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The title of the thread is just to get all you fine people steaming in here to tell me off. But now your here by your own free will...
I've been a long time browser of these forums and recently a more active member. I used to be a very amateur coder when I was yonger and know to a small extent the hard work you guys put into these roms, so seriously to everyone congratulations on some amazing efforts.
I did want to address the reason topic titles such as the one I chose here crop up however. When I had a diamond before my HD2 there were just a few good roms to choose from and I soon settled down and chose one after trying them out. A few months back I started this same process with my HD2 but found every ROM I flashed to have a few bugs which annoyed me in day to day use, and I eventually went back to stock. Since then I havn't really tried again.
Today I have again been looking at perhaps flashing to a cooked ROM and in the beginning of these efforts I tried out the search term "best HD2 ROM". The threads that resulted were obviously very short and the authors told off for being lazy and discrediting the great works of all the chefs here. But the very good point is made that there are ALOT of ROM's for the HD2, and whilst it may only take 5 mnins to flash a ROM it takes hours, if not days, to find out if it suited to you. With the risk of losing personal info on each flash and having to reconfigure your apps each time this can be a very tedious process.
I'm basically wondering if there is any way to have a thread that can provide a way of rating the advantages and disadvantages of each ROM without having to wade through topics with hundreds of pages of mostly useless posts. It just so daunting with all these ROM's that many people may never even start.
I am just now thinking of flexing my (somewhat out of date) webmastering ability to create a "ROM Review" website - good idea?
What are people's thoughts?
p.s. This is probably also in the wrong section of the forum... just clicked "new topic" where I was browsing without thinking where it should go, please move if appropriate, thanks.
I completely agree with your idea to open this thread.
Finally we have someone who wants to put it to rights. Because every day we have new ROM or several ROM's, and every time flashing and soft re-installation takes a lot of time... and after all that you understand that "this ROM is not really what you wanted to be"...
Go on with your idea.. and I think - this section is the right place for your thread.
you got my vote
Good to see I'm not alone here, any feedback is much appriciated, even if its just a +1
Agreed, Sir.
This was taken from another thread about a similar question
"I also see no point to a list of pro's or cons of any particular ROM as most are built for the same thing, speed and stability. The only real differences you are going to see are what programs the person has loaded."
If this is indeed the case. then a list of the roms with the space taken up by the rom on the phone. the apps installed and how quick, stable each one would be must surely be a good idea?
I truly hope you can follow through with your idea.
I think there is no such thing as "the" best ROM.
Each user has different preferences, especially WinMo smartphones are
rarely one the same like another: Included software, tweaks, mods, themes, designs.
The possibilities are endless.
Also, an earlier thread here at the HD2 forum about speed (with benchmarks
as neutral as possible) ended up in unfriendly discussions (which is a mild
term to describe what happened).
An HD2 is so extremely fast that I seriously doubt that the "average" user
can tell a big difference between different ROMs. Sometimes, a buggy ROM
may be obviously slower, but in the average case, the difference will just
not really be felt, but only perceived, sometimes only imagined.
I think that it is part of this forum that there is no rating of the available
ROMs. If you watch the forum, you can easily find out which ROMs seem to
have more acceptance and therefore more fans - and if you check the ROM
description and screenshots of the chef, you can easily find out if the ROM
is something you might like.
Just to finish: How exactly does a ROM qualify as "the best"? Speed? Come
on... Software which comes with it? Come on, again...
Imho, it all ends up in optical mods and tweaks plus some extremely basic
software which is really a must for everybody. If you would ask me what
this could be, I cannot give you any name because WinMo and Manila are
on most ROMs anyway...
I couldn't agree more Mega. Very brave of you to start this thread ; )
I was a bit of a flashaholic with both my Elf and my Raphael, but I still haven't flashed anything to my Leo because it's so hard to figure out exactly what I'm going to get. Apart from the features of each ROM, it's hard to get an idea of the things that might be missing from each. Like, have the original bugs been fixed? Stuff like the audio booster turning off, AAC files being mis-sorted in the audio player, volume keys still active when the screen is off and incremental volume control or even the relative volume between headphones and phone speaker. I just can't be bothered to start flashing a million ROMs to find out. That's not laziness by the way, honest! I'm sure I'll get over it and start flashing soon ; )
tictac0566 said:
I think there is no such thing as "the" best ROM.
