I have yet to root my KF, its only a day old and I'm still checking things out. I read through allot of the posts for development and I see some are using CM roms. My question that I can't seem to find is, has anyone tried apps to sd. I know allot of the phone roms, cm included had apps to sd. You could just move an app to the external storage, and I was wondering if there was anything like that for the KF. The application limit is my only real motivation at this point to root, however the re-partition thread is like a huge process with plenty of potential to brick your device. Aside from the android market, what is the benefit to rooting this thing? I rather like the stock launcher, but if rooting and putting a rom on it will give me more usability, I will move forward and root. Does anyone know of a solution for using all of the available space for storage, otherwise it seems like more trouble than its worth right now.
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Use Titanium Backup. It can do this even though the normal application tool doesn't.
After root, use the move function in titanium backup. Works for me.
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After root, you can just move apps to SD by going to Settings, then to Applications, then to Manage Applications, then click on the app you want and select Move to SD card... it's that easy.
long press the app and window pops up with the move option.
make sure your'r sd card is r/w.
Noob question. If it truly is as easy as "move app to SD" on Titanium Backup (or Gemini App Manager) to move apps from Internal Storage to SD card storage, why do some folks bother with re-partitioning their SD card at all?
It may be that they didn't realize the apps were being placed on the sd. The only way I know to tell what is on the sd is to look at the output of the `mount`.
That's possible sure, but it doesn't really make sense.
check out eldarerathis' thread on the development forums. he's posted a very useful utility to repartioning your SD card. should help a lot of us out.
gibson3659 said:
After root, use the move function in titanium backup. Works for me.
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Yes, I also managed to move apps to SD by using Titanium Backup. (I had no problems with a batch job)
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Sorry to post such a noob question on these boards.
I found this forum to be the most active in regards to the Xperia Play so thought I'd set up home here for a while.
I have the 16GB card that came with my PLAY, and even though when I install an app/game, I use the 'move to SD card', my internal storage is very low (getting a message). It's like 20mb or something left. I have gone through all the apps and moved everything that can to SD Card.
I am new to Android (from Ios), but thought this would be ok as everything could be installed on the SD Card, but my internal storage keeps going down anyway.
So this is going to greatly limit the number of games/apps I can install even though I have plenty of SD card space?
Cheers.
Do you know how to use adb?
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Do you know how to use the search function on this forum?
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Do you know how to use adb?
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No.
DeadlyDazza said:
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Yes, strange question.
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Google adb, learn its basic functions and how to use it, then from adb shell, use the command pm SetInstallLocation 2, this will force all apps and libs to be moveable to the sd card, i have 200+ apps n games on my play and still 70mb of internal storage
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Thankyou AndroHero for you helpful reply.
Can I ask if there are any adverse effects or risks using ADB?
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Careful about moving apps to the SD card. A lot of apps don't like it at all and will stop functioning completely. Apps that want to be on all the time, for example (Trillian, Tweetdeck, etc...) will just be killed every so often and you'll wonder why you never got that message on MSN or why you didn't get that DM from Twitter. Any app that has widgets will break the widgets completely when moved to the SD card.
It's one of those things I discovered that no one seems to talk about.
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Thankyou AndroHero for you helpful reply.
Can I ask if there are any adverse effects or risks using ADB?
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No, adb stands for android debug bridge, is basically a way for you to comunicate with your device remotely using a pc. Like another poster has mentioned, becareful what you move any app with a widget you want to use, or any app you wish to start on boot or sync need to stay on the internal storage
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Careful about moving apps to the SD card. A lot of apps don't like it at all and will stop functioning completely. Apps that want to be on all the time, for example (Trillian, Tweetdeck, etc...) will just be killed every so often and you'll wonder why you never got that message on MSN or why you didn't get that DM from Twitter. Any app that has widgets will break the widgets completely when moved to the SD card.
It's one of those things I discovered that no one seems to talk about.
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I uninstalled trillian after google gave me the ip of a computer that accessed my email, i googled it and it came up as trillian.
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You probably had Google Talk enabled on Trillian.
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Hi! I have a Sony Xperia Play
Phone details:
Model - R800i
Android Version - 2.3.4
Kernel Version - 2.6.32.9-perf [email protected] #1
Build - 4.0.2.A.0.42
My internal storage is very low (getting a message). I have gone through all the apps and moved everything that can to SD Card.
