I have been trying to make sure I take all the correct steps before attempting a root. Some of the software references in the forum have me confused. If someone could help me with these I would very much appreciate it.
Here is a quote from the Icey Faux/Honeylicous thread by the OP:
kjy2010 said:
Hey bro don't you use the backup feature on HC? I format and re-install at least a few times a week, and google reinstalls all my apps in about ten minutes tops.
Nothing personal, I just don't get some peoples aversion to doing a proper wipe and format between installs. It's not like you lose any of your photos, music, or videos even when following the instructions in the OP.
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1) What is the difference between the android market and the google "app store" that I keep seeing people refer too?
a) what is the reference to "HC" in this quote?
- I have purchased apps from the android market that I would like to keep. I followed some references in other threads and got the Titanium Backup (free version) in hopes that I can backup the entire tablet. Is this what I would use to keep my apps/data and bring it back to the tablet after rooting?
2) I also got the Acer Recovery app. This looks as though it is used to bring the tablet back to stock form. Is that correct?
3) Is the term "root" in reference to gaining root permissions/access to the tablet, and nothing else? (I was under the impression that it was the installation of a ROM)
4) I have 3.2.1 on my tablet. It looks as though at this point in time, the only way I can root is to bring it back to at least 3.2 ot less (reference to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1276227&page=11)
5) Any tips on what I should download before the root so that I can keep a backup of the original setup and all of the apps I have purchased?
Thank you for anything you can give.
Ryan
YeeP said:
I have been trying to make sure I take all the correct steps before attempting a root. Some of the software references in the forum have me confused. If someone could help me with these I would very much appreciate it.
Here is a quote from the Icey Faux/Honeylicous thread by the OP:
1) What is the difference between the android market and the google "app store" that I keep seeing people refer too?
a) what is the reference to "HC" in this quote?
- I have purchased apps from the android market that I would like to keep. I followed some references in other threads and got the Titanium Backup (free version) in hopes that I can backup the entire tablet. Is this what I would use to keep my apps/data and bring it back to the tablet after rooting?
2) I also got the Acer Recovery app. This looks as though it is used to bring the tablet back to stock form. Is that correct?
3) Is the term "root" in reference to gaining root permissions/access to the tablet, and nothing else? (I was under the impression that it was the installation of a ROM)
4) I have 3.2.1 on my tablet. It looks as though at this point in time, the only way I can root is to bring it back to at least 3.2 ot less (reference to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1276227&page=11)
5) Any tips on what I should download before the root so that I can keep a backup of the original setup and all of the apps I have purchased?
Thank you for anything you can give.
Ryan
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Ryan,
HC=Honeycomb (the version of Android that is currently on your tab).
No difference, in the name for market, some people just use a different term.
2. No it doesn't. It will install CWM which will make a backup of your current ROM which you can flash to go back to original.
3. Root allows you to install CWM which will in turn allow you to flash custom ROMs.
4. Yes you will need to downgrade first, make certain you have everything you need already downloaded and on your external SD card.
5. Read, READ, READ, READ, take notes, and follow instructions to the letter. We certainly don't need another "help, I bricked my tab" thread lol
1) No difference, Google Market/App Store yada yada yada.
a) HC = Honey Comb, it is Googles internal name for their OS from versions 3.x
- If you go to Settings - Privacy, put a check in the boxes for "Back up my data" and "Automatic restore". Doing this alone has been enough for Google to automatically re-install about 99% of my apps.
2) Acer Recovery makes it easier to install the various Recovery images. It does not alone help you get back to "bone stock", but it at least will re-install the stock Recovery image if and when you're ready to go back to the stock ROM.
3) Root is getting root access to the device, which is generally needed to install custom ROMs, so I could see the confusion.
4) Almost right, you'll need to bring it back to 3.0.1 first. Be sure to have already downloaded and installed at least Acer Recovery and IconiaRoot before downgrading, as the Market is flakey as heck when you downgrade to 3.0.1. I followed method 2 in that thread and had 0 issues.
5) Not needed, see my info after 1,a).
kjy2010 said:
Ryan,
HC=Honeycomb (the version of Android that is currently on your tab).
No difference, in the name for market, some people just use a different term.
2. No it doesn't. It will install CWM which will make a backup of your current ROM which you can flash to go back to original.
3. Root allows you to install CWM which will in turn allow you to flash custom ROMs.
4. Yes you will need to downgrade first, make certain you have everything you need already downloaded and on your external SD card.
5. Read, READ, READ, READ, take notes, and follow instructions to the letter. We certainly don't need another "help, I bricked my tab" thread lol
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In reference to your answers:
#3 - Am I correct in saying that I can get root access without applying a new ROM?
#4 - I have an SD card, and it looks as though with the downloads and what not, the tablet is not even using it.
How (I am sure to get a "use search" answer with someone...) do I force the tablet to download these things I need to the SD card?
Do I need an additional SD card to be used for this process only?
I see that you are working on a version of your ROM for 3.2.1, shall I just wait to avoid problems?
#5 - I have been trying to read as many "brick" threads as I can in order to avoid them.
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3) Root is getting root access to the device, which is generally needed to install custom ROMs, so I could see the confusion.
4) Almost right, you'll need to bring it back to 3.0.1 first. Be sure to have already downloaded and installed at least Acer Recovery and IconiaRoot before downgrading, as the Market is flakey as heck when you downgrade to 3.0.1. I followed method 2 in that thread and had 0 issues.
