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so since apple released whatever 'iMessage' for all apple products and its exclusive and what not, and all blackberry devices have BBM, how much do you gander android will release its own form of IM within the coming months before the release of icecream sandwich?
revamp of G-Talk... maybe? LOL that thing seriously need a big overhaul anyway.
a penny for your thoughts?
I personally like the idea of GTalk how it is now. They could just make sure its installed on every phone and maybe even put it on the first screen.
I like having it cross-platform and even available on the desktop.
Most of my friends have Android now, so more and more people are moving to GTalk.
I wish they would come out with a better desktop client though that'll do video rather than relying on the web one.
I think GTalk should be a feature they advertise more. Its already available on every Android phone, uses push for 2.2+ and works really well.
It would be cool
I would like to see google sync google talk across devices. Not sure if it could kill off SMS like everyone thinks though.
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I would like to see google sync google talk across devices. Not sure if it could kill off SMS like everyone thinks though.
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The nice thing is that it uses Jabber, so there's lots of clients out there that will support it...all with their own feature sets. So its easily cross-platform, just not always the official app.
I think iMessage is going to be hugely popular as it looks like it's built right into the normal SMS messaging application in iOS and is going to be automaticly used any time you are sending a message to another iPhone user. Once people get used to using the combined messaging app, it's going to be nearly impossible to convince iPhone users to install a 3rd party chat app.
I now think it makes sense for RIM to open up BBM to other platforms, as they have the best chance of getting people to install their app, and if they are going to lose customers to iPhones and Androids (which is clearly happening), it would be in their best interest to at least keep them as BBM users.
Frankly, Google really dropped the ball by not seeing what a big problem all of these propietary chatting protocols are going to be for alternative mobile platforms. Many people in places like Canada (where blackberry and BBM are very popular) fear switching from blackberry as it means giving up all of your BBM contacts, and it's going to be the same thing for iPhone users soon. We needed an open spec protocol like XMPP to be the dominant protocol so that anyone can make a client for any device, but there are parts of Google Talk that just don't meet what people are looking for.
Google Talk needs at least the following, in my opinion:
- Remove the ability to log out
- Delivery (and maybe read) status for messages
- Improved group chat (currently the implementation is clumsy and inconsistent)
- Improved media transfers (photos and videos, but also contacts and locations)
- Combine SMS and Google Talk applications into one messaging super app, like iMessage.
The biggest problem with Google talk is its currently not widely available on every android phone.
Google doesn't need to revamp gtalk. It just needs to make Disco the default messaging program like Apple has done with iMessage. It would need to add MMS and remove the requirement for creating groups before sending messages but I can't imaging either would be too difficult to do before ICS is released.
http://techcrunch.com/2011/05/23/google-disco-2/
Been wishing this was in gtalk since 1.6. I dont think they need to combine it with the SMS app if they keep the green circle next the contacts name when they are signed on in Gtalk.
If they updated the BB and IOS apps to work with the new Gtalk apps it could dominate. But like google maps with navigation, they reserve group chats and video chatting to the web client and android users.
http://www.cultofmac.com/androids-going-to-help-apples-imessage-kill-off-sms/99831
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I think iMessage is going to be hugely popular as it looks like it's built right into the normal SMS messaging application in iOS and is going to be automaticly used any time you are sending a message to another iPhone user. Once people get used to using the combined messaging app, it's going to be nearly impossible to convince iPhone users to install a 3rd party chat app.
I now think it makes sense for RIM to open up BBM to other platforms, as they have the best chance of getting people to install their app, and if they are going to lose customers to iPhones and Androids (which is clearly happening), it would be in their best interest to at least keep them as BBM users.
Frankly, Google really dropped the ball by not seeing what a big problem all of these propietary chatting protocols are going to be for alternative mobile platforms. Many people in places like Canada (where blackberry and BBM are very popular) fear switching from blackberry as it means giving up all of your BBM contacts, and it's going to be the same thing for iPhone users soon. We needed an open spec protocol like XMPP to be the dominant protocol so that anyone can make a client for any device, but there are parts of Google Talk that just don't meet what people are looking for.
