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How long does it take to your tytn to wake up?

Hello
My tytn require a quite large amount of time to wake up and I was wondering if I was the only one in this case.
It may require from 2 to 4 seconds to recover from standby; I tried to phone myself and it took about one or 2 "tuuuut" (sorry, no better english translation for that word =)) before the phone began to ring; this is quite anoying because I have to answer very fast in order not to miss call.
The virtual keyboard used for inputing the code is also getting on my nerv; most of the time it start with the landscape layout (without any reason) and it take 2 sec to adjust to the portrait layout; during that time it is hard for me to input my code correctly because the size of the key is changing.
So, 2-4 seconds for waking up plus 2 seconds for keyboard adjustement is in my opinion quite slow. Am I the only one experiencing this? Are there fixes out there?
I also have some trouble with notification; it wake the device up! If the device is not password protected (only after 15 minutes on my phone) it start most of the time PIE (because of the hardware button). All this lead so to my second question: Is there a way not to wake up the device (at least the input) in order to avoid unwanted press on the hardwares buttons.
Thank you in advance !

fun_key said:
Is there a way not to wake up the device (at least the input) in order to avoid unwanted press on the hardwares buttons.
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Settings -> System -> Key Lock -> When device is off: "Lock all buttons except Power button"

Thanks for your fast answer, i ll give a try!
Concerning the screen orientation issue I found out that it is related to the HTC case magnet.
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In fact it was already configured like this; the device is not waked up by the hardware buttons, but by the notifications.

if you use the key lock you can avoid unwanted key presses. As for wake up times. I don't think anyone who has this device wants to admit that it takes to long cause they paid sooo much for it. However, I will admit that it does take a long time to wake up. I am comfortable saying this because its much like a turbo car, at first its not as fast as most naturally aspirated cars (turbo lag), then it blows their doors off. So it takes a couple seconds to wake up, then its faster then most other devices.
Later, Lew

Agreed. Coming from standby I get two rings of the "Old Phone" ringtone before it goes to voice mail.

I am hoping that new firmware will resolve this issue - my wizard was certainly more responsive when i presses the poer button to bring it out of standby. This is furthur delayed by the fact that i keep scabbling around the top of the device for the power button insted of the side!

pof said:
Settings -> System -> Key Lock -> When device is off: "Lock all buttons except Power button"
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This doesn't help with the particular problem. What I think fun_key is trying to say is that whenever he gets a notification (for example when he gets a new sms message or a notification for a meeting) the phone will come out of sleep mode, so the key lock setting for "when device is off" won't be in effect. Instead the device will be powered up and accepting all keypresses, like the IE / Messaging- buttons, not to mention any presses on the screen.
I too find this annoying, and wish there was a way to make the phone go back to sleep after showing me a notification, instead of waiting for the default sleep time to go by. There are programs out there that have this functionality (for example MortSaver) though, so my advice would be to use those.
- Pud.0

thank for the mortsaver ip; i ll give a try!

Have exactly the same problems as fun_key (power button, keyboard in landscape, etc), and I suspect most of other people do. The wizard was definitely more responsive.

