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As others suggested (oseven) I've started a new thread for checking your opinion on this release.
To clearify, I am not affiliated with Fingertouchpro.com , but I saw many other keyboards advertised in this forum, that are not so good as this one, so I think it is my responsibility to make people aware of a great product.
Quoting from the product description:
"Fingertouch Professional is by FAR the best keyboard released for the Pocket PC platform. Big, finger friendly keys, fT9 technology, UltraKeyboard technology, predictive keyboard, multiple languages, drag-and-drop configurable keyboard, gestures, skins, magnifier, are just a few to provide an insight into the thought and research that went into developing this program. Entering text on your Pocket PC has never been this fast! "
The new release 2.0.RC-6 offers WM6.1 compatibility. As a note this keyboard also works with TrueVGA modes.
It supports several languages: English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Russian and Greek. More languages can be customized by the user.
More details on
Code:
http://www.teksoftco.com/index.php?section=fingertouchpro
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"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
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"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
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There are several videos showing FTPRO in action, some of them work as tutorials, for showing some interesting features like: fast t9 input, resizable sip size, adding new words to the dictioanry.
I'm looking forward to your opinion. I'm planning to do a short comparison between the available keyboards.
There also is a freeware version of FT, see:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=407735
xda-addict said:
As others suggested (oseven) I've started a new thread for checking your opinion on this release.
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Ummmmm when did I EVER suggest you start a new thread? I suggested stopping preaching your keyboard all over the forum...
Does it address the following issues???????????????????????
eaglesteve said:
Macaby007,
Thank you for introducing us to another keyboard options. I'm constantly on a lookout for better applications, be it the task manager, file manager, or battery gauge. I don't have special allegiance to any of them. It is the same when come to software keyboard.
By now,I'd have tried both Finger Touch and Tengo for a very extensive period without any prejudice against either one,
I would like to offer my view,which happens to differ from yours. I hope you do not take offence that I have a different opinion.
For me, I look at the following issues when choosing my most favoured keyboard and I look at these issues not just for these two keyboards but all future one that come along.
Real VGA compliant
= = = = = = = = = = = = =
This should be the very first criteria for those of us using Tobias' wonderful realVGA utility.
The standard Finger Touch does not support real VGA, but the specially created version for PK ROM does. Tengo supports all threeall along. I would be generous, and consider Finger Touch realVGA compliant on all VGA devices, not just the special version on Athena.
Score Tengo vs FT: 1:1
Key sizes for ABC keys
= = = = = = = = = = = = = =
This affects the ease of hitting the key. The larger the hitting area the better it will be to quicklyhit a key without missing it. Large hitting area is good whetherwe use stylus, finger,or thumb.
The Portrait mode Key size of the most likely to be used layout is measured. Size of Tengo Nano layout and layout 1 for Finger Touch are compared.
Tengo Nano key size: 108 square mm
Finger Touch key size: 56.25 square mm
Score Tengo vs FT: 2:1
Distance travelled to go from alpha key to alpha key
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Do you have to swing your stylus from coordinate 1,1 to 10,3? Does your thumb need to stretch to the centre of the keyboard, then very quickl bend unnaturally inward to reach for the z and m keys? Wouldn't it be much better if the thumb is relaxed around the TYGHVB key areas, and not having to travel to the QAZPLM areas?
Score Tengo vs FT: 3:1
The number of keys to choose from
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Typical keyboard has 26 keys to choose from when typing a alphabet character. A keyboard that groups these 26 keys into fewer keys means four things:
1) less choices means quicker choices.
2) less choices means less chances of mistakes
3) less keys means travel distan from key to key is minimised, hence faster typing speed.
4) less grouping also means we have larger hitting area, as mentioned in the preceding paragraph.
Tengo groups the keys into 6 while Finger Touchdoes not group them.
Score Tengo vs FT: 4:1
Direct access to numbers and commonly used punctuation marks
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
It is just more convenient to have these commonly required keys directly accessible.
Both the layout compared does this.
Score Tengo vs FT: 4:1
Screen real estate invaded.
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Why do people want real VGA? It's because we value seeing more.
When we use a hardware keyboard, the biggest benefit is it leaves our screen completely available for the applications at all time. Software keyboard takes over some of the previous real estate. While we want large hitting area,we also at the same time want more screen space for the application, especially in landscape mode.
Can this contradiction be solved?
The most ideal keyboard would have a very low height but large hitting areas, yet having direct access to all alphas,numbers,and common punctuations.
Height of Tengo nano: 24mm - you see more
Height of Finger Touch: 37.5mm - you see less
Score Tengo vs FT: 5:1
Completeness of functions
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
The main things that I look for are:
- cut and copy, either using CTRL + XCV or special keys.
Both keyboards have CTRL keys, but Tengo also have special cut/copy/paste keys.
- delete last character or word.
Both keyboards can delete the last character, but Tengo can also delete the last word without needing to first highlight the word.
- Changing CAP for whole word or first character of word just typed.
In Finger Touch, you must decide to cap it BEFORE typing. In Tengo, you can do that, but additionally you can type first, then cap the first character or the entire word AFTER typing - I use this feature very often.
- completeness of symbols: while this may sound obvious and even taken for granted, there are keyboards out there with incomplete symbols. Happy Tapping keyboard does not have £ sign is an example.
Finger Touch has these [email protected]#$%^&*()/<>,.?`-=[]\;' ~_+{}|:"
Tengo has these symbols
@#$%^&()/<>,.?!+':"_ \` *¢ ;=[ ]{ } ~ £ ¥ € ± ^ ®© ™ |º § « » ¿¡ ¶ µ
These characters are in Tengo and not in FT:
'¢ £ ¥ € ± ^ ®© ™ º § « » ¿¡ ¶ µ
Every symbol in FT is also in Tengo.
- support for canned message,or fast keyboard. It would increase productivity a great deal to have phrases such as 'what are you up to' being inserted my choosing from an ordered pre-stored message list. This function is already available in the sms application, but having it as the keyboard function means other applications can benefit from this function too.