I have heard about Titanium Backup root, DroidSail Super App2SD, adb, Link2SD and so on.
The methods above can let me move those unmovable apps to the SD card.
What are the advantages and disadvantages of them? How do they compare? Which method is safer or more reliable? Which method can move more apps?
If you know, please let me know, thanks.
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I got this information from the official Link2SD website, this is comparing Native apps2SD to Link2SD, I don't know how Link2SD compared with Titanium Backup root, DroidSail Super App2SD, adb and so on. If you know, please let me know, thanks.
(Native apps2sd
Starting with Android 2.2 (Froyo) Google introduced native apps2SD.
This method moves
* apk file on Android 2.2
* apk + lib files on Android 2.3+
into a secure folder on your SD card in the main FAT partition.
It is the easiest method because it doesn't require you to partition your sdcard and root privilige.
It has some disadvantages though.
First disadvantage is that application files are just stored on the sdcard's main FAT partition.
When you enable USB mass storage to share files with your computer (or otherwise unmounts or removes the external storage), any application installed on the external storage and currently running is killed.
The system effectively becomes unaware of the application until mass storage is disabled and the external storage is remounted on the device.
Besides killing the application and making it unavailable to the user, this can break some types of applications in a more serious way.
So second disadvantage is that not all apps can be moved with native apps2sd method because of above reason.
In order for the application to consistently behave as expected, developer should not allow the application to be installed on the external storage if it uses any of the following features, due to the cited consequences when the external storage is unmounted:
Widgets, Services, Alarm Services, Live Wallpapers, Live Folders, Account Managers, Sync Adapters, Broadcast Receivers listening for "boot completed".
Force move (requires root);
You can force the apps move to SD card with native apps2SD even the application does not support moving as described above.
Link2SD and some other apps can force move apps if you have root priviliges. But, note that this can break some applications, as described above.
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I want to know where App2SD moves the files. I have flashed my device with RUU (official) and before I did that I had lots of apps moved to SD and now am not sure if the files from those apps are still on the SD card or not and if they are, where ?
It moves your apps to a magical place where they can roam free and happy
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It moves your apps to a magical place where they can roam free and happy
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I could have guessed that myself (the name gives it away). What I meant is which directory on the filesystem and is it system directory that I can not access from the phone itself (unrooted)
If you are asking about Android's built-in App2SD functionality, check the .android_secure directory of your sdcard.
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If you are asking about Android's built-in App2SD functionality, check the .android_secure directory of your sdcard.
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Talking about this one
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.a0soft.gphone.app2sd&hl=en
As far as I know 2.2 doesn't have this functionality
froyo has it aswell check out .android_secure
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froyo has it aswell check out .android_secure
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I am using the app that I mentioned so even if Froyo has it, it wont matter
The directory is empty
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I am using the app that I mentioned so even if Froyo has it, it wont matter
The directory is empty
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Here's the thing - Froyo DOES have that functionality. If you're rooting you should try to know a bit more about your device before attempting something so drastic.
Now, that app does NOTHING that stock app2sd doesn't already do. Only if the dev allows the app to be moved can it be moved. If nothing is in the .android_secure folder then no apps are on your sdcard - plain and simple.
a2sd (a2EXT) is much different. It moves every bit of every app to an ext partition. You need Linux or a program capable of reading ext partitions if you're on Windows to see the apps and copy them over.
You could just get Titanium Backup and save the apps so you won't have to worry about any of this while switching between ROM's or whatever else you decide to attempt.
EDIT: Just to make it clear - the RUU doesn't touch your sdcard so whatever was on there before is still there, or should be unless you updated while on LSD and hitting yourself in the head with a hammer.
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Here's the thing - Froyo DOES have that functionality. If you're rooting you should try to know a bit more about your device before attempting something so drastic.
Now, that app does NOTHING that stock app2sd doesn't already do. Only if the dev allows the app to be moved can it be moved. If nothing is in the .android_secure folder then no apps are on your sdcard - plain and simple.
a2sd (a2EXT) is much different. It moves every bit of every app to an ext partition. You need Linux or a program capable of reading ext partitions if you're on Windows to see the apps and copy them over.
You could just get Titanium Backup and save the apps so you won't have to worry about any of this while switching between ROM's or whatever else you decide to attempt.
EDIT: Just to make it clear - the RUU doesn't touch your sdcard so whatever was on there before is still there, or should be unless you updated while on LSD and hitting yourself in the head with a hammer.