Google Talk needs at least the following, in my opinion:
- Remove the ability to log out
- Delivery (and maybe read) status for messages
- Improved group chat (currently the implementation is clumsy and inconsistent)
- Improved media transfers (photos and videos, but also contacts and locations)
- Combine SMS and Google Talk applications into one messaging super app, like iMessage.
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+1, I totally agree with you.
It really has to be promoted. I have a lot of friends with Android devices whom doesn't even know that Gtalk exists, it's a real pain. It needs the option to login with a kind of a "PIN" maybe just like RIM has.
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+1, I totally agree with you.
It really has to be promoted. I have a lot of friends with Android devices whom doesn't even know that Gtalk exists, it's a real pain. It needs the option to login with a kind of a "PIN" maybe just like RIM has.
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why use a pin though? that just creates more hassle for everyone. why not just tell them to add your gaccount which has everything integrated... your number/whatever you want to share.
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why use a pin though? that just creates more hassle for everyone. why not just tell them to add your gaccount which has everything integrated... your number/whatever you want to share.
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Because as I can see, some of my friends with an Android device don't even use Gmail accounts, and there's when the problem using Gtalk begin!
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Because as I can see, some of my friends with an Android device don't even use Gmail accounts, and there's when the problem using Gtalk begin!
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Fair enough...but then are you telling me they aren't downloading any apps from the market then? And thus not optimizing the android system already? Because if they can access the market they should be able to use g chat ...
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For it to work, any message system has to integrate with the default messaging app. Otherwise, it will be a failure. Apple did get iMessage right by integrating it with the sms app and make using it automatic (without any user input to setup).
^wait, so how does the phone know if the receiver is an iOS user and that the receiver has an internet connection? For iPads, there are no phone numbers associated with the devices. So how does iMessage integrate with the SMS app?
Currently you can see if the person is on gtalk in the SMS app by a green dot next to their name. That seems perfectly fine by me.
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^wait, so how does the phone know if the receiver is an iOS user and that the receiver has an internet connection? For iPads, there are no phone numbers associated with the devices. So how does iMessage integrate with the SMS app?
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Actually, even iPad 3G users have a phone number (it just isn't visible to the user). My guess is it will do contact matching (which will check the contact's email against itunes accounts and the phone number). The phone number will probably be automatically registered to your account when you login to your phone with your itunes account. So it isn't hard to do that simple matching.
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Currently you can see if the person is on gtalk in the SMS app by a green dot next to their name. That seems perfectly fine by me.
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Which sms app? I don't see any green dots (or spaces for them) in the default app, or handcent.
I'm on CM7. Is this a feature in stock roms?
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Actually, even iPad 3G users have a phone number (it just isn't visible to the user). My guess is it will do contact matching (which will check the contact's email against itunes accounts and the phone number). The phone number will probably be automatically registered to your account when you login to your phone with your itunes account. So it isn't hard to do that simple matching.
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But what if I switch between iphones and other phones all the time?
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Which sms app? I don't see any green dots (or spaces for them) in the default app, or handcent.
I'm on CM7. Is this a feature in stock roms?
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You can see who's online on Gtalk on the stock contact list.
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You can see who's online on Gtalk on the stock contact list.
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Yep, you can. But the contact list isn't an sms app
I want to let family and friends use my Fire but do not want them buying anything, is there an app lock that will work with the fire. Thanks.
Not that I'm aware of. I would guess you would have to log into the amazon account tied to the Kindle and disable/remove all forms of payment.
I know my wife hadn't set up her new credcard, all the old ones were in so she couldn't even download "free" apps since you still need to buy them.
On that note, I hate email spam everytime I "buy" free stuff.
so far the only thing i have found is to have my "one click" goto a empty prepaid card... then if someone tries to buy something it goes to my email saying that it failed and then i can (if its something i want) click in the email... sign in though my phone and change the payment to another card i have saved in amazon.
if you want to block total access including free apps i use the "app protector" and there is a free version in the amazon market for 7 day trial.