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I did find the IconiaRoot thread by Thor. It looks as though this is the reason for bringing the version back to 3.0.1, true? Not to many usable answers to the questions asked in that thread, that are answered by the OP. I will try and search for people using it and starting their own thread.
This looks to be a Windows piece of software, maybe I can get it to run on my virtual box... or wine... . I guess I could try it on my work machine.
IconiaRoot is the app to actually use the exploit found to root the device and give you root access. Now, the reason for going to 3.0.1 is because the exploit was fixed by Acer is version 3.2. So, the downgrade is needed first so that the exploit is available to root your device.
OMG..
Your worse then most of my girl friends.. ITS ALL QUITE SIMPLE AND EASY
if you are on STOCK FROM ACER.. 3.2 OR ABOVE . you must DOWNGRADE TO GET ROOT..
The best way to do this to date seems to be in the past by Jimmy Dean.. there are links to his threads in nearly every recent bricked or threads similar to yours..
im guessing if you have looked at all the threads about being bricked and still do not understand how to do it..or scared to try .
DO NOT ATTEMPT
MAYBE you should ask a dev if you can send your tablet to them in the mail and them flash it for you.. Would be my best sugestion.. Everyone that flashes anything on there tablet or any ROM BASED Device takes the risk of bricking.. IF you have read other bricking related threads you will see people complain they fallowed all instructions and still ended up bricked.. Maybe to falt of there own they missed or maybe just luck of the Flash..
Good Luck and look for Jimmy Deans post in the d/load he gives a very detailed instructions with step by step pictures. as some of the others do as well..
Thanks for listening to me RANT About my opinion...
xxx the dingy blonde Erica Renee..
fermunky said:
IconiaRoot is the app to actually use the exploit found to root the device and give you root access. Now, the reason for going to 3.0.1 is because the exploit was fixed by Acer is version 3.2. So, the downgrade is needed first so that the exploit is available to root your device.
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Perfect, thanks man.
erica_renee said:
OMG..
Your worse then most of my girl friends.. ITS ALL QUITE SIMPLE AND EASY
if you are on STOCK FROM ACER.. 3.2 OR ABOVE . you must DOWNGRADE TO GET ROOT..
The best way to do this to date seems to be in the past by Jimmy Dean.. there are links to his threads in nearly every recent bricked or threads similar to yours..
im guessing if you have looked at all the threads about being bricked and still do not understand how to do it..or scared to try .
DO NOT ATTEMPT
MAYBE you should ask a dev if you can send your tablet to them in the mail and them flash it for you.. Would be my best sugestion.. Everyone that flashes anything on there tablet or any ROM BASED Device takes the risk of bricking.. IF you have read other bricking related threads you will see people complain they fallowed all instructions and still ended up bricked.. Maybe to falt of there own they missed or maybe just luck of the Flash..
Good Luck and look for Jimmy Deans post in the d/load he gives a very detailed instructions with step by step pictures. as some of the others do as well..
Thanks for listening to me RANT About my opinion...
xxx the dingy blonde Erica Renee..
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Not sure if you ranted to make yourself feel good or show how awesome you are. Either way, this is not my first time to the rodeo, and not my first time on a forum where there are people that want to constantly show how tough they are. I have seen your posts in other threads and know what to expect from you. Because I am new here, I will not use the language I am tempted to with you.
It is so cool that you feel great enough that you can give someone a hard time because they want to make sure they are prepared to do things right the first time. As opposed to the opposite. Maybe because they want to understand how things work and the syntax surrounding the protocol(s).
My opinion on your opinion is to STFU and kiss my ass. mkay?
erica_renee said:
OMG..
The best way to do this to date seems to be in the past by Jimmy Dean.. there are links to his threads in nearly every recent bricked or threads similar to yours..
xxx the dingy blonde Erica Renee..
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Thought we were talking about tablets here ... this whole Jimmy Dean and Links givin me a hankerin for some breakmast
Give thanks to those who need it..
Thanks for such nice words.I do appreciate and value your opinion of me.
All im saying is that if you have read all the threads and post about bricked devices bad flashing stories and the threads on how to do it correctly.. That there is nothing more anyone can do or say to you about this.. Only other option is for someone to do it for you.. I did not mean to offend you in any way.
Its kinda unclear what you expected to get out of starting a thread stating that you read everything good and bad.. about flashing this tablet.. maybe the solution is to go to android sdk site and get better acquainted with the OS on a more personal level.. if you are still not understanding the process .
With that all said..
I do hope you accomplish what your trying to do.I also sent you a Thanks maybe it will make you smile and not be so hateful toward constructive criticize n.
Good Luck..
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<CLIP> Thanks maybe it will make you smile and not be so hateful toward constructive criticize n.
Good Luck..
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Ah, my mistake, I must have been confused by the meaning of "constructive criticism"
Apparently when you say:
OMG..
Your worse then most of my girl friends.. ITS ALL QUITE SIMPLE AND EASY
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That is meant in the most loving, helpful way. Right? I should have been happy with that response. I apologize.
garringm said:
Thought we were talking about tablets here ... this whole Jimmy Dean and Links givin me a hankerin for some breakmast
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Giggles im so sorry .. fix me some while your in the kitchen..
OK, erica_renee, I need to come back and give a real apology. I am having a hard day at work today and was looking toward learning a new process on my latest toy to give me a little relaxation. I just had a customer blaming my additions to the software as the cause of their problems. Not sure if you code for a living, but that is not a fun conversation.
