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Having issues with Prime wifi. Best bet to get TF101?

So I received my Transformer Prime today and am having wifi issues (very poor connection strength). Also, I have a group of very bright pixels on the screen.
I know there is a new Transformer tablet in the works that has significantly better specs...so I'd be best to wait. In the meantime, I found a mint TF101 with docking keyboard for $350. Everything checks out and it seems like a great package for the price. This coupled with ICS arriving in two weeks for the TF101 makes it a reasonable decision to return the defective Prime and get this original TF101 w/keyboard.
Is this a good move? I've never owned the original Transformer and hope that it is plenty fast to play flash content. Anyone care to offer a POV on this decision?
I plan on getting the newer Transformer in Q2 when it's rumored to release.

i think you should go for it !

I returned my Prime due to the "Unknown Serial Number", and bought the TF101. Although WiFi wasn't bad on my Prime, it is better on my TF101. My TF101 also performs flawlessly, and doesn't have any of the common issues some of the Primes suffer from. I'm happy I "downgraded".

I am in the same situation. I was contemplating the TF101 vs TF201. It was not an issue of money, though availability became an issue as TF201 stock got sold out. I just wanted a flawless Internet experience so having poor wifi was not good. It seems like Asus is in flux right now so better to get a stable machine. I will see what happens at the end of the year, maybe upgrade to TF700. I originally got a Windows tab which actually was not that bad of a touch experience. I had the Acer W500 which is the same form factor as the prime basically with the 10" tab and keyboard dock. It was also heavy, slow and the battery life was poor (<5 hours). I think the TF101 will be a lot of fun.

try the squeeze trick before returning. takes a couple seconds and ive heard it helps a lot of plagued tf201s. cant find the vid but just squeeze just above the entire top of the screen just enough to cause a little light bleed

try the squeeze trick before returning. takes a couple seconds and ive heard it helps a lot of plagued tf201s. cant find the vid but just squeeze just above the entire top of the screen just enough to cause a little light bleed
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But that isn't going to help the OP's pixel issue and pixel deformities are annoying as ****.
Just return it and either get the TF101 or wait for the TF700T. Really the TF101 should be much easier to find and much cheaper. You'll have less of a hassle finding it and it's tried and true. It was much too early for them to release the prime so it's not like you're losing something.

Interesting to see that I am not alone on this.
This week I returned my 3rd prime and was very close to say "Screw Asus" and look for a Windows tablet but then I thought why not give the original Transformer a shot. I got it yesterday and have to admit I am really impressed.
Everything works as it should, it has two USB ports instead of one, stereo speakers instead of one, a better hardware keyboard (at least in my opinion), the USB transfer rate seems to be much better, the screen seems to be more responsive and it is much cheaper.
And the funniest thing of em all: I don´t know why but it is even faster than Prime. Of course not in 3D games or stuff like that or 1080p videos etc.
But while doing normal usage, e-mailing, writing, watching videos, browsing etc.
And I havn´t even tried a custom ROM, yet.
Just to make this clear: I am comparing ICS Prime (three actually) to HC original Transformer. Which makes no sense to me.
So, the only few things that are better about the Prime are (in my opinion):
- It looks better
- It "look" better manufactured
- Slightly better battery life
- Slightly better display
- Smaller and lighter
And since I am planning to keep my Transformer only for a few months until the Padfone or the TF700 is out I think this was a really good decision.

prime is a prototype.. not ready for the public. it tells others that quad core is now possible/.

Came lookin' for the same question/answer. Have the T201 and has issues like 80% of everyone else. Bluetooth/wifi is a joke on the 201...I love using it for remote access to my Win7 box, but seems that when I'm streaming Spotify, if cuts out and loses connection. And, this is upstairs from my router 15 feet a way.
I guess it's time to research the h*** out of the T101 like I did the 201. 399 at bestbuy this week...will search for cheaper this week . . .

Me Too...Prime's WiFi WeaK Compared to Other Tablets
Thank you OP and other posters.
I too am about to return my Prime, and was wondering about the TF101 as a replacement.
I don't do much gaming but decided to buy the Prime since it was supposed to be state-of-the-art. Well, the WiFi just isn't as good as other tablets I've tested, both the Samsung Galaxy 10.1 and HTC Flyer get better WiFi at distance. I've moved my router and changed router settings so I get satisfactory WiFi now at home, but I'm worried about weak WiFi when I travel.
Son (who has the Galaxy 10.1) says I should return the Prime. So, now what to get? The Galaxy 10.1 looks like a very strong performer (especially so in WiFi), but was looking to see if the Original Transformer TF101 would be a good fit for me.
Just wondering what you all think? What will I "lose" if I "downgrade" to the Tf101?

