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Hey guys i am new to the tablet game not the phones however. I recently got my t.f. however i am trying to find a good enough reason to root other than ad-hoc teathering as well as o.c. i am still on 3.0 and would like the 3.1 cause i heard it is a lot smoother i have had mine for about a week today and i still have not recieved anyupadates not sure why. i hear everyone saying they just got it i am still in the dark, which is one of the reasons i am thinking to root to get 3.1. Can someone tell me the advantages to rooting transformer right now i don't see a whole lot other than o.c. adhoc tethering and that is about.
there are a lot of benefits to rooting your device. heres a quick list
1) lets you flash custom firmwares
these firmwares are usually faster than the stock ones and a lot more features and functionality
2) system-wide backups using nandroid
similar to a "system restore" it allows you to backup your entire firmware and be able to restore back to that particular day just in case something goes wrong
3) much more powerful apps
apps such as adfree, titanium backup, root explorer. all these are fantastic apps and they offer a lot of functionality. i wont go into the detail about that, just look them up in the market.
4) we dont have to wait for Asus
if theres something we dont like about the transformer, someone here will probably fix it. such as the annoying tap to click on the trackpad. if we didnt have root then we couldnt fix this.
those are just a few of the reasons why you should root. if you want a tutorial, i made a pretty comprehensive one here:
[Video] How To Root Your Asus EEE Pad Transformer
hope this helps
Thanks man not much different than phone just got 3.1 update does that chance anything. Is this root method reversible to 100 percent shock
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I assume that rooting will need to be re-done when one allows the TF accept an ASUS firmware update, correct?
Also, does upgrading the firmware wipe apps and require a reinstall of said apps?
Team,
I have whats probably a very basic question, but since I have 3 other tablets its hard to keep them all straight.
I bought the wife an NC, she sees the things I do in Android HC and likes what she sees, so I found the instructions for putting it on the card and bootnig.
SO FAR everything seems good, BUT she doesnt like having to swap out the card all the time (go figure)
I know that HC can be installed as the primary boot OS on the internal "drive"
I also believe that even after that, if she wanted to we could probably restore her back to out if the box, but my question is , can anyone point me to one or 2 places that might have a step by step walk through on those processes?
On my GTAB one of our devs has actually made a gtab for dummies site that walks you through several different FW functions, is there anything like that in the NC?
Even if the instructions are buried in a threaad I can do that, unfortunatly my work has picked up so much I dont have the time to read all the threads.
Personally I think the NC is probably the best value in the 7" market, and have referred many folks to them. My wife even wants to buy the boy one for thr 'book reading' function, I just have to figure out how to manipulate them 1st''any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
J
My suggestion: Drop HC. It is buggy, and slow. If you really want to have HC, flash this using ClockworkMod:
http://www.multiupload.com/71K84XF6BF
And then push this to /boot:
http://www.multiupload.com/3D9WSPUAUZ
Iking,
Thanks for that.
Now the other side of the question.
If she hates this, is there a documented method to restore it to out of the box?
I ask because on 2 of mine I know once I update past a certain point there is no going back.
Thanks
J
hello TO everybody. I am a owner of an transformer tf101 3gB70
Momently not rootable
I've post every day after the purchase of my asus tf b70 on the official asus site on facebook until they have banned me only because i have made them a few question about the locked bootloader and how to get root acces TO use some apps like titanium backup
So i invite you all users and non users of an tf B70 TO post on their site and other socialnetworks To release a tool TO get root on ouer tf b70 and invite them(ASUS) TO follow others that are providing devices with lower costs but are developer free!!
So one day we get root on the transformer too!
It can be a solution but I think it's not enough while if u are thinking about how many people bought transformer and how many people want to be able to root their device there is too much difference. Just for example from 800000 sold transformer maybe 2000-3000 wants to root it. The rest is very pleased with their stock rom. This is just what I think nothing more. From the other part why not can the manufacturers monitorize XDA like forums and even include scripts and other good things which can improve their device performance. Yeah it's like an ideal world of user-developer-manufacturer community which, I think, we will never see.
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Understandy your feeling and I've rooted all android phones I've had.but I think stock transformer works pretty good...
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Are all B70 non rootable? Because mines is B70KAS... and I used brk.rootkit.ww.v6.3 for root (and adding clockwork, busybox and superuser) and Clemsyn-Blades3.2OCver21 (with voodoo module) for overclock.
Everything worked perfect.
PD: Shipped with Android 3.1, and updated to 3.2 before rooting. WW Version.
mrmenta said:
Are all B70 non rootable? Because mines is B70KAS... and I used brk.rootkit.ww.v6.3 for root (and adding clockwork, busybox and superuser) and Clemsyn-Blades3.2OCver21 (with voodoo module) for overclock.
