or should we use KFU 0.9. I ask because IMHO, this forum has the most confusing series of threads on rooting/recovery/TWRP installation that I have ever read.
Without meaning to be disrespectful to the valiant efforts of the devs, I informally count at least ten times the number of posts stating issues as for successes and every time I check, there is yet another "method" for unbricking or installing, etc...particularly for the notorious yellow triangle.
Could one or more mods please clean up this forum to provide a guiding light.
BurritoRoot is the only software root method available, so yeah, it's relevant. KFU uses it to perform the root, it doesn't have its own exploit or rooting method. It was created to make common tasks more convenient, so it compiles all kinds of different functions into one application. There's nothing in KFU that can't also be done manually (as far as I know), but it can sure makes things a hell of a lot faster.
kfu .9 seems to have a serious problem with the recovery image that is part of the zipped file. It is an 8 kb file. It is the wrong file. The correct file is 10,624 kb.
If you are going to use the script, then for goodness sakes copy the proper .img file into the Recovery directory. If you need help finding it, it's at:
http://teamw.in/project/twrp2
I agree 100% the kindle fire forum needs better flow and direction showing people exactly what needs to be done if you want to root and flash Roms on a brand new fire. I see things like burritoroot, twrp, kindle fire utility v.9 , ext... what do we do first?
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You do realize that the kindlefire utility is just a script which grabs the various pieces to do the rooting?
In the batch file (which makes up the kindlefire utility)
Code:
set twrpurl="http://techerrata.com/file/twrp2/twrp-blaze-2.0.0RC0.img"
Which IS the correct twrp install image...
Also, the website for the TWRP project was down a lot of the day, so perhaps you tried it when it was down and got a truncated corrupt file?
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or should we use KFU 0.9. I ask because IMHO, this forum has the most confusing series of threads on rooting/recovery/TWRP installation that I have ever read.
Without meaning to be disrespectful to the valiant efforts of the devs, I informally count at least ten times the number of posts stating issues as for successes and every time I check, there is yet another "method" for unbricking or installing, etc...particularly for the notorious yellow triangle.
Could one or more mods please clean up this forum to provide a guiding light.
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Videos or links to videos would be tits too!
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I agree with the others as far as the rooting of the Fire has become mass confusion. Ever since 6.2.1, there has been no "sure way" of rooting this firmware. There are several "guides" and "official ....", and personally, I'm not sold on any of them.
I was rooted prior to the 6.2.1 update, and I'll stay unrooted until a new root procedure is given that has a better success rate than the other 10 procedures posted.
Personally, I think only a MODERATOR should be able to title a thread as "Official".
This is my official opinion.
YMark said:
I agree with the others as far as the rooting of the Fire has become mass confusion. Ever since 6.2.1, there has been no "sure way" of rooting this firmware. There are several "guides" and "official ....", and personally, I'm not sold on any of them.
I was rooted prior to the 6.2.1 update, and I'll stay unrooted until a new root procedure is given that has a better success rate than the other 10 procedures posted.
Personally, I think only a MODERATOR should be able to title a thread as "Official".
This is my official opinion.
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Burrito root works perfectly fine, what're you talking about
YMark said:
I agree with the others as far as the rooting of the Fire has become mass confusion. Ever since 6.2.1, there has been no "sure way" of rooting this firmware. There are several "guides" and "official ....", and personally, I'm not sold on any of them.
I was rooted prior to the 6.2.1 update, and I'll stay unrooted until a new root procedure is given that has a better success rate than the other 10 procedures posted.
Personally, I think only a MODERATOR should be able to title a thread as "Official".
This is my official opinion.
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You are mistaken, BurritoRoot is a sure way of rooting it, it is 100% effective at what it does. It restarts adbD as root.
It is an official thread, as it's mine, and I wrote the damn thing. Other people were making threads about it. I asked a moderator to sticky it so people would stop using the threads started by un-associated people.
As far as 10 procedures, I have only seen 2. One using a factory cable/hardware hacking and Burrito root.
the other 8 or so are just people telling you how you can use BurritoRoot.
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or should we use KFU 0.9. I ask because IMHO, this forum has the most confusing series of threads on rooting/recovery/TWRP installation that I have ever read.
Without meaning to be disrespectful to the valiant efforts of the devs, I informally count at least ten times the number of posts stating issues as for successes and every time I check, there is yet another "method" for unbricking or installing, etc...particularly for the notorious yellow triangle.
Could one or more mods please clean up this forum to provide a guiding light.
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Burrito Root is relevant because... its the only way to root 6.2.1 without using a factorycable, or doing hardware hacking.
If you read/watch KFU you will see he is using a custom version of BurritoRoot I wrote for him.
KFU uses a version of BurritoRoot Jcase wrote specifically for me out of generosity to make KFU relevant again and help people out.
My tool is not to take away from what jcase does, but rather take what he has given us, and try to make things better.
YMark said:
I agree with the others as far as the rooting of the Fire has become mass confusion. Ever since 6.2.1, there has been no "sure way" of rooting this firmware. There are several "guides" and "official ....", and personally, I'm not sold on any of them.
I was rooted prior to the 6.2.1 update, and I'll stay unrooted until a new root procedure is given that has a better success rate than the other 10 procedures posted.
Personally, I think only a MODERATOR should be able to title a thread as "Official".
This is my official opinion.