Ride525 said:
Thank you OP and other posters.
I too am about to return my Prime, and was wondering about the TF101 as a replacement.
I don't do much gaming but decided to buy the Prime since it was supposed to be state-of-the-art. Well, the WiFi just isn't as good as other tablets I've tested, both the Samsung Galaxy 10.1 and HTC Flyer get better WiFi at distance. I've moved my router and changed router settings so I get satisfactory WiFi now at home, but I'm worried about weak WiFi when I travel.
Son (who has the Galaxy 10.1) says I should return the Prime. So, now what to get? The Galaxy 10.1 looks like a very strong performer (especially so in WiFi), but was looking to see if the Original Transformer TF101 would be a good fit for me.
Just wondering what you all think? What will I "lose" if I "downgrade" to the Tf101?
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Some pixels and the buggy software lol
I like Samsung, but galaxy does not have dock and Samsung had minimal support updates. Asus is spot on with their updates, despite the delay on ics for the tf101..

luna_c666 said:
Some pixels and the buggy software lol
I like Samsung, but galaxy does not have dock and Samsung had minimal support updates. Asus is spot on with their updates, despite the delay on ics for the tf101..
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Lose some pixels? What do you mean? Don't the Original Transformer and the Prime have the same resolution?
And what do you mean by buggy software? Is the Original Transformer's software more buggy, than the Primes? In what way? Or do you mean the Prime has more buggy software?
Thanks for any thoughts on my possible "downgrade".

Ride525 said:
Just wondering what you all think? What will I "lose" if I "downgrade" to the Tf101?
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So, the only few things that are better about the Prime are (in my opinion):
- It looks better
- It "look" better manufactured
- Slightly better battery life
- Slightly better display
- Smaller and lighter
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In short: If you can handle the size/weight and looks of the TF101, you should get it. Just my two cents.
EDIT: And of course the Prime´s camera is better and it behaves better with 3D games etc...at least in theory.

Ride525 said:
Lose some pixels? What do you mean? Don't the Original Transformer and the Prime have the same resolution?
And what do you mean by buggy software? Is the Original Transformer's software more buggy, than the Primes? In what way? Or do you mean the Prime has more buggy software?
Thanks for any thoughts on my possible "downgrade".
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You are right, my bad they do have the same size screen (I was thinking of the TF700) but the TF Prime has the 'Super IPS' screen and has more brightness (nits), but the ICS update has been bricking people's Primes, it also has crappy wifi/bluetooth as reported..
I say the TF101 is a safer bet, the TF201 is more a prototype as mentioned..not really ready for commercial consumption, more like the icebreaker paving the way for the real cargo ship (TF700)

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[...] but the TF Prime has the 'Super IPS' screen and has more brightness (nits), [...]
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That is true, too. The question is if it worth it.
I mean if you turn Super IPS mode + highest brightness settings you might easily get a sunburn from it...I don´t need that setting.

Your only really option is to get the TF101. Everything else is not preferable based on price : features or price : performance ratio.
With the Galaxy Tab 10.1 you're paying too much for what you're getting, that is good hardware and a good design but no or little updates. The hardware is roughly comparable to the TF101 so really all that you're getting out of it is good design, no expansion slot, no/little updates and pay more. Do not want.
The TF101 hits the sweet spot in terms of what you get for how much you pay and you're guaranteed to get ICS and most likely more updates after that. We've been getting updates for HC like what, once or twice every two months? Don't even think you'll see anything close to that with Sammy. Maybe one update a year or two.
The TF201 is good looking and good hardware and it shares the same Asus speed in terms of upgrades but the connectivity and build quality + launch issues leave a lot to be desired. It's confidence shaking, would I want to keep a tablet where the Wi-Fi and GPS are already **** and there's a possibility it might get worse? For $500 and with a successor already on the horizon? Do not want. Really it was a rushed, piece of garbage that's DOA. This is what happened when they decided to rush something rather than do their time with more R&D and releasing it in a more suitable time frame. They should have released the Prime when the TF700T is scheduled to be released (whatever date that is) which in my eyes puts the TF700T as what the Prime should have been, AKA the fix.

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They should have released the Prime when the TF700T is scheduled to be released (whatever date that is) which in my eyes puts the TF700T as what the Prime should have been, AKA the fix.
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Amen to that.
Plus, I hope the same applies to the Padfone.

The TF101 has much better WiFi than the Prime.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk

ericshmerick said:
I know there is a new Transformer tablet in the works that has significantly better specs...so I'd be best to wait. In the meantime, I found a mint TF101 with docking keyboard for $350. Everything checks out and it seems like a great package for the price. This coupled with ICS arriving in two weeks for the TF101 makes it a reasonable decision to return the defective Prime and get this original TF101 w/keyboard.
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Honestly, the TF101 will likely be better than that successor model, too. The latter has far too high screen resolution, which will lead to problems in some apps, give no advantage at all in most apps (just extra blur from scaling), and cause eye strain in some apps. As an added bonus, it'll reduce battery life and make everything slower.
All so Asus can put a bigger-is-better number on a spec sheet.
They got it right with the TF101, by and large. They're struggling to invent a reason for people to upgrade, and not doing a great job of it.