Everything worked perfect.
PD: Shipped with Android 3.1, and updated to 3.2 before rooting. WW Version.
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Asus change the SBK mid way in July so some early B7O are rootable.
I've rooted 2 android phones and another tablet (creative ziio) but to be honest I feel little need with the TF.
It has no real annoying stock apps and everything seems to be working ok.
I have a non rootable b70, but I hoppe devs will unlook it, its a matter of time...
What are the obvious advantages in rooting the tf101? Any new functionality?
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Tuborg68 said:
What are the obvious advantages in rooting the tf101? Any new functionality?
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With one word? Freedom!
You can install custom ROMs, remove system apps, you can overclock your CPU. Just a few things...
I've still swithering between this the Xoom, Playbook or just waiting for something new but I'd echo the comments about the stock ROM being really good, theres actually plenty of folk who use the Asus Widgets (weather, email) on their non asus tablets because they look really good!
I think the Transformer with the keyboard already supplies most of the functionality that some of the others need rooted for (USB connection for flashdrives/hard discs), however if I do get one I'd like to be able to root for the overclock and ability to use a 3G USB Modem,
If you find it ok to have your tab stock !
Try to use titanium backup or the stock browser ho is closing itself during typing until it forces to close
After a month of use asus finally decided to release an update
But if we got root the problem was resolved a long time ago in other custom rom on xda fo the transformer
I hope the one I have coming from newegg isn't the latest B70. I'm sure I would be satisfied for awhile with a stock TF, but I hack everything I buy when it comes to phones, tablets, and computers LOL
I'm. Scouring through my area to find a B60 not easy...
i just bought a B80, it was a new model number and everything, i knew i couldnt root it right now. im fine with that, this thing is very fast and performs very well.
I can wait the month or 2 it will take to hack the new key.
This is my first tablet and im happy i was patient enough to wait for something as good as this.
Very happy with my transformer no reason to root yet,
Currently Pinnacle 1.2 and have never been happier
i got a tf yesterday, even tho i new not ti get a b70, i ended up with 1, stock rom is awesome, imo, but the roms that the devs make on these forums are so much awesomer lol, looking forward to getting rooted and flashing revolver rom, ta
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I just got a B80 model as well and am quite happy with it. I can't wait for root though for overclocking and custom tweaks. Hopefully it's not too far down the road!
I have a B70 but i also cant root it. So i must wait with the stock rom (its quit nice) but i want root and i WANT a custom rom on it.. damn sh*t....
Forgive my ignorance, where do I find this B70?
I just bought my TF. I looked through the settings About and not seeing anything indicating the hardware version (which is what B70 refers to, right?). Where do I find this.
I'm not out to root my TF (yet), I plan on doing app development and so far have not needed any root privileges.
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I just bought my TF. I looked through the settings About and not seeing anything indicating the hardware version (which is what B70 refers to, right?). Where do I find this.
I'm not out to root my TF (yet), I plan on doing app development and so far have not needed any root privileges.
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Look for a sticker next to the power/dock connector on the tablet. It will have a serial number beginning with "B". So the second digit will indicate which revision you have.
For Nook Color you can run CM7 directly off an SD card withouth touching the internal emmc:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957
Has anyone tried to do that for the Nook Touch? It's an obvious thing to try and I couldn't find any reference to it when I searched the Nook Touch forum, so I assume it does not work, but I thought I should ask...
First of all nothing is impossible. But you see Nook is avaible on market since 4-5 months i think. And there wasn't any breakdown bigger than rooting it ;( mayby working market can be counted in but it still is just a small thing. So in my opinion we just don't have a expert involved/eknowledged enough (xboxexpert maybe) to make a update for you nook (2.3.4 even?).
The other problem is it doesn't have sense yet. Mayby android 4.0 will bring us some easier ways? I am not expert unfortunetly.
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First of all nothing is impossible. But you see Nook is avaible on market since 4-5 months i think. And there wasn't any breakdown bigger than rooting it ;( mayby working market can be counted in but it still is just a small thing. So in my opinion we just don't have a expert involved/eknowledged enough (xboxexpert maybe) to make a update for you nook (2.3.4 even?).
The other problem is it doesn't have sense yet. Mayby android 4.0 will bring us some easier ways? I am not expert unfortunetly.
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I guess I didn't make myself clear. The key reason why it's so easy and convenient to rule alternative ROM off sdcard on a Nook Color is because of NC's bootloader; by design it boots from any ROM off an sdcard, and only when that fails/not present would it go to emmc.