Both does this.
- Support for accented words such as café, and the ease of doing it.
Tengo does this. I don't see this function in Finger Touch.
- multi language support.
Tengo supports Danish,Dutch,English,Finnish, French, German, Italian, Norwegian, Portuguese, Spanish, and Swedish.
Finger Touch supports English. I could not find any information on the vendor website that suggest Finger Touch has similar functionality.
That's the list of functions I've listed but you may have others. Please feel free to mention them.
So, contrary to Macaby007's view in posting 1, I give the point on comprehensiveness to Tengo rather than Finger Touch.
Score Tengo vs FT: 6:1
Ease of updating the dictionary
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Like it or not, the standard dictionary will not contain all the words you use.
Tengo lets you add and remove words easily. I can't figure out how this could be done with Finger Touch
I would give Finger Touch the benefit of doubt and consider it capable of this
Score Tengo vs FT: 7:2
In conclusion, I still think Tengo is the best software keyboard between the two.
Cheers.
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xda-addict said:
To clearify, I am not affiliated with Fingertouchpro.com [/url]
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Dont talk utter **** you lying imbecile.
You have been a member for 11 months and out of 79 posts 78 of them are promoting, advertising your amazing!, unbeatable!, better than any other! keyboard.
by all means advertise or ,promote a (your) product but dont try an take the piss ey m8?
fool
Fex, I'm sure this kind of language is not tolerated here, and may I suggest you get a check for anger control...
As I already said, I only posted about FTPRO were I've seen ads to other keyboards.
You can see that all my posts are following some other keyboard crap (TP).
So if you're talking about advertising, you should discuss with those that started those initial threads.
I did this, because I need to show others that there are better alternatives, not to let themselves fooled by some cheap apps promovated on this forum.
xda-addict said:
Fex, I'm sure this kind of language is not tolerated here, and may I suggest you get a check for anger control...
As I already said, I only posted about FTPRO were I've seen ads to other keyboards.
You can see that all my posts are following some other keyboard crap (TP).
So if you're talking about advertising, you should discuss with those that started those initial threads.
I did this, because I need to show others that there are better alternatives, not to let themselves fooled by some cheap apps promovated on this forum.
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People have, do, and will always make their own decisions. People have posted their comments about TouchPal, and they are just that - comments, not advertisements! This is a forum where discussion of opinion takes place, not advertising..find a billboard or something for that. You're just using this forum as a free way of promoting your keyboard as much as you can, and I for one am sick of it.
You've said your piece, why can't you drop it now?
PS: Don't pick up on Fex's language and then use it yourself.
cktlcmd said:
Does it address the following issues???????????????????????
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That's a long list, let me try to answer (where I can):
cktlcmd said:
Real VGA compliant
= = = = = = = = = = = = =
This should be the very first criteria for those of us using Tobias' wonderful realVGA utility.
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FTPRO and also the free version, are both compatible with RealVGA modes, and several DPI values. See this snapshot: http://teksoftco.com/products/fingertouchpro/large/33.jpg
cktlcmd said:
Key sizes for ABC keys
= = = = = = = = = = = = = =
This affects the ease of hitting the key. The larger the hitting area the better it will be to quicklyhit a key without missing it. Large hitting area is good whetherwe use stylus, finger,or thumb.
The Portrait mode Key size of the most likely to be used layout is measured.
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Well you can change the keyboard's size, so by doing this you can increase/decrease the size of keys to the desired value. Alternatively one can use the various layouts included (they are 5 in the last version, each layout looks and performs differently so I'd say there are lots of options here)
cktlcmd said:
Distance travelled to go from alpha key to alpha key
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Do you have to swing your stylus from coordinate 1,1 to 10,3? Does your thumb need to stretch to the centre of the keyboard, then very quickl bend unnaturally inward to reach for the z and m keys? Wouldn't it be much better if the thumb is relaxed around the TYGHVB key areas, and not having to travel to the QAZPLM areas?
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The keys can be moved wherever you like. You need to go to settings and enable option "Allow dragable keys" in the Layout tab. With this option enabled, you can move the keys arround with a simple drag and drop. The new configuration remains even after a reset. Here is a snapshot showing where this option is located:
http://teksoftco.com/products/fingertouchpro/large/09.jpg
cktlcmd said:
The number of keys to choose from
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Typical keyboard has 26 keys to choose from when typing a alphabet character. A keyboard that groups these 26 keys into fewer keys means four things:
1) less choices means quicker choices.
2) less choices means less chances of mistakes
3) less keys means travel distan from key to key is minimised, hence faster typing speed.
4) less grouping also means we have larger hitting area, as mentioned in the preceding paragraph.
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The phone layout groups 3/4 characters on a key. The last layout groups 2 chars on a key. So if you disable fT9, you can type quickly using only a few keys. Or you can keep fT9 to type fast, see:
http://www.fingertouchpro.com/index.php?section=home&video=2#videos
cktlcmd said:
Direct access to numbers and commonly used punctuation marks
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
It is just more convenient to have these commonly required keys directly accessible.
Both the layout compared does this.
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Pressing Shift or the F ON key brings lots of special characters.
cktlcmd said:
Screen real estate invaded.
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Why do people want real VGA? It's because we value seeing more.
When we use a hardware keyboard, the biggest benefit is it leaves our screen completely available for the applications at all time. Software keyboard takes over some of the previous real estate. While we want large hitting area,we also at the same time want more screen space for the application, especially in landscape mode.
Can this contradiction be solved?
The most ideal keyboard would have a very low height but large hitting areas, yet having direct access to all alphas,numbers,and common punctuations.
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Here is a nice features: You can drag and drop the keyboard, on the left or right side, to change it's height. Basically you get as much screen space as you like. Or vice versa you can have a full screen keyboard.
