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So I was trying to mess around with CPU profiles and I noticed that the low end of the CPU is clocked at 1GHz. If I lower it with Rom Toolbox, it just goes right back up after I leave the menu. the profiles won't stick, governors don't make a difference, and I'm a little confused.
Can someone shed some light on this for me?
I thought the lowest speed was 384 MHz? Install CPU Spy and check what it says.
It is 384MHz. The lower frequency change because of project butter that make the cpu run at a higher frequency when you touch the screen.
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Dont you need a custom kernal in order to change the clock speeds?
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No, we can already change it but it won't stick since it has its own frequency management.
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Is this somewhat similar to perflocker in HTC devices? It had to be disabled to change any cpu settings AT ALL with the stock kernel.
hervelo said:
No, we can already change it but it won't stick since it has its own frequency management.
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That is why..
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ed10000 said:
I thought the lowest speed was 384 MHz? Install CPU Spy and check what it says.
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You're right. I guess it just has its own profile to set at 1GHz when the screen is on, because the CPU Spy showed it in Deep Sleep/384Mhz for the majority of the night.
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Hey guys, touch booster is really annoying on this phone. It pushes the phone to 1.06GHz everytime I touch it, and is starting to bug me.
Is there anyway to keep it scaling up properly?
I'm no expert at this stuff, but isn't this fast jump in CPU clock what pretty much makes Project Butter possible?
If I understand right (and I probably don't), I think this might have to do with with governor in-use. If your rooted; try using a different governor and then touching the screen.
Great, so now people are complaining about Project Butter's features... ok
How exactly does something like this bug you?
People are getting way too picky with this phone now. Relax, its a phone guys
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Next thread will be " This phone is too fast, how do I slow it down to keep up?"
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The CPU goes up when you touch it so it can be responsive and quick to your inputs. How is this so annoying?
If you root it you can lower the max or change the governor buy chances are you will lose much of your responsiveness.
I understand that it is good for us to discuss issues and problems but some of the things I am seeing here are just really nit picking and complaining about things that are not bad at all. We are a spoiled society of humans, some more than others i guess.
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Monk4Life said:
Next thread will be " This phone is too fast, how do I slow it down to keep up?"
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you joke but there's a surprising amount of people that underclock their cpu thinking it will save battery...
qwahchees said:
Hey guys, touch booster is really annoying on this phone. It pushes the phone to 1.06GHz everytime I touch it, and is starting to bug me.
Is there anyway to keep it scaling up properly?
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Get some CPU control app and change the minimum frequency from 1GHz to 384MHz.
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neotekz said:
you joke but there's a surprising amount of people that underclock their cpu thinking it will save battery...
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Under clocking will save battery in most cases but ot will also make your phone sluggish and slow depending on how much.
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richteralan said:
Get some CPU control app and change the minimum frequency from 1GHz to 384MHz.
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That will make your phone run so slow and crappy... Why have a decent cpu if the plan is to chop it? This defeats the entire purpose of having a 1.5ghz clock speed..
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Richieboy67 said:
That will make your phone run so slow and crappy... Why have a decent cpu if the plan is to chop it? This defeats the entire purpose of having a 1.5ghz clock speed..
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You have no idea what you are talking about.
Check the meaning of "MINIMUM CPU FREQUENCY".
P.S. O and btw I'm changed it to 384MHz on my Nexus 4. AND........wait for it........my nexus 4 is not slow and crappy........woo mind blown!
What I find interesting is on the nexus 4 the governor is on demand , and the scaling range is 0mhz- 1026mhz ( you can check using CPU spy +)
However on the nexus 10 , the governor is interactive and the scaling range is 0mhz -200mhz
I wonder why that is
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italia0101 said:
What I find interesting is on the nexus 4 the governor is on demand , and the scaling range is 0mhz- 1026mhz ( you can check using CPU spy +)
However on the nexus 10 , the governor is interactive and the scaling range is 0mhz -200mhz
I wonder why that is
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that app is broken.
Try No-frills CPU control, or even AnTuTu CPU Master.
Is it interactive on the nexus 4 then? I just checked on my n10 smd it still says interactive
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italia0101 said:
Is it interactive on the nexus 4 then? I just checked on my n10 smd it still says interactive
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I'm using no-frills and the default is ondemand, scaling from 1GHz to 1.5GHz.
What I changed is only the minimum frequency from 1GHz to 384MHz. Nothing more.