So what I'm really asking is: Does the Nook Touch have the same/similar bootloader? Unfortunately I don't have one so I can't try it, which is why I ask the question here...
Thanks!
I'm not sure at all but I guess that it has a similar bootloader as some tools like TouchNooter or Noogie start from sdcard
Yes tried it and posted about it here several months ago. It boots but without specific driver support doesn't get too far (no graphics). I even tried using the nook kernel for grins on cm7 and it only got a hair farther in the process.
Bottom line it needs drivers in the cm7 codebase to work. It should be a straightforward effort, however, one that has little roi for me personally.
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little roi for me personally
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Fair enough, I can see your point and thanks for the info.
Well, that is the situation now. We have some attention on the NookTouch at the moment. If we can get CM7 on there we've future proofed it a little. Just think of those other electronic devices from the past to compare with.
Is there going to come a point where a rooted NookTouch won't be able to run newer Android stuff? That's my only worry. It would be handy to be in line with other CM7 users. Sometimes something doesn't work. Not a major disappointment, but a bit of a bummer.
Couldn't find your post with the info you mention:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=93655130 ,unless it's buried in a reply somewhere?
I have no idea how the CM7 people get drivers for devices, whether they pull them out of stock ROMs or what I don't know... will have to search.
I don't get it, what do you expect to gain from CM7 on a Nook Touch?
This device has nothing but wifi and a fundamentally slow eInk display,.. there's no GSM, 3G, Bluetooth, Audio, GPS or Camera
While CM7 and other roms can make things run smoother on normal devices with an LCD-type screen, this won't help the Nook Touch with it's eInk screen at all.
All those fancy themes, with transparency and cool animations will never ever work properly on this eInk display, it cannot be solved trough clever programming.
Are there things in NST with its 2.1 that doesn't work? What does 2.3 offer that is of any use to the NST? The only thing I can think of would be the numeric screen lock..
The few developers that are showing interest in the NST are much better off putting their skills into writing tools and apps specialized for the NST and its eInk.
Hell, for starters, give me a web browser that actually supports pagination instead of scrolling
The only reason I'd be interested in upgrading the OS to 2.2 + would be the ability to use apps like apptosd. No matter how I tried I've been unable to get linktosd to work for the Nook.
Good screen locking is a must for people who may have unwanted people fidgeting on your ereader, and I do agree regarding the browser too. And maybe a good email program that makes the email fit on its width (k9 is the best so far, but usually emails stretches sideways...
ros87 said:
I don't get it, what do you expect to gain from CM7 on a Nook Touch?
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Among other things: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1105497
cm7 means for me future proofing, easier to develop new things because we're all on the same page.
I think if it doesn't happen in 5 years time the nook'll be on the shelf obselete because no new software is made for 2.1 devices anymore.
When i get back from holiday i'll try to duplicate what someone did before and host an image of cm7 that can be written to sd with logging enabled to show what drivers are needed. It's a good point that devs who'd normally work on cm could be doing better things like partial screen updates.
If more android eink devices come out there will be more wieght to the cause. Personally what i really want is an eink android phone...
jago25_98 said:
cm7 means for me future proofing, easier to develop new things because we're all on the same page.
I think if it doesn't happen in 5 years time the nook'll be on the shelf obselete because no new software is made for 2.1 devices anymore.
When i get back from holiday i'll try to duplicate what someone did before and host an image of cm7 that can be written to sd with logging enabled to show what drivers are needed. It's a good point that devs who'd normally work on cm could be doing better things like partial screen updates.
If more android eink devices come out there will be more wieght to the cause. Personally what i really want is an eink android phone...
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I plan on replacing my NST long before 5 years have passed. For one, the battery will be dead by then
There's a new Pearl eInk player on the block, Sony PRS-T1, so yes, there are more and there will be more Android eInks
don't get me wrong, if an android phone with eink comes out i'll drop the nook in a flash. But even so, having cm7 is useful. I don't like throwing things away. Also, theres the resell value. it makes a difference when selling it down the line. I'd rather have something useful even if it's not me personally benfitting from it.
I don't like that whole, i'll buy something new again, i enjoy the upgrade cycle trap.
I enjoy getting new toys but i also like things that last, and the latter makes more sense.
I haven't done much dev before but i think i'll give a go with this, checking out that kernel hacking thread and looking for ways to log the boot. If nothing else it's good fun
Personally, I do not think CM7 would be the best for Nook. I think this rom is too much "phone related" which would result it big battery consumption. Beside the kernel/rom update, could you name 3 things from CM7 missing on nook STR?
Well built in tablet ease-of-case?