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Hai, it are legit
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Hai, it are legit
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i R developer
I do not believe that burrito root is the problem at all, in my opinion this is very str8 forward way of rooting. I think that the real problem that this thread was started over is people trying to install twrp & firefirefire. So many people keep getting stuck in a boot loop, and is very hard to follow what the problem or the actual fix was. There should be a new thread started stating the official way of installing twrp, firefirefire, and cm7. Honestly to stop the confusion completely a video of one doing it step by step would be the best resolve for this. jcase did an amazing job with burrito root and is NOT the problem at all so to answer the question is burrito root relavent? It is not only relavent but the only and easiest way to root!!! Keep up the great work jcase
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I do not believe that burrito root is the problem at all, in my opinion this is very str8 forward way of rooting. I think that the real problem that this thread was started over is people trying to install twrp & firefirefire. So many people keep getting stuck in a boot loop, and is very hard to follow what the problem or the actual fix was. There should be a new thread started stating the official way of installing twrp, firefirefire, and cm7. Honestly to stop the confusion completely a video of one doing it step by step would be the best resolve for this. jcase did an amazing job with burrito root and is NOT the problem at all so to answer the question is burrito root relavent? It is not only relavent but the only and easiest way to root!!! Keep up the great work jcase
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Precisely
Thanks
[-_-] said:
I do not believe that burrito root is the problem at all, in my opinion this is very str8 forward way of rooting. I think that the real problem that this thread was started over is people trying to install twrp & firefirefire. So many people keep getting stuck in a boot loop, and is very hard to follow what the problem or the actual fix was. There should be a new thread started stating the official way of installing twrp, firefirefire, and cm7. Honestly to stop the confusion completely a video of one doing it step by step would be the best resolve for this. jcase did an amazing job with burrito root and is NOT the problem at all so to answer the question is burrito root relavent? It is not only relavent but the only and easiest way to root!!! Keep up the great work jcase
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In my post earlier, I was awkwardly trying to say this. No disrespect meant to JCase. In fact, a big THANKS. I'm trying to use this burrito procedure now, only from a Mac.
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Precisely
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Most definitely
I would hate for people to get the wrong idea about such a well written method when the confusion lies with something entirely different. I am working on going back to factory default on my kindle, and will work on a video that hopefully will clear up the confusion with the twrp, and firefirefire install correctly...
As for people trying to install burrito root here is a video that is correct and fairly simple to follow...!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KapnjR89ICA
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YMark said:
In my post earlier, I was awkwardly trying to say this. No disrespect meant to JCase. In fact, a big THANKS. I'm trying to use this burrito procedure now, only from a Mac.
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A great way to show your thanks to a developer that uses his time to make our lives a little easier is by donating to them a little goes a long way, and really proves to the dev that they are and should continue to keep up the fabulous work... I will not link jcase's donation link in this post because I am not aware what the rules are on that but I am sure if you have all found his root then finidng the donation site is not far from that..!
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In my post earlier, I was awkwardly trying to say this. No disrespect meant to JCase. In fact, a big THANKS. I'm trying to use this burrito procedure now, only from a Mac.
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The thing is BurritoRoot is just for one thing, starting adbD as root. Everything after is entirely unrelated, and had nothing to do with me. I haven't even laid hands on a kindle fire yet so I can't even comment on any of it, nor do I know the specifics.
With OSX I believe you can just run adb from developer.android.com as root without any system changes, if its like linux.
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The thing is BurritoRoot is just for one thing, starting adbD as root. Everything after is entirely unrelated, and had nothing to do with me. I haven't even laid hands on a kindle fire yet so I can't even comment on any of it, nor do I know the specifics.
With OSX I believe you can just run adb from developer.android.com as root without any system changes, if its like linux.
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I rooted my Fire yesterday using a Mac and it took hardly 2-3 minutes. All the commands are same as given in the thread at rootzwiki. Just fire up terminal after setting up adb. Nothing special needed. No drivers or changing usb.ini needed. It detected Kindle fire right away. Works without a problem.
Big Thanks to all the developers here and all there hard work. The work that has gone into the Kindle Fire in such a short amount of time is Amazing.
I first looked at the title of the thread and thought - is this guy on crack? But I thought about it and with the updates and different root method the forum is pretty confusing, especially if someone just got a Kindle Fire over Christmas and just showed up here. I am rooted and using the secured pre-rooted 6.2.1 boot image Not the OTA and I am not sure what to do to prepare for the next OTA.
I think it would probably help if someone(I'd do it but I am a bit confused, too) did a short "START HERE TO ROOT thread. Something like"
6.2? ---- rooted? -------- Go here
unrooted? ------ Go here
6.2.1? ---- unrooted OTA? ------------------ Go here (KFU - FFF/TWRP/Burrito)
pre-Rooted Boot image ------- Go here/ do nothing?
... just a suggestion
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i have searched but not knowing exactly what to search for is no all that helpful.
i am familiar with ubuntu(been using that on laptops since 8.04) and i can tinker with the terminal (by followng someone else's instructions)
but as far as android, 100% new.
i'm considering rooting my device.
i have learned by reading about what rooting is and the uses.
what i'm looking for is guide or links to more information/read.
what application do i need to get to root my device?
how do i start? what do i do?
i just need a to be pointed in the right direction so i can learn more.
thanks
viper3ez said:
i have searched but not knowing exactly what to search for is no all that helpful.
i am familiar with ubuntu(been using that on laptops since 8.04) and i can tinker with the terminal (by followng someone else's instructions)
but as far as android, 100% new.
i'm considering rooting my device.
i have learned by reading about what rooting is and the uses.
what i'm looking for is guide or links to more information/read.
what application do i need to get to root my device?
how do i start? what do i do?
i just need a to be pointed in the right direction so i can learn more.
thanks
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First, you want to post questions in the Q&A section. Second, look here.
A simple search will save you from getting flamed in these forums. The thread I linked was listed at the very top of the development section.
Christopher3712 said:
First, you want to post questions in the Q&A section. Second, look here.
A simple search will save you from getting flamed in these forums. The thread I linked was listed at the very top of the development section.