The scaling...
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I'm using no-frills and the default is ondemand, scaling from 1GHz to 1.5GHz.
What I changed is only the minimum frequency from 1GHz to 384MHz. Nothing more.
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Yea that's cool I get that . I just wonder why the governor is different on the nexus 10
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italia0101 said:
Yea that's cool I get that . I just wonder why the governor is different on the nexus 10
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Ask Google.
I have no idea. And I don't have a Nexus 10.
italia0101 said:
Yea that's cool I get that . I just wonder why the governor is different on the nexus 10
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Nexus 10 is a dual core tablet, not a phone. Check your PC some time or laptop. They scale totally differently than a phone does.
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Ive been getting smoother results underclocking the G2 at either 1.7 or 1.9 and knock on seems more quick to response, but when I tried video recording the 60 fps isn't smooth when you are clocked at the regular speed.. beware...I ran a benchmark on quadrant standard and got 17,250 constantly so it is underclocked per core... I want to hear your opinion on this and do you plan to underclock or already are. I feel like the ability to be more smooth within the UI helps a lot more now..let me know your thoughts!
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From using trickster mod and setcpu to underclock they only underclock cpu0 the other three still use the full frequency range.
What app are you using?
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No frills CPU control :0
At 1.9 my Antutu was the same add the One and oddly the graphics test dropped 15-20 frames even though we are not under clocking the GPU.
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That's really odd tbh o.o did you try quadrent as well? :0
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At 1.9 my Antutu was the same add the One and oddly the graphics test dropped 15-20 frames even though we are not under clocking the GPU.
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I got way higher even at 1.7ghz :0
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At 1.9 my Antutu was the same add the One and oddly the graphics test dropped 15-20 frames even though we are not under clocking the GPU.
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HeXaLox said:
I got way higher even at 1.7ghz :0
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You're saying that by underclocking, you're getting a smoother UI but lower benchmarks?
No i got a higher benchmark than the guy who replied on my post. I did get a smoother UI and everything is less laggy. Ill post a pic of 2.3ghz idk if its actually at 1.7ghz or 2.3ghz ill do another test
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You're saying that by underclocking, you're getting a smoother UI but lower benchmarks?
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All this is true. Just tried. It might be a TINY bit slower ui THOUGH
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What settings did toy use? Deadline? Noop? Interactive gov?
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I am using the app called No-frills CPU Control and for 1.7ghz I am using row and Ondemand as the I/O governor and same settings for the regular clock as well..
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What settings did toy use? Deadline? Noop? Interactive gov?
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Underclocked at 1.7ghz first then regular clock at 2.27ghz
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What settings did toy use? Deadline? Noop? Interactive gov?
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I am tending to believe that the regular clock speed is actually overclocked...just like how the galaxy s4 is overclocked 200mhz more than normal...however I could be wrong..
If you really want to see if this odd issue is actually happening download an app called Multicore CPU Control (the only app of its kind that seems to work with the LG G2). I use this to save battery by turning off all but one core, but it allows you full control over all your cores.
Download it, create a profile, and set each core to what you want. I had to save the profile first, then go back in to edit the latter 3 cores' frequencies.
I would suggest setting the min and max to the same and choosing Performance for the governor. Use a different app to set the scheduler.
Be sure to have something like Kernel Tuner to ensure that all your cores are running as you intended. If not, go back into Multicore CPU Control and re-save your profile again.
Would love to hear the results afterwards!
I used Multicore CPU Control.
The only way to set clock to CPU 1,2,3 is let them always active. If I leave dynamic for these cores, they still go up to 2,26 GHZ. I think this the reason why HeXaLox have a little decrement when underclock because it only did for one core.
Okay,so i made this thread so that development thread become less spammed with your questions.
Please,share your opinions here and ask questions,someone will answer you,and share your screenshots of battery life.
I personally use PegasusQ+VR,it gives great performance and good battery life.
My second choice would be Abyssplug+SIO,especcialy for the hotplug feature.
(In case you dont know what Hotplug is,its the feature that turns off the second core when your phone is not in use.)
I cant decide wich is better,tommorow ill test Hotplug+sio,and ill post screenshots of both tommorow.
Please,ask any questions here,dont spam Benz's threads.
Thank you
DeHuMaNiZeD said:
Okay,so i made this thread so that development thread become less spammed with your questions.
Please,share your opinions here and ask questions,someone will answer you,and share your screenshots of battery life.