Sorry if I was mean, I just want to learn and not be treated like an idiot. I just want to be as educated as possible before I make a move. I see to many people getting educated because they broke something.
Its all fine
I do understand what you mean..
NOPE im not in software development in anyway. I did back in the 80s own a local computer business so i know how customers can be.. As far as my past being mean and aggressive.. YES i think it was ,better to have someone dislike me then brick there device.. I have leaned alot about android thru the official android web development site.. Its alot of long winded boring reading.
all is kewl with me. I dont take this stuff personal.People including myself sometimes can become to agressive on forums. as its not really a face to face interaction..
anyway GOOD Luck...
xo xoxoxo
I got the itch for some breakfast also.
Erica, git in dere and whup me up sum vittles!!
IM So sorry TIMMY Dean
oops i feel so stupid i just realized i was having a bad blonde moment..
and while you are cooking guys bring me some as well.. I Have been banned from the kitchen. last time i dropped a expensive glass and broke it.. Thou i used to love to cook.. Boohooo
ok i shup now because im causing yet another forum to be way way off topic..
YeeP said:
Perfect, thanks man.
Not sure if you ranted to make yourself feel good or show how awesome you are. Either way, this is not my first time to the rodeo, and not my first time on a forum where there are people that want to constantly show how tough they are. I have seen your posts in other threads and know what to expect from you. Because I am new here, I will not use the language I am tempted to with you.
It is so cool that you feel great enough that you can give someone a hard time because they want to make sure they are prepared to do things right the first time. As opposed to the opposite. Maybe because they want to understand how things work and the syntax surrounding the protocol(s).
My opinion on your opinion is to STFU and kiss my ass. mkay?
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Good job could not have said any better just using reg English. Giggles
thedoc8 said:
Good job could not have said any better just using reg English. Giggles
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No Need to downgrade....
Please see attached -
Looks like they found rood for 3.2.1...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1307539
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20680452&postcount=137
mahalocat said:
Please see attached -
Looks like they found rood for 3.2.1...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1307539
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20680452&postcount=137
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Thanks! Just spent some time reading through this thread and it seems this is the post that those with 3.2.1 should go to
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20628560&postcount=119
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I've had the HTC Hero since launch in October and I've loved it. But three things have really bothered me about it. One is the fact that they are constantly delaying the new firmware and the second is that my battery life has gotten worse and I've tried all that I can to fix it. The third thing is the lag that can happen, especially when I want to make calls, can be frustrating. So I've heard about the use of custom ROMS and I feel like finally transitioning over to them. What I want to know is what exactly I have to do in order to be able to load up a custom ROM? This might be a noobish question but the last thing I wanna do is brick my phone by making a stupid mistake.
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I've had the HTC Hero since launch in October and I've loved it. But three things have really bothered me about it. One is the fact that they are constantly delaying the new firmware and the second is that my battery life has gotten worse and I've tried all that I can to fix it. The third thing is the lag that can happen, especially when I want to make calls, can be frustrating. So I've heard about the use of custom ROMS and I feel like finally transitioning over to them. What I want to know is what exactly I have to do in order to be able to load up a custom ROM? This might be a noobish question but the last thing I wanna do is brick my phone by making a stupid mistake.
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Read the FAQ's and wikis posted at the top of the forum. Once you get passed those you should be able to ask the 'right' questions
Basic steps are:
Root phone
Install recovery image
Flash rom
The wiki has steps for those...and I seriously recommend reading through the thread of whatever ROM you choose.
And before you ask: The choice of ROM is up to you. They all have good points and bad points, so don't create a thread asking which is the best...it's pretty subjective.
Damageless' great set of instructions.
Here is an excerpt from his instructions:
I have compiled this guide from the other one posted on this forum, the discussion therein, and my own knowledge. If you have any suggestions on making it better or to correct any mistakes I may have made please let me know.
This guide is intended for Windows and includes detailed instructions. It will cover the steps necessary to root, flash the new recovery image, create a full backup. This will work with software versions 1.29.651.1 and 1.56.651.2. I am not responsible for any damage done to your phone using this guide. Root at your own risk.
I have put to together a video on YouTube for you to follow along as well.
Links are attached in the .txt file.
I have used the Fresh and Damage ROM's and they are very good. Everything does seem snappier, but I still get the phone keypad lag which is very, very troublesome and not noticeably different from the stock. Others have claim no lag, and so YMMD.
There are many neat things about the modded ROM's, but there doesn't seem to be much to be done about the phone lag. Not good, since first and foremost I expect the Hero to be a *phone*.
smw6180 said:
Read the FAQ's and wikis posted at the top of the forum. Once you get passed those you should be able to ask the 'right' questions
Basic steps are:
Root phone
Install recovery image
Flash rom
The wiki has steps for those...and I seriously recommend reading through the thread of whatever ROM you choose.
And before you ask: The choice of ROM is up to you. They all have good points and bad points, so don't create a thread asking which is the best...it's pretty subjective.
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Thanks everyone. Dont worry, I wanted to do my own research on the ROM's anyways.
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Here is an excerpt from his instructions:
I have compiled this guide from the other one posted on this forum, the discussion therein, and my own knowledge. If you have any suggestions on making it better or to correct any mistakes I may have made please let me know.
This guide is intended for Windows and includes detailed instructions. It will cover the steps necessary to root, flash the new recovery image, create a full backup. This will work with software versions 1.29.651.1 and 1.56.651.2. I am not responsible for any damage done to your phone using this guide. Root at your own risk.
