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MIUI for novices

Greetings, I am sure I could discover all about MIUI if I looked hard enough, but I thought it might be useful if we had our own Nexus S place where someone like me who has never used or seen MIUI in action could hear from those with previous experience.
I understand its very different from normal android but in which important ways? Are widgets the same? Is the market the same? Will we still have Voodoo sound and colour? Does the app drawer still apply? You see where I am driving at!
please share knowledge and questions...

I have very limited experience with miui I'll admit but I can answer a few of your questions. Most things are the same however it has its own customer launcher and home replacement for which there is no app drawer. All apps are placed on homescreens for the minuit launcher however you can use adw or lpp and have an app drawer back.
Sent from my MattedBlues CM7 Nexus S from the XDA Premium app.

Thanks man, I have heard many good things about MIUI but I would miss something like Voodoo so much! I mean how awesome is Voodoo sound?!
It does seem MIUI would take some getting used to.

willcpfc said:
Thanks man, I have heard many good things about MIUI but I would miss something like Voodoo so much! I mean how awesome is Voodoo sound?!
It does seem MIUI would take some getting used to.
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Well its just like any other ROM, kernels will have to be customized for it. I'm sure someone will release a voodoo sound/color equipped kernel for it soon.
Its definitely a switch but one worth giving a shot. I tried it on my Evo but couldn't get Swype working and at the time I was more in love with Swype then I was with any ROM so I gave up after only giving it a few hours. I plan to give it a much more fair chance this time but its a little difficult getting things set up when half of everything is in chinese lol

willcpfc said:
Greetings, I am sure I could discover all about MIUI if I looked hard enough, but I thought it might be useful if we had our own Nexus S place where someone like me who has never used or seen MIUI in action could hear from those with previous experience.
I understand its very different from normal android but in which important ways? Are widgets the same? Is the market the same? Will we still have Voodoo sound and colour? Does the app drawer still apply? You see where I am driving at!
please share knowledge and questions...
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maybe these fanatics might answer some of your questions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=890373

Yeah I was following that thread. I think my questions can only be answered by trying it out. When its in English as my Chinese is not up to much lol. I got a feeling I wont like miui though. But we shall see

willcpfc said:
Yeah I was following that thread. I think my questions can only be answered by trying it out. When its in English as my Chinese is not up to much lol. I got a feeling I wont like miui though. But we shall see
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Lol I assume your chinese comment is sarcasm and I can assure you its usable in chinese. I do not know a single chinese character but for the most part you can work your way through everything. The one thing I'm still looking for is Haptic Feedback because I hate it and its on by default <.<

I personally love MIUI. The lockscreen, when they get it, looks fantastic and nice. The menu screen is extremely different. If you look at the pics you'll see what it looks like. That takes some time getting used. All the apps are on the homescreen now, similar to iOS. You can create folders to organize them. You can also add all the widgets you normally get from the market, on there. The messenger has been modified, it a very good way. It looks really good. Everything else is the same.

ruben8448 said:
I personally love MIUI. The lockscreen, when they get it, looks fantastic and nice. The menu screen is extremely different. If you look at the pics you'll see what it looks like. That takes some time getting used. All the apps are on the homescreen now, similar to iOS. You can create folders to organize them. You can also add all the widgets you normally get from the market, on there. The messenger has been modified, it a very good way. It looks really good. Everything else is the same.
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From what I understand they don't have any intention of bringing the old lockscreen back. I'm not sure if they will be doing a new one but, again this is my understanding, we're stuck with the AOSP lockscreen.

kenvan19 said:
From what I understand they don't have any intention of bringing the old lockscreen back. I'm not sure if they will be doing a new one but, again this is my understanding, we're stuck with the AOSP lockscreen.
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Nothings impossible Somebody can make a unofficial lockscreen port

kenvan19 said:
Lol I assume your chinese comment is sarcasm and I can assure you its usable in chinese. I do not know a single chinese character but for the most part you can work your way through everything. The one thing I'm still looking for is Haptic Feedback because I hate it and its on by default <.<
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one thing that strikes me regarding the original MIUI ROM being chinese natively... is that AOS is supposed to be roughly international No?
even if it installs as Chinese, you should be able to go into settings and change it to English?
like when i change English to Spanish and Vice versa in the stock ROM or some other Custom ROMs

AllGamer said:
one thing that strikes me regarding the original MIUI ROM being chinese natively... is that AOS is supposed to be roughly international No?
even if it installs as Chinese, you should be able to go into settings and change it to English?
like when i change English to Spanish and Vice versa in the stock ROM or some other Custom ROMs
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MIUI is fully customized. And no this isn't the case, its set to English by default and the MIUI ROM is a hybrid of English and Chinese.
The English language pack is now available (~30MB) in the MIUI thread.