Being an early adopter of the TF101(my first one was a B40) I had to deal with the pain of owning a new model. Asus has been right on time with their updates and they pay attention to what people post on the internet. It is my opinion that in a few months the Prime will be ready for prime time. But until then I will do my best to wear out my B50 Transformer. It is a great little device totally stock.

Xoom v Galaxt tab 8.9?

Trying to decide which i would prefer!
I like the slim light Sammy, but the Xoom seems smoother. There are issues with the 8.9 that means its quite laggy, even with the best custom ROMs. The hope is ICS will fix it. The Xoom is silky smooth but the screen isnt so good. What are your thoughts?

Are you sure its still laggy with custom rom?
might just be touchwiz. They are both technically more than capable.
Your first task is to decide which sideboard more suitable and also which looks better. Done.

My understanding is that touchwiz is an issue, but that there is still something else going on to do wit portrait/landscape orientation. The 8.9 is reversed compared to the Xoom and as such some games dont work properly and it lags.
The Xoom feels older and is heavy, but seems better value. Both are £279 in the UK right now. Maybe ill order both and return the one i dont like as much..

Xoom all the way. Just sold my 8.9 for a xoom. Its a better value and overall experience. If size and screen is a factor get the 8.9. But overall the xoom is better in every way. Plus updates are key
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rovex said:
Trying to decide which i would prefer!
I like the slim light Sammy, but the Xoom seems smoother. There are issues with the 8.9 that means its quite laggy, even with the best custom ROMs. The hope is ICS will fix it. The Xoom is silky smooth but the screen isnt so good. What are your thoughts?
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Hey there...
I currently have a Xoom 2 (typing on it right now actually), and my fiancee has the 8.9 Samsung...from what I have seen so far:
- the 8.9 screen is beautiful, and nicer than my Xoom2
- Xoom 2 is quite glitchy/laggy in my opinion (I am rooted and running 3.2.2), as I am typing this I'm struggling with the keyboard (words are slow to appear and not a fluid typing experience)
- have waited an eternity for any kind of update from Motorola... I'm not holding my breath for ICS (even though I am already running it on my SGS )
-8.9 is slightly more comfortable to hold over longer periods because it's smaller
-Xoom stock browser is pretty good,quite stable...although I now use Opera Mini Next
-Latest 3.2.2 update has fixed a lot of graphical bugs and seems to be running a little smoother than on 3.2
-On the negative side, the 8.9 uses Kies, which is a dealbreaker for me...never want to use that rubbish software again after all the trouble I had with my SGS
Overall, if I had to make the choice I'd probably go for the Samsung...because you can connect it as mass storage and bypass Kies...you'll just have to use 3rd party aps/software for backing up your data.
However, I'm afraid I cant comment on the android development for each device...i just know that currently there is sweet FA available for the Xoom 2 (I've only just found out how to root it), but no ROMs as yet. I havent looked in the 8.9 section, so cannot comment on the possibility of modding it. But i believe there is a lot of stuff available for the original Xoom,which is nice !
Disclaimer...I'm sure there are plenty of people that will disagree with me about some of the points above, but hey, thats life
Hope some of this helps you
IG =]

Get the OG Xoom.
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qhinton said:
Get the OG Xoom.
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rovex said:
Trying to decide which i would prefer!
I like the slim light Sammy, but the Xoom seems smoother. There are issues with the 8.9 that means its quite laggy, even with the best custom ROMs. The hope is ICS will fix it. The Xoom is silky smooth but the screen isnt so good. What are your thoughts?
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- Xoom with ICS is quite smooth.
- Xoom is heavy - but that indicates a higher build quality. But, I'll go for light myself next time since I take good care of my stuff and carry stuff in individual neoprene cases in my bag.
- Xoom screen is fine, but not leading class. Samsung screens are highly overly saturated wrt colors; if you like that then great, but the colors are not accurate.

I'm in the UK and had the same choice when they dropped the prices... I went for Xoom...
very smooth with ICS on... SD card slot was the clincher! I have loaded cards up with movies and music... fixed memory and no expansion slot sux hugely!

Geeba said:
I'm in the UK and had the same choice when they dropped the prices... I went for Xoom...
very smooth with ICS on... SD card slot was the clincher! I have loaded cards up with movies and music... fixed memory and no expansion slot sux hugely!
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this is why the xoom is probably the best tablet available, especially with another ICS update coming soon.