There's a tutorial for this here:
http://www.fingertouchpro.com/index.php?section=home&video=6#videos
cktlcmd said:
Completeness of functions
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
The main things that I look for are:
- cut and copy, either using CTRL + XCV or special keys.
Both keyboards have CTRL keys, but Tengo also have special cut/copy/paste keys.
- delete last character or word.
Both keyboards can delete the last character, but Tengo can also delete the last word without needing to first highlight the word.
- Changing CAP for whole word or first character of word just typed.
In Finger Touch, you must decide to cap it BEFORE typing. In Tengo, you can do that, but additionally you can type first, then cap the first character or the entire word AFTER typing - I use this feature very often.
- completeness of symbols: while this may sound obvious and even taken for granted, there are keyboards out there with incomplete symbols. Happy Tapping keyboard does not have £ sign is an example.
Finger Touch has these [email protected]#$%^&*()/<>,.?`-=[]\;' ~_+{}|:"
Tengo has these symbols
@#$%^&()/<>,.?!+':"_ \` *¢ ;=[ ]{ } ~ £ ¥ € ± ^ ®© ™ |º § « » ¿¡ ¶ µ
These characters are in Tengo and not in FT:
'¢ £ ¥ € ± ^ ®© ™ º § « » ¿¡ ¶ µ
Every symbol in FT is also in Tengo.
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In FTPRO I found all the symbols I needed. Also, regarding special functions, you can do COPY (Control + C), CUT (Control + X), Paste (Control + V), but with FTPRO you can have even more:
- Select All (Control + A ) , I'm using this a lot
- UltraKeyboard. Now this is something not many people know about. Basically it's a macroing function, you can define short words, that can be used as triggers. Eg. typing the default !cap will do a screen capture. Or you can replace short words with phrases, eg: http1 with a web address, by doing so you won't have to remember address or even phone numbers, you can use these triggers to organize them all.
cktlcmd said:
- Support for accented words such as café, and the ease of doing it.
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The accents have been added in FTPRO.
cktlcmd said:
- multi language support.
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FTPRO supports English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Russian, Greek, and not only the accents/ special chars (cyrillic for russian) but also dicitionaries that allow you to use the fT9 in those languages.
Several languages can be customized , but I didn't find instructions on how to do that yet. I believe there should be a tutorial for that. Looking on the installed files, there is a folder called Layout with codes for Unicode characters. I think those can be changed to obtain different layouts.
cktlcmd said:
Ease of updating the dictionary
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Like it or not, the standard dictionary will not contain all the words you use.
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There a tutorial for this:
http://www.fingertouchpro.com/index.php?section=home&video=7#videos
So I think this gives a nice idea on why I'm using it. It simply does a lot, this reminds me I still need to configure several phone numbers to trigger them directly from FTPRO.
xda-addict said:
Fex, I'm sure this kind of language is not tolerated here, and may I suggest you get a check for anger control...
You can see that all my posts are following some other keyboard crap (TP).
I did this, because I need to show others that there are better alternatives, not to let themselves fooled by some cheap apps promovated on this forum.
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No anger here m8 just stating that your attempt at denial of affiliation is hardly believable.
As for tolerating my language im sure that others can see your attempt to take the "piss" and the your subsequent denial (that i still believe is full of "****") is worthy of dissing with a few minor curses.
xda-addict said:
So I think this gives a nice idea on why I'm using it. It simply does a lot, this reminds me I still need to configure several phone numbers to trigger them directly from FTPRO.
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Thank you for answering. I'll check it out later after I'm done fidling with SPB Mobile Shell to make it work with Real VGA at 96 dpi on the HTC Advantage. I appreciate it.
i've been trying to find how the FN key functions with the Universal, aside from getting the symbols ([email protected]#$%^&*()-+~/\"'?;: and menu and comm manager). i only came up with a few (it simulates some of the CTRL functions). would anyone be able to add to the list, as this may be useful? i can't find it in the manual, nor in the xda-dev search function.
btw, i've never figured what the SYM key (the one beside the SPACE bar) is for.... you might know
thanks!
FN Q = quit the application
FN W =
FN E = euro sign
FN R = right align
FN T =
FN Y = redo
FN U = underline
FN I = italic
FN O = /
FN P = \
FN A = select all
FN S =
FN D = pound sign
FN F = find
FN G =
FN H = delete the character at the left
FN J =
FN K = "
FN L = '
FN Z = undo
FN X = cut
FN C = copy
FN V = paste
FN B = bold
FN N =
FN M = ?
FN , = ;
FN . = :
FN 1 = !
FN 2 = @
FN 3 = #
FN 4 = $
FN 5 = %
FN 6 = ^
FN 7 = &
FN 8 = *
FN 9 = (
FN 0 = )
FN - = _
FN = = +
FN TAB = ~
FN SPACE = menu for CLEAR, SELECT ALL, PASTE, COPY, CUT, UNDO
FN right arrow = COMM MANAGER
nice list, good for you
SYM response
SYM is for accents
Tanks for sharing
FIXED!!
Hi
I found out which settings are required to fix this. Basically, edit input.ini, find the following under [browser widget] and change it as shown below:
Change:
Left = navigate left
Right = navigate right
Up = navigate up
Down = navigate down
to:
Left = Scroll left, 1
Right = Scroll right, 1
Up = Scroll up, 10
Down = Scroll down, 10
This must be what my old Voda X1 had as its default. For me, it makes the optical joystick useful again in Opera cause you can scroll around the whole page, rather than being restricted to navigating between links.
Don't forget the huge array of Opera options available on the config page (enter opera:config into the address bar). Most of these are explained here:
http://www.opera.com/support/usingopera/operaini/
http://files.myopera.com/ResearchWizard/files/Opera-Mobile.html?1227183542#inputini1
Nigel
Hi
Having sent back my vodafone X1, i now have an HTC X1, and am noting the differences between the two.
On the voda X1, the optical joystick could be used to scroll around a page (without highlighting any links).
On the HTC X1, the optical joystick works more like A 4 way tab button, the page moves, but the links keep getting highlighted.