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Here is the deal, I rooted my phone and found out that I have no Arabic after downgrading my firmware to 1.34 so I got the RUU with Arabic (1.85) and updated the phone. before all that I used App2SD to move some apps to the SD card to save phone storage and after going toe Arabic RUU, the apps are not in that directory but everything else (photos, documents, maps, etc ..) is still there which means the SD was not wiped. I also used astro to backup my apps before doing the downgrade but it only backed up the ones on the phone storage and not everything.
I am a bit of Android newbie but am an expert in Linux (which is what Android is). I would love to root the phone but it is not possible to downgrade to 1.34 without losing Arabic .
Maybe I should mount the SD card on my laptop and do a find
I've had my Evo 4G for almost a year now and I really havent felt the need to upgrade the ROM on it, which is surprising for me since I usually put a custom OS on my phones the day I buy them (coming from a windows mobile background) .
The only issue I have that I would like to rectify is app space. I keep getting the low disk space warning and telling me to remove apps.
I was wondering, if I root the device is there a way to push apps that do not have "move to SD" enabled over to the SD anyway? Facebook and Twitter for instance would be much better off on the SD since they build up huge data caches and need to be cleared all the time when on the phones memory.
Or, is there a way to re-size the phones memory allocations without doing a full re-flash if it's rooted?
Any thoughts/opinions are appreciated. Thanks!
You can do this stock as of froyo. You can do this through the applications setting menu or use an app that will help. I've used sdmove
If you root you could use a script created by darktremor. There's a thread on here if you search for darktremor a2sd. It frees up 3/4 of your internal memory, it works pretty well
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You can do this stock as of froyo. You can do this through the applications setting menu or use an app that will help. I've used sdmove
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I tried that app a while ago and it really wasn't that big of a help. Certain apps (like Facebook and twitter) still could not be moved.
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If you root you could use a script created by darktremor. There's a thread on here if you search for darktremor a2sd. It frees up 3/4 of your internal memory, it works pretty well
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Thanks! I will take a look at that. It may be just what I need.
If you root you can partition your sd card and use dta2sd and it will move all your apps to the extsd even ones with widgets it works great .
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Rooting your phone with a ROM that's at least 2.2 will allow for app2sd use, however, you do not have to ROOT to use app2sd. If you do not wish to ROOT your phone, You need to run at least stock version 2.2 to be able to use app2sd.
I had a HERO that ran 2.1 and app2sd did not work, then I got my EVO with 2.2 and app2sd worked fine. Neither the HERO or EVO were rooted at the time.
Also remember that some apps must stay resident to work and can not be moved to your sd. Many of the app2sd apps will show you what can and can't be moved.
Good Luck.....
Been searching for a while but am confused. Never needed to use my external SD on vibrant until recently. Now I have a question. I have two different ROM versions on my phone and I use ROM manager to keep them backed up and I use restore to go from one to the other.
The question is, now that I had to move some apps to my sd card (using Apps2SD), what happens when I switch ROMS by using restore?
Do I need two different partitions on the SD card, one for each ROM? If so how do I do this, and how do I know which partition each ROM will use?
I have read many warnings about partitioning using ROM Manager so I am kind of leary of using it.
Can anyone explain this to me? Never thought about it before because the Vibrant has so much memory available.
Thanks.
Any ideas?
I'm sure lots of people have done this before, just not me.
Can anyone explain this to me please?
Thanks in advance.
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The question is, now that I had to move some apps to my sd card (using Apps2SD), what happens when I switch ROMS by using restore?
Do I need two different partitions on the SD card, one for each ROM? If so how do I do this, and how do I know which partition each ROM will use?
I have read many warnings about partitioning using ROM Manager so I am kind of leary of using it
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I have NEVER heard good things about partitioning your SD card with ROM mgr. NOt sure why you would anyways. The internal is already partitioned anyway. That is why we have a phone marketed with 16gb internal but when you pull settings>sdcard it shows only 14gb. Where are the other 2gb at? There are already partitioned to put your apps there. Use Root Explored and go to /Data, /datadata/, /dalvik-cache and you'll notice that they are all the same size-nearly 2 gb. Viola!!!
