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So can anyone confirm that the striations or lines on the screen are normal??
Im talking about when you pull down the notifications bar there are light lines that come down vertically and soma cases are horizontal.
Please let me know I got 30 days with it. thanks!
azzeh3 said:
So can anyone confirm that the striations or lines on the screen are normal??
Im talking about when you pull down the notifications bar there are light lines that come down vertically and soma cases are horizontal.
Please let me know I got 30 days with it. thanks!
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my first nexus s had darker whites than the display model at the store. I would recommend comparing yours with the store display or another persons nexus s, I think this is the best way, since we cant physically see how your phone screen looks. good luck
Are you referring to the gray section where your service provider is listed? Or the very dark area where the notifications are listed?
If I stare I can see some lines in the gray area.
I do see a slight grid pattern in the power control widget.
No I'm talking about grey section where your messages show up
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I think its screen burn in already
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I don't have a Nexus S, but I have a Galaxy S i9000M which has a similar (if not exactly the same) screen. If I bring up a screen that is a solid colour, I do notice some imperfections like you describe. They are hardly noticeable though.
Weird. My nexus doesn't have that and I would know, I modded my nexus 1 to be pretty much like gingerbread 6 months back, massive burn in.
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actually no.... mine doesn't have any lines or defects.
the only lines are the horizontal ones separating the notifications.
I think I know what you mean. My N1 on certain backgrounds has very faint grey lines. Not always visible, even on white web pages
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Weird. My nexus doesn't have that and I would know, I modded my nexus 1 to be pretty much like gingerbread 6 months back, massive burn in.
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Why would that cause burn in more than anything else?
I don't know but I don't want it to get worse over time
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Yes, I can see it. I can see it on any AMOLED/SAMOLED phone I've ever come in contact with. It's the nature of AMOLED screens unlike most LCD screens. With AMOLED, each pixel is individually powered, and it's impossible to have each pixel (or subpixel) be identical, which leads to slight differences in output and color reproduction. An LCD screen is backlight by either florescent tubes or recently, LEDs, which produce an even backlight (usually) where the colors are controlled by filtering each pixel, rather than having to illuminate each pixel.
Anyway, I only really notice it when the brightness is at the minimum and it's very dark in the place I'm using my phone. If I crank up the brightness or if I'm in a well lit area, I don't notice it at all really. Although if it's VERY obvious, you might have a screen that's significantly lower quality than average... it happens, bad QC or something, exchange it.
Oh, and if you stare at a plasma TV long enough you'll notice the same thing... similar technology, each pixel illuminated individually.
Has anyone notice the vertical lines especially on gray backgrounds like the notification pull down?
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Yup. Easily noticeable if you put the phone on full brightness and drag down the pulldown menu.
My S2 had it much worse tho, was hoping it wouldn't happen with this phone. I guess all phone LCDs are like that?
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Yup. Easily noticeable if you put the phone on full brightness and drag down the pulldown menu.
My S2 had it much worse tho, was hoping it wouldn't happen with this phone. I guess all phone LCDs are like that?
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Yeah it sucks but I guess its better then blobs and dark black spots all over the screen like in amoled screens
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That's exactly what my s2 had. And yeah it's hardly noticeable if the screen isn't full brightness. I never have it on max anyway, I find it too bright and it ruins the contrast somewhat
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Yuuup I see it.
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Yep I have them as well but never noticed them before. I really had to look hard to see them, and only on full brightness. It's a non-issue for me.
i noticed this too...didn't have it as bad as my other n4 that i had to rma. i actually notice lines and blobs. mostly noticeable on grey backgrounds like jb menus. really hated the blobs on amoled screens but seems like lcd's get it too
One the biggest reasons I am hesitating to upgrade from my S3 is just that, defects... they seem rampant with this phone. I have not a single defect on my S3, and there are no screen oddity's to speak of.
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One the biggest reasons I am hesitating to upgrade from my S3 is just that, defects... they seem rampant with this phone. I have not a single defect on my S3, and there are no screen oddity's to speak of.
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You don't have lines or blobs on the s3? It's a amoled screen
I have an iphone 4 for 2 years and don't notice these line, Yet when I first got the Nexus I could see it right away, Looking at my old iphone 4 and no line at all. Most be a lg screen built quality.