The best option that I see is to what was mentioned using a prepaid credit card. I use that with a lot of things of this nature. That way these companies get what they want (my credit card), and I am at a basic no risk situation because there is no money on it for them to take. A good example was when DirecTV said I didn't return a box on time and they tried to take hundreds of dollars out of my account without notice.
That being said I know Amazon wants us to buy buy buy, but the kindle is a great option for kids. No parent wants their child to one click access to their credit card.
This is the only thing I've found. You can pick & choose what they have access to. I wish you could disable one-click on certain devices!!
http://www.amazon.com/Kids-Place-Wi...1?ie=UTF8&s=mobile-apps&qid=1322925966&sr=1-1
Hi all. I'm looking for some advice. After 3 months with my C60 N7 16gb and constantly having to close notifications from my daughter's games, I decided to get her one of her own (she wanted a leap pad)... actually I am got 32gb C90K N7 and am giving her the 16gb.
Should I set up her own gmail/Google account or is it easier to just have another device on my account? Safer / more secure? What are the pros and con's?
I figure I will install SmartApp protector so she can't get to internet without asking, and Pin on the Play store for purchases (if she figures out how to clear cache and data to bypass/erase the Pon, she earned the game!).
She likes zoodles and has a handful of other games etc.
What else should I be looking into regarding management of content, etc? Are there any apps that I can monitor her activity from my N7? Other safety or utility things I should consider? In the event if loss, should I install some sort of remote wipe App?
From a case standpoint, I think I will get her one like mine (CrazyOnDigital rotating leatherr folio). She likes it, it is inexpensive and functional. I looked at the Naabi Bumper... Definitely more study but so bulky. I might try to find something like the portable DVD player case for it so she can Carey charger and stilts to between home and her mom's house.
Thoughts and advice are welcome.
Time to go root and unlock my N7 and play...
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1.) you can always block notifications for specific apps in 'app info' (long click on notification, it'll take you there)
2.) I honestly don't see a reason why you wouldn't make her her own account. Your account probably has credit card stored it, which she could use accidentally (you know, to feed Talking Tom ).
In play store, you can set content filtering, if you're rooted, do go ahead and install adfree (if you haven't already), so it blocks annoying adds (most of them with adult content).
There's soooo many parental apps on play store, that you should just go trough them and see which does what.
http://www.wikihow.com/Block-Porn-on-Android
here's an useful link
I don't know much about users, but can you make the second user account have less privileges? Like on Windows (admin, user) or linux (root, user)
About pros/cons of using the same account:
- she can access your data (gmail, contacts, talk...) you'd need to disable or password protect all those apps, even if you disable notifications
+ you can access her data (but it will merge with yours)
using her own account:
+ she'll use gmail eventually, might as well have it already
+ you can easily follow her location with latitude (but I wouldn't let her take tablet to school anyway, so doesn't really make a difference)
+ you can send her pretty pictures by gmail and google talk to her, if you so choose (when you're away for few days on a trip for example) - I don't think you can google talk to yourself
+ no worries with using your credit card
+ if she google talks to someone, you won't get all the notifications on your tablet as well
I think there's enough monitoring apps on play store that you can easily let her use her own account, if you trust her of course.
And an honest conversation about responsibility isn't out of place. I'm sure she will understand and also appreciate you trusting her, and she'll have something completely hers.
Of course, you can always go on play.google.com to check what apps she's installing, log in into chrome with her account to see history and bookmarks, see her gmail... You know, to check that someones not harassing here, no other reason
I asked a similar question as both daughters getting them for Xmas ,don't mind them having there own account just want any downloads from play store to request a password first and with set age restricted content in play store.
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Starting February 1st 2013, Windows Phone users won't be able to create full Gmail accounts on Windows Phone. Does Microsoft have a plan?