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Personally, I do not think CM7 would be the best for Nook. I think this rom is too much "phone related" which would result it big battery consumption. Beside the kernel/rom update, could you name 3 things from CM7 missing on nook STR?
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True, a CM7 port would need customising to remove the phone stuff. Personally I removed the phone and dialler apks from my rooted Nook. They run on a rooted Nook just the same as a CM7 port would.
1) Any apk that needs a newer version of android. I did find something the other day like this but I can't remember what it was.
2) Being on the same page as other CM7 mods; you can port ideas more easily, whereas the knowledge for NookTouch is a very small community
3) I think it could become a dominent thing. Less confusions with NookColor and the B&N software. More resources for help.
4) The B&N software could cause unforeseen problems down the road with new software of the future. Who knows, there could be a new killer app that clashes with the B&N software and B&N do nothing to fix it, for example.
^ Note that few of the reasons are about what functionality currently available. I've seen it plenty of times; buy new tech, tech is perfectly fine, phone becomes obselete because of the software and no documentation, have to buy a new device even though there's nothing wrong phyically with the old one (software hassle only). For all we know, a new standard for ebooks could come out next year, B&N choose not to support it and the only software around to read it is only available for Froyo. Get me?
You have a point. I'm lucky enough to blow money on the upgrade cycle, why do I care about other people after it gets sent recycling to Africa? I don't know, it seems like a simple bit of work. I agree that effort shouldn't be redirected away from other more important efforts.
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+5) We could move the `USB Mode` notifier more easily so the Nook is still usable while charging.
+6) We can more easily modify WiFi ability to connect to peer-to-peer networks rather than just access points. This means no need to carry a MiFi portable access point in order to use TetherGPS. With stock Nook rom the Nook only sees accesspoints.
I think lets add:
1) Android 4.0 supports both tabs and phones, and your Nook it honestly more like a tablet that a phone, and really many, many, MANY apps will be compatible only with 4.0 (IMO only)
2) We need somebody to write that system right?
I would go more for a good customization ROM oriented to an eInk Android device... The latest apps for tablets will be all LCD oriented, and it would be much more useful a custom android that removes all animations, allows correct paging and lateral buttons to work propperly, etc...
Looking forward to an ICS port on NST!
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I think lets add:
1) Android 4.0 supports both tabs and phones, and your Nook it honestly more like a tablet that a phone, and really many, many, MANY apps will be compatible only with 4.0 (IMO only)
2) We need somebody to write that system right?
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I'm pretty sure the Nook doesn't have enough resources/power to run 4.0, and probably not even 3. Then again, I'm new to android and tablets and rooting, so I might be wrong.
Like the tittle says... I love customizing everything and making it work my way... but after reading page after page to root my device, I don't find it worth it.
So why did you want to root mainly to benefit from and not just to play with a new toy?
All I have is go launcher on mine and I am done... what else do I really need to gain more from my kindle by rooting?
Why I rooted
I chose to root and install a custom rom. I loved the name ICS and since I read about it some time last year I wanted to try it out. The Kindle gave the best device to try it out on a small budget. Me knowing if I messed it up I would be upset with myself but I could have lived with it. There is a lot you can do after rooting. You can install what ever app you want. Install the market and get out of Amazon slow apps that just don't do the device justices. With adb services running you dont even have to copy apk file over just install it as root. I have tried 4 different ROMS for the kindle and CM9 just has to be about my favorite. I know there are a few bugs left to work out, but over all it is great. If you need help installing TWRP to install CM9 let me know I wrote my own simple how to for myself.
Thanks,
JohninLex
There are a lot of benefits to rooting. However, my main reason was to install custom roms (using CM7). I never intended to use this as an Amazon portal from day one.
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There are many reasons to root. Rooting is very easy. The KindleFireUtility does everything for you, just be sure to read the thread to avoid some of the problems people ran into. You can keep the basic e-reader functionality with the Kindle app from the Android Market but customize the experience a lot more than what GoLauncher offers. Amazon gave us a pretty poor stock ROM in the sense that it's very limited. I like having full control over my devices and the user-developed ROMs here are really great
Android Market access, popular apps that require root (Titanium Backup, Droid Wall, the Swype beta, etc), installing custom ROMs based on newer, better Android versions with performance tweaks, and soon with luck and a lot of developer sweat, USB OTG. Also it makes you more attractive to the opposite sex.
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I had this same thought when I first got my Fire. I even put Go Launcher on it and thought it would have been good enough, until I got frustrated with the lack of apps in the Amazon Appstore. I never rooted anything so I was a little nervous. After doing a lot of research I decided to give it a try. I also wanted to experience ICS and you can only do that by installing custom ROMs. I feel like I have unlocked so many possibilities for my Fire by rooting it and I am happy I did it.