Each user has different preferences, especially WinMo smartphones are
rarely one the same like another: Included software, tweaks, mods, themes, designs.
The possibilities are endless.
Also, an earlier thread here at the HD2 forum about speed (with benchmarks
as neutral as possible) ended up in unfriendly discussions (which is a mild
term to describe what happened).
An HD2 is so extremely fast that I seriously doubt that the "average" user
can tell a big difference between different ROMs. Sometimes, a buggy ROM
may be obviously slower, but in the average case, the difference will just
not really be felt, but only perceived, sometimes only imagined.
I think that it is part of this forum that there is no rating of the available
ROMs. If you watch the forum, you can easily find out which ROMs seem to
have more acceptance and therefore more fans - and if you check the ROM
description and screenshots of the chef, you can easily find out if the ROM
is something you might like.
Just to finish: How exactly does a ROM qualify as "the best"? Speed? Come
on... Software which comes with it? Come on, again...
Imho, it all ends up in optical mods and tweaks plus some extremely basic
software which is really a must for everybody. If you would ask me what
this could be, I cannot give you any name because WinMo and Manila are
on most ROMs anyway...
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I agree, how would one rate the BEST? Well to be honest you cant really as each person has there own needs and wants in a rom. What might be an Ideal rom for me might not be the best rom for you. I could rate a rom at 10 and you might give it a 2, then it turns into a bashing session and that can not be allowed. The rating system has been brought up many times before and each time it comes to the same end. There will never be an accurate way to tell the best rom. I am not trying to be harsh here but threads like this are beating a dead horse.
After speaking with the OP I have decided to reopen this thread. On the condition that this is "NOT" a best rom thread. This thread will be to help those that are new to ROM flashing. I will be keeping an eye on this thread and if it turn into a Best rom or bashing thread I will reclose it for good. I understand that sense the release of the HD 2 that alot of people are new to WM and with the available options in the rom thread it can be confusing. I am also moving this thread to the General Section as it is not Rom development. To all the new guys welcome.
Just wanna say thanks to Zelendal, the topic title originally wasn't constructive.
As we all know from doing a little reading about the ROM's, each one can be individually suited to different people, it like argument about which is the best smart phone or computer platform. So the kind of discussionj I was trying to provoke was about the best way to help out newcomers decide which ROM would indeed be best suited to them.
As I posted before I have been pondering making a seperate website that would allow some organisation of peoples opinions on the ROM's and I am interested as to how much support there would be amongst the community, I am also interested as to how the Cook's themselves would see such an project, providing it was done right.
sike222 said:
This was taken from another thread about a similar question
"I also see no point to a list of pro's or cons of any particular ROM as most are built for the same thing, speed and stability. The only real differences you are going to see are what programs the person has loaded."
If this is indeed the case. then a list of the roms with the space taken up by the rom on the phone. the apps installed and how quick, stable each one would be must surely be a good idea?
I truly hope you can follow through with your idea.
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You quote me but you leave out an important part. The problem with making a list is that ROMs change. What might have been an issue in one build might be working just fine in the next. Keeping up with these changes and trying to keep on top of a list would be a nightmare. Also this mystical list you are looking for is usually on one of the first few post of every ROM thread. Most good cooks will list all these things that you are looking for. Only way to tell if a ROM will fit your needs is to try it. Every bodies idea of a good ROM is different. What one person might see as a con another sees as a pro. Personal opinion is a ***** and unfortunately everybody has a different one.
Good luck but I don't see a list being started or maintained for very long. Nor do I see this thread going anywhere productive.
Will Badger -
I don't think anyone is dis-agreeing that each ROM is suited individually to different people. Each cook makes his ROM how he wants it and if you share those wants with that cook you a likly to enjoy his ROM. That doesn't make it any easier to find what ROM is indeed suited to you, and as a newbe it can be extremely daunting, there are 30 odd cooks for the HD2, thats ALOT of time spent flashing and tring out ROM's.