This afternoon Google has announced the discontinuation of their support of Exchange ActiveSync (EAS aka the standard for many who use email) after January 30th 2013. The question you may be wondering is, how does it affect Windows Phone?
More here from Windows Phone Central http://www.wpcentral.com/google-drops-exchange-activesync-what-s-it-mean-windows-phone
Is this going to affect you ? I sync email, contacts and calendar from google so will this be shut off to existing users who are already setup at the end of January ?
I don't really want to move all my gmail stuff which is work related to microsoft, and I also don't want to give up my 820 so this has thrown a spanner in the works for me.
This means:
1. If you already have your Gmail account set up as a Exchange ActiveSync account on February 1st, it will continue to work for you.
2. If you try to add a new Gmail account (or delete your existing one and try to re-add it, or get a new phone/device/tablet) after February 1st, you will no longer be able to connect it as an Exchange ActiveSync account, which means no tasks, calendar, and contacts.
3. Calendar sync has already been disabled, so if you try to add a Gmail account and sync your Calendar to your phone as of yesterday, it will no longer sync your Calendar.
4. You can still connect your Gmail e-mail using IMAP or POP3, so mail will continue to function after February 1st. Though you may have to recreate your account so that it works properly.
5. This affects any device that uses Exchange ActiveSync as a way to sync information through Google. So not just Windows Phone, but Microsoft Outlook, some older Nokia and Sony devices, other random devices/phones.
Ah thanks
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If you are using Google Apps and hosting a custom domain, nothing should change for you. As far as I know, even Calendar sync still works. However, Google Apps no longer offers a free version, that happened about two weeks ago, most likely in preparation for killing off EAS.
A few months ago this would have really irked me, but when I decided to try Outlook.com, it won me over. More importantly, thanks to Microsoft's free Live Domains hosting service, I've moved all my private, custom domains over to use Outlook.com as the default provider.
It's a safe bet that Microsoft will never discontinue support for Exchange Activesync, so I'm actually really happy. Plus, the deep integration with SkyDrive and other MS services means, simply enough, that I don't really give a **** what Google does anymore. I don't use their mediocre online office tools, nor their Drive service, nor their excellent but ultimately irrelevant in the face of Nokia, maps service. On top of that, the TubePro app for WP8 is far superior to the Google provided Youtube app on iOS or Android, so again, I'm not at all worried.
Windows phone 8 doesn't *need* Google.
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A few months ago this would have really irked me, but when I decided to try Outlook.com, it won me over. More importantly, thanks to Microsoft's free Live Domains hosting service, I've moved all my private, custom domains over to use Outlook.com as the default provider.
It's a safe bet that Microsoft will never discontinue support for Exchange Activesync, so I'm actually really happy. Plus, the deep integration with SkyDrive and other MS services means, simply enough, that I don't really give a **** what Google does anymore. I don't use their mediocre online office tools, nor their Drive service, nor their excellent but ultimately irrelevant in the face of Nokia, maps service. On top of that, the TubePro app for WP8 is far superior to the Google provided Youtube app on iOS or Android, so again, I'm not at all worried.
Windows phone 8 doesn't *need* Google.
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OOH, wow, I didn't know they offered that for free, I was about to buy an exchange email thru rackspace! Might have to give that a go.
jasongw said:
A few months ago this would have really irked me, but when I decided to try Outlook.com, it won me over. More importantly, thanks to Microsoft's free Live Domains hosting service, I've moved all my private, custom domains over to use Outlook.com as the default provider.
It's a safe bet that Microsoft will never discontinue support for Exchange Activesync, so I'm actually really happy. Plus, the deep integration with SkyDrive and other MS services means, simply enough, that I don't really give a **** what Google does anymore. I don't use their mediocre online office tools, nor their Drive service, nor their excellent but ultimately irrelevant in the face of Nokia, maps service. On top of that, the TubePro app for WP8 is far superior to the Google provided Youtube app on iOS or Android, so again, I'm not at all worried.
Windows phone 8 doesn't *need* Google.
