I was just wondering if an unlocked Bell HTC Desire Z will work on the Wind Mobile network??
Thanks a lot.
Z!GZA!G said:
I was just wondering if an unlocked Bell HTC Desire Z will work on the Wind Mobile network??
Thanks a lot.
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The Desire Z will work if you only plan to use EDGE speeds.
You should get the T-mobile G2 because the radio uses the 3G/3.5G (HSPA) on 1700/2100 bands, same as Wind Mobile if they use 1700/2100.
The Bell Desire Z uses the 3G/3.5G (HSPA) on 850/1900 bands, same bands as AT&T.
As far as I know, Wind currently does not operate an EDGE network. So, as the above poster said, you're better off getting the T-Mobile G2.
Wind Mobile Desize Z
I have the T-Mobile G2 and it works great on the WIND network.
Wind uses ONLY AWS (1700/2100). There is no fallback edge/PCS network, except for ROAMING on ROBBERS ($0.25/minute, $4/MB).
What you should try to do is find a US ATT user who has a Vision for TMOBILE and propose a swap (since tmobile version of the hardware won't work 3G on ATT).
Alternatively, just buy a new phone and switch to Wind. The $$ savings will QUICKLY pay for the new phone -- especially since the HMP $40 unlimited everything plan is still available (I think only until this sunday unless they extend it again...). HTC DOUBLESHOT (marketed as tmobile mytouch4gslide) is the successor to htc vision, and is 100% compatible with Wind. They're $500.
I've tried going to a Wind Mobile store and testing their sim card, but it didn't work as Wind Mobile dosen't support the bands that the Desire Z has. But the G2 works on wind.
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I have the T-Mobile G2 and it works great on the WIND network.
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I just bought HTC G2 from t-mobile, and unlocked it, but oddly my data wont work even though i have unlimited everything you you help me with the network settings?
Did you update the APN settings? If that doesn't ring a bell, you can find a better guide than I could write by checking your favourite websearch site. If you updated the APNs and still don't have data... that seems to be an intermittent bug. Try changing the name of the data APN a few times, sometimes that'll force a connection.
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I bought a used N1 on eBay. I totally wasn't even thinking about the fact that there are different models of the phone for different carriers. Turns out I have the T-Mobile N1, but I have AT&T service currently.
I assume that there is no kind of mod/firmware to get it to use AT&T 3G, and that it's the hardware that limits me to T-Mo? Probably more than some custom firmware or something could fix?
That kind of sucks, if so. I doubt anyone would have an AT&T model, looking for a T-Mo model, eh?
Thanks for any help, if it's even possible..
Have you looked at the seller's return policy?
No returns accepted, as stated on the item page.
I can live with it (in remorse)..
The seller didn't mention what model it was at all, either.
I don't suppose Verizon uses the same bands as T-Mo?
austinm08 said:
No returns accepted, as stated on the item page.
I can live with it (in remorse)..
The seller didn't mention what model it was at all, either.
I don't suppose Verizon uses the same bands as T-Mo?
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No, they don't. T-Mobile and Verizon use totally different radio technologies.
Go onto the Marketplace forum on XDA, and trade/sell it through there.
Put your sim card in it
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Post it for sale locally on craigslist to finance a unit with the AT&T radio.
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Also if you have trouble locating the AT&T compatible N1, you may also consider the Telus version of HTC Desire. Largely the same hardware, AT&T bands, but no Euro 2100 band.
Possible bonus: AT&T does not know the IMEI of Telus Androids, and might not force you to a higher cost smart phone data plan.
Thanks for your input, guys.
I'll try first to sell it locally via Craigslist.
I really think that it will be much more difficult
since they discontinued the Nexus One, and provided it through the developers only,
it has always been the T-Mobile version which is quite disappointing....
the AT&T version seem to just disappear from manufacturing all together
point I am trying to make is that it the AT&T version should be much rarer and possibly worth more on the market since there are less quantities of it
it sucks my friend I feel for you...
How is the T-Mobile N1 different from AT&T model?
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Different radio frequencies and limited availability. Otherwise identical.
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I've done the exact opposite...got myself an ATT N1 while on tmobile...hahaha
hahah. I've since sold my T-Mo N1 on eBay and bought an AT&T N1 from Craigslist.. got a sweet deal, too!
wait wait a sec
If you Unlock the S off on the nexus one Tmobile. You can use a At&t sm card with out a problem. I UnloCked the S off ON the mytouch 4g AND IT works on At&t s network. HMMMM. Wondering if it works.
Sir0 said:
If you Unlock the S off on the nexus one Tmobile. You can use a At&t sm card with out a problem. I UnloCked the S off ON the mytouch 4g AND IT works on At&t s network. HMMMM. Wondering if it works.
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Yes, it will function on the network. The issue is that the radio hardware is built for specific frequencies, which differ between the T-Mobile and AT&T models.