Plus touchwiz is extremly slow and laggy. I don't miss my 8.9 I am very satisfied with the xoom. No expandable memory was not a big deal, but at the same time it was. Now I can load up songs on my SD card and take he xoom in my car which saves on my phones battery. Plus if you play games 32 gigs will be more than enough for data. As far as development the 8.9 has like 3-4 roms, 1-2 honeycomb and 1-2 ICS (no working camera). For future updates I think the xoom will get JELLYBean because its still the only developer device until the nexus tablet in April, but that will also be a daul core. So I think we are safe for 1 more year. The 8.9 will be long gone and forgotten by the end of the year. One other cool thing it the Bluetooth keyboard and track pad made by Motorola and connecting the xoom to your flat screen is great. Its basically google TV but with all the apps.
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dislike touchwhiz very much
love the value of the wifi xoom (1) get one from any region of your choosing and roll ICS onto it and youll have yourself one of the most capable tablets available

rovex said:
Trying to decide which i would prefer!
I like the slim light Sammy, but the Xoom seems smoother. There are issues with the 8.9 that means its quite laggy, even with the best custom ROMs. The hope is ICS will fix it. The Xoom is silky smooth but the screen isnt so good. What are your thoughts?
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LOL, you are in a Xoom Forum, you know what we are gonna say!
Love the Xoom, wouldn't trade it for any other tab.

If you are going to root it and flash roms then the Xoom has a lot more development and I think it will continue to get lots of development support for a lot of years.
I have a Verizon Xoom and am running the teameos rom and it is amazing. My wife has a tab and it isn't terrible but the Xoom is a lot more fun when I can play with roms and overclock it etc.
Whenever I purchase an android device from now on I will always go with the device that had the most development.
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Intergalacdroid said:
Hey there...
I currently have a Xoom 2 (typing on it right now actually), and my fiancee has the 8.9 Samsung...from what I have seen so far:
- the 8.9 screen is beautiful, and nicer than my Xoom2
- Xoom 2 is quite glitchy/laggy in my opinion (I am rooted and running 3.2.2), as I am typing this I'm struggling with the keyboard (words are slow to appear and not a fluid typing experience)
- have waited an eternity for any kind of update from Motorola... I'm not holding my breath for ICS (even though I am already running it on my SGS )
-8.9 is slightly more comfortable to hold over longer periods because it's smaller
-Xoom stock browser is pretty good,quite stable...although I now use Opera Mini Next
-Latest 3.2.2 update has fixed a lot of graphical bugs and seems to be running a little smoother than on 3.2
-On the negative side, the 8.9 uses Kies, which is a dealbreaker for me...never want to use that rubbish software again after all the trouble I had with my SGS
Overall, if I had to make the choice I'd probably go for the Samsung...because you can connect it as mass storage and bypass Kies...you'll just have to use 3rd party aps/software for backing up your data.
However, I'm afraid I cant comment on the android development for each device...i just know that currently there is sweet FA available for the Xoom 2 (I've only just found out how to root it), but no ROMs as yet. I havent looked in the 8.9 section, so cannot comment on the possibility of modding it. But i believe there is a lot of stuff available for the original Xoom,which is nice !
Disclaimer...I'm sure there are plenty of people that will disagree with me about some of the points above, but hey, thats life
Hope some of this helps you
IG =]
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Great response. Balanced and holistic.
willysp said:
- Xoom with ICS is quite smooth.
- Xoom is heavy - but that indicates a higher build quality. But, I'll go for light myself next time since I take good care of my stuff and carry stuff in individual neoprene cases in my bag.
- Xoom screen is fine, but not leading class. Samsung screens are highly overly saturated wrt colors; if you like that then great, but the colors are not accurate.
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not going to argue, but heavy is an indicator of build quality?
I dont think this is always the case.
Either way. you posted this in the Xoom forum, so you can expect certain responses.
The xoom 2 is a nice unit though. looks a little unusual with the tapered edges, but nicely weighted.

new to me Xoom.....wow

I have owned several android tablets. I received my xoom from an eBay auction on Saturday...a 4g model. I spent about two hours getting the unlocked boot loader route and CWM. I then installed the EOS ROM.
I have spent the last couple hours customizing the device getting this software that I wanted on it.
Based on the four hours I have spent with the device all I can say is......WOW.
I purchased on of the first Android tablets...the white pos from China. In fact, i may have had one of the first android tablet specific groups....Slatedroid was spawned from a google group I started.
I say this to say....I've been in this space from the beginning....I know a good tablet when I see one. I boughT and rooted a nook color. Solid but slow I bought the woot gtab...surprisingly slow. They've always been nice...kind of fun....but never really a mainstay for me. I have a convertible tablet PC and I always went back to that, even for basic consumption. I researched tablets for about 4 months this time before i finally pulled the trigger on the xoom. it seems like this Xoom might actually work.
The browsing performance of chrome is fantastic...not much latency at all.
The responsiveness of the Xoom overall is great.
The price put it at a solid value...and I have the option of 4g when I want. It didn't break the bank, so when the next gen stuff comes out I can give this to my wife.
So far...I love this thing. I'm on it all the time...and that's the true test isn't it.
I really don't know how it could be improved...ics is solid...
I'm pumped !
Cheers!
Matt