I have put to together a video on YouTube for you to follow along as well.
Links are attached in the .txt file.
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Didnt mean to double post but doesnt the first link already cover the second link because I found a nandroid file after rooting
Hi, my phone now is working and all ( the is it bricked post) Thanks guys
Here is the new problem...I would like to go to 2.2.1 ( the passimg.zip is 2.2) is there a way to update without unlocking bootloader.
I tried Androot and superoneclick....Androot gives me the Fugu message and SuperOneClick says its Rooted...but when I go to rom manager or other apps that need superuser...
I get this message : An error occured while attemting to run privileged commands!
So basically Root isn't working.
Also, when trying to install Cyan cm6...Rom manager reboots...but I get the Triangle with the exclamation point with the green man next to it...
Is it still possible to have my cake and eat it? ( locked phone, with root access so I can install modded roms)
Again...can someone help me with this
Thanks!
You didn't have to make a duplicate post. I already answered one of your questions in the other thread.
Dont make another post next time...
I rooted FRG83D with superoneclick root, But if its not working for ya you will have to unlock the bootloader via fastboot. Then push a custom recovery. With the recovery you can install the su binaries.
Manual root:
http://www.nexusoneforum.net/forum/...mple-sdk-setup-manual-root-guide-windows.html
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Ok i'll only answer here now for this question:
I don't want to loose my warranty. Hence the softroot way.
I thought of something dunno if its possible:
is there a stock FRG83 image like the FRG33 I just installed....maybe 2.2.1 will be compatible with androot or superoneclick
Thanks
You need to do a few things before you go any further. There are key steps you are leaving out that are just a recipe for disaster. I'll detail them below, in the specific order you should follow them. There shall be no deviation from this list.
1 - Put your phone down. Seriously, stop messing with it. Just quit.
2 - Read the Wiki that you've been linked to, in both threads, several times.
2a - Now that you've read the Wiki, really read the Wiki. Yeah, you skimmed it the first time, I know you did.
2b - Now go read it again. I'm sure you'll notice something new this time.
2c - Now go read the links in the Wiki. Explore those threads.
2d - Those threads that the Wiki links to? They have links in them. Go read those.
3 - Rinse and repeat all steps from 2a to 2d for, oh, about 4 days. During this time you are allowed:
To post general chit chat on the forum. No technical stuff, no help threads, no questions. Just read. If you have questions, you need to read some more.
No more than 3 app installs per day, from the market. Thou shalt not download and install any APKs from any source that is not the Android Market.
To tweak settings on your phone, provided those settings are all done via the touchscreen on your phone. You shall forget the acronym "ADB".
Once you've done that, you'll root your phone in no time, and you won't be worried that you've bricked it. Then, and only then, can you start asking questions.
Why? Because all of your questions right now are answered. You're jumping the gun, and it's obvious you haven't done much research at all. Seriously, go read.
I hate to be mean, but if you want to understand stuff, you need to try and understand it on your own first. You're here looking for solutions (that are already spelled out) to problems that you created (because you didn't read anything). Quit looking for the easy way out. If you want to enjoy your phone and the features of what you're trying to accomplish...put some work in yourself, and stop expecting everyone else to fix everything and spell it out. People here are more than happy to help, but you gotta start helping yourself.
@Soberguy: Thumbs up to you. Couldn't have said it any better.
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@Soberguy: Thumbs up to you. Couldn't have said it any better.
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Thanks, mate. Didn't mean to quote the guy above me, just noticed I did that. Fixed it.
I'm amazed at the patience some folks have. Maybe it was my rough 3 day weekend that's left me a bit short... Appreciate the thanks, all the same.
Ok, I do go a bit fast.
I'll read...it just that I tried the cm7 mod ( i know its experimental) and the phone
would'nt boot.
With the help of the great people on the board, I got my phone working again but on FRG33 (2.2)
My last question was if it was possible ( or someone knows of because Ive checked the net) to root without unlocking ( androot and superoneclick that i know of) if I have FRG33 ( Because Ive been getting permission errors)
Finally, I wanted to know if a FRG83 stock image was available so that I could recover to it without unlocking bootloader. (or any other stock that lets me root without unlock)
I'll unlock the phone as a last option...I'm sorry...And if anyone is pissed at my posts ...well sorry I just taught some of you experts could help.
pooky2010 said:
Ok, I do go a bit fast.
I'll unlock the phone as a last option...I'm sorry...And if anyone is pissed at my posts ...well sorry I just taught some of you experts could help.
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See? Looking for the easy way out again.
It's not about anyone being pissed or short on patience. Look at how frustrated you are with the situation. You're frustrated. Why? Cause you did it wrong. Why? Cause you didn't read enough first. Even after several suggestions, you still want it done, with help, right now, or you'll sulk about someone pissed and how no one held your hand through it.
Is it possible to do what you want? Absolutely! Pretty easy, too. But if you read and help yourself, you'll better understand how to update in the future, as well as how to root the future update. Or, you'll learn how to root what you have, and flash a pre-rooted stock ROM (yes, those are here as well).
So call me an ass, cool. You did in your mind, that's fine. But really, I'm trying to let you know what will help you the most, and that's having a better understanding of how to prevent a boot loop in the future, or at least how to fix it if it happens. Best of luck, man.
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Here's the deal.
I did a one click root without unlocking the bootloader. Then I installed rom manager and flashed clockwork recovery. Then I did a backup ( both done in rom manager) then I went back into rom manager and installed cyanogenmod 7 and my nexus is now haxored gingerbread. Make sure you do a full wipe before flashing new roms and it'll always work.