You can use one phone on the other's network just fine as a phone, but you will be limited to 2G data speeds, as AT&T uses 850/1900MHz for their 3G data and T-Mobile uses 900 1700/2100MHz.
Umm, nobody uses 900 MHz for cellular in North America... that spectrum is not allocated for that purpose here.
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Umm, nobody uses 900 MHz for cellular in North America... that spectrum is not allocated for that purpose here.
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You're right, my apologies. The fact of the matter (that the hardware is incompatible between the AT&T and T-Mobile networks) remains intact though.
Correct 3G data frequency information, as best I can make it out:
AT&T uses 850MHz and 1900MHz.
T-Mobile uses 1700MHz and 2100MHz.
900MHz and 2100MHz are used primarily in Europe; a phone made for European markets will have a better chance of being fully compatible with T-Mobile's network in the states based on sharing the 2100MHz band.
Closer but still not quite
Read up on the AWS band. European phones will not get T-Mobile 3G at all without 1700.
But in the specific case of the Nexus One, models sold in Europe do have AWS.
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I just got the mytouch 4g and i wanted to sell my nexus one. But i wanted to double check and see if i can sell it to someone on the at&t network. I currently have tmobile. I thought the S-Off was to completely unlock the phone. So u can switch between carriers. Didnt know the frequency would be different. thank guyz. Damn u HTC.
austinm08 said:
I bought a used N1 on eBay. I totally wasn't even thinking about the fact that there are different models of the phone for different carriers. Turns out I have the T-Mobile N1, but I have AT&T service currently.
I assume that there is no kind of mod/firmware to get it to use AT&T 3G, and that it's the hardware that limits me to T-Mo? Probably more than some custom firmware or something could fix?
That kind of sucks, if so. I doubt anyone would have an AT&T model, looking for a T-Mo model, eh?
Thanks for any help, if it's even possible..
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What kind of shape is your T-Mobile N1 in?
I'm actually in the process of switching to T-Mobile, and I have an ATT model that I would potentially be interested in trading, but it's definitely not mint.
hello, i just bought a week ago and htc g2/ vision, had it unlocked so i can have another sim card thats not tmobiles in.
i live in el salvador and my carrier is tigo and calls are perfectly fine and all but data connections are only edge! and i have no idea why??? i also have a x10 mini and i use the same apn and it connects to 3g
anyone know why and how to fix it?
nonione said:
hello, i just bought a week ago and htc g2/ vision, had it unlocked so i can have another sim card thats not tmobiles in.
i live in el salvador and my carrier is tigo and calls are perfectly fine and all but data connections are only edge! and i have no idea why??? i also have a x10 mini and i use the same apn and it connects to 3g
anyone know why and how to fix it?
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Did you check to make sure what GSM frequencies the carrier uses (sorry not familiar with El Salvador)? This sounds very similar to people trying to use G2's on AT&T / iPhones on T-mobile. Not all GSM carriers use the same frequencies for their service. If voice is working, but 3G data is not, this is very likely the issue. For example, AT&T operates both 2g and 3g on 850/1900, whereas T-mobile operates 2g on 850/1900 and 3G on 1700/2100; hence why voice and Edge can work, but 3G cannot.
Poking around a little, the X10 mini world phone version has an 850/900/1800/1900 for edge and 1900/2100 frequency radio for 3G data connection, although there are AT&T versions with slightly different bands too, which you may have I'm not sure.
The G2 runs on T-mobile in the US and has a 850/900/1800/1900 for edge and 1700/2100 radio for 3G data.
All according to Wikipedia from what I can scrounge up right now.
BTW I feel proud that I did this research lol. Enlightening.
I think tigo is at 850, is there anything I can do at this point?
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nonione said:
I think tigo is at 850, is there anything I can do at this point?
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no, you cant add more mhz bands. You should have checked this out before you bought it.
nonione said:
I think tigo is at 850, is there anything I can do at this point?
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If Tigo doesn't run 1700/2100 3g, there isn't anything you can do short of selling your G2 and buying a European Desire Z (same as G2) with the proper frequencies assuming you want the same type of phone. Shoulda checked this out lol just cuz it has a SIM slot doesn't mean it "just works" haha. sorry!
Hahah damn I'm screwed lol yeah I guess ill have to buy a european version I love this phone too much
Thanks a lot fot the help!
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Sell it, buy the canadian bell Desire Z (A7275) and you'll be fine. Its your only option if you want to keep the same phone with 3g data.
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Canadian bell that sounds easier to get ill look for it thanks
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nonione said:
Hahah damn I'm screwed lol yeah I guess ill have to buy a european version I love this phone too much
Thanks a lot fot the help!