Simply, it is an iOSish Android ROM.

zephiK said:
MIUI is fully customized. And no this isn't the case, its set to English by default and the MIUI ROM is a hybrid of English and Chinese.
The English language pack is now available (~30MB) in the MIUI thread.
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yeah, i saw the pictures, those menu options will give me a headache with the non english stuff ... LOL

AllGamer said:
yeah, i saw the pictures, those menu options will give me a headache with the non english stuff ... LOL
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it wasn't that bad. the icons in settings were pretty relevant.
its fine now. just the notification power widgets is still in chinese.
only complaint i really at this point is white background with white text.
will probably go back to CM7 when the next nightly comes. i prefer having all black to maximize super amoled screen

zephiK said:
it wasn't that bad. the icons in settings were pretty relevant.
its fine now. just the notification power widgets is still in chinese.
only complaint i really at this point is white background with white text.
will probably go back to CM7 when the next nightly comes. i prefer having all black to maximize super amoled screen
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That, the download issue and the lockscreen are my complaints. Not going to lie...without the custom lockscreen MIUI is CM7 with a custom launcher <.<

kenvan19 said:
That, the download issue and the lockscreen are my complaints. Not going to lie...without the custom lockscreen MIUI is CM7 with a custom launcher <.<
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pretty much. but it opens a lot of room for customizablity and eye candy.
my engadget, photobucket and some other apps FC'd on me so i reverted back to CM7. probably going back to it on the next release and see how it is.
for some reason, my ADW EX settings doesn't get restored when im on MIUI but works for CM7 and other 2.3 based roms. weird

kenvan19 said:
That, the download issue and the lockscreen are my complaints. Not going to lie...without the custom lockscreen MIUI is CM7 with a custom launcher <.<
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Download issue can be solved by switch the download mode to start download under any network.
Open Downloads app -> Press Menu button -> Select the right one to switch to start download under any network
Refer to the MIUI forum, since the new UI is still under development, so the custom lockscreen not integrated yet on the first release

Cant really find the "Downloads app" setting. Have a tip or an image of where u mean?
@ zephiK worked for me with restoring the settings with titanium.

zephiK said:
pretty much. but it opens a lot of room for customizablity and eye candy.
my engadget, photobucket and some other apps FC'd on me so i reverted back to CM7. probably going back to it on the next release and see how it is.
for some reason, my ADW EX settings doesn't get restored when im on MIUI but works for CM7 and other 2.3 based roms. weird
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Damn! Got the FC on engadget to.

MIUI is dead. (Sort of)

Sounds like it's all gone pear shaped. The main English porting for MIUI is no more, the site is gone.
Some of the details are from the @MiuiDev twitter feed:
http://twitter.com/#!/miuidev
MIUI itself is still in development as usual by the original Chinese devs, the English translation has hit a major speedbump (brick wall?) with this however.

Go to miuiandroid.com
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I never understood why everyone loves miui so much anyways

I always heard it was pretty awesome, in an iphone kind of way.

chelsea_fc said:
Go to miuiandroid.com
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Miuiandroid.com appears down as well. None of the links are working.

I was around the site for a bit. It's known that markhuk is not very stable. He usually just flips out from random thing. He yelled at members so many times for reporting a bug, banned a few country by IPs, threatened to give up the project at least 10 times before.
The dude thinks he owns everything on there and everyone who helps him are nobody. I'm actually quite happy that the majority of the dev splits and form MIUI.us. At least the English version of the Rom is not in Mark's dead grip. Also, less drama from this dude.

popophobia said:
I was around the site for a bit. It's known that markhuk is not very stable. He usually just flips out from random thing. He yelled at members so many times for reporting a bug, banned a few country by IPs, threatened to give up the project at least 10 times before.
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lol, you're right.. right on cue:
he tweets this:
No new server - site is down indefinitely good bye and farewell to all. I'm sorry it ended this way but people wanted me out so im out.
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then, all of a sudden:
waiting for new server being setup.
We're good - no data lost just some souls love you guys muchly!
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Whatever.