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th many other threads
thank you.
i have read that along with many other threads.
problem is, being new, i am yet to understand what the program "visionary" is or where to get the right version
other terms like like radio=off are new to me.
i'm not slow but some of these guides are written with an audience already familiar with rooting in mind.
for someone using their first android phone and trying to root it, a little help is needed so i dont turn my new phone that cost me 2 years of wireless liberty in a paperwheight
viper3ez said:
th many other threads
thank you.
i have read that along with many other threads.
problem is, being new, i am yet to understand what the program "visionary" is or where to get the right version
other terms like like radio=off are new to me.
i'm not slow but some of these guides are written with an audience already familiar with rooting in mind.
for someone using their first android phone and trying to root it, a little help is needed so i dont turn my new phone that cost me 2 years of wireless liberty in a paperwheight
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Well, try this thread, and if you don't understand that, you probably should not mess with your phone. I'm totally not being mean here. But if you don't understand the previous helper's link or the one I'm sending you, you could easily brick your phone and be totally screwed. The guides posted that we linked to are pretty straightforward.
But, to answer one of your questions, VISIONary is an Android app listed in the Android Market that some of the XDA Developer GENIUSES wrote. It's basically the first step in permanently rooting your phone. It can run a discovered exploit in this group of devices and gain 'temporary root'. Which basically means that if you rebooted your phone after gaining temp root, the root would we removed from memory. But, by gaining temp root, you can run superuser level commands which will provide the full root (which doesn't disappear after reboots). This used to have to be entered manually, but again, the geniuses who wrote VISIONary folded this functionality into the app.
BTW, u asked about S=OFF. In the Hboot section of your phone (when you hold the VOLUME DOWN button and POWER button together from a shut off phone), it displays certain firmware information about your phone. 'S' refers to Security (I think), and the '=OFF', is, well, off. So it's supposed to mean the Security's turned off on your phone.
See, I have read about VISIONary and know what it does. Problem is I cant find it in the market place. Rrquested a download link and used QR, neither worked. I dont care about anyone being mean over the net as far as I get the help I need like you gave. I'm new to android and not stupid so I think I can handle rooting a phone.
I intend to keep reading to learn bit I still ne er d help with things like absence of visionary from the marketplace.
Btw is there an alternative for VISION ary?
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Well, try this thread, and if you don't understand that, you probably should not mess with your phone. I'm totally not being mean here. But if you don't understand the previous helper's link or the one I'm sending you, you could easily brick your phone and be totally screwed. The guides posted that we linked to are pretty straightforward.
But, to answer one of your questions, VISIONary is an Android app listed in the Android Market that some of the XDA Developer GENIUSES wrote. It's basically the first step in permanently rooting your phone. It can run a discovered exploit in this group of devices and gain 'temporary root'. Which basically means that if you rebooted your phone after gaining temp root, the root would we removed from memory. But, by gaining temp root, you can run superuser level commands which will provide the full root (which doesn't disappear after reboots). This used to have to be entered manually, but again, the geniuses who wrote VISIONary folded this functionality into the app.
BTW, u asked about S=OFF. In the Hboot section of your phone (when you hold the VOLUME DOWN button and POWER button together from a shut off phone), it displays certain firmware information about your phone. 'S' refers to Security (I think), and the '=OFF', is, well, off. So it's supposed to mean the Security's turned off on your phone.
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Well I care about the meanness, because I need to ask questions from time to time, and I DO search and read threads, so I know how it feels when someone gets uppity about your question.
Anyway, I think I was wrong about it being in the Market. It is posted as a thread in this sub-forum, or as link somewhere, but anyway, you have to download it from here. Best of luck!
Oh, and I'm not sure about alternatives to VISIONary, but I think the only alternative to it would be the original HTC G2 exploit, and whatever command-line stuff that entails. Dunno if that stuff was even posted online; it probably exists with the developer(s) who originally found the exploit.
Please post questions in the Q&A section.
Hi, my phone now is working and all ( the is it bricked post) Thanks guys
Here is the new problem...I would like to go to 2.2.1 ( the passimg.zip is 2.2) is there a way to update without unlocking bootloader.
I tried Androot and superoneclick....Androot gives me the Fugu message and SuperOneClick says its Rooted...but when I go to rom manager or other apps that need superuser...
I get this message : An error occured while attemting to run privileged commands!
So basically Root isn't working.
Also, when trying to install Cyan cm6...Rom manager reboots...but I get the Triangle with the exclamation point with the green man next to it...
Is it still possible to have my cake and eat it? ( locked phone, with root access so I can install modded roms)
Again...can someone help me with this
Thanks!
You didn't have to make a duplicate post. I already answered one of your questions in the other thread.
Dont make another post next time...
I rooted FRG83D with superoneclick root, But if its not working for ya you will have to unlock the bootloader via fastboot. Then push a custom recovery. With the recovery you can install the su binaries.
Manual root:
http://www.nexusoneforum.net/forum/...mple-sdk-setup-manual-root-guide-windows.html
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Ok i'll only answer here now for this question:
I don't want to loose my warranty. Hence the softroot way.
I thought of something dunno if its possible:
is there a stock FRG83 image like the FRG33 I just installed....maybe 2.2.1 will be compatible with androot or superoneclick
Thanks
You need to do a few things before you go any further. There are key steps you are leaving out that are just a recipe for disaster. I'll detail them below, in the specific order you should follow them. There shall be no deviation from this list.
1 - Put your phone down. Seriously, stop messing with it. Just quit.
2 - Read the Wiki that you've been linked to, in both threads, several times.
2a - Now that you've read the Wiki, really read the Wiki. Yeah, you skimmed it the first time, I know you did.
2b - Now go read it again. I'm sure you'll notice something new this time.
2c - Now go read the links in the Wiki. Explore those threads.
2d - Those threads that the Wiki links to? They have links in them. Go read those.
3 - Rinse and repeat all steps from 2a to 2d for, oh, about 4 days. During this time you are allowed:
To post general chit chat on the forum. No technical stuff, no help threads, no questions. Just read. If you have questions, you need to read some more.