The highlighting od the linka means that smooth scrolling does not happen.
Anyone know how to make opera behave like it did on the voda X1? i want my smooth scrolling back!
Nigel
My no brand italian X1 works like your "htc" x1.
In IE instead works like "vodafone" x1.
Start > settings > System > Optical Joystick > Allow scrolling iirc
nice hint! thx
Would be nice if it brought up a little mouse... it does this in Opera Mini (probably because Mini is made to have a mouse for all phones using the d-pad).
Hi
All the options under 'optical joystick' in settings are turned on. This does not enable me to pan around the page in opera like I used to be able to with my previous X1 - rather, the optical joystick just moves a highlight between the links on the page.
Previously the links on the page were ignored, and the joystick just moved the page about.
Basically it is now working like a cursor key rather than offering the ability to freely pan about the screen like before.
Must be a registry setting somewhere... either that, or the voda X1 that I had had a newer version of opera installed.
Pain in the arse whatever it is - I had gotten used to using the joystick, now I am back to flicking the screen with the stylus.
Nigel
Hi
Here ia my opera.ini can someone with a voda x1 or an x1 on which the joystick works properly in opera post theirs? you'll find it under application data.
Nigel
Opera Preferences version 2.1
; Do not edit this file while Opera is running
; This file is stored in UTF-8 encoding
[Install]
Preference URL=http://xml.opera.com/spoof/
Browser First Time Launch=0
[User Prefs]
Default URL=file://\Windows\Sony%20Ericsson%20start%20page\index.html
Ignore Unrequested Popups=1
Minimum Font Size=12
Help URL=\Application Data\Opera9\help\en\
Warn Insecure Form=0
Maximum Allowed Tabs=3
User JavaScript=1
Always load User JavaScript=1
UAProf URL=http://www.sonyericsson.com/downloads/X1i-1.0.xml
Home URL=about:blank
URL Type=2
Rendering mode=0
[Adv User Prefs]
Conn Mgr Auto Detect Network=1
[Cache]
Document=7000
Figure=3000
[Disk Cache]
Size=4000
[Security Prefs]
Enable SSL v2=1
Enable SSL v3=1
Enable TLS v1.0=1
Enable TLS v1.1=0
[File Types]
application/vnd.ms-powerpoint=4,\Windows\ppt.exe,,,ppt,|
application/sdp=3,\windows\StreamingPlayer.exe,,,sdp,|
application/x-sdp=3,\windows\StreamingPlayer.exe,,,sdp,|
application/x-rtsp=3,\windows\StreamingPlayer.exe,,,sdp,|
application/mheg=3,\windows\wmplayer.exe,,,mheg,|
application/rstl=3,\windows\wmplayer.exe,,,rstl,|
text/vnd.sun.j2me.app-descriptor=9,,,,jad,|
application/java-archive=9,,,,jar,|
audio/x-wav=0,,,,wav,|
audio/midi=0,,,,midi,|
audio/mid=0,,,,mid,|
audio/wav=0,,,,wav,|
audio/x-ms-wma=4,,,,wma,|
video/3gpp=1,,,,3gp,|
[File Types Extension]
application/vnd.ms-powerpoint=,0
application/mheg=,0
application/rstl=,0
application/sdp=,0
text/vnd.sun.j2me.app-descriptor=\windows\appdb\,2
application/java-archive=\windows\appdb\,2
[Adaptive Zoom]
Maximum Zoom=200
Minimum Zoom=150
Virtual Screen Width=960
[Trusted Protocols]
rtsp=1,0,
[Network]
Check Local HostName=1
Conn Mgr Auto Detect Network=1
UA Post Platform=PPC
[Colors]
Highlighted Background=#23dc23
Highlighted Text=#ffffff
From my UK Vodafone X1
Opera Preferences version 2.1
; Do not edit this file while Opera is running
; This file is stored in UTF-8 encoding
[Install]
Preference URL=http://xml.opera.com/spoof/
Browser First Time Launch=0
[User Prefs]
Default URL=http://live.vodafone.com
Ignore Unrequested Popups=1
Minimum Font Size=12
Help URL=\Application Data\Opera9\help\en\
Warn Insecure Form=0
Rendering Mode=0
Maximum Allowed Tabs=3
User JavaScript=1
Always load User JavaScript=1
Custom User-Agent=Vodafone/1.0/SEX1i/R1AA Opera/9.5 (Microsoft Windows; PPC; Opera Mobi/2141; U; UK) UP.Link/6.3.1.20.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1
UAProf URL=http://www.sonyericsson.com/downloads/X1i-1.0.xml
Home URL=http://www.bbc.co.uk/mobile/pda/index.shtml?
URL Type=1
[Adv User Prefs]
Conn Mgr Auto Detect Network=1
[Cache]
Document=7000
Figure=3000
[Disk Cache]
Size=10000
[Security Prefs]
Enable SSL v2=1
Enable SSL v3=1
Enable TLS v1.0=1
Enable TLS v1.1=0
[File Types]
application/vnd.ms-powerpoint=4,\Windows\ppt.exe,,,ppt,|
application/sdp=3,\windows\StreamingPlayer.exe,,,sdp,|
application/x-sdp=3,\windows\StreamingPlayer.exe,,,sdp,|
application/x-rtsp=3,\windows\StreamingPlayer.exe,,,sdp,|
application/mheg=3,\windows\wmplayer.exe,,,mheg,|
application/rstl=3,\windows\wmplayer.exe,,,rstl,|
text/vnd.sun.j2me.app-descriptor=9,,,,jad,|
application/java-archive=9,,,,jar,|
audio/x-wav=0,,,,wav,|
audio/midi=0,,,,midi,|
audio/mid=0,,,,mid,|
audio/wav=0,,,,wav,|
audio/x-ms-wma=4,,,,wma,|
video/3gpp=1,,,,3gp,|
[File Types Extension]
application/vnd.ms-powerpoint=,0
application/mheg=,0
application/rstl=,0
application/sdp=,0
text/vnd.sun.j2me.app-descriptor=\windows\appdb\,2
application/java-archive=\windows\appdb\,2
[Adaptive Zoom]
Maximum Zoom=200
Minimum Zoom=150
Virtual Screen Width=960
[Trusted Protocols]
rtsp=1,0,
[Network]
Check Local HostName=1
Conn Mgr Auto Detect Network=1
UA Post Platform=PPC
[Colors]
Highlighted Background=#23dc23
Highlighted Text=#ffffff
Hi
Thanks for that, unfortunately is it not a setting in that file. I have a suspicion that the setting I want is hiding away in input.ini - would you be able to paste the contents of this file (from a voda X1)?