fun_key said:
It may require from 2 to 4 seconds to recover from standby; I tried to phone myself and it took about one or 2 "tuuuut" (sorry, no better english translation for that word =)) before the phone began to ring; this is quite anoying because I have to answer very fast in order not to miss call.QUOTE]
I've found a solution to the problem regarding the length of time before a call is missed (this is probably known by most people, I only found it after tinkering with the settings):
Start>Settings>Phone>Services(Tab). Choose Call Forwarding in the list, then click Get Settings. Change the 'Forward After' setting to a higher number. I changed mine to 25 seconds. Problem solved for me!
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g00nerz said:
fun_key said:
It may require from 2 to 4 seconds to recover from standby; I tried to phone myself and it took about one or 2 "tuuuut" (sorry, no better english translation for that word =)) before the phone began to ring; this is quite anoying because I have to answer very fast in order not to miss call.QUOTE]
I've found a solution to the problem regarding the length of time before a call is missed (this is probably known by most people, I only found it after tinkering with the settings):
Start>Settings>Phone>Services(Tab). Choose Call Forwarding in the list, then click Get Settings. Change the 'Forward After' setting to a higher number. I changed mine to 25 seconds. Problem solved for me!
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Glad your problem is solved. Perhaps others may find the following of note as well as your solution above:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-258109.html
Mike
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Hi team
I have the same issue, every time i turn my hermes on after its been off for more than say 30seconds it starts in landscape mode then switches to portraite mode, its driving me mad, at least i now know i am not the only person. maybe this will be fixed in the next rom update, fingers crossed aye
UPDATE: i also found this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286552&highlight=standby+landscape
does anyone have any thoughts on his comments?

I actually think that the reply in the thread i posted above is correct,
My Hermes is an IMATE JASJAM (same thing of course) and i use the original belt holder that came with it, it has two (2) magnets in it to keep the cover shut, when ever i get a msg and i pull it out of the case (turns on automatically to show me the msg) its always comes out in landscape mode.
I turned my phone on and passed the cover with magnet side down over the phone and sure enough as i did that the screen changed from portrait to landscape mode, thus confirming its the magnet that causes it and not a defect with the phone.

Screen Off during phone call

Hi all and best wishes for this new year.
My boss has a Herald (TYTN II in france).
Each time he makes a phone call, the screen goes off and the only way to switch it on is to press the power buton.
How can he change the settings of this behaviour? (let the screen powered on)
My phone (Eten X800) doesn't react in the same way, I'm not able to find how to change this.
Thanks for your help,
Steph

sorry, but for me a TytnII is a HTC Kaiser.... not Herald.
And sorry - never heard of this problem.
Steph217 said:
Hi all and best wishes for this new year.
My boss has a Herald (TYTN II in france).
Each time he makes a phone call, the screen goes off and the only way to switch it on is to press the power buton.
How can he change the settings of this behaviour? (let the screen powered on)
My phone (Eten X800) doesn't react in the same way, I'm not able to find how to change this.
Thanks for your help,
Steph
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You're right, the picture makes me think it was this one...
Is there an Admin who can move this thread to the right place?
Thanks'!

Kaisertweak
For Kaiser (TytnII) there is a tool called KaiserTweak which will do the job (there is an option in the "calls" section to switch on/off the screen during calls).
This will change the requiered registry-keys for you.

Hi petervbeck,
thanks a lot, that's exactly what he needs!
Bye,
Steph

Locking / S2U2 / Stand by questions

Hi folks
I'm back again with some more dumb questions (bear with me - I'm Irish).
On my old Nokia, I could lock the phone by pressing 2 keys and hey presto, phone now safe!
With the HD, things seem a bit complex. Firstly, there's power managenent that controls how long the back light stays on for and how long the phone stays on for before going into stand by.
Q1. Is standby not another form of locking ? If so why not just press th epower button whenever you want to lock the phone and be done with it ?
Then there is the built in locking software that comes with the app.
Q2. Whats the problem with this? (i.e. long pressing the end key and choosing 'Lock the device'; Why do we even need S2U2 ?
Then there's S2U2 itself. The settings page is long and complex.
Q3. Is there a S2U2 manual anywhere ? (to explain some of those ambiguous settings)
Finally, and here is my most important question...
Q4. Can I use my HD like I used to use my Noika - i.e. press a key or 2 to lock the goddam phone an just be done with it ?
As it is, when I want to use my phone, I have to press the power button to take it out of standby, and then I have to slide the S2U2 unlock switch. Its a lot of hassle just to make a phone call.
Is it me? Am I that stupid? What am I doing wrong ? What am I missing ?

Doesn't pressing the "End call" button for 2-3 seconds also lock the phone?
Regards!

