called LINE.
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So I haven't seen a thread about this yet. Just want to start a thread to keep some interesting data of speeds when using your free unlimited International data roaming.
I'll start with the first screenshot of my speedtest in Taipei, Taiwan. Roaming was fine and as soon as we landed, the text came welcoming us to Taipei on T-Mobile roaming.
So far I've been able to make a clear voip call through an messenger app called LINE.
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Thats comparable to Sprint's average speed in the US. Nice!
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Thats comparable to Sprint's average speed in the US. Nice!
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that is actually a bit better than sprint's national average speeds
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Thats comparable to Sprint's average speed in the US. Nice!
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that is actually a bit better than sprint's national average speeds
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LOL, T-Mobile advertise this as a capped 2G speed.
Connection seems like it's always been on 3G.
Also I came over from Sprint and I do know the feeling with Sprint Data sucks ass.
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LOL, T-Mobile advertise this as a capped 2G speed.
Connection seems like it's always been on 3G.
Also I came over from Sprint and I do know the feeling with Sprint Data sucks ass.
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same thing here, I was with sprint for over 10 years, I got fed up with the fake promises of this amazing 4g network they are building etc.
They finally got 4g here in Tucson, but they having problems with some spectrum that penetrates through buildings because of how close the border to mexico is, so we have half way decent 4g outdoors but no signal at all indoors.
And they are saying they will not be allowed to use that where I live for years to come, so its pretty worthless to be on sprint.
Here is my speedtest in Cusco, Peru. So far I done about 1.5gb of roaming on the free data.
NOVA speed for reference
twe90kid said:
LOL, T-Mobile advertise this as a capped 2G speed.
Connection seems like it's always been on 3G.
Also I came over from Sprint and I do know the feeling with Sprint Data sucks ass.
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same thing here, I was with sprint for over 10 years, I got fed up with the fake promises of this amazing 4g network they are building etc.
They finally got 4g here in Tucson, but they having problems with some spectrum that penetrates through buildings because of how close the border to mexico is, so we have half way decent 4g outdoors but no signal at all indoors.
And they are saying they will not be allowed to use that where I live for years to come, so its pretty worthless to be on sprint.
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Same story here! Switched to T-Mobile here in DC Metro area after not being able to connect to 4G inside the buildings on the lower floors. Also, no 4G inside my condo on the 3rd floor. It was just so incredibly annoying. The only thing I miss is a more reliable connection inside metro stations.
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NOVA? Where is this?
I wonder why your unrestricted and gettin full LTE.
This is what I get in the middle of DC, kinda weird.
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This is what I get in the middle of DC, kinda weird.
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Please read the thread. We're sharing data info for overseas. This is for "unlimited international data".
This thread is pointless. You can connect to whatever network is available (3G, 4G... maybe even LTE) but it WILL cap your speeds to what you're seeing unless you pay for high speed data passes.
This is the same speed I got in Malaysia and Singapore. Its good for email and Whatsapp and GPS. Not good for youtube. Its better than nothing! Long live T-mobile and thank you!