Just got my n4 yesterday and it was flawless until earlier tonight while web browsing a vertical line appeared to the far left of the screen it sticks out like a sore thumb against white backgrounds like most web pages.its very irritating and even blinks in and out.I swore I'd never buy lg after the g2x screen disaster but had to its a nexus do I so sold my gs3 yesterday and now I'm stuck with this annoying line.even if I RMA it will take forever to get a new one.
Wait, the IPS+ on the Nexus 4 has vertical banding? I thought that that problem was exclusive to the Super AMOLED HD on the Galaxy Nexus. In fact, I exchanged 3 of them to get one with banding that didn't show on all backgrounds. So as I now understand it, this was not an AMOLED HD problem?
Could it be a software thing? My old Droid X's non-HD LCD never seemed to have these issues. Neither does the SLCD3 screen of the Droid DNA. Very weird.
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You don't have lines or blobs on the s3? It's a amoled screen
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Lol, I don't know what you've been reading about amoled screens but they're not as rampant with problems as everyone makes them out to be. I'm I'm my third phone with an amoled panel and they've all been perfect. No yellow tint, no blobs, etc. The only issue I ever encountered was the first s2i had, had a dead pixel. Aside from that they're incredible. Prefer them to any LCD screen personally, and I'm a full times graphics artist )
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Lol, I don't know what you've been reading about amoled screens but they're not as rampant with problems as everyone makes them out to be. I'm I'm my third phone with an amoled panel and they've all been perfect. No yellow tint, no blobs, etc. The only issue I ever encountered was the first s2i had, had a dead pixel. Aside from that they're incredible. Prefer them to any LCD screen personally, and I'm a full times graphics artist )
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I've had 2 S2 and 2 gnex. They all had lines or blobs
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I've had 2 S2 and 2 gnex. They all had lines or blobs
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I've had galaxy s 1,2,3 and gnex and none of them had lines or blobs in fact the only other phone I had screen problems with was also made by lg the g2x I exchanged twice all three had backlight bleeding
I have this too but very low, I have too be looking hard to see them. It's not very anoying but in the JB menu I can see them a little bit ... My last phone amoled was burning ...
I seeeeeeeee them thanks for pointing it out haha never noticed them before >_>
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So, is this normal or not ? I think so, but I'm not sure... Other report ?
I can hardly see them. You guys are really trying to be picky with the phone.
I started to agree with those who say if you don't like it, sell it on eBay.
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I can hardly see them. You guys are really trying to be picky with the phone.
I started to agree with those who say if you don't like it, sell it on eBay.
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Yeah maybe your right. So i think every body have thèse line but very very hard too sée ? It's not really an issue ?
Hey guys,
I've had my nexus 4 for a week now and I am super pleased by it. The phone runs like a dream.
The only issue I seem to be having is that I can see the IPS sensors even with the screen on!.
I'm talking about the little transparent-gray squares all over it, not about the super awesome dots that you can see with direct sunlight.
This is flipping me out!
Is anybody else having this problem with it?
I can't appreciate the beautiful screen because of this.
Also, when displaying single color frames specially dark ones, like on the clock app , the colors are not really solid.
I get this vertical stripes that are approximate to the color but not quite it.
Im posting a screenshot but I don't think that youll be able to notice it since it may be a hardware problem.
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That's a hardware thing, not visible in screenshots. You'd need to take an actual picture.
Are you referring to the dot grid that is visible in direct sunlight? Everyone has is. It's because of the fact that the screen is integrated into the glass.
I think it looks kind of cool but that might just be me.
Edit: Gotta read the whole thread first I guess you're not talking about the dots. I have no idea what you're talking about then.
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Question to the OP. Do YOU see anything wrong with those images, or is it a hardware problem? I can't see any difference between your screen shots and my phone.
Damn it man, now i see them too -.-
I went to the clock app, and i can see some stripes on the left but mine are vertical.
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That's a hardware thing, not visible in screenshots. You'd need to take an actual picture.
Are you referring to the dot grid that is visible in direct sunlight? Everyone has is. It's because of the fact that the screen is integrated into the glass.
I think it looks kind of cool but that might just be me.