As far as restoring. I don't use native App2sd but I know how it works. W/o getting too technical, it puts part of the app's apk (executable functions and data) in a folder called .androidsecure on your sdcard (if you want to view this folder, you have to plug into PC and make sure Hidden Files are viewable). Now to your question. Whenever I have backed up, I always see at the end when it is cycling through your partitons (/system, /data,...) it says something like "backing up .androidsecure"-file not found*b/c I don't use it is why it isn't found. So you can back that up if there is something in it, flash new ROM redownload your apps and move to App2sd, back up and when you restore it should restore the .androidsecure partition.
Sorry for the long response but you asked two questions there. Now for my question. How many friggin apps do you have to fill up everything and bleed over into the app2sd part too? Does your phone lag? How is battery life?
Using App 2 SD Pro
Perhaps I didn't give enough info, but I am using an app, called App 2 SD Pro, to move apps back and forth to and from SD card.
It shows Moveable = 98, on SD card = 17, and phone only = 98, so I suppose it have 213 if it is correct.
Thanks for the info about restoring. I will have to study your answer in more detail before I can give any more answers, or ask any further questions.
re download my apps
Part of your answer above was redownload my apps.
Don't want to do that. If I move some of my apps to the sd card using the app "App 2 SD Pro" and then do a backup using ROM manager, then restore another ROM using ROM Manager, which also has apps on the sd card, what happens to them?
I have done this and it seemed to me that some of the apps which had been moved to the sd card did not show up on the restored ROM.
This is why I asked about partitioning, maybe using one section of the external sd card for one ROM and one section for the other.
Im currently on ICS Taboonay 3.0.
I tried App2SD and Link2SD. It does not work.
Are these app not compatible with ICS?
If you know an app and which rom, please let me know. I'm starting to think maybe its not compatible to tablet at all.
Does this one work?:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.curvefish.apps.movetosd
movetosd does not work for me
The only apps that I have found that actually work for me are gl to sd and link2sd. Both require root, however link2sd is a total pain getting setup. It wasn't worth it to me and I can get by with gl to sd just fine.
GL to SD..it appears this was meant for Gameloft Data/games to SD. It did let me transfer a few apps/data like kindle and amazon to SD..could just be data and not the complete install. I'm not sure if this works like the rest of those apps, but Its the only app that works for me so far on ICS.
link2sd always fail and gives me error of "INSTALL_FAILED_INSUFFICIENT_STORAGE". This is bogus of course, since I do have space.
Well... All these Apps are somewhat of a hack, so don't expect them to work unless the developer specifically says otherwise... What on earth are you doing to your Tab anyway to fill 16GB storage with apps?! I only use 1.2 GB for Apps (and I have a lot of them) + 4GB for my chroot Linux... Not even close to filling up the available space.
I own the 8gb version. Its not that difficult to fill after you flash a rom. This would be a convenient solution if its doable that's all.
THIS MAY BRICK YOUR TAB IF YOU SCREW UP
Do a NAND backup before trying anything like this!
Well, if you're really desperate (and have root and busybox) you can always do the "link to SD" trick yourself: Just move the relevant files in /data/app and /data/data to your SD card, then symlink them back (ln -s /path/to/moved/file/or/folder /original/path) from a Terminal. This should even work with system apps, they're under /system/app... You should be very careful with this, anyway, because if you move the wrong ones you'll render the ROM non-bootable (Recovery should still work, though, so, again, KEEP A BACKUP!).
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link2sd always fail and gives me error of "INSTALL_FAILED_INSUFFICIENT_STORAGE". This is bogus of course, since I do have space.
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Did you make that funny logical disc or whatever it was? I remember having to create some sort of partition on the external sd and set it up in a very specific way. It was a pain but once I got right it that error went away. I stopped using it for some reason, not sure what it was exactly, but I think it made a few things unstable. Might have been something I moved and not the app at all...
did u fix it
hi i have same issue on p6800 with ICS . did u solve it ?
Nothing to lose if you try
samlot said:
GL to SD..it appears this was meant for Gameloft Data/games to SD. It did let me transfer a few apps/data like kindle and amazon to SD..could just be data and not the complete install. I'm not sure if this works like the rest of those apps, but Its the only app that works for me so far on ICS.
link2sd always fail and gives me error of "INSTALL_FAILED_INSUFFICIENT_STORAGE". This is bogus of course, since I do have space.
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Try to go to app manager and move it to sd (if u haven't move it) and reinstalling the app then create link... it works for me and make sure there are no notification that says "Internal Memory almost full" Hope it helps