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I got frustrated having go launcher but not being able to readily access the Android market for widgets. I tried CM9 and its awesome but I got the kindle for YouTube and Netflix so I can't leave CM9 on there for to long before I revert back to stock or CM7.
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kindlefireuser said:
Like the tittle says... I love customizing everything and making it work my way... but after reading page after page to root my device, I don't find it worth it.
So why did you want to root mainly to benefit from and not just to play with a new toy?
All I have is go launcher on mine and I am done... what else do I really need to gain more from my kindle by rooting?
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You answered it in the second sentence of your question:
"I love customizing everything and making it work my way..."
There's a reason the new root market (fire place) exists...
Honestly, after just going through the process, access to Google Play is probably one of the weakest reasons for rooting. Outside of getting the Google developed apps such as Google+, Gmail, Drive, Sync Framkework...etc...the Market is even weaker than the Amazon App Store due to Google segregating you to a very small amount of apps because of incompatibility issues.
Having compatible gapps provided through snazzy utilities such as KFU is pretty sweet, though.
I have no plans of flashing a custom ROM because it's not solely my device. I am also a Prime member, so the Amazon sandbox is beneficial. I did however root, simply because I am a geek and couldn't resist the temptation to try it out and see what benefits it provides.
If anything, it is nice to be able to explore root with ES File Explorer.
I have rooted every android device that I have ever owned (G1, G2X, NX700p and the Kindle Fire). Mostly for the "new toy" aspect. I love flashing new ROMs and interfaces when I get bored with one. Play store is nice to have (along with other gapps).
Rooted my Kindle Fire within 2 hours of opening the box (got stuck in fastboot and thought I bricked it, good times). I am not a fan of the Kindle Launcher (or even Silk browser, really).
So yeah, new toy to play with for a small fee (rooting is free but can take time and effort) is my main reason.
Plus it makes me more attractive to the opposite sex =]
I've rooted and changed the roms on all of my previous phones but I haven't had the itch to root and rom the Fire. I personally like it the way it is stock. Simple to use and does what I need it to do(web browsing, reading, and media). I just sideload the apps that I can't find in the Amazon App store. Maybe one day I'll root and rom it.
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I thought you didn't have to root to install custom roms.
I rooted first to get the Play Store. Then I installed custom roms after I got bored of using gingerbread.
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I've rooted and changed the roms on all of my previous phones but I haven't had the itch to root and rom the Fire. I personally like it the way it is stock. Simple to use and does what I need it to do(web browsing, reading, and media). I just sideload the apps that I can't find in the Amazon App store. Maybe one day I'll root and rom it.
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Same boat here. I actually haven't rooted my Amaze either as I realize as much fun rooting and flashing was, IMO stock does just enough...
I like you just sideload apps and good to go.
I also have Prime and use their video services more than Netflix.
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There's few reasons why I have rooted and, most important - installeld custom ROM (Energy CM9 Kang) on my Kindle:
1) Need for Google Play App store (I am in Europe and for me all the US based services does'nt work)
2) On/of button on the bottom. I like to us emy Kindle flipped to keep the button and earphones plug on top, but when screen is locked i get the lock screen with the password keyboard flipped on the stock OS.
3) Was unable to transfer apps from the app to the files partition. Flashing custom ROM fixed this.
4) Having ICS on a Kindle was so tempting... and soooo worth it.
Mostly for adblock and to get off the stock ROM which isn't so great if you just want a tablet without any restrictions. I also had no intentions of using this how Amazon originally meant people to use it.
I also have a problem with a manufacturer telling me i can't do something with my own device.
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I chose to root and install a custom rom.
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Yup. Same hereI just rooted yesterday to install CM9 (some version of it). It was very simple. Now I can have Google Maps, Google Voice, and Gmail on it as well as Path (keep in mind that the kindle fire does not have a gps or a microphone).
Just a Couple reasons to start with...
The first one is, I like security and backups, so I use TWRP so I can back up my apps and data.
Second, any Android device can collect a SERIOUS amount of memory-hogging cache, so I use Cache-Mate to clear it all.
Third, I personally hate the default status bar, so I currently have CM7 on it with a smaller design.
Fourth, I also dont like the keyboard, so I replaced it with this nice split keyboard.
Fifth, I like making my device run faster, so I overclock when im using it and underclock when im not.
Sixth, volume adjusting requires going through menus, so i use Volume Control to change it easily. (Does this require root?)
Thats about it
one word answer: ICS