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i didnt realize the euro version had different bands
Mog said:
i didnt realize the euro version had different bands
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Well the USA, Canada, and Euro ones all have different bands, depending on the carriers they are generally made for. The issue with the Euro ones can be that they don't come with English out of the box either
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Well the USA, Canada, and Euro ones all have different bands, depending on the carriers they are generally made for. The issue with the Euro ones can be that they don't come with English out of the box either
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even the uk ones?
Mog said:
even the uk ones?
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Hm? Well yes the UK ones are made for whatever bands the UK carriers run on.
Just how hard is it to have a G2 world phone? Can you add all possible bands?
I believe that the Canadian/European Desire Z is the world phone edition which carries band support for all GSM bands. It is the USA T-Mobile G2 that carries support for the GSM bands specifically for the US market. Correct me if I am wrong.
Regards.
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Just how hard is it to have a G2 world phone? Can you add all possible bands?
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No, you can't just add bands to a phone.
I've just moved to USA from Spain. I have a X10 and I went to Sprint to get a Voice & Data contract.
They said it is not possible because USA's SIM system is incompatible with my XPeria X10
Is that true? I cant use a european phone with an american MNO?
I'm guessing that you have an X10i? (x10a is the North American X10 variant).
Sprint isn't a GSM-SIM carrier. It's a CDMA service that uses a phone's hard coded ESN number, no simple portability option there.
If you want to use your X10i (and take advantage of 3G speeds) you have to pick either:
T-Mobile
T-Mobile ToGo prepaid
Simple Mobile prepaid
Cincinnati Bell Wireless
maybe Straight Talk prepaid?
If you don't mind edge,
AT&T and AT&T prepaid (and maybe some other prepaid companies)
Yes, I have a X10i, so that's the problem with Sprint. I'll choose another company.
Thanks! You helped me a lot
I've just signed up with tmob but my 3G indicator is not showing up? Any ideas what could be wrong. I've turned 3G on and apn settings seem to be fine? I have x10i
Would it be a problem using the AT&T branded SGH-I337 sim-unlocked phone with the T-Mobile SIM card here in the States?
I was told at T-Mobile store today that the voice calls and SMSs should be no problem, but mobile internet would be a big issue.
I don't know whether it's worth or even possible to reflash the phone with T-Moblie firmware.
The reason being I have 1 bar or signal at home (or even less when it rains), regular phone with international SIM card does not even pick up ATT - T-M only...
They gave me free ATT 3G MicroCell - got the full bar but in the weak areas other party still hears mostly distortion.
no,it be a problem, i bought my GF a T-Mobile unlocked S4 model M919 and she uses it on LTE here in canada all the time. Rogers and ATT have very similar networks so NO, it would def not be a problem
Everything will work. However data will only be 2G while you are on t-mobile
jeffrey1027 said:
Everything will work. However data will only be 2G while you are on t-mobile
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Would it be slower?
I'm currently using my I337 on t-mobile. Have no issues with anything, getting LTE data also
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You need a few things to unlock all the bands for full coverage on T-Mobile.
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I get 2g/3g/HSPA+ and LTE all great on my AT&T Galaxy S4 with T-Mobile SIM. Running Cyanogenmod 10.1 nightlies
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You need a few things to unlock all the bands for full coverage on T-Mobile.
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What are the things you need to do? Thanks. Trying to do this now.
It will work regardless. But if you want to make it pick up all of tmobiles bands you need to unlock aws.. I did it yesterday. Worked fine without it but works way better with it... Didn't take long and was easy. Just follow the steps
FYI you Dont need tmobiles firmware. You just need your phones frequency's unlocked so its more compatible to T-Mobile. Att uses 1900 frequency and T-Mobile uses 1700, 1900 and 2200 I believe. Atts phone dont have the other frequencies unlocked without you doing it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291589
Lol just realized I answered your question in the q and a section about this like an hour ago. Go look at your post
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Assuming I unlock the att g2 will I be able to get data on it and call, same with the verizon g2. Id be using a local carrier whos gsm is 900. i need an answer asap
Should do.
Where are you going? As you might need to make sure the local area sim is the right frequency's. But I'm sure it will.
Im from uk and i have always thought they had non removable sim cards in verizon.
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jonezy8873 said:
Should do.
Where are you going? As you might need to make sure the local area sim is the right frequency's. But I'm sure it will.
Im from uk and i have always thought they had non removable sim cards in verizon.
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The gsm frequency there is 900, its lebanon btw. also latest verizon phones have sim cards. Im afraid if i get the att g2 then calling will work but internet ( 3g or h+ ) wont work because i checked on atts site if their lg g2 will work in lebanon and it only said that voice will work and data will not but this is on their network, not a local network so I have no idea. I know the att g2 works on a gsm 900 frequency but does voice and internet come from this frequency or does the phone use another type of frequency to get internet. Or am i good to go even if only the gsm is compatible.