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Could I please ask something about the Live Domains thing. What sort of control do you get on top of a normal Outlook.com account? Can you switch off ads like with a Google Apps account? I have a free Apps account right now and not sure whether to pay for it or move to an Outlook.com account and switch my domain over to Microsoft.
Http://domains.live.com to sign up.
What you get when you setup your domains for the Outlook.com servers, which is fairly simple (it involves proving domain ownership via DNS TXT record creation, and assigning new MX records to point to Microsoft's servers), is basic but robust. You can't turn off ads, but what you can do is create as many free email accounts as you want. Each is an official "Microsoft Account," which means of course that you get the same access to SkyDrive, office web apps, People (for contacts), Calendar, and so on, all wrapped in the sexy new UI. As the admin, you do have access to delete these user accounts, so ideally you won't be a **** to those you give accounts to .
If you want, you can also give away free email accounts on your domains. The first 500 are automatic and free, after that you have to ask them to up your limit, but it's still free (not sure if there's an upper limit, but it's something I'd like to test .
The Outlook.com UI of course offers gobs of advanced filtering options that are user manageable.
Screenshot of the main Control Panel UI attached. There are several more pages of options I didn't show because of course they have personal data, but suffice to say there are a fair few options. Plus, you can do co-branding if you want, which is slick in and of itself.
Now that I think of it...I need to set something up for that
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Could I please ask something about the Live Domains thing. What sort of control do you get on top of a normal Outlook.com account? Can you switch off ads like with a Google Apps account? I have a free Apps account right now and not sure whether to pay for it or move to an Outlook.com account and switch my domain over to Microsoft.
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Awesome reply. Thanks.
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Google will be removing Google sync support for WP. They called it "Winter Cleaning".
So Google contacts and Calender sync will not be available.
I say, if Google is rejecting WP, then Why doesn't Microsoft STOP Android OEMs from using Microsoft's PATENTS. Those Patents for which Android OEMs need to pay to Microsoft for every Android device they sale.
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Apourv said:
Google will be removing Google sync support for WP. They called it "Winter Cleaning".
So Google contacts and Calender sync will not be available.
I say, if Google is rejecting WP, then Why doesn't Microsoft STOP Android OEMs from using Microsoft's PATENTS. Those Patents for which Android OEMs need to pay to Microsoft for every Android device they sale.
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because that there is more income than all of windows phone
Win.
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Hate it when companies stop providing features just to push themselves and make other services/companies look bad.
Google's been a **** to Microsoft for a while now. Google pushes the abysmal mobile site that works on my ancient Nokia 5200, instead of the nice version to iOS and Android, to WinPhone7, the Youtube app is ridiculous, no maps. I bet Microsoft is a **** to Google too, but this whole thing sucks.
So then Microsoft goes around and doesn't give Google+ any love (Google+ is still trying to force me to use it, but I wont have any of it.)
Google's increasingly getting on my nerves and being more and more pushy, like a stalker. Reading my mail to push me ads, saving my searches to push me ads, it's just pissing me off. It's been consistently useless for all except domain name searching (For eg. if I want to find the official site for a product). Bing needs to up it's game so I can move to an alternative.
Apple is a master at this game too - they don't want to improve their touch APIs for WebKit, or make it open. They wont show any love to Microsoft's alternative touch API which even Chrome and Firefox people are supporting.
I'm trolling google everyday by using adblock.
Yeah, in 2013 ppl still don't know that such a tool exists...ffs
mcosmin222 said:
I'm trolling google everyday by using adblock.
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that's a big 10-4....
As far as "reading my email" goes, anyone that isn't encrypting their emails is fooling themselves if there is any belief it is private, at any point along the intraweeb.
To support google's ecosystem, which MS will have to if they want to be competitive, they will need to adopt CalDAV and CardDAV, which is no bad thing because it gives us consumers choice.
The days of pushing proprietary technologies are, thankfully, over.
But how are consumers affected by these kind of technologies? It is not as obvious as using WP over android, or the other way around.