No more than 3 app installs per day, from the market. Thou shalt not download and install any APKs from any source that is not the Android Market.
To tweak settings on your phone, provided those settings are all done via the touchscreen on your phone. You shall forget the acronym "ADB".
Once you've done that, you'll root your phone in no time, and you won't be worried that you've bricked it. Then, and only then, can you start asking questions.
Why? Because all of your questions right now are answered. You're jumping the gun, and it's obvious you haven't done much research at all. Seriously, go read.
I hate to be mean, but if you want to understand stuff, you need to try and understand it on your own first. You're here looking for solutions (that are already spelled out) to problems that you created (because you didn't read anything). Quit looking for the easy way out. If you want to enjoy your phone and the features of what you're trying to accomplish...put some work in yourself, and stop expecting everyone else to fix everything and spell it out. People here are more than happy to help, but you gotta start helping yourself.
@Soberguy: Thumbs up to you. Couldn't have said it any better.
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@Soberguy: Thumbs up to you. Couldn't have said it any better.
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Thanks, mate. Didn't mean to quote the guy above me, just noticed I did that. Fixed it.
I'm amazed at the patience some folks have. Maybe it was my rough 3 day weekend that's left me a bit short... Appreciate the thanks, all the same.
Ok, I do go a bit fast.
I'll read...it just that I tried the cm7 mod ( i know its experimental) and the phone
would'nt boot.
With the help of the great people on the board, I got my phone working again but on FRG33 (2.2)
My last question was if it was possible ( or someone knows of because Ive checked the net) to root without unlocking ( androot and superoneclick that i know of) if I have FRG33 ( Because Ive been getting permission errors)
Finally, I wanted to know if a FRG83 stock image was available so that I could recover to it without unlocking bootloader. (or any other stock that lets me root without unlock)
I'll unlock the phone as a last option...I'm sorry...And if anyone is pissed at my posts ...well sorry I just taught some of you experts could help.
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Ok, I do go a bit fast.
I'll unlock the phone as a last option...I'm sorry...And if anyone is pissed at my posts ...well sorry I just taught some of you experts could help.
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See? Looking for the easy way out again.
It's not about anyone being pissed or short on patience. Look at how frustrated you are with the situation. You're frustrated. Why? Cause you did it wrong. Why? Cause you didn't read enough first. Even after several suggestions, you still want it done, with help, right now, or you'll sulk about someone pissed and how no one held your hand through it.
Is it possible to do what you want? Absolutely! Pretty easy, too. But if you read and help yourself, you'll better understand how to update in the future, as well as how to root the future update. Or, you'll learn how to root what you have, and flash a pre-rooted stock ROM (yes, those are here as well).
So call me an ass, cool. You did in your mind, that's fine. But really, I'm trying to let you know what will help you the most, and that's having a better understanding of how to prevent a boot loop in the future, or at least how to fix it if it happens. Best of luck, man.
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Here's the deal.
I did a one click root without unlocking the bootloader. Then I installed rom manager and flashed clockwork recovery. Then I did a backup ( both done in rom manager) then I went back into rom manager and installed cyanogenmod 7 and my nexus is now haxored gingerbread. Make sure you do a full wipe before flashing new roms and it'll always work.
I didn't update my radio, my hboot or anything like that. And it all just works and is dead simple. I would suggest trying z4root or universal androot and then downloading rom manager from the market.
How you managed to **** up something so simple is pretty funny dude.
I'm using an at&t band n1 with an smiled. Not the one with super LCD. I heard a rumor that the super LCD n1s have problems with certain mods. You might want to figure out what type of screen you have too.
The cyanogenmod wiki at cyanogenmod.com might help you too.
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OP, you have to learn the hard way. Stop using "newbie" as an excuse.
I was also a "newbie" when I first got my Nexus One in February. Everything about android was new and alien to me. It actually took me a couple of months of lurking in xda and reading up on tutorials before I took the plunge to rooting my phone. And I did not bother anyone on that. I made sure I understood the steps and triple checked every move I made in following instructions even though I did not understand them.
I also was worried about warranty and actually did the manual way of rooting my phone without unlocking the bootloader using some method that involved cutting a piece of plastic from my battery. That was nerve wrecking and no where as simple as the superoneclick thingy you have now. Yet I survived and I did it on my own.
I must admit that you have to be a little bit confident in using computers and have some basic knowledge of typing commands in cmd. But everyone has to start from somewhere.
Seriously if it's too much trouble or too complicated, maybe staying stock or going Iphone is a more comfortable alternative.
I'm actually pretty good with computers...
Also, I have bricked 4 phones (the provider took them back) fooling around...
I could brought this one back ( they didnt check). But I want to learn...I'm pretty impulsif...Anyway so far
With FRG33 z4root works (read thanks)
Now I trying to flash clockwork...( when I download cyan 6 +google apps) it reboots but I get the triangle thingy...I click power volume up ( read that thanks) I get a blue menu...I kinda scared to click an option so I rebooted...I'm trying to use rom manager for updates because its really simple ...anyway
Thats it for tonight All of you guys are nice dudes and I'll learn and will try to help im my own way...I know I'm a newbie that likes short cuts (hell I read all day at my day job...lol) This is fun ( playing with male toys)
Thanks guys!
Now I have never actually created an exploit for rooting a device, but I had an idea about one, as I have a general gist about it. I don't know if this is what RazorClaw did, but surely something can be done with Asus App Backup? Seeing as it has read and write access to apps, is there the potential to add a backup that will install root in some way?
Just an idea... really want to root my sbkv2 b70!
habylab said:
Just an idea... really want to root my sbkv2 b70!
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Just wondering.... why not use the existing root options that are available for SBKv2 devices?
Ciela said:
Just wondering.... why not use the existing root options that are available for SBKv2 devices?
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First of all, RazorClaw is the only option for SBKv2, and it was fixed in the latest update.