Damn right! Dude try cornerstone....this thing is like a really sexy PC with it.....such a great value!
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Good choice my friend! Welcome to the Dark Side -

sudermatt said:
I have owned several android tablets. I received my xoom from an eBay auction on Saturday...a 4g model. I spent about two hours getting the unlocked boot loader route and CWM. I then installed the EOS ROM.
I have spent the last couple hours customizing the device getting this software that I wanted on it.
Based on the four hours I have spent with the device all I can say is......WOW.
I purchased on of the first Android tablets...the white pos from China. In fact, i may have had one of the first android tablet specific groups....Slatedroid was spawned from a google group I started.
I say this to say....I've been in this space from the beginning....I know a good tablet when I see one. I boughT and rooted a nook color. Solid but slow I bought the woot gtab...surprisingly slow. They've always been nice...kind of fun....but never really a mainstay for me. I have a convertible tablet PC and I always went back to that, even for basic consumption. I researched tablets for about 4 months this time before i finally pulled the trigger on the xoom. it seems like this Xoom might actually work.
The browsing performance of chrome is fantastic...not much latency at all.
The responsiveness of the Xoom overall is great.
The price put it at a solid value...and I have the option of 4g when I want. It didn't break the bank, so when the next gen stuff comes out I can give this to my wife.
So far...I love this thing. I'm on it all the time...and that's the true test isn't it.
I really don't know how it could be improved...ics is solid...
I'm pumped !
Cheers!
Matt
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You are so right...Xoom is still the best overall tablet. With EOS and ICS 4.0.4 there is none better. I have been using mine constantly for a year and I have no immediate plans to replace it. It just keeps getting better, with the best developers around.

to bad chrome does not support flash otherwise it would be an awesome browser

So what are ya'lls opinions on new units coming down the pipe with higher resolution and better processors.
Personally after looking at the new retina display of an ipad 3rd gen all day, I find it difficult to go back to my Xoom.

cwizardtx said:
So what are ya'lls opinions on new units coming down the pipe with higher resolution and better processors.
Personally after looking at the new retina display of an ipad 3rd gen all day, I find it difficult to go back to my Xoom.
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Yes...I'm waiting for the hi-res....uber-core...units to come out. But Apple will never get my money. I don't want to discuss that here.
That's why I bought this Xoom used...to save some scratch, and cred with the wife, so I can get the latest and greatest in the fall.

My wife is getting tired of my hand-me-downs. She swears she's taking the next upgrade.
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So what are ya'lls opinions on new units coming down the pipe with higher resolution and better processors.
Personally after looking at the new retina display of an ipad 3rd gen all day, I find it difficult to go back to my Xoom.
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Ugh. There's always gotta be one in the crowd . Yes, Motorola could have invested more in our displays. And I would have paid more for some IPS love. It is what it is...

That white pos from China wouldn't happen to be the Huawei s7 would it? Lol, that was my first tablet back in '10.

bigrushdog said:
My wife is getting tired of my hand-me-downs. She swears she's taking the next upgrade.
Ugh. There's always gotta be one in the crowd . Yes, Motorola could have invested more in our displays. And I would have paid more for some IPS love. It is what it is...
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My Samsung E4GT has a"dynamic" screen setting that literally burns my retinas...I have to leave it on standard, lol. I love my Xoom screen...seems more natural, not so aggressive. And I'm a painter so I love me some colors! Go figure.

bigrushdog said:
My wife is getting tired of my hand-me-downs. She swears she's taking the next upgrade.
Ugh. There's always gotta be one in the crowd . Yes, Motorola could have invested more in our displays. And I would have paid more for some IPS love. It is what it is...
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One what. I loved my Xoom from the day I bought it but its outdated now. Even on the android side of things, there are tablets coming out/out with higher resolution displays and more power under the hood.
I still use my Xoom, it's on my night stand as an alarm clock

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One what.
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An Apple fan an an Android board lol
I loved my Xoom from the day I bought it but its outdated now. Even on the android side of things, there are tablets coming out/out with higher resolution displays and more power under the hood.
I still use my Xoom, it's on my night stand as an alarm clock
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Ive been disappointed so far. The TF Prime is a epic letdown. I mean really, where is this mystery super Android tablet hiding? Besides a Xoom running eos

About to sell before the Nexus tablet

Hi all,
I'm about to sell my 7.7 its a great device but the OS sluggyness (more than a second to unluck is not right) is getting on my nerves.
Its clear this isnt going to get any form of regular updates so to stave my losses on it I'm going to sell this now and ideally do so before the Google Tablet arrives.
Is a great machine but with the lack of dev community its a no go for any early adopters liking to play.
Real shame samsung.
btk

Is this where we post "Cool story bro"?

Just remove the lock option if its peeing you off,
i don't have it set on mine so its instant off,
also use another launcher or if you like the stock launch then just have it set with the single home screen,
i currently use the TW launcher with 1 home screen and 2 widgets no problems,
have come close to buying another tablet but there isn't one that feels as good a the 7.7...