Edit: Gotta read the whole thread first I guess you're not talking about the dots. I have no idea what you're talking about then.
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Hello after using my nexus for almost 2 weeks today i noticed some vertical line (of Dots) on my screen under direct sunlight...these dots very moving and can be seen with screen off also..
is there any thing to worry..
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Hello after using my nexus for almost 2 weeks today i noticed some vertical line (of Dots) on my screen under direct sunlight...these dots very moving and can be seen with screen off also..
is there any thing to worry..
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Haha Dude that's the digitizer. Don't worry. It's all cool.
Chill out people.. Its just the digitizer that you can see, so close to the screen for better touchscreen responsiveness. The most likely reason you can still see it with your device screen on is that you have your brightness too low.. Put it up
even amoled screen are also the same
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even amoled screen are also the same
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When I first got my Nexus4 the weird screen was the first thing that popped out at me. Between the visible digitizer matrix that glints when it catches the sun wrong, to the odd rectangles that can be seen behind the screen I was initially bummed and thought about returning the phone. It doesn't even bother me anymore
This is my 8th android device and the first one that has a funky screen like this, but it really isnt a big deal. Under 95 percent of conditions it looks really nice
I have been able to see the digitizer on every single capacitive screen i have ever owned.
@David_Azar I have to agree.. initially I was disgusted by how prominent the digitzer pattern was, I've never had ANY screen show it as much as the Nexus 4 does.
However, the vertical stripes you're referencing is commonly referred to as "banding". I have this on my Nexus 4 as well, most visible on grays (especially darker grays).
I have been doing some research and I believe the banding issue will reduce over time. If you check your screen when displaying a white background at max brightness, such as gmail or chrome browser, you should see a slight yellowing of the whites. It appears this can be due to the adhesive they used to glue the digitizer to the screen not curing completely. After several weeks of use, the heat from the processor will help cure the adhesive causing the yellow to disappear after a while.
I cannot say for certain that it will completely resolve the banding issue, but I have noticed that the worst banding is in the areas where the yellow tint is most prominent. I have also been testing my display every day to monitor any changes, and I am happy to report I do see a minor reduction in both the yellowing and banding (I've only had my Nexus 4 for five days so far).
Give it a couple of weeks, run some intensive games to get the processor to heat up every day. Keep brightness at max for the next few weeks and let us know if you see any improvements.
As for the pattern of the digitizer in the glass.. it's not going anywhere so get used to it. I don't like it much either but it seems to be less prominent once you start becoming used to it.
Good luck, let us know how it goes
Hey man,
Curiously enough I've never had the yellow tints everybody's complaining about. I'm used to The digitizer matrix ( rectangles) buy at first it was really weird. I was coming from a non HD display ( a RAZR Maxx) so naturally, I expected that my N4 would have a perfect screen.
I've had my N4 for almost two months now and the banding has not reduced. I made some research over the last month and I found that with some kernel settings for saturation the banding is reduced. I'm not sure if it is really reduced or the clear gray tones that have the banding just don't appear anymore because of the saturation.
The Trinity kernel reduces this a bit but like I said, your screen will look life a f*** ing AMOLED.
Right now I'm using the kernel provided by the 123 FAUX CLOCK project. I'm using the LG factory presets and for the most part I'm really happy with the screen. If you or anybody else comes up with a different solution, let others know on this thread.
Peace brothers.
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Just for kicks, if you stop by a T-mobile location compare your screen with the display model and see if you can spot the yellow tint on either screen (on a white background)
I will update this thread with my phone's progress (or lack thereof if it stops improving).
I get banding issues also, more noticeable in grey backgrounds; but I can I see them in other colors if I look hard enough
I use a dark black theme to avoid looking at those bands
I can say this. I've had a ton of devices..latest was s3 and I'll just say I'm stoked to have IPS over pen tile. Just knowing HD was plagued by this alone was enough for me to ditch Sammy all together especially after seeing rgb on note 2 was no better. This is my opinion of Samsung's design ...I know why they chose it but I can't and won't buy another amoled until they get another tech in order. So now I say kudos on IPS but I'm surely a screen purest and I found these hardware screen/digitizer artifacts you speak of and to me its so much less noticeable. Your not alone. You just like good clean HD like me. Lol HTC one should be a nice one to check out...