Microsoft exchange is still used by the overwhelming majority of people on this planet. Pretty much every single email service, apart from the one provided by Google and some business specific emails, uses this system. Almost every single email user on the planet has another email address than google.
Google is just afraid of microsoft cutting their services, that's all.
As a email user of this planet, I could not care less what technology lies behind my email address. It could MS exchange, it could be google's new framework. I don't care. And why? because the end result is basically the same: I can check my email address.
On the other hand, dropping support of such services disrupts my ability to check my email from my WP, for example. Now what? I don't see any benefit from that, only more tiresome things to do. Will I see Windows Phone as the problem? Hell no!. Google will be my problem. Will I drop google services? very likely.
Just as a side-note, the only google service is use is their search, because bing is nowhere near as powerful in my region.
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But how are consumers affected by these kind of technologies? It is not as obvious as using WP over android, or the other way around.
Microsoft exchange is still used by the overwhelming majority of people on this planet. Pretty much every single email service, apart from the one provided by Google and some business specific emails, uses this system. Almost every single email user on the planet has another email address than google.
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Eh, no. This is completely wrong. Exchange is but no means used by 'the overwhelming majority of people'. In business maybe, consumers no way.
Google have over 425 million users on gmail, Yahoo over 310 million and most people use either IMAP or POP3. Very, very few consumers are willing to pay for exchange.
uuh. You;re right, I was thinking about something else lol.
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You said...
To support google's ecosystem, which MS will have to if they want to be competitive, they will need to adopt CalDAV and CardDAV, which is no bad thing because it gives us consumers choice.
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How is this favoring the customers? My point is, if google is doing something to break what it is working, how will this be beneficial for users?
There are so many alternatives in the play store, but sticking to the question, what do you all use, or would you use if you had to choose between the two, on your Galaxy S8/+
Samsung Messages -or- Android Messages
Samsung Internet -or- Google Chrome
Samsung Calendar -or- Google Calendar
Samsung Calculator -or- Google Calculator
Samsung Email -or- Gmail/Inbox
Samsung Clock -or- Google Clock
Samsung Notes/Reminder -or- Google Keep
Samsung Touchwiz -or- Google Now Launcher
Samsung Health -or- Google Fit
Samsung Pay -or- Android Pay
The only Samsung apps I use are Internet, Clock and Phone. I prefer Google apps for sms messages, calendar, notes (Keep), and contactless payments. I use Nova Launcher with a Pixel theme. For email I prefer Blue Mail since it looks and works so much better than Samsung email or GMail.
Now that you put this in perspective, I just realized that I feel that MOST Samsung Apps are superior to the Google Apps, when I use a Samsung phone like I'm doing now with the S8+ I use ALL of them except Samsung Email and simply because they haven't added the option to be able to delete the emails from the Notification shade or the lockscreen, I have reported this a couple of times now and I hope they do it, I'm having sync issues with gmail from quite some time now (I'm not the only one as I can see on the forums), it comes and goes, but it's getting into my nerves already, and with the huge amount of emails I receive daily because of my work, I can't keep going to the app to delete them. But again, for the rest, I always use all that you mentioned here except email. When I use other manufacturer then I use ALL Google.
Internet - lightning fast, adblockers and Biometrics for passwords (I can sync my Chrome Desktop Bookmarks with their extension)
Calendar - Simply great, easy to use and even easier at some tasks.
Email - Even when I don't use it, I haven't had any issues with sync even when Gmail is, plus it reads my email just like a SMS when in my car. Great for their Ecosystem and Gear S3 specifically.
Notes - I use Evernote most of the time but when I don't want to, I've been passing my Galaxy Notes' Notes through the years and they sync perfectly even with Evernote.
Samsung Health - This one is just not fair, how limited Google and Apple's implementations are, sure they have a lot of connections with some apps, but SHealth out of the box and its own add-ons is simply a great and complete health tool.
Samsung Pay - In my case, with all my cards accepted by Samsung Pay, it can't be a single reason why I may choose Android Pay over Samsung Pay, Tap to Pay works basically the same PLUS the MST on the Samsung Pay is the *hit.