I do understand what you're saying. I figured out something really basic just the other day, that is if your phone is locked or in sleep mode just pull out your stylus and it'll unlock and wake up.
Just 1 movement.
Sorry if this is really common knowledge and you already know this but sometimes we overlook the more basic functions on such a complex device!!
Cheers
DB

Power button into standby is a fine lock for me. Nearly impossible to accidently knock the power button to turn it back on.

jon- said:
Power button into standby is a fine lock for me. Nearly impossible to accidently knock the power button to turn it back on.
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Yep i do this too.
Press the power button mate, and it will lock the phone
I like how the phone unlocks when you take the stylus out but i didnt like how it locks the phone when you put the stylus back in, so i removed that function using the options in gyrator

I have got TOUCH HD since 1week.
I haven't problem with touch hd like touch diamond.
it is in my pocket but the new phone canvas and the sensitive key prenve nt missing call.
for me no need s2u2 or pocket shield like diamond.

is there a registry option for disabling the unlock when the stylus is removed/falls out ????

matou25 said:
I have got TOUCH HD since 1week.
I haven't problem with touch hd like touch diamond.
it is in my pocket but the new phone canvas and the sensitive key prenve nt missing call.
for me no need s2u2 or pocket shield like diamond.
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why my HD no "Phone Canvas"?

Jezwick said:
is there a registry option for disabling the unlock when the stylus is removed/falls out ????
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I searched a long time for this, but I didn´t find a solution

Standby locking
I also "lock" my phone by sending it to standby with the power button. This seems to work realy good for me. The only problem is that the HD wakes up if someone is calling. So i often answer a call by accident. Does anyone know a way to deactivate the automatic wake up?
I tried the registry hack with autolocking but this doesn't work for calls either.

surfaczer said:
I also "lock" my phone by sending it to standby with the power button. This seems to work realy good for me. The only problem is that the HD wakes up if someone is calling. So i often answer a call by accident. Does anyone know a way to deactivate the automatic wake up?
I tried the registry hack with autolocking but this doesn't work for calls either.
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Have you tried HDTweak?

ScarySquirrel said:
Have you tried HDTweak?
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Please explain

device lock
gt112 said:
Hi folks
I'm back again with some more dumb questions (bear with me - I'm Irish).
On my old Nokia, I could lock the phone by pressing 2 keys and hey presto, phone now safe!
With the HD, things seem a bit complex. Firstly, there's power managenent that controls how long the back light stays on for and how long the phone stays on for before going into stand by.
Q1. Is standby not another form of locking ? If so why not just press th epower button whenever you want to lock the phone and be done with it ?
Then there is the built in locking software that comes with the app.
Q2. Whats the problem with this? (i.e. long pressing the end key and choosing 'Lock the device'; Why do we even need S2U2 ?
Then there's S2U2 itself. The settings page is long and complex.
Q3. Is there a S2U2 manual anywhere ? (to explain some of those ambiguous settings)
Finally, and here is my most important question...
Q4. Can I use my HD like I used to use my Noika - i.e. press a key or 2 to lock the goddam phone an just be done with it ?
As it is, when I want to use my phone, I have to press the power button to take it out of standby, and then I have to slide the S2U2 unlock switch. Its a lot of hassle just to make a phone call.
Is it me? Am I that stupid? What am I doing wrong ? What am I missing ?
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Hi try this small cab - cant remember where I got it from but it works!!
just install to device and then add into programs launch or start menu.
regards
jon

JPW said:
Hi try this small cab - cant remember where I got it from but it works!!
just install to device and then add into programs launch or start menu.
regards
jon
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You're Irish too, I presume?
The other option is you attached a very small cab.

OOOPS forgot cab
have edited post now
Jon

Should the device lock when I put the stylus in? I get the impression from this thread that it should but mine doesn't?