To the OP:
RazorClaw was used to invoke root user access, then remount /system as rw, and add Superuser, plus the matching su binary.
fonix232 said:
First of all, RazorClaw is the only option for SBKv2, and it was fixed in the latest update.
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First of all, you can downgrade your firmware, and still use RazorClaw
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1417006
Second of all, the OP has not stated that he is running the latest update, just that he has an SBKv2 model
Sorry for the confusion! I am on the latest firmware!
Thanks for the tips on how razorclaw worked, really helpful. What are the chances of something similar happening in the near future. Also, thank you for that link I will give it a try now.
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What are the chances of something similar happening in the near future
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I would say it is pretty likely that Asus will continue to close root exploits as they are discovered. Especially so for ones that can be done via an installed app, as malicious apps can (and have in the past) make use of this with ill intent
That's fine, as I am sure I wouldn't update as quickly next time. I only did because it was on 3.1 and I had just got it and noticed huge lag on keyboard and device. Wanted to make sure it was updated, but didn't realise it was an Apple style mouse game of closing exploits!
Ok guys that method linked worked perfectly! Now I just need to know how to install CWM. I get a android with a caution exclamation mark. Any help appreciated!
Ciela said:
First of all, you can downgrade your firmware, and still use RazorClaw
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1417006
Second of all, the OP has not stated that he is running the latest update, just that he has an SBKv2 model
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1, You don't have to be rude
2, I haven't noticed that thread until I sent my message, and I saw after that it was there.
3, It's simply logic. If the user knows RazorClaw, and won't use it, it means the user have tried it already and it didn't work, so he wanted to find another hole.
fonix232 said:
1, You don't have to be rude
2, I haven't noticed that thread until I sent my message, and I saw after that it was there.
3, It's simply logic. If the user knows RazorClaw, and won't use it, it means the user have tried it already and it didn't work, so he wanted to find another hole.
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1) Nothing rude was intended. Sorry if you read into something that wasn't there
2) Hardly my fault
habylab said:
Ok guys that method linked worked perfectly! Now I just need to know how to install CWM. I get a android with a caution exclamation mark. Any help appreciated!
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go to the market and find 'recovery installer'.
it will install CWM for you.
fonix232 said:
1, You don't have to be rude
2, I haven't noticed that thread until I sent my message, and I saw after that it was there.
3, It's simply logic. If the user knows RazorClaw, and won't use it, it means the user have tried it already and it didn't work, so he wanted to find another hole.
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1) Nothing rude was intended. Sorry if you read into something that wasn't there
2) Hardly my fault
3) Funny that RazorClaw is still what he used to do it then..
Like you said yourself, no need to be rude
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Now now guys... I used RazorClaw in the end as I didn't know before I could downgrade. And thank you, installed recovery and installing Revolver!
I have been trying to make sure I take all the correct steps before attempting a root. Some of the software references in the forum have me confused. If someone could help me with these I would very much appreciate it.
Here is a quote from the Icey Faux/Honeylicous thread by the OP:
kjy2010 said:
Hey bro don't you use the backup feature on HC? I format and re-install at least a few times a week, and google reinstalls all my apps in about ten minutes tops.
Nothing personal, I just don't get some peoples aversion to doing a proper wipe and format between installs. It's not like you lose any of your photos, music, or videos even when following the instructions in the OP.
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1) What is the difference between the android market and the google "app store" that I keep seeing people refer too?
a) what is the reference to "HC" in this quote?
- I have purchased apps from the android market that I would like to keep. I followed some references in other threads and got the Titanium Backup (free version) in hopes that I can backup the entire tablet. Is this what I would use to keep my apps/data and bring it back to the tablet after rooting?
2) I also got the Acer Recovery app. This looks as though it is used to bring the tablet back to stock form. Is that correct?
3) Is the term "root" in reference to gaining root permissions/access to the tablet, and nothing else? (I was under the impression that it was the installation of a ROM)
4) I have 3.2.1 on my tablet. It looks as though at this point in time, the only way I can root is to bring it back to at least 3.2 ot less (reference to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1276227&page=11)
5) Any tips on what I should download before the root so that I can keep a backup of the original setup and all of the apps I have purchased?
Thank you for anything you can give.
Ryan
YeeP said:
I have been trying to make sure I take all the correct steps before attempting a root. Some of the software references in the forum have me confused. If someone could help me with these I would very much appreciate it.
Here is a quote from the Icey Faux/Honeylicous thread by the OP:
1) What is the difference between the android market and the google "app store" that I keep seeing people refer too?
a) what is the reference to "HC" in this quote?
- I have purchased apps from the android market that I would like to keep. I followed some references in other threads and got the Titanium Backup (free version) in hopes that I can backup the entire tablet. Is this what I would use to keep my apps/data and bring it back to the tablet after rooting?
2) I also got the Acer Recovery app. This looks as though it is used to bring the tablet back to stock form. Is that correct?
3) Is the term "root" in reference to gaining root permissions/access to the tablet, and nothing else? (I was under the impression that it was the installation of a ROM)
4) I have 3.2.1 on my tablet. It looks as though at this point in time, the only way I can root is to bring it back to at least 3.2 ot less (reference to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1276227&page=11)
5) Any tips on what I should download before the root so that I can keep a backup of the original setup and all of the apps I have purchased?
Thank you for anything you can give.
Ryan
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Ryan,
HC=Honeycomb (the version of Android that is currently on your tab).
No difference, in the name for market, some people just use a different term.
2. No it doesn't. It will install CWM which will make a backup of your current ROM which you can flash to go back to original.
3. Root allows you to install CWM which will in turn allow you to flash custom ROMs.
4. Yes you will need to downgrade first, make certain you have everything you need already downloaded and on your external SD card.