About launcher, I don't like Google Launcher and I've used Nova for years now, I've been giving the new Touchwiz a break in the past couple of days, and I like it but still miss my Nova Gestures a lot. One option I prefer Google over Samsung is the keyboard, currently using Gboard, Samsung keyboard is disabled.
All of the above of course are my opinions...Just in case
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There are so many alternatives in the play store, but sticking to the question, what do you all use, or would you use if you had to choose between the two, on your Galaxy S8/+
Samsung Messages -or- Android Messages
Samsung Internet -or- Google Chrome
Samsung Calendar -or- Google Calendar
Samsung Calculator -or- Google Calculator
Samsung Email -or- Gmail/Inbox
Samsung Clock -or- Google Clock
Samsung Notes/Reminder -or- Google Keep
Samsung Touchwiz -or- Google Now Launcher
Samsung Health -or- Google Fit
Samsung Pay -or- Android Pay
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erasat said:
Now that you put this in perspective, I just realized that I feel that MOST Samsung Apps are superior to the Google Apps, when I use a Samsung phone like I'm doing now with the S8+ I use ALL of them except Samsung Email and simply because they haven't added the option to be able to delete the emails from the Notification shade or the lockscreen, I have reported this a couple of times now and I hope they do it, I'm having sync issues with gmail from quite some time now (I'm not the only one as I can see on the forums), it comes and goes, but it's getting into my nerves already, and with the huge amount of emails I receive daily because of my work, I can't keep going to the app to delete them. But again, for the rest, I always use all that you mentioned here except email. When I use other manufacturer then I use ALL Google.
Internet - lightning fast, adblockers and Biometrics for passwords (I can sync my Chrome Desktop Bookmarks with their extension)
Calendar - Simply great, easy to use and even easier at some tasks.
Email - Even when I don't use it, I haven't had any issues with sync even when Gmail is, plus it reads my email just like a SMS when in my car. Great for their Ecosystem and Gear S3 specifically.
Notes - I use Evernote most of the time but when I don't want to, I've been passing my Galaxy Notes' Notes through the years and they sync perfectly even with Evernote.
Samsung Health - This one is just not fair, how limited Google and Apple's implementations are, sure they have a lot of connections with some apps, but SHealth out of the box and its own add-ons is simply a great and complete health tool.
Samsung Pay - In my case, with all my cards accepted by Samsung Pay, it can't be a single reason why I may choose Android Pay over Samsung Pay, Tap to Pay works basically the same PLUS the MST on the Samsung Pay is the *hit.
About launcher, I don't like Google Launcher and I've used Nova for years now, I've been giving the new Touchwiz a break in the past couple of days, and I like it but still miss my Nova Gestures a lot. One option I prefer Google over Samsung is the keyboard, currently using Gboard, Samsung keyboard is disabled.
All of the above of course are my opinions...Just in case
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Yea man I feel torn apart by it all. This is what I use & feel about everything:
Samsung Internet: Much better than chrome with the included biometric scanning, ad block, and bookmark synchronization.
Samsung Email: Already integrates with Gmail should you decide to use your Gmail account. Meant for the S8
Samsung Calculator: Unit conversion and meant for the S8 with the infinity display
Samsung Clock: Meant for the S8
Samsung Keyboard: As much as I would like to use all-things-Samsung, I also swapped this out for the Google Keyboard. Gboard recognizes my swipes better. However Samsung recognizes that when I'm about to login into a site/app via email, it automatically populates my email as a keyword shortcut. Saves the time in typing out the entire email address.
Samsung Health: instant winner. No brainer
Samsung Pay: can be used basically everywhere. No brainer.
Samsung Notes/Reminder: I don't use this at all. I'm heavily invested into Google Keep, but there's no way to integrate Google Keep with the Samsung features, and the Samsung Reminders with Google Keep.
Samsung Launcher: I use the stock infinity launcher.