I personally use PegasusQ+VR,it gives great performance and good battery life.
My second choice would be Abyssplug+SIO,especcialy for the hotplug feature.
(In case you dont know what Hotplug is,its the feature that turns off the second core when your phone is not in use.)
I cant decide wich is better,tommorow ill test Hotplug+sio,and ill post screenshots of both tommorow.
Please,ask any questions here,dont spam Benz's threads.
Thank you
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OnDemand + CFQ (Like in stock ROM) the only way that don´t dry my battery.
With that combination my phone is slow like hell..have you tried those that i wrote.
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DeHuMaNiZeD said:
With that combination my phone is slow like hell..have you tried those that i wrote.
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Yes, but my batteryd doesn't like them very much
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thats odd
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Hi, can you tell me the best combination of governors to use. I'm using latest cm
10.1 maclaw build with hotplug and noop, but i think CPU its not sleeping cause i loose about 5% battery in 2hours withought using my fone at all. Thanks
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Hotplug governor is indeed a joke, at least in Maclaw's CM (not surprised). There is no way to set it up for low battery drain /and/ reasonably smooth functionality. Right now I am using Ondemand + CFQ while playing with the powersave bias and up threshold parameters. The only thing I wish I had from Maclaw/Benz's kernel is the vr/sio schedulers.
You have VR and sio schelduer in Benz's kernel,and Abyssplug governor with real hotpulg feature,when you dont use the phone cpu shuts down one core and the remaining core runs on 200Mhz and 1% usage.
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I would gladly use that kernel if it didn't have the dirty flickering fix. And if it didn't require CM10.1 reboot edition.
Also, when I was on CM i ran a logcat with hotplug activated. The second core would often reactivate even if the phone wasn't doing anything, with the screen turned off, then soon turn off and after a few seconds repeat the process. Maybe this phone really needs the core.
What flicketing fix? I got no flickering on the latest Maclaws cm and benzs kernel..and it shuts down the core,you can see with system monitor when your screen is on..dunno for screen off,but i get like 1% drained for a hour with screen off
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The 63 fps refresh rate, which "fixes" the UI flickering.
And yes, I saw the second core turning off myself. However, I am not sure if it keeps being off enough time.
Well in maclaws rom i dont have flickering,but in olivers i had. I dont know,i got decent battery life. Not good as stock,but its ok
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Which is more battery friendly? Abyssplug or Pegasusq?
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Nemo1984 said:
Which is more battery friendly? Abyssplug or Pegasusq?
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Read this. It will help you to decide which is the best for your needs:good::good:
P.S: BTW, @DeHuMaNiZeD, if you want, add this link to your OP, so people can read it & learn.
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Which is more battery friendly? Abyssplug or Pegasusq?
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Pegasusq said to have hotplugging but doesnt seem to work with screen on
Based on what I read, my best guess would be Abyssplug. I'll run some tests and will post my results.
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Pegasusq said to have hotplugging but doesnt seem to work with screen on
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Yes, it only turn off one core when the screen off. I'm testing pegasusq + sio
For the next days, I'll be on abyssplug + sio.
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metalboy94 said:
The 63 fps refresh rate, which "fixes" the UI flickering.
And yes, I saw the second core turning off myself. However, I am not sure if it keeps being off enough time.
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And what exactly is so wrong with 63 fps refresh rate? Will your screen fry because of it? No it won't because it can't. Will your phone explode while being used? No it won't because it can't. What's the issue here then? Tell me.
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And what exactly is so wrong with 63 fps refresh rate? Will your screen fry because of it? No it won't because it can't. Will your phone explode while being used? No it won't because it can't. What's the issue here then? Tell me.
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Have you considered the battery drain implications? The battery is weak enough as it is, a higher than normal refresh rate only wastes more GPU power thus more battery.
hello guys.
i just want to ask this very simple question, what MAX lowest freq i set on the G2? stock at 2.3ghz. can i set it at 1.5ghz? will it battery life?
thanks
Yes you can adjust cpu but you should have root. If you have root then use setcpu
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thanks man! yes i have root, and i already set my Freq at 1.7ghz. so, will it somehow increase battery life? or battery will be the same?
thanks
Not that much if you do a lot yes but if you use it moderately it will be useless
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Create different profiles in setcpu . I had made a profile in which when i yurn off the screen the cpu comes to 252mhz(maximum) which saves battery
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