5. Read, READ, READ, READ, take notes, and follow instructions to the letter. We certainly don't need another "help, I bricked my tab" thread lol
1) No difference, Google Market/App Store yada yada yada.
a) HC = Honey Comb, it is Googles internal name for their OS from versions 3.x
- If you go to Settings - Privacy, put a check in the boxes for "Back up my data" and "Automatic restore". Doing this alone has been enough for Google to automatically re-install about 99% of my apps.
2) Acer Recovery makes it easier to install the various Recovery images. It does not alone help you get back to "bone stock", but it at least will re-install the stock Recovery image if and when you're ready to go back to the stock ROM.
3) Root is getting root access to the device, which is generally needed to install custom ROMs, so I could see the confusion.
4) Almost right, you'll need to bring it back to 3.0.1 first. Be sure to have already downloaded and installed at least Acer Recovery and IconiaRoot before downgrading, as the Market is flakey as heck when you downgrade to 3.0.1. I followed method 2 in that thread and had 0 issues.
5) Not needed, see my info after 1,a).
kjy2010 said:
Ryan,
HC=Honeycomb (the version of Android that is currently on your tab).
No difference, in the name for market, some people just use a different term.
2. No it doesn't. It will install CWM which will make a backup of your current ROM which you can flash to go back to original.
3. Root allows you to install CWM which will in turn allow you to flash custom ROMs.
4. Yes you will need to downgrade first, make certain you have everything you need already downloaded and on your external SD card.
5. Read, READ, READ, READ, take notes, and follow instructions to the letter. We certainly don't need another "help, I bricked my tab" thread lol
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In reference to your answers:
#3 - Am I correct in saying that I can get root access without applying a new ROM?
#4 - I have an SD card, and it looks as though with the downloads and what not, the tablet is not even using it.
How (I am sure to get a "use search" answer with someone...) do I force the tablet to download these things I need to the SD card?
Do I need an additional SD card to be used for this process only?
I see that you are working on a version of your ROM for 3.2.1, shall I just wait to avoid problems?
#5 - I have been trying to read as many "brick" threads as I can in order to avoid them.
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3) Root is getting root access to the device, which is generally needed to install custom ROMs, so I could see the confusion.
4) Almost right, you'll need to bring it back to 3.0.1 first. Be sure to have already downloaded and installed at least Acer Recovery and IconiaRoot before downgrading, as the Market is flakey as heck when you downgrade to 3.0.1. I followed method 2 in that thread and had 0 issues.
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I did find the IconiaRoot thread by Thor. It looks as though this is the reason for bringing the version back to 3.0.1, true? Not to many usable answers to the questions asked in that thread, that are answered by the OP. I will try and search for people using it and starting their own thread.
This looks to be a Windows piece of software, maybe I can get it to run on my virtual box... or wine... . I guess I could try it on my work machine.
IconiaRoot is the app to actually use the exploit found to root the device and give you root access. Now, the reason for going to 3.0.1 is because the exploit was fixed by Acer is version 3.2. So, the downgrade is needed first so that the exploit is available to root your device.
OMG..
Your worse then most of my girl friends.. ITS ALL QUITE SIMPLE AND EASY
if you are on STOCK FROM ACER.. 3.2 OR ABOVE . you must DOWNGRADE TO GET ROOT..
The best way to do this to date seems to be in the past by Jimmy Dean.. there are links to his threads in nearly every recent bricked or threads similar to yours..
im guessing if you have looked at all the threads about being bricked and still do not understand how to do it..or scared to try .
DO NOT ATTEMPT
MAYBE you should ask a dev if you can send your tablet to them in the mail and them flash it for you.. Would be my best sugestion.. Everyone that flashes anything on there tablet or any ROM BASED Device takes the risk of bricking.. IF you have read other bricking related threads you will see people complain they fallowed all instructions and still ended up bricked.. Maybe to falt of there own they missed or maybe just luck of the Flash..
Good Luck and look for Jimmy Deans post in the d/load he gives a very detailed instructions with step by step pictures. as some of the others do as well..
Thanks for listening to me RANT About my opinion...
xxx the dingy blonde Erica Renee..
fermunky said:
IconiaRoot is the app to actually use the exploit found to root the device and give you root access. Now, the reason for going to 3.0.1 is because the exploit was fixed by Acer is version 3.2. So, the downgrade is needed first so that the exploit is available to root your device.
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Perfect, thanks man.
erica_renee said:
OMG..
Your worse then most of my girl friends.. ITS ALL QUITE SIMPLE AND EASY
if you are on STOCK FROM ACER.. 3.2 OR ABOVE . you must DOWNGRADE TO GET ROOT..
The best way to do this to date seems to be in the past by Jimmy Dean.. there are links to his threads in nearly every recent bricked or threads similar to yours..
im guessing if you have looked at all the threads about being bricked and still do not understand how to do it..or scared to try .
DO NOT ATTEMPT
MAYBE you should ask a dev if you can send your tablet to them in the mail and them flash it for you.. Would be my best sugestion.. Everyone that flashes anything on there tablet or any ROM BASED Device takes the risk of bricking.. IF you have read other bricking related threads you will see people complain they fallowed all instructions and still ended up bricked.. Maybe to falt of there own they missed or maybe just luck of the Flash..
Good Luck and look for Jimmy Deans post in the d/load he gives a very detailed instructions with step by step pictures. as some of the others do as well..
Thanks for listening to me RANT About my opinion...
xxx the dingy blonde Erica Renee..
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Not sure if you ranted to make yourself feel good or show how awesome you are. Either way, this is not my first time to the rodeo, and not my first time on a forum where there are people that want to constantly show how tough they are. I have seen your posts in other threads and know what to expect from you. Because I am new here, I will not use the language I am tempted to with you.
It is so cool that you feel great enough that you can give someone a hard time because they want to make sure they are prepared to do things right the first time. As opposed to the opposite. Maybe because they want to understand how things work and the syntax surrounding the protocol(s).