Having said that I have been pointed towards
http://www.xdaroms.com/Default.aspx
Which is more or less everything I had in mind for a ROM information site, so its safe to say I wont be needing to build another. Iv'e been on this forum for a few months now and have not seen this site, somthing like this would need the direct support of Cooks asking people to visit in their ROM threads to submit reviews of their ROM.
Personally if that could happen I think it would be great and a fantastic resourse for newbes but I know there are alot of differing opinions on here, and perhaps its somthing the chefs would have second thoughts about.
Cool nice to know you found what you were looking for. I still find it easier to just read the actual thread for the info I'm looking for. Going over that page quickly I see no information stating whether the any of the HD2 ROMs are T-mobile compatible. You can flash a standard HD2 ROM onto the newer T-Mo HD2 since they use different processor.
i hadn't come across that site either, lol... but looking at this thread i think the guy's pretty keen to make the site useful. see here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=658641
there's also another thread in the ROM section that might be helpful... i'm sure jaimeeee would appreciate any input and help you wanna give
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=683743
Hi,
Thanks for the extra info, whilst the site I posted does seem to be more or less what I was thinking of doing myself it simply doesnt have the activity require to truely make it useful to anyone. It needs the support of the Forum, especially the Cooks if its going to succeed. I keep meaning to conatct the owner of th site to discuss how to push traffic onto the site but I got all caught up making a skin recently.
Hopefully we can make somthing of this!
Dear Friend Thank you for lookinf into my question.
I have an HD2 from sometime now and thanks to the dev's on XDA for android and windows i am able to continue using my phone and liking it everyday
My question is: since i am set that android is better than winmo at least for me and i am using it permanently. If i buy an android phone LIKE Desire HD or Desire, will i be able to change the roms like my touch 4G or any other rom build.
or i will be bound to specific roms and themes for it.
i like to test everything i could and enjoy trying new systems, which i am doing now on my HTC HD2. But even with the stability of android roms nowadays i think the performance will be better if it is a native android phone.
Opinions are mostly appreciated
I'm no expert in either of those phones, but almost every Android phone has a pretty active dev'ing scene. It's not that much effort to switch roms on a native Android phone, but certainly more than with an HD2.
The variety of roms will also be less I think, coming from an HTC magic the abundance of choice here quite shocked me.
You can find the answer to this exciting question, and more, by reading the forums for other phones.
Well i dont suppose .
All the HD2 build out here have custom kernels and other tweaks which have been modified according to its hardware and devices specification.
But you can surely port it to your device. MEaning you will have to modify and tweak the builds accordingly.
I aint sure though
johncmolyneux said:
You can find the answer to this exciting question, and more, by reading the forums for other phones.
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Thanks for looking into the subject, but, i tried before asking and i could not get the proper answer for it, i found some things that was not clear to me maybe since i am not a user for that specific device. Thats why i asked, so that someone who has enough knowledge about it could help with the info.
Thanks for your effort.
rapaholic999 said:
Well i dont suppose .
All the HD2 build out here have custom kernels and other tweaks which have been modified according to its hardware and devices specification.
But you can surely port it to your device. MEaning you will have to modify and tweak the builds accordingly.
I aint sure though
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Thanks for the info, i think you might be right about the kernels and required mods. that did shed a little light about the answer.
Thanks again for your effort
nicefellow said:
Thanks for looking into the subject, but, i tried before asking and i could not get the proper answer for it, i found some things that was not clear to me maybe since i am not a user for that specific device. Thats why i asked, so that someone who has enough knowledge about it could help with the info.
Thanks for your effort.
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Read and ask in these forums...
Desire - http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=594
Desire HD - http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=754
You're asking in the HD2 forum if there are ROMs available for other phones? Sorry, but that's just a waste of everyone's time (yours in particular!) Go to the relevant forums and do lots of reading in them before asking any questions, but ask them in THE RIGHT PLACE.