Cheers
Nigel
I have a HTC X1 (unbranded) and the dpad it works both ways in Opera, though I did not really figure out when it scrolls and when it is in "cursor mode".
One thing is for sure: If there is one link framed (pre-selected), than the dpad works in cursor mode, if you tab on an area without any link then the dpad works in scroll mode - sometimes.
It's really a litte bit weired.
Wanted input.ini from Vodafone X1
Hi
Can someone post the contents of their input.ini file from a (UK) Vodafone X1
Application Data\Opera9\input.ini
Pretty Please?!
Nigel
Sorted!
Worked out how to do this, see updated post on first page
Nigel
Hi bro.
With your settings works, but also normal pad works with scroll. So no metod for select links as it is.
Indeed
I cant remember if on my vodafone, the d-pad still moved the cursor around the links or not. To be honest, I tend to tap the links.
Something is still different from my voda - on that, I could pan to the right hand side of the screen, and then scroll down, while keeping to the right hand side. With what I posted, the screen view moved back towards the left as you panned down.
If I could persuade someone with a (UK) vodafone Xperia to post their input.ini file it would save me guessing!
Nigel
veletron said:
Indeed
I cant remember if on my vodafone, the d-pad still moved the cursor around the links or not. To be honest, I tend to tap the links.
Something is still different from my voda - on that, I could pan to the right hand side of the screen, and then scroll down, while keeping to the right hand side. With what I posted, the screen view moved back towards the left as you panned down.
If I could persuade someone with a (UK) vodafone Xperia to post their input.ini file it would save me guessing!
Nigel
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Has the same problem, which keeps moving to left whenever moving up or down. So weird...
Thanks a lot for the tip on modifying the .ini file to make the optical pad navigate through the entire webpage rather than through the links. Makes the browsing experience a lot more pleasent. Now if only the would implement the formatting of text depending on how far in we zoom into the webpage like the Touch Pro...
From my branded Vodafone
Code:
[Button Widget]
Enter = Click button
Space = Click button
[Radiobutton Widget]
Space = Click button
[Checkbox Widget]
Space = Check item | Uncheck item
[Edit Widget]
Backspace = Backspace
Left = Previous character
Right = Next character
Left shift = Range previous character
Right shift = Range next character
Left ctrl = Previous word
Right ctrl = Next word
Left ctrl shift = Range previous word
Right ctrl shift= Range next word
Up = Previous line
Down = Next line | Show edit dropdown
Up shift = Range previous line
Down shift = Range next line
PageUp = Page up
PageDown = Page down
PageUp shift = Range page up
PageDown shift = Range page down
Home = Go to line start
End = Go to line end
Home shift = Range go to line start
End shift = Range go to line end
Home ctrl = Go to start
End ctrl = Go to end
Home ctrl shift = Range go to start
End ctrl shift = Range go to end
Del ctrl = Delete word
Backspace ctrl = Backspace word
z ctrl = Undo
y ctrl = Redo
z ctrl shift = Redo
a ctrl = Select all
b ctrl = Toggle style bold
i ctrl = Toggle style italic
u ctrl = Toggle style underline
Del = Delete
[Dropdown Widget]
Down alt = Show dropdown
Esc = Close dropdown
Right = Next item
Left = Previous item
Down = Next item
Up = Previous item
PageUp = Page up
PageDown = Page down
Home = Go to start
End = Go to end
[Browser Widget]
Tab = Focus next widget
Tab shift = Focus previous widget
Left Shift = Scroll left
Right Shift = Scroll right
Up Shift = Scroll up
Down Shift = Scroll down
Right = Navigate right
Left = Navigate left
Down = Navigate down
Up = Navigate up
PageUp = Page up
PageDown = Page down
Space = Page down
Home = Go to start
End = Go to end
Home ctrl = Go to start
End ctrl = Go to end
Esc = Stop
Enter = Activate element | Open link | Focus form | Click button
a ctrl = Select all
[Browser Window]
F1 = GOGI Command Menu or Cancel
F2 = GOGI Window Menu
F3 = GOGI Previous Page
F4 = GOGI Next Page
[Application]
Enter ctrl = Wand
GestureLeft = Back
GestureRight = Forward | Fast forward
GestureUp = Stop
GestureDown = New page
GestureDown, GestureRight = Close page
FlipBack = Back
FlipForward = Forward | Wand
n ctrl = New page
t ctrl = New page
w ctrl = Close page
F5 = Reload
Plus = Zoom in, 10
Plus ctrl = Zoom in, 100
Add ctrl = Zoom in, 100
- = Zoom out, 10
- ctrl = Zoom out, 100
Dec ctrl = Zoom out, 100
* = Zoom to, 100
z = Back
x = Forward
. = Find inline
F3 = Find next
F3 shift = Find previous
x ctrl = Cut
c ctrl = Copy
v ctrl = Paste
tab ctrl = Switch to next window
tab shift ctrl = Switch to previous window
Hi artesea
Cheers for posting that - its the same as in mine so it looks like the scrolling about on my old voda was not achieved by mods to input.ini performed by vodafone.
Guess I'll stick with that I have. Are you able to confirm that on your voda, like on my old one, the optical joystick lets you pan freely about the screen (w/o getting caught on links). I.e 'scrolling' rather than 'navigating' in Opera speak?