I didn't update my radio, my hboot or anything like that. And it all just works and is dead simple. I would suggest trying z4root or universal androot and then downloading rom manager from the market.
How you managed to **** up something so simple is pretty funny dude.
I'm using an at&t band n1 with an smiled. Not the one with super LCD. I heard a rumor that the super LCD n1s have problems with certain mods. You might want to figure out what type of screen you have too.
The cyanogenmod wiki at cyanogenmod.com might help you too.
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OP, you have to learn the hard way. Stop using "newbie" as an excuse.
I was also a "newbie" when I first got my Nexus One in February. Everything about android was new and alien to me. It actually took me a couple of months of lurking in xda and reading up on tutorials before I took the plunge to rooting my phone. And I did not bother anyone on that. I made sure I understood the steps and triple checked every move I made in following instructions even though I did not understand them.
I also was worried about warranty and actually did the manual way of rooting my phone without unlocking the bootloader using some method that involved cutting a piece of plastic from my battery. That was nerve wrecking and no where as simple as the superoneclick thingy you have now. Yet I survived and I did it on my own.
I must admit that you have to be a little bit confident in using computers and have some basic knowledge of typing commands in cmd. But everyone has to start from somewhere.
Seriously if it's too much trouble or too complicated, maybe staying stock or going Iphone is a more comfortable alternative.
I'm actually pretty good with computers...
Also, I have bricked 4 phones (the provider took them back) fooling around...
I could brought this one back ( they didnt check). But I want to learn...I'm pretty impulsif...Anyway so far
With FRG33 z4root works (read thanks)
Now I trying to flash clockwork...( when I download cyan 6 +google apps) it reboots but I get the triangle thingy...I click power volume up ( read that thanks) I get a blue menu...I kinda scared to click an option so I rebooted...I'm trying to use rom manager for updates because its really simple ...anyway
Thats it for tonight All of you guys are nice dudes and I'll learn and will try to help im my own way...I know I'm a newbie that likes short cuts (hell I read all day at my day job...lol) This is fun ( playing with male toys)
Thanks guys!
I installed the 3.1 firmware from this site, what is the easiest way to get back to 3.01. I keep reading conflicting procedures. I have one way what is the easiest way to convert back to american 3.01
jjnewb said:
I installed the 3.1 firmware from this site, what is the easiest way to get back to 3.01. I keep reading conflicting procedures. I have one way what is the easiest way to convert back to american 3.01
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The easiest way, as has been said time and time again, is to restore to the backup you should have made before altering your tablet's ROM.
Me and a lot of people didn't back up
If I backed up I wouldn't be asking this question. Obviously you backed up, I didn't you are my hero!! I didn't root or use the backup program I just downloaded 3.1 onto external sd then hit on on -vol. it loaded with no problem. If you have an easy way to get back to 3.01 American you would definitely be my hero.
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If I backed up I wouldn't be asking this question. Obviously you backed up, I didn't you are my hero!! I didn't root or use the backup program I just downloaded 3.1 onto external sd then hit on on -vol. it loaded with no problem. If you have an easy way to get back to 3.01 American you would definitely be my hero.
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There are several threads describing how to go back. Why don't you be your own hero and do a little reading?
Will this work
I am very new at this and I know the new ota is coming out tomorrow if I use this will it work so I can get new update http://www.acertabletforum.com/forum/acer-iconia-tab-roms/559-return-stock-acer-rom.html
just do a factory reset...the apps that are not responding now will start working fine...
--same happened to me and after go for a factory reset everything was just fine...and i still keep the 3.1 just working flawless.
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There are several threads describing how to go back. Why don't you be your own hero and do a little reading?
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LoL the first day I bought the a500 I made sure I backed up the stock Rom after I got recovery, its just chilling in my recovery folder
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someone got link to post explaining at least that could be nice.
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someone got link to post explaining at least that could be nice.
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+1 please!!
Not to be an ass, but when we are talking about doing or not doing backups before flashing ANY ROM to your pad. The most important question you can ask yourself is, "At what point did or will my data become unimportant to me?"
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when we are talking about doing or not doing backups before flashing ANY ROM to your pad. The most important question you can ask yourself is, "At what point did or will my data become unimportant to me?"
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That is certainly one interpretation but since I can only speak for myself, that wasn't the issue for me. My data *IS* important to me and I do religious backups through TitaniumBackup. In my case, I misunderstood the backup process and skipped it because I thought it was redundant when flashing a new ROM.
I had read extensively but didn't realize that I needed an additional backup of the ROM. I take full responsibility and blame no one but myself because I knew the risks of living on the edge.
All this to say == it isn't always a matter of not caring about data...sometimes, I suppose, but not always.
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That is certainly one interpretation but since I can only speak for myself, that wasn't the issue for me. My data *IS* important to me and I do religious backups through TitaniumBackup. In my case, I misunderstood the backup process and skipped it because I thought it was redundant when flashing a new ROM.
I had read extensively but didn't realize that I needed an additional backup of the ROM. I take full responsibility and blame no one but myself because I knew the risks of living on the edge.
All this to say == it isn't always a matter of not caring about data...sometimes, I suppose, but not always.
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Usually a moderator will come in here and "discipline" the people in here lecturing you instead of helping.
Don't get discouraged by people telling you to read elsewhere or lecturing you on the importance of backing up.