Lock all buttons

Well i just got an HD2 (love it btw) im successfully running Hyperdroid no problems what so ever . However i have a bug i need fixed , when the device goes into standby , ALL HARDWARE BUTTONS REWAKE THE SCREEN (excluding volume) is there a way to LOCK ALL HARDWARE BUTTONS EXCEPT for the volume up ? For instance , i reply to a text , press "end key" to suspend device , device is in standby and all buttons (green phone, home, menu, back, red end key) are DISABLED and the only way to wake the device up is by pressing the Volume Up key . I like this idea because there is no designated power button , and when the device is in my pocket , the buttons get pressed and it SERIOUSLY drains the power (i noticed in my logcat this was happening) and since the volume buttons are on the side they are less likely to be pressed . However, once volume button is pressed to wake the device i want the volume buttons to go back to normal . I hope this is possible .

Well, it's not exactly what you wanted.
But you could use Tasker and tell it to turn the screen off again if it's upside-down (in your pocket) and/or if something is in front of the proximity sensor(in your pocket/bag/purse). you could also specify it so that these events won't lock your phone again when it's awake for over 3 seconds or so
I could help you with this if you don't understand how to set it up.
This would partially solve your problem, but there is a small delay between recognizing the events and the action taken so it would stay on for about a second and then shut it off again.
Tell me what you think about it.

Maxp101 said:
Well, it's not exactly what you wanted.
But you could use Tasker and tell it to turn the screen off again if it's upside-down (in your pocket) and/or if something is in front of the proximity sensor(in your pocket/bag/purse). you could also specify it so that these events won't lock your phone again when it's awake for over 3 seconds or so
I could help you with this if you don't understand how to set it up.
This would partially solve your problem, but there is a small delay between recognizing the events and the action taken so it would stay on for about a second and then shut it off again.
Tell me what you think about it.
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I found a similar program . Forget what it was , i mean i guess that could work but its still not gonna keep the screen from coming on when the buttons get pressed . Which , with having front facing buttons , will happen a lot . I'll try the program and check my logcats for device wake. Also , how hard is it to develop in android ? ive written many C# programs for my computer and a couple simple ones ror Windows Mobile . Would i pick up android programing easily ?

Bump ? Really would like some INFO

Yet , ANOTHER bum smh -.- anybody ???

I have no idea to your actual question, but I would like to know the answer as well!

Hi there,
As far as I know programming is 10% grammatical and 90% knowledge of the vocabulary
If you know how to program, you should. Pick. It up easily.
You could follow some tutorials. On. YouTube to get yourself started, although. Most of them. Are really basic.
Start by googling for android sdk. And eclipse you'll need those programs to. Start programming
Sent from my Optimus 2X using xda premium

Maxp101 said:
Hi there,
As far as I know programming is 10% grammatical and 90% knowledge of the vocabulary
If you know how to program, you should. Pick. It up easily.
You could follow some tutorials. On. YouTube to get yourself started, although. Most of them. Are really basic.
Start by googling for android sdk. And eclipse you'll need those programs to. Start programming
Sent from my Optimus 2X using xda premium
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Hey thanks I've gotten started but the thing I wanna do in my original post is too deep for a simple program to do . Its deep in the kernel .
Sent from my HTC HD2 using Tapatalk

[Q] Touchscreen is not responding

Hi,
my HTC HD2s touchscreen isnt working for some days. It started with giving now response for some minutes, than hours, days and now doesnt give any response at all. The screen itself is working.
I installed a new rom (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1434860) and before I had the 2.7 version of this rom.
All buttons are working, but I read that touchscreen error may correlate with an error of the red button. The red button does respond and even hard pressing makes no difference.
I really don't know, what I'm supposed to do know. I really hope you can help me and would really appreciate it.
Thanks in advance.
P.S. sorry for potential grammar mistakes, but I'm no native english speaker.
Regards,
mdennis

Does the screen work right after you reboot, without you touching the end button in the meantime?