If so, when you scroll to the right hand side of a zoomed in page and then scroll down, does the view stay on the right, or does it revert back to the left as you scroll down?
Nigel
It's a UK Vodafone branded X1. When in Opera if I use to optical the page moves around in the direction I scroll. There is no panning to the left when moving down the right hand side of the page.
To move between links I can use the 4 way, although sometimes this doesn't work.
How do you open .ini files in X1?
I can't find any Text Editors. How about Word Mobile?
I had posted a thread asking for this and no one was able to help me , no biggie cause that gave me the initiative to do it myself and i somewhat succeeded . heres my findings ....
To keep the bottom buttons from waking the screen , simply edit two files ..
qwerty.kl and leo-keypad.kl found in the /System/usr/keylayout directory . MAKE A BACKUP BEFORE EDITING***
all you have to do is find the corresponding buttons and delete the WAKE or WAKE_DROPPED from the right column , to make it easier , ive posted the files below . The files i have edited only allow the end/power key to wake the device . just extract from the zip and paste it over the files in above directory . you must be using a root file browser , or use ADB .
Now my initial intensions were to disable all buttons since front facing buttons get pressed a lot when in pocket . And to have volume down button wake the screen . i added WAKE_DROPPED to the volume down button but it doesnt work . upon further googling i found this for another android kernel
Code:
/* gpio buttons from linux*/
static struct gpio_keys_button gpio_buttons[] = {
{
.gpio = S3C64XX_GPN(0),
.code = 116,
.desc = "ENDCALL",
.active_low = 1,
.wakeup = 0,
},
{
.gpio = S3C64XX_GPN(1),
.code = 139,
.desc = "MENU",
.active_low = 1,
.wakeup = 0,
},
{
.gpio = S3C64XX_GPN(2),
.code = 99,
.desc = "ROTATE",
.active_low = 1,
.wakeup = 0,
},
{
.gpio = S3C64XX_GPN(3),
.code = 102,
.desc = "HOME",
.active_low = 1,
.wakeup = 0,
},
{
.gpio = S3C64XX_GPN(4),
.code = 42,
.desc = "BACK",
.active_low = 1,
.wakeup = 0,
},
{
.gpio = S3C64XX_GPN(5),
.code = 158,
.desc = "BACK",
.active_low = 1,
.wakeup = 0,
}
};
My guessing is that the volume down button has a value of zero for .wakeup field . im trying to figure out how to edit this driver to allow volume down to wake up the device . the only draw back is you loose abbility to turn volume down while music is playing with the screen off . not a big loss if you ask me . if anyone knows how to edit the keyboard driver for our phones please feel free to help me
Why don't you just keep the volume keys the same, and turn off all but one of the bottom hard keys for wake up?
Like keep the home key for wake up on, and then there is only 1/5 of the chance to wake the phone in your pocket.
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But still good work!
kylew1212 said:
Why don't you just keep the volume keys the same, and turn off all but one of the bottom hard keys for wake up?
Like keep the home key for wake up on, and then there is only 1/5 of the chance to wake the phone in your pocket.
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But still good work!
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lol thast what i did , i left the "end/power" key wake the device for now . this is why i wanna extract and edit kernel drivers xP
elesbb said:
lol thast what i did , i left the "end/power" key wake the device for now . this is why i wanna extract and edit kernel drivers xP
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Oh! okay haha, maybe we can get that going tomorrow!
The question still remains.. how to edit the driver.:-(
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showlyshah said:
The question still remains.. how to edit the driver.:-(
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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I think I'll easily figure that out once I get to that point , one step at a time xP
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Rising from dead topic can someone tell me how to make only end call button to wake up phone ?
Thermaltake868 said:
Rising from dead topic can someone tell me how to make only end call button to wake up phone ?
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Funny I have been messing with that myself!
Open the folder mentioned in OP and depending on the rom installed the file you are looking for will be called something like "htcleo-keypad.kl" (this is what it is called for rom in my sig).
Then do as the op says, delete WAKE_DROPPED entries EXCEPT for the end call row.
Edit: @elesbb, did manage to get volume down button to function as power button. Now only key to wake device!
Disabled power button completely ,VOLUME_DOWN is now CALL button, all the rest the same.
ePSXe Emulator is working great with the Fire TV game controller. If you want to play games you will have to map the controller to work properly.
1. Tap Preferences
2. Tap Player 1
3. Select these settings:
Pad Type PSX = DualShock
Select Gamepad = Amazon Fire Game Controler
Player 1 map buttons:
Up, Down, Left, Right = DPAD UP, DOWN, LEFT, RIGHT
Select = MEDIA REWIND
Start = MEDIA FAST FORWARD
Triangle = BUTTON Y
Circle = BUTTON B
X = BUTTON A
Square = BUTTON X
L1 = BUTTON L1
L2 = AXIS BRAKE (L2 BUTTON)
R1 = BUTTON R1
R2 = AXIS GAS (R2 BUTTON)
Player 1 map axis:
Analog Range = Square
Left Stick X = AXIS_X
Left Stick Y = AXIS_Y
Right Stick X = AXIS_Z
Right Stick Y = AXIS_RZ
L2 Stick = AXIS_LTRIGGER
R2 Stick = AXIS_RTRIGGER
kevkranker said:
ePSXe Emulator is working great with the Fire TV game controller. If you want to play games you will have to map the controller to work properly.