I hope the Chinese team will drop him. Too much drama.

illuminarias said:
I never understood why everyone loves miui so much anyways
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flash and try it yourself....

pakraider said:
lol, you're right.. right on cue:
he tweets this:
then, all of a sudden:
Whatever.
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That dude sounds friggin bipolar

Well...
Site down or not, as long as we can get translators to translate from Chinese to English and update the roms with the translated text, then the updates can still roll out somewhere somehow. Basically everything having to do with English translations is down.... right?
Miui still comes from China.... not like the whole china-made-rom is dead.... no?
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http://www.miuiandroid.com/2011/04/were-back/
I like MIUI as well as CM and Sense roms--it is what flashing is all about--each has their own unique look and qualities

So where does one download MiUi English version then? And is it 2.3 based? I tried one last week and it looked quite unstable. Couldn't even find the FM radio. Quickly flashed back to CM7.
What do people recommend?

You need to go to the Forums/Nexus One and dl the latest deodexed chinese rom and English pack
Flash them back to back from sd card like any other rom
You will need to wipe data and caches at least 3X for everything, I do five.
Do a nandroid first and would redo sd card as in reformat outside phone and repartition ext3 1gb. Back it up first
I found this helps if having issues
I, like some, need to dl VM Heap Tool from Market and set to 48
If launcher is still laggy use ADW
You may want to reboot after initial flash to set space and also run a2sd commands

b1337 said:
flash and try it yourself....
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I did. Sure I like the eye candy. But I don't like the fact that there's no app launcher. Everyone has different likings. This isnt one of mine

Use ADW--you don't lose the unique pull down bar or any other MIUI features
I have used it with a solid black wallpaper and lose some of the iphone look
I think there is an icon theme also?

He does sound a bit all-over-the-place.
Paul O'Brien from MoDaCo has gone to the extent of purchasing additional physical hardware in order to supply them with a server which is pretty epic on his part. Looks like it's not going away any time soon.
I like some of the things that MIUI tries to do, but it has issues with a few things that I need it not to have issues with.

change sms theme

Hi all. i had manage to find out that our sgs2 can change the theme of the message looks .just go to hit the menu button and select skin from the show all tread sms view , u will be able to select a few kinds of looks from there. cheers!

Ha, had no idea that was possible. Thanks!
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nice tip.
but... i did this on my first SGS2, then i had it returned and got a new one.
now when i click the menu button, the first entry under "settings" is "message font size", and not "message skin" as i believe it was called before.
is it just me, or does this not work with the newest firmware?

Some firmwares have it and some don't. KE7 and KF1 did but KF4 and KF2 don't. But my battery is so much better on KF2 I'm willing to lose the message themes.

ok thanks for the answer. seems like a silly thing to remove, but i'd rather have the battery life.

I'm pretty sure my KF2 had it, but after my update, which as far as I know was supposed to just be for the browser, I lost the ability to skin...
Now usually I wouldn't care, but I hate the iPhone-esque skin that I'm now stuck with... I wish Apple would sue for stuff like this instead...

__NBH__ said:
Some firmwares have it and some don't. KE7 and KF1 did but KF4 and KF2 don't. But my battery is so much better on KF2 I'm willing to lose the message themes.
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KF3 doesn't have it either.

Neither does KG1, fyi.
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380AU said:
KF3 doesn't have it either.
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Yep, all gone

ATRIX 4G is capable of two-way call recording

Dear all,
I know there are already many threads asking about if Atrix 4G is capable of two-way call recording, and in short the answer is no due to some firmware issue.
Well, I just flashed the official firmware by Motorola for Atrix 4G model sold in China into my AT&T model, and two-way call recording turns out to be one of the functions by default.
This is not a cooked rom, though there are some cooked roms based on this official rom that also have the same function.
I just want to let you know that ATRIX 4G can do call recording beautifully, without any compromise, even for my AT&T model.
Please kindly not to start the legal debate (or even worse) again, as I just want to share this piece of information with you, and I fully respect your view on the moral and legal implications of call recording.
I missed Dark Force and CM7, but I just need call recording fuction so badly that I have to use this official, bloated room by Motorola. Hopefully one day we can find call recording function in those wonderful cooked roms.