I still cannot believe that the nexus tablet is going to be sold as cheap as it is rumored to be atm.
Anyways, let's say it really is: Then it would actually be a good idea to get rid of the unsupported tab 7.7 in time, as you could easily buy two nexus tabs for the money the 7.7 is valued right now.
I think there has to be a hook somewhere.

billytkid said:
Hi all,
I'm about to sell my 7.7 its a great device but the OS sluggyness (more than a second to unluck is not right) is getting on my nerves.
Its clear this isnt going to get any form of regular updates so to stave my losses on it I'm going to sell this now and ideally do so before the Google Tablet arrives.
Is a great machine but with the lack of dev community its a no go for any early adopters liking to play.
Real shame samsung.
btk
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it is a really good idea i have a same feeling too

I guess I see it as a quirky exotic car. Not as reliable as a cheaper econobox, but 7.7 has my favorite combination of build quality, super thin form factor - yet great battery life, and awesome screen. To me there isn't enough improvement over the 7.7 with the Nexus Tablet that makes me want to swap.
As others have mentioned, swap out the stock launcher & browser, use NoLock, etc. I have tweaked around almost all the deficiencies of the 7.7 and have 99% of what I want in my perfect tablet. The only troublesome issues are this random looping reboot problem that we're discussing in the other thread I haven't been able to make headway with and also that i wish i could enable bluetooth phone profile on the Verizon version.
Maybe when more details are announced for Nexus Tab that make it more awesome, and if the damn random reboot problem on my VZ 7.7 keeps happening.

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I guess I see it as a quirky exotic car. Not as reliable as a cheaper econobox, but 7.7 has my favorite combination of build quality, super thin form factor - yet great battery life, and awesome screen. To me there isn't enough improvement over the 7.7 with the Nexus Tablet that makes me want to swap.
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I do sympathize with the OP. The 7.7 will be my last Samsung product. it's simply not acceptable anymore to launch a premium tablet without appropriate support when the software is just not adequate.
This said, I agree with above. It is still the "best" hardware on the market as far as 7" format goes, with the only possible upgrades being the processor and the screen (resolution wise; would make a huge difference for ebook reading - you get used to the retina screen). I'd have to wait to be tempted by any of the upcoming models, an still seriously hope Samsung will do the right thing and release ICS soon.
The main drawback compared to the Google offering will be the lack of phone option.

globiboulga said:
I do sympathize with the OP. The 7.7 will be my last Samsung product. it's simply not acceptable anymore to launch a premium tablet without appropriate support when the software is just not adequate.
This said, I agree with above. It is still the "best" hardware on the market as far as 7" format goes, with the only possible upgrades being the processor and the screen (resolution wise; would make a huge difference for ebook reading - you get used to the retina screen). I'd have to wait to be tempted by any of the upcoming models, an still seriously hope Samsung will do the right thing and release ICS soon.
The main drawback compared to the Google offering will be the lack of phone option.
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100% agreed

There will be compromise, Mostly screen Nothing beats Amoled!!, no gsm 3g, maybe tiny battery , bigger chunkyer, not magnesium crappyer build quality. The reason the cpu will be good is because it will be mass manufactured, and thats why the price will be so affordable. I think.

I was reading a report online last week that spoke of them going into mass production with some CPU manufacturer, lets see as I have my good days and bad day with the galaxy tab 7.7....
Do wish they would kick the ICS out for this baby and we could see if worth keeping or not, but yes I totally agree with most people on this and Samsung has dropped the ball on this and will be my last Samsung product

I also agree with OP's point to an extent. I actually went from an original Galaxy Tablet, to the 7 Plus, and hate that Samsung does this to their customers. They got our money and forgot about after purchase support. If the 7.7 wasn't such a great device I wouldn't have went with another Samsung.
The next best device I would consider for myself would be the Toshiba Thrive 7.7 - also a SAMOLED+ screen, Tegra 3, skinnier than 7.7 but Wifi only and i really enjoy the battery life and built in LTE from the tablet w/ my 7.7.

be aware !
nexus tablet might lack 3g,LTE, rear camera to make it a affordable device.

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nexus tablet might lack 3g,LTE, rear camera to make it a affordable device.
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to hit the price point, those things are well worth the sacrifice.
unless your tablet is your sole device, most people will have a phone which can do all those other things. the tablet was meant to be a secondary device you can use which is inbetween completely portable (phone) and non-portable (desktop).

Humm, no 3g that sux. I use 3g for data.
WiFi at home 3g when I am not, thats a deal braker for me.