My opinion on your opinion is to STFU and kiss my ass. mkay?
erica_renee said:
OMG..
The best way to do this to date seems to be in the past by Jimmy Dean.. there are links to his threads in nearly every recent bricked or threads similar to yours..
xxx the dingy blonde Erica Renee..
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Thought we were talking about tablets here ... this whole Jimmy Dean and Links givin me a hankerin for some breakmast
Give thanks to those who need it..
Thanks for such nice words.I do appreciate and value your opinion of me.
All im saying is that if you have read all the threads and post about bricked devices bad flashing stories and the threads on how to do it correctly.. That there is nothing more anyone can do or say to you about this.. Only other option is for someone to do it for you.. I did not mean to offend you in any way.
Its kinda unclear what you expected to get out of starting a thread stating that you read everything good and bad.. about flashing this tablet.. maybe the solution is to go to android sdk site and get better acquainted with the OS on a more personal level.. if you are still not understanding the process .
With that all said..
I do hope you accomplish what your trying to do.I also sent you a Thanks maybe it will make you smile and not be so hateful toward constructive criticize n.
Good Luck..
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<CLIP> Thanks maybe it will make you smile and not be so hateful toward constructive criticize n.
Good Luck..
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Ah, my mistake, I must have been confused by the meaning of "constructive criticism"
Apparently when you say:
OMG..
Your worse then most of my girl friends.. ITS ALL QUITE SIMPLE AND EASY
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That is meant in the most loving, helpful way. Right? I should have been happy with that response. I apologize.
garringm said:
Thought we were talking about tablets here ... this whole Jimmy Dean and Links givin me a hankerin for some breakmast
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Giggles im so sorry .. fix me some while your in the kitchen..
OK, erica_renee, I need to come back and give a real apology. I am having a hard day at work today and was looking toward learning a new process on my latest toy to give me a little relaxation. I just had a customer blaming my additions to the software as the cause of their problems. Not sure if you code for a living, but that is not a fun conversation.
Sorry if I was mean, I just want to learn and not be treated like an idiot. I just want to be as educated as possible before I make a move. I see to many people getting educated because they broke something.
Its all fine
I do understand what you mean..
NOPE im not in software development in anyway. I did back in the 80s own a local computer business so i know how customers can be.. As far as my past being mean and aggressive.. YES i think it was ,better to have someone dislike me then brick there device.. I have leaned alot about android thru the official android web development site.. Its alot of long winded boring reading.
all is kewl with me. I dont take this stuff personal.People including myself sometimes can become to agressive on forums. as its not really a face to face interaction..
anyway GOOD Luck...
xo xoxoxo
I got the itch for some breakfast also.
Erica, git in dere and whup me up sum vittles!!
IM So sorry TIMMY Dean
oops i feel so stupid i just realized i was having a bad blonde moment..
and while you are cooking guys bring me some as well.. I Have been banned from the kitchen. last time i dropped a expensive glass and broke it.. Thou i used to love to cook.. Boohooo
ok i shup now because im causing yet another forum to be way way off topic..
YeeP said:
Perfect, thanks man.
Not sure if you ranted to make yourself feel good or show how awesome you are. Either way, this is not my first time to the rodeo, and not my first time on a forum where there are people that want to constantly show how tough they are. I have seen your posts in other threads and know what to expect from you. Because I am new here, I will not use the language I am tempted to with you.
It is so cool that you feel great enough that you can give someone a hard time because they want to make sure they are prepared to do things right the first time. As opposed to the opposite. Maybe because they want to understand how things work and the syntax surrounding the protocol(s).
My opinion on your opinion is to STFU and kiss my ass. mkay?
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Good job could not have said any better just using reg English. Giggles
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Good job could not have said any better just using reg English. Giggles
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No Need to downgrade....
Please see attached -
Looks like they found rood for 3.2.1...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1307539
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20680452&postcount=137
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Please see attached -
Looks like they found rood for 3.2.1...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1307539
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20680452&postcount=137
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Thanks! Just spent some time reading through this thread and it seems this is the post that those with 3.2.1 should go to
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20628560&postcount=119
Ok. I need root and su and busybox for my Acer 500 with 3.2.1. Is it possible yet?
Hmmm.... this post was about 8 posts under yours.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1307539
If in doubt, contact TimmyDean He's becoming a root-master lately
I am in the same ship. I have an iconia a500 with stock 3.2.1.
Have been studying but no clear answer. We can not flash rooted firmware cause we can not have cwm on a non rooted tab. Can someone write or... rewrite clear instructions?
Please, we are not experts like you people, but some steps that look clear to you are not so clear to us. Please respond.
kleanth1s said:
I am in the same ship. I have an iconia a500 with stock 3.2.1.
Have been studying but no clear answer. We can not flash rooted firmware cause we can not have cwm on a non rooted tab. Can someone write or... rewrite clear instructions?
Please, we are not experts like you people, but some steps that look clear to you are not so clear to us. Please respond.
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Would you like this spoon fed to you with a warm glass of milk as well?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1307539
Ok, just to be sure. This is on the first line milkman and thanks for being ironic. As I wrote, some of us are new to android, and tried to study, but we need some things to be clear to us. "Ok, after messing around with 3.2 I decided to fix the rooting issues without downgrading"
I am on 3.2.1. So I need to downgrade it to 3.2?
Why wouldnt I downgrade to 3.0? Isnt rooting easier? What problems could I face?
Yes, you do downgrade to 3.0
Its extremely unstable everything force closes, so obtain root, flash cwm and get OFF stock rooted 3.0 quickly as you can
Stock rooted 3.2.1 is (one of) the best bets for ROMs for our tab right now. Flash that and then do some research into additional ROMs, if you want to.