Oh yeah...
Thanks for your effort.
Hi everyone
I got my HTC HD2 and it had WinMob,I ordered it last week so i have being doing my homework and im not a complete noob
While i was waiting for it to arrive i was playing around with an Android Phone,I really like the interface and app store and have decided to switch.
I will be using the NAND method and have read over all the guides but theres a few things i need help with,
The 1st is prob a total noob question so forgive me
(1)My radio version is r 2 06 51 07 so from what i can gather i should be ok using this? The only reason i ask is in case this was an update that HTC applied to stop people changing the OS
(2)When choosing a stable ROM will ii have all the features i have with WinMob(Flash,Camera,Wifi,Bluetooth etc)
I have read a lot of threads and from what i gather some roms will have all these features while others are still being updated
(3)
WHich ROM version to use?
Now from looking around the threads i understand this is like "Walking in to a bar and asking 10 guys which beer to drink" But to be honest im looking for a stable Rom that will have all the features,Basically a noob rom,Im not really looking for a ROM that will give me a lot more features than WinMob
After a while when im more confident i will start changing roms and reporting
bugs to help the developers here
(4) Suggested Donation to the developer of the ROM
Developers put countless hours in to developing these roms are are nice enough to give it to us for free and are happy with a thank you
I think its only fair to make a donation,However what amount would be suggested,
I have used the search function and have found a lot of the answers i was going to ask but i cant seem to find the answers to the above questions,
If they have being asked before ghen please tell me the keywords to search,I know how busy people are on this site and dont want to be wasting there time
Thank You in Advance
(1) I'm not sure but i believe only 2.xx.50 radio's were supported by Android/MAGLDR/CLK
Try this thread, i don't know if it also applies to T-Mobile US or Telstra versions.
Be sure to have HardSPL installed on your device, otherwise you can't install the radio.
2.15.50.14 is the most commonly used radio.
(2) Android development for the HD2 has been going for ages now and it's practically an android native device nowadays with all drivers present and working.
Although there are some modifications needed to fully support Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich (almost everything is working, but the camera drivers won't record video and there where some issues with data drops) but allot of people are working on it.
(3)For starters i would suggest Hyperdroid, it should be fast and stable.
If you're becoming anxious for more fiddling around and trying to get every little bit of power available in your HD2 then try Dorimanx's ROM.
(4) That's personal, if you don't like it a bit then don't donate. If you think it has completely wiped the urge/need to buy yourself a new phone then you could donate a nice sum of money. Between 5 and a 100 dollars.
Hope i've been of help.
Thank You
I was wrong about the radio version and im trying to change that at the moment,Im having a few problems with the syncing but im looking around the threads and think i know what the problem is.
Il look in to those ROMS you suggested.
Thank you for the help
Hello, I m using htc leo:hd2, and its now converted to android, but the problem is about phone is showing my phone is htc bravo android v.2.2.1. Please guide me to find a suitable ROM for my phone... and how can i get it?
There is a Android HD2 NAND development section you know.
try LOOKING there
its not hard you know, looking
try this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25781675#post25781675
I think by now, we are tired of seeing the exact same thread pop up over and over again.. A simple google search of "best android rom" would result in a plethora of hits that would have solved your problem faster than making a new, but redundant thread.. One size does not fit all, and you will have to try out various roms before you find one that you like..
Thanks a lot
adil1508 said:
There is a Android HD2 NAND development section you know.
try LOOKING there
its not hard you know, looking
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Thanks a lot for ur support
trazzaque said:
Thanks a lot for ur support
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Your very welcome
Sent from my HTC HD2 using xda app-developers app
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1795608
This one has been really good for me.
look for one of the miui roms
Welcome to forums. I'll give you a few brief tips on what I've learned over the last six months about android, hd2, and android.
With a typical nand install, the bootable system is installed on your internal nand, irrespective of your sd-card being present. Some may relate to the following comparison to a microsoft windows based system: your nand is like your internal hard drive "master" that contains your "C:" drive.