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That would be a little like kicking myself in the nuts. Nothing good can come out of that.
If I spot the yellow tints once, then I will always look for it. I hate doing that with the banding but it's an automatic thing.
I dunno why but it really bums me out whenever I have a problem with my phone.
Let's keep posting of someone finds a solution or something .
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I've got the quite visible digitizer rectangles too. In anything less than a dark room if the phone is not on a perfect angle they are visible.
I can't really tell if "everyone's" is like that, or just some are "worse" than others.
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Here's an image with them visible with the screen on (and at an angle) - difficult to take a photo of - but much easier to see with the naked eye.
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Few more with the screen off.
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I've got the quite visible digitizer rectangles too. In anything less than a dark room if the phone is not on a perfect angle they are visible.
I can't really tell if "everyone's" is like that, or just some are "worse" than others.
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Here's an image with them visible with the screen on (and at an angle) - difficult to take a photo of - but much easier to see with the naked eye.
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Went and checked out an Optimus G today (Nexus 4 isn't actually released in Japan). Given that a Nexus 4 is just a remodeled Optimus G I thought it'd be worth comparing screens. The digitizer matrix is barely visible on the G I was looking at with the screen OFF. With it on you could almost see it at some angles. It is much more visible on my Nexus 4 which you can almost always see with the screen off and at an angle and often with the screen on.
I'm leaning towards my phone being "less than a perfect example of a Nexus 4" and not the "norm" at the moment.
they are much more noticeable in Rev 11 devices and they where barely visible in Rev 10, i am sure that there is a technical reason behind it
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they are much more noticeable in Rev 11 devices and they where barely visible in Rev 10, i am sure that there is a technical reason behind it
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See that explains it a little more. Not sure I see the logic in putting a screen with pretty decent viewing angles on a device and then sticking a really visible digitizer on it though.
I've contacted the seller and I guess I'll wait and see what they say in regard to it.
I've used at least 5 units and besides mine, which is creaky and has a few other screen issues, have yellowing. How come so many are yellow?
No yellow tint here, but to be fair, I wasn't really looking for it. I haven't looked at my screen with a pure white background though to be sure.
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No yellow tint here, but to be fair, I wasn't really looking for it. I haven't looked at my screen with a pure white background though to be sure.
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No yellow tint here either and I did check with a full white screen well a pretty much blank web page
I have seen a redder tint on the N4 than my previous phone, but it is probably that the other was bluer.
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No yellow tint here either and I did check with a full white screen well a pretty much blank web page
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+1 mine came perfect and after 6+ months still perfect without issues
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+1 mine came perfect and after 6+ months still perfect without issues
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+2 Mine is really good stock. When I tryed some of the custom ROM/KERNEL combos out there, it had a bluish tint... Weird. Stock for me. No creaking or anything else going on either. If it makes a difference, it is a newer build with the nubs on the back.
No tint
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A lot of people really on had this issue and it went away for some over time. Dunno if that was a placebo though. Also you can fix it with using kernel with color rgb and gamma control.
We see you meow on our nexus⁴ can we haz some more?
Mine came with yellow tint but went away after a month or so.
Well I'm glad to know other people have had positive experiences with their nexus 4, because I've been having the worst luck in terms of build quality with every nexus device I've owned. I just posted a huge rant about my experiences with the nexus line of products (specifically the nexus 4) and how what you pay for really is in most cases what you get.
I paid 99¢ for my wife's HTC One X.
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what you pay for really is in most cases what you get.
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You pay 650-700$ for an unlocked galaxy s4 and you still get display burn in after a while..
Or you pay the say amount for a galacy s3 and get the corrupted EMMC and sudden death syndrome. (I had an s3 with an affected chip).
One more point, the nexus 4 sells outside the playstore for over 500$/600$. The 300/350$ playstore price is not a regular price.
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if you mean the whole screen is yellow tinted from bad calibration, then yes. the yellow splotches that ive heard about, no. ive only seen the yellow tint for a matter of minutes when i first got my phone and flashed it to 100% stock, a custom kernel will completely get rid of it.