I don't have the 7.7 but having played with it in store, I can't imagine Google matching it in quality for the price point they want. That'd be a pretty incredible feat.
Given that I think it'd be a hasty mistake to sell. It sucks for ICS to still not be there but it'll come - and chances are good you'll have a better tab than Google's then.
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Got £340 in the end for the tab and have just spent £200 on the g7,sold just in time me thinks.
Feels like I got there just in time.
If 7.7 had Samsung support I wouldn't have swapped
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The Nexus tab is a competitor to the Kindle and Nook, i dont know why you would downgrade, give it a few weeks and ICS will be available.
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The Nexus tab is a competitor to the Kindle and Nook, i dont know why you would downgrade, give it a few weeks and ICS will be available.
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Yep though Tegra3 is superior CPU, I think once ICS drops, aside from Tegrazone games we won't notice any real life difference. The CPU @ 1.4 in our 7.7 is more than fast enough. Heck even my 1Ghz Tegra2 sony tablet s flies with ICS
The killer battery life and 3G is whats making me keep this instead of flogging and buying a Nexus 7 (at a profit too lol)

I agree with more or less all the comments on here, the built quality of the 7.7, weight, and that screen is amazing, but we have been waiting far too long for ICS and Jelly bean is around the corner. We have the advantage of a SD slot 3g etc but the hardware specs of the Nexus 7 is just better in terms of CPU GPU etc under the hood. In my opinion if you just use your tablet for casual use, browsing and consuming digital content then the Nexus 7 makes sense. for cheaper and better experience. But if you have loads of apps, content and you use your tablet as a travel companion and main device to create and produce things then the 7.7 is still a great device. I am in 2 minds right now, might sell up with all my accesories and get 2 nexus 7's one for the wife and one for me. Just not sure

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I agree with more or less all the comments on here, the built quality of the 7.7, weight, and that screen is amazing, but we have been waiting far too long for ICS and Jelly bean is around the corner. We have the advantage of a SD slot 3g etc but the hardware specs of the Nexus 7 is just better in terms of CPU GPU etc under the hood. In my opinion if you just use your tablet for casual use, browsing and consuming digital content then the Nexus 7 makes sense. for cheaper and better experience. But if you have loads of apps, content and you use your tablet as a travel companion and main device to create and produce things then the 7.7 is still a great device. I am in 2 minds right now, might sell up with all my accesories and get 2 nexus 7's one for the wife and one for me. Just not sure
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Just wait for ICS, with hopefull improvements it will blow the nexus tan out the water even if it has "better software"
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Worth buying now?

Hello everybody,
Im planning on purchasing the atrix only for the finger print security feature. Do you think its a good move. Im currently using samsung galaxy W.
Does it have a functional CM9 with camera and finger print scanner. Is it easy to use or just an over hyped feature?
Hows the battery life?
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Sensor is easy to use but you still have to press and then swipe. I am currently using it on CM7. I am not sure if it is working on CM9.

IMO, this phone isn't worth a penny now. You should look into a more recent phone that already has ics.

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IMO, this phone isn't worth a penny now. You should look into a more recent phone that already has ics.
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But isnt this the only phone with a finger print sensor? I love the galaxy nexus but the hardware on atrix seems good enough combined with this unique security feature.
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But isnt this the only phone with a finger print sensor? I love the galaxy nexus but the hardware on atrix seems good enough combined with this unique security feature.
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If you are 100% sure that you want a phone with a finger print sensor then yes, the Atrix is the only one. I personally find the screen size of the Atrix which is 4 inches too small nowadays. The CPU quickly overheats even with browsing the internet or watching a video. Yes, the 1GB of ram and the dual core are nice but I would personally go with the galaxy nexus since you will be getting Android 4.1 (Jelly Bean) that Google just announced a few days ago.

She has been kicking butt.
I'm not sure why "Atrix_Owner" is being so negitive about the Atrix, unless there has been some trouble.
The specs on the phone are decent, and it has been very responsive. At the moment CM7 is still far more tested than 9, and If you want proper support for the array of docking accessories, I would suggest a blur rom (I have reverted to using NottachTrix).
I would say if it fits your budget and you are wanting a print scanner, it is well worth it. If nothing else, the battery life is pretty amazing once you are away from a stock rom. Just make sure to search the forums for instructions on battery calibration.

Atrix is a good buy considering price / performance ratio and its unique features.

This phone is really good, and there are many cm7 based roms with working fingerprint. If Motorola honours its commitment to give us ics, then we'll have really good cm9 roms as well. I do hope the ics drivers carry over to jelly bean as well, since I highly doubt Motorola will provide an update for that once its released.
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i have dual booted my atrix and it runs both the roms with zero lag !!
so hardware-wise you're not falling behind unless you want a quad core !
buying it now totally depends at the price you would be getting it !
also battery life and audio quality is excellent on this device !
still one of my favourite devices :good:

If you get the phone for less than $50, go for it. Otherwise...get a flagship phone.