On one of my YouTube videos on helping people perform a factory reset of the HTC G1 smartphone there's almost 300,00 views now. Once in awhile there's someone who comments to those people with a lecture. (I delete those comments.)
I mention this to simply emphasize that the high and mighty attitude some display in here is not restricted to XDA.
In any event, there's a few threads specifically on getting the A500 back to 3.01 And those threads provide posts with links to downloading the original Honeycomb. It's just as easy as it is to update.
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The easiest way, as has been said time and time again, is to restore to the backup you should have made before altering your tablet's ROM.
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I created a system, flexrom and boot image of my A500 directly after I got root. Is this what you mean by a backup? Since I believe I can just run dd if=/dev/block/system.img of=/sdcard/mmcblk0p3 and all to restore the images to stock?
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I mention this to simply emphasize that the high and mighty attitude some display in here is not restricted to XDA.
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Thanks for the kind words... I am always surprised at the vast number of people who are so helpful in forums like this. It is amazing how many go far above the call of duty in running down solutions for total strangers.
Those interested in getting back their OTA, properly backing up their original ROMS or restoring them, please follow the tutorials in this thread:
Going back to stock TUTORIAL
Be helpful and provide your firmware if you have a backup so we can build a database for those who don't.
Be sure to report what is working and what is not working for you once you've tried the tutorials!
Unlike the 14 threads on these matter I take the responsibility as OP to upgrade my original post as firmwares and new info becomes available.
Ok. I need root and su and busybox for my Acer 500 with 3.2.1. Is it possible yet?
Hmmm.... this post was about 8 posts under yours.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1307539
If in doubt, contact TimmyDean He's becoming a root-master lately
I am in the same ship. I have an iconia a500 with stock 3.2.1.
Have been studying but no clear answer. We can not flash rooted firmware cause we can not have cwm on a non rooted tab. Can someone write or... rewrite clear instructions?
Please, we are not experts like you people, but some steps that look clear to you are not so clear to us. Please respond.
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I am in the same ship. I have an iconia a500 with stock 3.2.1.
Have been studying but no clear answer. We can not flash rooted firmware cause we can not have cwm on a non rooted tab. Can someone write or... rewrite clear instructions?
Please, we are not experts like you people, but some steps that look clear to you are not so clear to us. Please respond.
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Would you like this spoon fed to you with a warm glass of milk as well?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1307539
Ok, just to be sure. This is on the first line milkman and thanks for being ironic. As I wrote, some of us are new to android, and tried to study, but we need some things to be clear to us. "Ok, after messing around with 3.2 I decided to fix the rooting issues without downgrading"
I am on 3.2.1. So I need to downgrade it to 3.2?
Why wouldnt I downgrade to 3.0? Isnt rooting easier? What problems could I face?
Yes, you do downgrade to 3.0
Its extremely unstable everything force closes, so obtain root, flash cwm and get OFF stock rooted 3.0 quickly as you can
Stock rooted 3.2.1 is (one of) the best bets for ROMs for our tab right now. Flash that and then do some research into additional ROMs, if you want to.
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Ok, just to be sure. This is on the first line milkman and thanks for being ironic. As I wrote, some of us are new to android, and tried to study, but we need some things to be clear to us. "Ok, after messing around with 3.2 I decided to fix the rooting issues without downgrading"
I am on 3.2.1. So I need to downgrade it to 3.2?
Why wouldnt I downgrade to 3.0? Isnt rooting easier? What problems could I face?
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Well, did anybody bother to download and read the pdf or word doc file in the attached link above? Because it sounds like you didn't. I don't have 3.2.1 as I have a 501, so I have no need to perform this, but the doc even has pictures with circles and arrows and a paragraph explaining each step with warnings and notes in red.
After the root is done, he even has a tool to install busybox. (you may want to install the superuser app first I believe he says)
I really don't know how much simpler it could be.
I suggest, if you have a question about the root app, as I stated previously above, you contact TimmyDean on his thread about any confusion you may possibly have.
If you are unfamiliar with certain terminology used, AndroidCentral has a good Android dictionary.
Honestly tho, it sound like you all didn't bother to download and read the doc or pdf.
You are 100% right. I read everything except that one you said. Just finished flashing. VERY EASY, and GOD BLESS YOU my friend.
Didnt understand the backdoor tools OTA and busybox. My final question is, now that I have finished flashing (first step) am I rooted or do I have to complete the other steps?
What did you flash? Back to stock?
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You are 100% right. I read everything except that one you said. Just finished flashing. VERY EASY, and GOD BLESS YOU my friend.
Didnt understand the backdoor tools OTA and busybox. My final question is, now that I have finished flashing (first step) am I rooted or do I have to complete the other steps?
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Yeah Yeah Yeah,,, act first, read instructions later
From what I understand, the backdoor tools will keep you from getting OTA updates. Maybe I'm wrong, but I really wasn't interested in that part. If you ever recieve notice from Acer, DO NOT install it. Usually, Acer likes to ship new bootloaders with their updates, just to mess with us "rooters".
Go to the Market, and get Superuser app and let it install.
I believe at this point, you have to run Install the busybox Tools (busybox folder), as I believe it gives you the option to install Busybox and Superuser tools. (not sure what exactly are the superuser tools, but he seems to think it's necessary, as when you run the app, it tell you to have superuser installed first)
And I think that's all you need. Then select Reboot the system.
The easiest way to check if you have superuser access, is to download an app that requires it.