1. Tap Preferences
2. Tap Player 1
3. Select these settings:
Pad Type PSX = DualShock
Select Gamepad = Amazon Fire Game Controler
Player 1 map buttons:
Up, Down, Left, Right = DPAD UP, DOWN, LEFT, RIGHT
Select = MEDIA REWIND
Start = MEDIA FAST FORWARD
Triangle = BUTTON Y
Circle = BUTTON B
X = BUTTON A
Square = BUTTON X
L1 = BUTTON L1
L2 = AXIS BRAKE (L2 BUTTON)
R1 = BUTTON R1
R2 = AXIS GAS (R2 BUTTON)
Player 1 map axis:
Analog Range = Square
Left Stick X = AXIS_X
Left Stick Y = AXIS_Y
Right Stick X = AXIS_Z
Right Stick Y = AXIS_RZ
L2 Stick = AXIS_LTRIGGER
R2 Stick = AXIS_RTRIGGER
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Works awesome with ps4 dualshock controller too. Stretch doesn't seem to ruin any video rendering stuff, and the other filters can all be enabled from what I can tell.
carbanm said:
Works awesome with ps4 dualshock controller too. Stretch doesn't seem to ruin any video rendering stuff, and the other filters can all be enabled from what I can tell.
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awesome can't wait to try it out
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does anyone know if reicast works on with fire tv?
I got it working also but their definately seems to be something funny with controller mapping. I had to leave mine on touch screen for my wired 360 controller to work. But it works at full speed and highest sound quality for FFVII. Haven't tested any other games yet.
I managed to side load epsxe but.... how do you upload the psx bios to it and iso's? I mean i have a usb hub and i have a usb drive installed but it wont see it. So how do you manage to upload the bios and iso files??
Ive got OI Filemanager sideloaded but its no help if i cant get the files uploaded to the device.
I kinda figured it out lol.
I had to fire up ADB then,
adb kill-server
adb start-server
adb connect 192.168.0.x (Whatever your Fire TV ip is)
<Fire TV Storage Path>
adb push c:\xxxxxx.bin /storage/sdcard0/epsxe/bios/
and then
adb push c:\xxxxx.iso /storage/sdcard0/epsxe/isos/
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I managed to side load epsxe but.... how do you upload the psx bios to it and iso's? I mean i have a usb hub and i have a usb drive installed but it wont see it. So how do you manage to upload the bios and iso files??
Ive got OI Filemanager sideloaded but its no help if i cant get the files uploaded to the device.
I kinda figured it out lol.
I had to fire up ADB then,
adb kill-server
adb start-server
adb connect 192.168.0.x (Whatever your Fire TV ip is)
<Fire TV Storage Path>
adb push c:\xxxxxx.bin /storage/sdcard0/epsxe/bios/
and then
adb push c:\xxxxx.iso /storage/sdcard0/epsxe/isos/
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You could always send using esfile explorer. Its a bit quicker.
bradr00lzd00d1 said:
You could always send using esfile explorer. Its a bit quicker.
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Hmm haven't used it before. Not sure how to use it lol.
bradr00lzd00d1 said:
You could always send using esfile explorer. Its a bit quicker.
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I used ESfile explorer also. Very simple. Just added my SMB share from my NAS and dropped the bios and games in there.
kevkranker said:
I used ESfile explorer also. Very simple. Just added my SMB share from my NAS and dropped the bios and games in there.
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Oh cool! So that's how it works! I'm defiantly going to check that app out now. I've been using IO File explorer for a long time. I guess its time to move on to bigger and better file managers!
SovereignKnight said:
Oh cool! So that's how it works! I'm defiantly going to check that app out now. I've been using IO File explorer for a long time. I guess its time to move on to bigger and better file managers!
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ES File explorer works well with firetv. :good:
NM lol. I figured it out.
kevkranker said:
ePSXe Emulator is working great with the Fire TV game controller. If you want to play games you will have to map the controller to work properly.
1. Tap Preferences
2. Tap Player 1
3. Select these settings:
Pad Type PSX = DualShock
Select Gamepad = Amazon Fire Game Controler
Player 1 map buttons:
Up, Down, Left, Right = DPAD UP, DOWN, LEFT, RIGHT
Select = MEDIA REWIND
Start = MEDIA FAST FORWARD
Triangle = BUTTON Y
Circle = BUTTON B
X = BUTTON A
Square = BUTTON X
L1 = BUTTON L1
L2 = AXIS BRAKE (L2 BUTTON)
R1 = BUTTON R1
R2 = AXIS GAS (R2 BUTTON)
Player 1 map axis:
Analog Range = Square
Left Stick X = AXIS_X
Left Stick Y = AXIS_Y
Right Stick X = AXIS_Z
Right Stick Y = AXIS_RZ
L2 Stick = AXIS_LTRIGGER
R2 Stick = AXIS_RTRIGGER
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Can you please explain the L2 and R2 buttons, i cant seem to figure those 2 out using my ps4 controller.
thnks
Developer is really cool for this too. Had some issues figuring out the problem with the triggers on the xbox 360 and he was quick with emails for almost a week and then we finally figured it out.
If you're using a 360 gamepad, do not set the controller to Dual Shock. You'll have to change it since the emulator does it automatically.
same problem
SovereignKnight said:
I managed to side load epsxe but.... how do you upload the psx bios to it and iso's? I mean i have a usb hub and i have a usb drive installed but it wont see it. So how do you manage to upload the bios and iso files??
Ive got OI Filemanager sideloaded but its no help if i cant get the files uploaded to the device.
I kinda figured it out lol.
I had to fire up ADB then,
adb kill-server
adb start-server
adb connect 192.168.0.x (Whatever your Fire TV ip is)
<Fire TV Storage Path>
adb push c:\xxxxxx.bin /storage/sdcard0/epsxe/bios/
and then
adb push c:\xxxxx.iso /storage/sdcard0/epsxe/isos/
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Hi ive got this same problem and its driving me nuts! ive spent a couple of days now trying to fix this. Ive got the epsxe installed on my fire tv and it loads perfectly but will not find any games or BIOS, even though i have pushed them several times. I know they are there because when i search for them using file manager they show up, however, and to my etreme frustration, they do not show up when i search for them using epsxe apk. Ive tryed exactly what was mentioned above and again they did not show up. PLEASE HELP!