I like the Atrix because of the scanner lock, I dont think it is a feature that most people use or need but for me it is a reason I am keeping my phone. If I want to surf the web or watch a movie I use my Xoom.
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Thanks alot guys for the help and your advises. Its always good to recieve feedback from actual users of the phone.
Brand new costs 400 usd but there is a guy selling a sealed brand new piece for 265. I guess id go for it.
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I have 2 atrixes. They are good phones for the price. I lucked out I think and got them both at 150 a piece used. Just found out my warranty is good on both still and sent one back to motor( there latest update messed it all up). If u want to spend more money you can get something better but in my opinion you get plenty bang for your buck

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If you are 100% sure that you want a phone with a finger print sensor then yes, the Atrix is the only one. I personally find the screen size of the Atrix which is 4 inches too small nowadays. The CPU quickly overheats even with browsing the internet or watching a video. Yes, the 1GB of ram and the dual core are nice but I would personally go with the galaxy nexus since you will be getting Android 4.1 (Jelly Bean) that Google just announced a few days ago.
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Might as well wait for the Note 2 if you are going to waste money on a GNX.
ICS is overrated anyway for all the hoopla it gets.
Basically like when people go so excited over GB. *yawn*

I have 1 week with a used atrix (preview owner of a xperia play) i was always a sony fan but seen the screen of the atrix i have never seen any xperia (even the new ones) with a screen so nice.
If you check specs on new phones this one is on the top. Maybe the battery is weak (if you use it for intense gaming) .
ICS? i liked it on tablet but not on my phone. I own a motorola xoom and it was a relif when ICS came because it was made for table but on phones it only adds few changes worth the upgrade. Motoblur got it right with gingerbread. ICS looks to black and bland :S

The phone is pretty good if you get it REALLY cheap.
It has some hardware features which I adore such as dedicated HDMI port, the fingerprint scanner and a pretty decent battery but the tegra 2 chipset is just weak, unless you're using CM7 you'll have animation lag and the developers community is rather dedicated but relatively tiny compared to the flagship devices from google, samsung and HTC.
If you're just looking for great performance, ROM stability and variety
get a nexus or S3, the smoothness and the ROM variety is remarkable.
I purchased my atrix for the webtop. I really hoped that it would be something I could take for some light web browsing and note taking and it was a horrible, laggy and broken experience.
Only now with a relatively stable CM7 the webtop experience is getting pretty good but instead of utilizing the full screen resolution, it simply mirrors the phone with a sub-par resolution.
Current CM9 roms can't record video, have a really unstable cam and often have graphic related issues which are not in any way a developer's fault since they have to manage without any moto libraries for the ICS.
Motorola promised ICS sometime in Q3, which means it wont be available until the last day of September and I'm being optimistic.
The device is not bad. I've seen so much worse, however it's not a middle range or a cheap device. It might be more than a year old but it's still a flagship.
I personally feel offended that my old Samsung captivate has a smooth, fast fully functional ICS that works heaps faster than my CM7 atrix.
I really hope that sometime later this year I'll take my words back, but so far I can't recommend the device as it is.

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If you get the phone for less than $50, go for it. Otherwise...get a flagship phone.
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Somebody could offer me $200 for my Atrix and I still wouldn't sell it. This may be the first smartphone that I may NEVER sell. (I've owned close to 20 of them too).
Currently I just got a SGSII, and I keep putting my SIM back in my Atrix since there's too many things that don't work properly on the SGSII. For example text to fit (reflow or double tap manually doesn't work on the default browser) is just one issue. There's others.
IDK I keep looking over @ my SGSII and wondering if I may just sell it off to my friend willing to buy it. If i keep it, it will probably be for a few months. Sad that my Atrix without ICS does more than my SGSII with ICS. Really the only thing that I like about the SGSII is the screen. Yeah it really is that good, but the flaws are kinda bringing it down.
@OP yeah get the Atrix, IMHO $300 or less (being dead serious about that price) is still worth it for this phone... (and yes battery life is amazing)
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Well..
Atrix 4G's fingerprint security feature is
very cool.
But There are only unoffical CM9 and it has lots of problem.
You should wait until 3Q for offical ICS.
(This is plan for U.S)
So, it is better to do not buy Atrix 4G for
ICS
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I have a contract coming to an end and started looking around for a new phone. Did some research on ICS and found networks can detect tethering on ICS but not on Gingerbread.
Looking at new phones, Sony have nothing of interest. Why buy a Nexus with only 16Gb of storage? Galaxy S3 is too big. I love HTC phones but all the new HTCs are rubbish (like the Nexus, never buy an android phone without an sd card slot!). And I don't do Apple, I'm no fruit muncher.
Then I came across the Atrix. Brand new, unused, in box, 150. Webtop, hdmi, dual core, bluetooth keyboard/mouse, docks with full size usb sockets, takes 64gb sd card, mugen battery. Great custom ROMs, webtops etc. Name one new phone that does all of that!!
OK, at the moment it is gingerbread only, but Motorola will release ICS for ATT version later this year and there will be some good custom ROMs after that.
I jumped at the chance to own this android icon.

At $150 or 150 €, the Atrix is still a very interesting buy...