Interesting. Where did you find this "official" firmware?
Edit: never mind, I found it. Thanks for the info!

Good find! It would be awesome to see this functionality in other ROMs.
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sspa said:
Interesting. Where did you find this "official" firmware?
Edit: never mind, I found it. Thanks for the info!
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Can you share the link please?

or just the .apk would be nice.

tomerbn said:
Can you share the link please?
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Jibraldor said:
or just the .apk would be nice.
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The link I found is full of chinese, I'm not sure the link will be useful for you guys, but here it is anyway: ligux.com/t-61-1-1.html
But the equivalent instructions and download sites in English is found right here in XDA: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15020775&postcount=2
Also the Fruit Cakes is the safer approach (search for hktw): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1163009
I would suggest you go look at the XDA post.
I haven't flashed and tested it personally yet, so please don't take my word for it.

I'd love to see this in future ROM implementations...
I wonder what's the cook's POV on this issue though...

sspa said:
Interesting. Where did you find this "official" firmware?
Edit: never mind, I found it. Thanks for the info!
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dont you just hate people like this guy? i really do

sanriver12 said:
dont you just hate people like this guy? i really do
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I'm sorry if you're referring to the fact that I didn't do my homework before posting my question...

sspa said:
I'm sorry if you're referring to the fact that I didn't do my homework before posting my question...
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nope. i was referring to you asking for a resource/solution, finding it by yourself but then having to ask you to link to it in case someone else needed it in the future.

sanriver12 said:
nope. i was referring to you asking for a resource/solution, finding it by yourself but then having to ask you to link to it in case someone else needed it in the future.
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Okay got it. I hesitated to post it at that time because people can always use "search". Nonetheless, thanks for pointing it out.

Sound recorder + speaker phone works pretty good too.
The downside to that though is.... obvious.

mystliu said:
Dear all,
I know there are already many threads asking about if Atrix 4G is capable of two-way call recording, and in short the answer is no due to some firmware issue.
Well, I just flashed the official firmware by Motorola for Atrix 4G model sold in China into my AT&T model, and two-way call recording turns out to be one of the functions by default.
This is not a cooked rom, though there are some cooked roms based on this official rom that also have the same function.
I just want to let you know that ATRIX 4G can do call recording beautifully, without any compromise, even for my AT&T model.
Please kindly not to start the legal debate (or even worse) again, as I just want to share this piece of information with you, and I fully respect your view on the moral and legal implications of call recording.
I missed Dark Force and CM7, but I just need call recording fuction so badly that I have to use this official, bloated room by Motorola. Hopefully one day we can find call recording function in those wonderful cooked roms.
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can you give me a link to that rom?

well, i know you didn't want to start a legal debate... and i'm not really trying to either, but the legality of it IS probably the reason why this might not make it into any custom ROM's.

manrock111 said:
can you give me a link to that rom?
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Unfortunately I'm too new to post an external link here.
I'll PM you instead.
And unfortunately again this is a PRC forum so you probably don't know understand the Chinese contents, thus unable to register and download the file.
How may I help so you can get the apk/file you need to port this feature to other versions of roms?

elementaldragon said:
well, i know you didn't want to start a legal debate... and i'm not really trying to either, but the legality of it IS probably the reason why this might not make it into any custom ROM's.
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I'm not a legal expert to make a comment on this, so if any senior member is interested in porting this feature please let me know how can I help.
I registered XDA user account to post this finding because I thought it could be useful to some Atrix users.
I bought my Atrix in the U.S. but I live in Taiwan.
The Atrix sold in Taiwan has no voice recording capability either.
Yet the Samsung Galaxy S2 and many other phones sold here does have such feature by default.
So I assume it is sometimes a decision made by the manufacturer, at least in some countries other than the U.S.

NO in the usa it is totally illegal to record a phone conversatio without the express written concent of all partys involved thus creating a lyability for people who create such software and or implement it
however personally i think it would be usefull evidence against vindictive ex wifes
http://www.citmedialaw.org/legal-guide/recording-phone-calls-and-conversations

ltdanno360 said:
NO in the usa it is totally illegal to record a phone conversatio without the express written concent of all partys involved thus creating a lyability for people who create such software and or implement it
however personally i think it would be usefull evidence against vindictive ex wifes
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Thanks for your input, and hopefully it concludes the legal side discussion in this thread.
Once again I'm totally fine with how it is in the U.S., and I assume there are Atrix users like me who live outside the U.S. as well.