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Oh, 1 more thing. I don't think TimmyDeans app installs CWM recovery. He didn't specify this. So you may want to post a note or read his threads as somebody else may have asked the same thing.
CWM Recovery is necessary to flash custom roms. If you get root access, then probably you need to download AcerRecovery from the market, run it, and install Thor's Recovery image. (pretty painless).
And that's it. Then you have to follow instructions VERY CAREFULLY when flashing things, and always understand fully what you're doing.
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What did you flash? Back to stock?
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He ran TimmyDeans root for 3.2.1. He downloaded and "read" the included instructions.
no, just followed the guide step by step, read it 4 times and proceeded.
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no, just followed the guide step by step, read it 4 times and proceeded.
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Exactly
Better to ask questions, and avoid a brick, and definately read the instructions seveal times.
Oh yeah, a tidbit, make sure you hit "quote", so we know who you're replying to
Yup, it's all in the guide and if you get the latest versions (V4) there is nothing to load. It loads all the rooting tools and busybox stuff for you.
The other tools in the package are things that allow you to turn OFF OTA's so you're not blindsided by an OTA breaking root. Or you can take an OTA when you want and not when ACER wants you too. The backdoor tools are tools designed to stop an OTA from breaking root. However, V4 has one of these techniques already installed therefore if you don't turn off OTA's; most likely you'll keep root (again most likely, not guaranteed).
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Junkyardjames87, I think this is what your asking for.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1429199
but seriously...next time take 5 mins to look thru the dev section for roms.
Ok,ok. I did find timmydeans post after i just logged off. I was just really really tired that night. If you read my sig and look into the motorola bravo you will see why I've been tired. Thankyou all for the help. I did get root bty so all is good now. And remember, we all started out as a dumb n00b before we found XDA.
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Ok,ok. I did find timmydeans post after i just logged off. I was just really really tired that night. If you read my sig and look into the motorola bravo you will see why I've been tired. Thankyou all for the help. I did get root bty so all is good now. And remember, we all started out as a dumb n00b before we found XDA.
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Exactly. We were all n00bs at one time. Lest we ever forget.
"The only stupid question, is the one that never gets asked" (from an old guy long ago who has since traveled to "a better world")
Speaking for a lot of regulars here, we would rather answer n00b questions, (and yes, we will give some mocking in it), than to deal with a bricked tab later.
So you go ahead and ask those questions
Sometimes, users will give you an absolute hard time. Pay no attention to it. It's because we want you to use your resources. Do your searches. Be polite, and you'll find we'll help you in all that is possible. Sometimes, we don't have the answer (rarely), but others may.
And no, we do not always spend all day on the forums. Some of us live in different countries, with different time zones. And some have jobs and family also. So if certain people don't respond, well, give it some hours.
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Exactly. We were all n00bs at one time. Lest we ever forget.
"The only stupid question, is the one that never gets asked" (from an old guy long ago who has since traveled to "a better world")
Speaking for a lot of regulars here, we would rather answer n00b questions, (and yes, we will give some mocking in it), than to deal with a bricked tab later.
So you go ahead and ask those questions
Sometimes, users will give you an absolute hard time. Pay no attention to it. It's because we want you to use your resources. Do your searches. Be polite, and you'll find we'll help you in all that is possible. Sometimes, we don't have the answer (rarely), but others may.
And no, we do not always spend all day on the forums. Some of us live in different countries, with different time zones. And some have jobs and family also. So if certain people don't respond, well, give it some hours.
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Exactly, well said.
Please dear God help me out with this, I am so lost! So I bought an Acer A500 tab, and I want to root it. But before that! I want to save the current firmware and the CWM due to me having a two year warranty on the device, and I'm a afraid if I were to return the device with issues clearly it'll void the warranty since I've rooted the device. So please can anybody help me out? I am in huge need of help!
Thanks in advance!
To help you I need first some information about your tab. First,what android version is installed on your tab? The best backup will be with CWM but then you need root.
Of course you could connect your tab to the PC via USB and copy everything to your HDD. But I think here you need root as well to be able to see the system folders... .
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Mkami said:
Please dear God help me out with this, I am so lost! So I bought an Acer A500 tab, and I want to root it. But before that! I want to save the current firmware and the CWM due to me having a two year warranty on the device, and I'm a afraid if I were to return the device with issues clearly it'll void the warranty since I've rooted the device. So please can anybody help me out? I am in huge need of help!
Thanks in advance!
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A paradox.
You can't save your current rom in it's native form unless you root. And you can't save it, unless you install a custom recovery. And even then, you're saving a modified OS that if you restore, will be modified. So a paradox.
So if you want to root, and install roms, you'll just have to suck it up like everybody else
Fortunately, lots of methods to revert back to stock in case needed.
So, you either take the plunge, or stay stock.
Not only that but most Big Box stores dont have a clue and rarely look at it anyway ,unless you tell them its something you did (which would void the warranty) . But for me personally I void warranty within a few hours on everything I get , if its electronic they always take it back , I wouldnt worry about it , run a bunch of stress tests for a couple days if the components are sound ,it will complete them no problem , then root away and have fun!
Thank you all!
Thank you all for your replies! I can honestly say, I can happily root my device without a worry now. But I have a couple of things I'd like to ask, for one. What is a cpu ID? Also say for example I rooted my device and want to revert back to the original OS is that possible or not? Here is my current information.
Android Version
3.0.1
Kernel Version
2.6.36.3-00001-gf991e5d
Build number
Acer_A500_1.016.05_COM_GEN1
That's my current information. IF anybody of you guys call tell me I would like to root my device but with ICS not with Honeycomb since at the moment that's what I currently have. Also I have 2 year warranty.