To add i am having the same problem when using psx4droid
thanks
where do yousee those settings i installed epsxe on my amazon fire and it works but when i go to settings for the amazon controller it doesnt move
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kevkranker said:
ePSXe Emulator is working great with the Fire TV game controller. If you want to play games you will have to map the controller to work properly.
1. Tap Preferences
2. Tap Player 1
3. Select these settings:
Pad Type PSX = DualShock
Select Gamepad = Amazon Fire Game Controler
Player 1 map buttons:
Up, Down, Left, Right = DPAD UP, DOWN, LEFT, RIGHT
Select = MEDIA REWIND
Start = MEDIA FAST FORWARD
Triangle = BUTTON Y
Circle = BUTTON B
X = BUTTON A
Square = BUTTON X
L1 = BUTTON L1
L2 = AXIS BRAKE (L2 BUTTON)
R1 = BUTTON R1
R2 = AXIS GAS (R2 BUTTON)
Player 1 map axis:
Analog Range = Square
Left Stick X = AXIS_X
Left Stick Y = AXIS_Y
Right Stick X = AXIS_Z
Right Stick Y = AXIS_RZ
L2 Stick = AXIS_LTRIGGER
R2 Stick = AXIS_RTRIGGER
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when i click preferences the app shuts down on my amazon fire tv, how can i fix this
I can't remap my controller either. App crashes whenever I select Preferences, so I am stuck without a Start button. I've heard of people installing ePSXe on other Android devices and then importing the config data onto their Fire TV. My Fire TV is unrooted so there's no way for me to confirm if this method works.
My specs:
Device: Fire TV 2 (No root)
ePSXe: v1.9.39
Controller: Amazon Fire Game Controller
If anyone has figured out a fix for this, please keep us updated.
sneezing_corgi said:
I can't remap my controller either. App crashes whenever I select Preferences, so I am stuck without a Start button. I've heard of people installing ePSXe on other Android devices and then importing the config data onto their Fire TV. My Fire TV is unrooted so there's no way for me to confirm if this method works.
My specs:
Device: Fire TV 2 (No root)
ePSXe: v1.9.39
Controller: Amazon Fire Game Controller
If anyone has figured out a fix for this, please keep us updated.
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If you get the latest version from google play store (1.9.40) then it should solve this issue, that's what I had to do.
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kevkranker said:
ePSXe Emulator is working great with the Fire TV game controller. If you want to play games you will have to map the controller to work properly.
1. Tap Preferences
2. Tap Player 1
3. Select these settings:
Pad Type PSX = DualShock
Select Gamepad = Amazon Fire Game Controler
Player 1 map buttons:
Up, Down, Left, Right = DPAD UP, DOWN, LEFT, RIGHT
Select = MEDIA REWIND
Start = MEDIA FAST FORWARD
Triangle = BUTTON Y
Circle = BUTTON B
X = BUTTON A
Square = BUTTON X
L1 = BUTTON L1
L2 = AXIS BRAKE (L2 BUTTON)
R1 = BUTTON R1
R2 = AXIS GAS (R2 BUTTON)
Player 1 map axis:
Analog Range = Square
Left Stick X = AXIS_X
Left Stick Y = AXIS_Y
Right Stick X = AXIS_Z
Right Stick Y = AXIS_RZ
L2 Stick = AXIS_LTRIGGER
R2 Stick = AXIS_RTRIGGER
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To the OP, thanks for this, it really helped! I have one issue though, when running a game the nav pad doesn't work, I have to use the analog sticks to change direction - is there anyway I can get the nav pad to work? When I choose the dpad settings I always hit the nav pad but it only ever lets me use the analog stick. not sure what to do!
Thanks again.
Only problem I've had with this Is that when playing Papper the Rapper using my wired xbox 360 controller there is some lag In between pressing the buttons, anyone else getting any lag? With this game Or others?
After some messing around I found the following settings to work perfectly, allowing both the d-pad and analog stick to be in use during gameplay! I nearly gave up on this controller but it seems now to be perfect for what I want (epsxe). This is using the 2nd gen Fire TV (4K) and 2nd gen Fire game controller (without media controls). Hope this helps someone and thanks to the OP for putting me on the right path.
1. Tap Preferences
2. Tap Player 1
3. Select these settings:
Pad Type PSX = DualShock
Select Gamepad = Amazon Fire Game Controller
Player 1 map buttons:
Up, Down, Left, Right = DPAD UP, DOWN, LEFT, RIGHT
Select = BUTTON THUMBL - there is no media control on the 2nd gen pad so I use the analog sticks pressed down)
Start = BUTTON THUMBR
Triangle = BUTTON Y
Circle = BUTTON B
X = BUTTON A
Square = BUTTON X
L1 = BUTTON L1
L2 = AXIS BRAKE (L2 BUTTON)
R1 = BUTTON R1
R2 = AXIS GAS (R2 BUTTON)
Leave the rest unmapped apart from:
Mode = BACK
Player 1 map axis:
Analog Range = Square
Left Stick X = HAT_X
Left Stick Y = HAT_Y
Right Stick X = HAT_Z
Right Stick Y = HAT_RZ
L2 Trigger = AXIS_BRAKE
R2 Trigger = AXIS_GAS
Hat = AXIS_XY
Wireless XBOX 360 + Amazon Fire TV BOX
I know, I know, I'm very late on this subject...
I am struggling trying to use the Xbox 360 wireless controller with the USB Wireless Dongle on Fire TV Box 2015. All of the native android games on Fire TV work great with the controller, but I really want ePSXe Emulator to work right. It Doesn't.
The axis is still screwed up any way I map controllers, whether it be analog or digital. The games start & play as if R2 Trigger is being held in the whole time. Pretty annoying.
And the BIGGEST problem I have, is the START button! Damn, this is the most annoying part. Even if you map the controller to make the start button a different physical button on the remote, I cannot get "start" to work in any games. When I press START on the 360 controller it always brings up the emulators "home" menu. Every Time.
Anyone with knowledge on this subject is really welcome to respond and help out. I do appreciate it.