Samsung Messages: I love the unread notification icons and how the messenger is designed for the S8. I however don't like that voice recorded messages from the default app isn't supported by other Messengers, whereas Android messages has a couple more added features, that are support by more if not all phones and OS's, like gif images and location sharing.
I must be the only person that prefers chrome over the samsung broswer! I just think chrome looks so much better and its easier to use although admittedly i use chrome on my mac aswell so perhaps iam just so used to chrome that i find it hard to switch!! Not a massive fan of the stock email app but it does the job so its not a biggie for me! For the keyboard i use swiftkey simply because it knows me so well at this stage basically ha The samsung keyboard is great though. Stock messaging app is something i have never used on any phone and always opt for Textra but iam so far happy with the stock messaging app on the S8 and will continue using it for now!!
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Yup, contacts, browser, calendar, phone, messages, mail and lauuncher - all by Samsung.
From Google? I prefer photos over samsung gallery.
Bixby? Never, but also not Google assistant, not an ai person...
I think, the quality of Samsung apps has improved immensely, really like them now.
Two things to consider - the quality of the apps and how you feel about having your personal information sold to marketers for cash.
On the quality side I like Samsung's apps and they are well integrated with the UI and each other. I particularly like e-mail (I use Exchange), calendar, contacts, Internet, and gallery. All of those are backed up to Samsung Cloud which allows you to share them across Samsung devices (I have four besides my phone). You can get 50GB of storage for $.99 a month vs. the 15GB free provided. I like Samsung Cloud because of its tight integration. Your photos are virtually managed across all your devices so if I take a picture on my phone it appears in the gallery of my tablets. I love Scrapbook for grabbing business and personal things I want to save off the Internet and S Note for taking notes on my tablets and having them show up dynamically on my phone and PC. There's also a cool app called Cloud Together that allows you to have the files on your device shown side-by-side with all the popular cloud storage products. You can even have one cloud storage product shown side-by-side with another (EG: Dropbox<>OneDrive) to move files between them or your phone. Lastly, if you use a Gear (I do) you give up a ton of functionality when you don't use Samsung's native apps.
As for Google's apps, I'm not a fan. I don't think their designs and interfaces are that hot. But ultimately everything Google provides is done so for one reason only - to collect your data and sell it. Not only do I not use Google's apps I either uninstall or disable them. I'm kind of pissed because as of recently you can't use Android Auto without Google Music and Assistant enabled with all their location and awareness features active. Oh well, I need Android Auto more than I care about my data being harvested.
For some it's "pure Android" or bust and for others variety is good. To each their own.
This is a great thread, though admittedly I'm coming to it late in the game. I have long been a stock android kind of guy before coming to the Galaxy S8+. Suffice it to say, I stuck with the stock Google apps in the beginning. However, one week in, I'm slowly realizing that Samsung has done a really good job in some places. The browser is the best mobile browser I have ever used (chrome, brave, dolphin, link bubble, etc). The calculator is excellent. The alarm clock is fine, but I do prefer google's time selection method.
Meanwhile, I don't use Samsung or Google's keyboard; I use Swiftkey...and really miss Fleksy.
Google's calendar is vastly better. I love the way it populates locations.
Todoist is my task list. Their management is excellent but it's not free.
Evernote wines for a notepad.
Surprisingly mostly Samsung for me.
I use inbox for private mail and Samsung email for work mail. Switched from chrome to Samsung browser and am really happy with it.
I always use nova, because neither gnow not Sam's uh Ng provide the features.
All other apps I use stock samung. And they work really well.
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You can get 50GB of storage for $.99 a month vs. the 15GB free provided.
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I'm also a big fan of Samsung's Cloud, but I haven't been able to figure out how to increase my storage above the 15GB. What's the trick? I'm using a Note 8 (and was using an S8 before), and have never been able to find the option enabled in my Manage Cloud setting. Thanks in advance!
If I wanted to use Android apps I'd have gotten a pixel...
Samsung apps also offer more features and conform to installed themes instead of their own bright whites and random colors.