Cheers! And much appreciation!
First, this is an excellent post about CPUIDs, why you need them, and how to get them posted by dibb_nz ... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25429111#post25429111 this will really give some direction on why it's important and how you can get it.
If you want to root an ICS rom I recommend reading this post from Civato on how to upgrade your bootloader to v6: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1622425 I recommend the Automated Flashing tools for ease, but the manual version is good if you want to know more about what you're doing on the tablet.
Then pick a ROM, I personally use Flexreaper Extreme, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22964651&postcount=1 but there are several out there to choose from, I recommend putting several on your MicroSD card before you start any portion of the process and that way you have several to choose from, test between them, and don't "over customize" until you make your decision.
Finally, I'll remind to you, as many others will do, BACKUP BACKUP BACKUP!
Good Luck, and most importantly, have fun!
-DB
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First, this is an excellent post about CPUIDs, why you need them, and how to get them posted by dibb_nz ... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25429111#post25429111 this will really give some direction on why it's important and how you can get it.
If you want to root an ICS rom I recommend reading this post from Civato on how to upgrade your bootloader to v6: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1622425 I recommend the Automated Flashing tools for ease, but the manual version is good if you want to know more about what you're doing on the tablet.
Then pick a ROM, I personally use Flexreaper Extreme, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22964651&postcount=1 but there are several out there to choose from, I recommend putting several on your MicroSD card before you start any portion of the process and that way you have several to choose from, test between them, and don't "over customize" until you make your decision.
Finally, I'll remind to you, as many others will do, BACKUP BACKUP BACKUP!
Good Luck, and most importantly, have fun!
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You freaking rock bro! I have a question, since I already have Honeycomb on my Android by default, would I need to root first before I update it to the newer version of the ICS? OR would I just have to manually update it first and then begin the process of rooting the device? I as well admire Flexreaper Extreme. I also noticed there are special mods for the device to change the skin etc...Would you know where I can get the tutorial on that? I know I'm jumping too much, but I'm too darn excited to do this. Hahaha.
Cheers!
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You freaking rock bro!
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Thanks!
Mkami said:
I have a question, since I already have Honeycomb on my Android by default, would I need to root first before I update it to the newer version of the ICS? OR would I just have to manually update it first and then begin the process of rooting the device?
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You should be able to start the process by going through the steps in Civato's post on how to change your Bootloader, make sure you have a ROM on the MicroSD before doing this, and then follow the steps to install the ROM you choose.
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I as well admire Flexreaper Extreme. I also noticed there are special mods for the device to change the skin etc...Would you know where I can get the tutorial on that?
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In the OP for Flexreaper there are discussions about how to install the customizations, Civ wrote a great beginners guide to modding that might help, posted here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1648162
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I know I'm jumping too much, but I'm too darn excited to do this. Hahaha.
Cheers!
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No worries, it's a good thing to be excited about...I enjoy changing ROMs, testing apps, and generally "messing" with my tablet all the time.
Good Luck, Have fun, and don't forget to BACKUP!!
-DB
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Thanks!
You should be able to start the process by going through the steps in Civato's post on how to change your Bootloader, make sure you have a ROM on the MicroSD before doing this, and then follow the steps to install the ROM you choose.
In the OP for Flexreaper there are discussions about how to install the customizations, Civ wrote a great beginners guide to modding that might help, posted here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1648162
No worries, it's a good thing to be excited about...I enjoy changing ROMs, testing apps, and generally "messing" with my tablet all the time.
Good Luck, Have fun, and don't forget to BACKUP!!
-DB
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Heyyy I finally rooted my iconia! XD Thank you so much for the help! I appreciate it! One thing now....after I booted my device it's stuck on the Acer logo.... :X any solutions?? Sorry again for the trouble!
Mkami said:
Heyyy I finally rooted my iconia! XD Thank you so much for the help! I appreciate it! One thing now....after I booted my device it's stuck on the Acer logo.... :X any solutions?? Sorry again for the trouble!
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Sounds like it didn't install cleanly. Double check the checksum, try redownload, wipe everything and reinstall. If that doesn't work make sure that your bootloader and Rom match.
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Sounds like it didn't install cleanly. Double check the checksum, try redownload, wipe everything and reinstall. If that doesn't work make sure that your bootloader and Rom match.
Sent from my ADR6400L using xda premium
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Hi! Thanks for your reply I have successfully rooted my device after hours of research I had to reinstall everything from scratch, unfortunately my build for my tab isn't the same as the the build I had it when I bought it, oh well...So now I have HC 3.0.1
So now I want to flash the device, is that possible? I want to get that ICS look without updating it to the ICS. I was wondering what would you advice me to do? haha, I know I'm asking way too many questions in this single form, I have an excuse for that I'm a noob, hahaha. But seriously your help is very much appreciated!
I will suggest rooting your HC ROM first, then install recovery for example via acer recovery installer. Make a backup then!
After that you can use AFTEROTA to upgrade the bootliader and recovery. When finished install an ICS ROM of your choice. With the help from AFTEROTA you can all ways go back to stock HC version.
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[Solved] Thank you every that helped me
Thank you guys for your help and advices! I have successfully updated and rooted, and flashed my device after hours of reading and going through posts, hahaha. Of course I did do a full backup of everything and now I am good to go! Again thanks again guys, much appreciation!
Cheers! Moe Kami!