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Ok, just to be sure. This is on the first line milkman and thanks for being ironic. As I wrote, some of us are new to android, and tried to study, but we need some things to be clear to us. "Ok, after messing around with 3.2 I decided to fix the rooting issues without downgrading"
I am on 3.2.1. So I need to downgrade it to 3.2?
Why wouldnt I downgrade to 3.0? Isnt rooting easier? What problems could I face?
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Well, did anybody bother to download and read the pdf or word doc file in the attached link above? Because it sounds like you didn't. I don't have 3.2.1 as I have a 501, so I have no need to perform this, but the doc even has pictures with circles and arrows and a paragraph explaining each step with warnings and notes in red.
After the root is done, he even has a tool to install busybox. (you may want to install the superuser app first I believe he says)
I really don't know how much simpler it could be.
I suggest, if you have a question about the root app, as I stated previously above, you contact TimmyDean on his thread about any confusion you may possibly have.
If you are unfamiliar with certain terminology used, AndroidCentral has a good Android dictionary.
Honestly tho, it sound like you all didn't bother to download and read the doc or pdf.
You are 100% right. I read everything except that one you said. Just finished flashing. VERY EASY, and GOD BLESS YOU my friend.
Didnt understand the backdoor tools OTA and busybox. My final question is, now that I have finished flashing (first step) am I rooted or do I have to complete the other steps?
What did you flash? Back to stock?
Sent from my a500
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You are 100% right. I read everything except that one you said. Just finished flashing. VERY EASY, and GOD BLESS YOU my friend.
Didnt understand the backdoor tools OTA and busybox. My final question is, now that I have finished flashing (first step) am I rooted or do I have to complete the other steps?
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Yeah Yeah Yeah,,, act first, read instructions later
From what I understand, the backdoor tools will keep you from getting OTA updates. Maybe I'm wrong, but I really wasn't interested in that part. If you ever recieve notice from Acer, DO NOT install it. Usually, Acer likes to ship new bootloaders with their updates, just to mess with us "rooters".
Go to the Market, and get Superuser app and let it install.
I believe at this point, you have to run Install the busybox Tools (busybox folder), as I believe it gives you the option to install Busybox and Superuser tools. (not sure what exactly are the superuser tools, but he seems to think it's necessary, as when you run the app, it tell you to have superuser installed first)
And I think that's all you need. Then select Reboot the system.
The easiest way to check if you have superuser access, is to download an app that requires it.
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Oh, 1 more thing. I don't think TimmyDeans app installs CWM recovery. He didn't specify this. So you may want to post a note or read his threads as somebody else may have asked the same thing.
CWM Recovery is necessary to flash custom roms. If you get root access, then probably you need to download AcerRecovery from the market, run it, and install Thor's Recovery image. (pretty painless).
And that's it. Then you have to follow instructions VERY CAREFULLY when flashing things, and always understand fully what you're doing.
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What did you flash? Back to stock?
Sent from my a500
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He ran TimmyDeans root for 3.2.1. He downloaded and "read" the included instructions.
no, just followed the guide step by step, read it 4 times and proceeded.
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no, just followed the guide step by step, read it 4 times and proceeded.
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Exactly
Better to ask questions, and avoid a brick, and definately read the instructions seveal times.
Oh yeah, a tidbit, make sure you hit "quote", so we know who you're replying to
Yup, it's all in the guide and if you get the latest versions (V4) there is nothing to load. It loads all the rooting tools and busybox stuff for you.
The other tools in the package are things that allow you to turn OFF OTA's so you're not blindsided by an OTA breaking root. Or you can take an OTA when you want and not when ACER wants you too. The backdoor tools are tools designed to stop an OTA from breaking root. However, V4 has one of these techniques already installed therefore if you don't turn off OTA's; most likely you'll keep root (again most likely, not guaranteed).
TD
Junkyardjames87, I think this is what your asking for.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1429199
but seriously...next time take 5 mins to look thru the dev section for roms.
Ok,ok. I did find timmydeans post after i just logged off. I was just really really tired that night. If you read my sig and look into the motorola bravo you will see why I've been tired. Thankyou all for the help. I did get root bty so all is good now. And remember, we all started out as a dumb n00b before we found XDA.
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Ok,ok. I did find timmydeans post after i just logged off. I was just really really tired that night. If you read my sig and look into the motorola bravo you will see why I've been tired. Thankyou all for the help. I did get root bty so all is good now. And remember, we all started out as a dumb n00b before we found XDA.
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Exactly. We were all n00bs at one time. Lest we ever forget.
"The only stupid question, is the one that never gets asked" (from an old guy long ago who has since traveled to "a better world")
Speaking for a lot of regulars here, we would rather answer n00b questions, (and yes, we will give some mocking in it), than to deal with a bricked tab later.
So you go ahead and ask those questions
Sometimes, users will give you an absolute hard time. Pay no attention to it. It's because we want you to use your resources. Do your searches. Be polite, and you'll find we'll help you in all that is possible. Sometimes, we don't have the answer (rarely), but others may.
And no, we do not always spend all day on the forums. Some of us live in different countries, with different time zones. And some have jobs and family also. So if certain people don't respond, well, give it some hours.
Moscow Desire said:
Exactly. We were all n00bs at one time. Lest we ever forget.
"The only stupid question, is the one that never gets asked" (from an old guy long ago who has since traveled to "a better world")
Speaking for a lot of regulars here, we would rather answer n00b questions, (and yes, we will give some mocking in it), than to deal with a bricked tab later.
So you go ahead and ask those questions
Sometimes, users will give you an absolute hard time. Pay no attention to it. It's because we want you to use your resources. Do your searches. Be polite, and you'll find we'll help you in all that is possible. Sometimes, we don't have the answer (rarely), but others may.
And no, we do not always spend all day on the forums. Some of us live in different countries, with different time zones. And some have jobs and family also. So if certain people don't respond, well, give it some hours.
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Exactly, well said.