There's a few apps that work fine on my SGS and not my Atrix. One of them is ANY program that allows you to listen to music with a single (mono) Bluetooth earpiece. That for instance is not an issue on my regular SGS.
Besides call recording, (and bluetooth music) I often wonder if the phone is purposely locking it out, or just bad programming on the STOCK ROM itself?...
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mystliu said:
Well, I just flashed the official firmware by Motorola for Atrix 4G model sold in China into my AT&T model, and two-way call recording turns out to be one of the functions by default.
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Can you guide me, how you were able to do this, are you able to tether in the Chinese version.

Chinese app auto downloaded ? ?

Just saw that this Chinese app was downloaded to my transformer automatically. When you open it, it opens as polaris. Anyone else know what's going on with this ?
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Does it look like this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24110947
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24068352

Yes, thanks. Just wanted to be sure someone with more experience than myself knew about this, since all the problems a lot of us are having lately.
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wilowolf666 said:
Just saw that this Chinese app was downloaded to my transformer automatically. When you open it, it opens as polaris. Anyone else know what's going on with this ?
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Are you sure it's Chinese? Because the app in baseballfanz's links is Korean.

horndroid said:
Are you sure it's Chinese? Because the app in baseballfanz's links is Korean.
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Does it matter if it's Korean or Chinese? For the avg person (except hondroid, he's special) that don't know either Korean or Chinese it doesn't matter. Language would look the same.

baseballfanz said:
Does it matter if it's Korean or Chinese? For the avg person that don't know either Korean or Chinese it doesn't matter. Language would look the same.
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I just thought the OP could have been talking about a different app?
Btw, I am an average person who doesn't know chinese or korean. Not sure how you can say they look the same. They look completely different. I guess written german and written russian look the same to you too?

OK, above post edited to make hondroid happy.

He meant Average American.

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OK, above post edited to make hondroid happy.
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lol since when do you have to actually know the language to tell them apart when they LOOK obviously different?
Pretty much everyone can look at a chinese writing and a korean writing and discern them as different languages even if they know nothing about the language or have never seen them before.
If a chinese person and a korean person were standing next to each other, noway I would be able to tell the difference but the written forms of their language is obviously different.

wait, why would one who doesn't speak or write neither know which is.which? That doesn't make sense
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You are all fired. Pick up your check on the way out.
They should disable the search button. No one here knows how to use it..........dot....dotdot....moredots........dotsnstuf.....f

eminembdg said:
wait, why would one who doesn't speak or write neither know which is.which? That doesn't make sense
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You wouldn't be able to identify them but you can still tell that they are different because they LOOK different.
Assume you don't know English or Russian, never heard or saw them in your life. If someone showed you a paper written in English and a paper written in Russian, you would still know that they are 2 different languages.

You are assuming that everyone sees them side by side. Obviously if you see the same phrase in both languages you could tell the difference, however, someone who knows nothing about foreign language... Especially symbols, won't be able to tell a difference without a direct comparison.
You need to realize that the average American is culturally retarded (no offense, I'm American) and when looking at other languages, especially symbols, will default to what they consider the most primary Asian race in their mind... Most cases this is China.
I find it funny that you say you can tell the differences in their written languages but not their physical appearance... That seems a bit backwards to me, as we are generally exposed to a diversity of people in our day to day lives but rarely do we see enough of other countries languages to become familiar with them. I for one generally know if someone is Chinese, Japanese, Korean etc... But can barely tell the difference in their written language, the spoken language is different. I can also tell the difference in the spoken language as well... Most times at least.
Anyways, just want to give my thoughts on this very weird and unnecessary tangent.
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From wikipedia
For over a millennium, Korean was written with adapted Chinese characters called hanja, complemented by phonetic systems like hyangchal, gugyeol, and idu. In the 15th century, a national writing system called hangul was commissioned by Sejong the Great, but it only came into widespread use in the 20th century, because of the yangban aristocracy's preference for hanja.
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Example;
Hangul 한자/한문한자 <---Korean
Hanja 漢字/韓文漢字 <---Chinese
Really, you are supposed to be able to tell these are two different languages having no experience with either??
Come on already man..on to the help..
Guys, check out the Portal, there is this;
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/samsung-users-bewildered-by-random-russian-e-mail-application/
Could it be a Play Store glitch?