Your system folder on your nand has files specific to your device as required for it to boot and run properly. To access the market (google play) as well as have various hardware functionality, there is a file "build.prop" that is a small file with a text list of various descriptors. Being that the hd2 was not shipped with android, some of these descriptors name other devices as opposed to the actual device. In this case the "leo" or hd2 is using a ported version of android from a "bravo" or desire HD. So your system isn't malfunctioning describing another device name, rather, it could be looked at as "masquerading" as another device. I'm certain that is a severe dumbing-down of the technical details, but it's been helpful for some to look at it that way.
As for xda, I hope you spend an enormous time reading and not posting, as I have done all year. I have not posted at all and have literally read damn near every single post in the hd2 section and many more useful posts in other sections. After over six months and countless hours experimenting/flashing/customizing/etc on my own I am beginning to post now, attempting to contribute a bit in the forums that aren't still restricted for me because I feel comfortable enough to begin working towards contributing my input in the developer forums.
Most forums online have a similar attitude towards the plethora of posts like this, which bluntly request a quick answer for what is best determined through spending time reading and researching.
Hopefully you read the above and didn't skip to the end here where I wholeheartedly recommend the xylograph paranoid android ics rom. Cheers, and best of luck getting this amazing phone to fight well.
Amen to that. Nonetheless for starters go soft on your first rom get the CM7 of tyween. It's light and works well. But it's your choice. Indeed, look at me, just joined yesterday spent also almost six months reading the posts and relevant dev threads. Why am I posting, need it now to be able to complete my ten......
I can say for myself only. By my opinion, AOKP has best combination of settings and tweaks which really make life easier. Battery life and speed of this rom are very very good. But unfortunately this rom was not very stable for me, I experienced hot reboots regularly.
So I switched back to NexusHD2. It has comparable battery life and speed, but less tweaking possibilities. Stability of this rom has always been out of question for me. It is solid rock.
TyphooN CyanogenMod ROM was my first rom on HD2 and I have only positive impressions of it. Switched to ICS just because this phone let me do that. Prefer newer versions when possible.
There are so many choices and I am a bit overwhelmed on what I should use. I have the Note 3 SM-N900W8 version, this phone is for my dad. I just want a simple android environment that would be Google certified(if that's a thing) so he can use apps that do not like root like Netflix. I was hoping something that is similar to base android 6 or later, I have no idea which roms would work that would be simple to use. I was hoping something like what I would use on my Nexus 6p called Pure Nexus, but obviously, it's for that phone only but would have been perfect. The current one he uses is always giving him trouble when updating apps with security options that he never has any idea what to do, so I get stuck having to do it for him. Sorry that I am all over the place with this post, but hopefully someone understands and knows what would be good. Thanks
See multiple identical what rom best rom posts .
ROM descriptions are posted .
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/development
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/orig-development
I would suggest if its for somebody else and you don't know what you are doing/ cannot read rom descriptions then stick with stock rom .
Yes I am very aware of those pages, I was just hoping from someones experience, if anyone has come across something similar to Pure Nexus. I know how to install and all that stuff. Starting to feel it was a mistake to post this thread...
nenitosoyyo said:
Yes I am very aware of those pages, I was just hoping from someones experience, if anyone has come across something similar to Pure Nexus. I know how to install and all that stuff. Starting to feel it was a mistake to post this thread...
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It is hard to say what your need for a rom are. Every one uses there devices diffrently. What works great for me might not be good for you. And viseversa. There are never stupid or dumb questions. Even though it has been asked many times over. Best advice is to search and read and try each of them to see what fits your needs.
Btw i have at&t so I am limited on what roms I can use as I have a locked bootloader.
TheMadScientist said:
It is hard to say what your need for a rom are. Every one uses there devices diffrently. What works great for me might not be good for you. And viseversa. There are never stupid or dumb questions. Even though it has been asked many times over. Best advice is to search and read and try each of them to see what fits your needs.
Btw i have at&t so I am limited on what roms I can use as I have a locked bootloader.
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Thanks for the advice, I am researching over what is available and taking my time to make sure I choose the right one. Thanks again.