No yellow tint on any of the three nexus 4 devices I've used. Now my galaxy nexus... that's yellow!
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No yellow tint but when my nexus gets warm, i have a yellow blob at the bottom left corner. Goes after it cools down.
Not great i.m.o. Does anyone else get this?
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No yellow tint but when my nexus gets warm, i have a yellow blob at the bottom left corner. Goes after it cools down.
Not great i.m.o. Does anyone else get this?
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Sounds like the glue
“It is said that power corrupts, but actually it's more true that power attracts the corruptible. The sane are usually attracted by other things than power.” ― David Brin >^.^
I got 2 yellow spots on mine but its only noticeable on white backgrounds... One is on the bottom left of the screen and the other is at the bottom right of the screen just right above the navigation buttons
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Since this subforum is so dead, I figured I'd make some small talk...
Am I the only one who loves their notification LED? I was very disappointed to see the gray demo units at Best Buy actually have a pinstripe pattern under the glass that noticeably obscures/dulls the LED, and the pattern is even applied over the touchkeys, so they have a weird, wavy look to them. A foolish decision by Samsung, IMO.
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Since this subforum is so dead, I figured I'd make some small talk...
Am I the only one who loves their notification LED? I was very disappointed to see the gray demo units at Best Buy actually have a pinstripe pattern under the glass that noticeably obscures/dulls the LED, and the pattern is even applied over the touchkeys, so they have a weird, wavy look to them. A foolish decision by Samsung, IMO.
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Good to see you over here in the Note 4 area! Can't wait to see what you come up with.
I haven't actually seen the note 4 in person yet but i'll have my hands on one in a couple days. Are you talking about the same type of pattern under the glass of the note 2 and its touchkeys?
Yes that's the way it is on my Note 4 :/
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Funny you should mention that - I just noticed it with my Note 4 about 30 minutes ago :$
Just got my note 4 and see the same thing. At least for the soft key buttons i dont mind it because i always keep them off
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ffolkes said:
Since this subforum is so dead, I figured I'd make some small talk...
Am I the only one who loves their notification LED? I was very disappointed to see the gray demo units at Best Buy actually have a pinstripe pattern under the glass that noticeably obscures/dulls the LED, and the pattern is even applied over the touchkeys, so they have a weird, wavy look to them. A foolish decision by Samsung, IMO.
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Same pattern on mine. Didn't notice it on the white one set up at best buy. Not a fan of the obscurity. Stoked to see you picked one up too ffolkes!
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Same pattern on mine. Didn't notice it on the white one set up at best buy. Not a fan of the obscurity. Stoked to see you picked one up too ffolkes!
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I dont know if its design or corner cutting. I dont like it, it looks cheap. Even the notification light has it. Luckly its only these items.
I don't have mine yet so I don't know. But you're saying this dulls the notification light? maybe Samsung did this so people complain less about their notification light colors when their phone is charging/charged in the middle of the night in a dark room
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I don't have mine yet so I don't know. But you're saying this dulls the notification light? maybe Samsung did this so people complain less about their notification light colors when their phone is charging/charged in the middle of the night in a dark room
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Well if they did it for any reason on purpose it is stupid. I usually don't mind software related mishaps with LED because apps and kernel devs usually give us a ton of options to workaround it. But this is the way they designed the phone from a manufacturing standpoint. Blah.
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Black one has the stripes but my wife's white one doesnt.
I like the pinstripe and keeps it from looking plain. I always turn off the bottom lights, i know the buttons are there, so that's not an issue.
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I like the pinstripe on the notification light. I like the dulling effect. I on the other hand hate the stripes on the lower buttons. It gives it an appearance that the lighted buttons are flawed or pixels are burnt out.
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I don't like the dimmed LED. I use Light Flow, maybe my favorite program on Android. I rely on LED notifications almost every minute of every day. I'm missing the LED on the Nexus 5.
I don't have that problem on my white Sprint Note 4 at all. Not on the buttons or the notification light. I'm really glad because I saw that pinstriped look on the buttons on some YouTube videos and think it looks awful.
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White spots on aluminum bezel
Anyone else have 4 white squares on their aluminum bezel on the top and bottom? There's 2 near the glass and 2 near the back on the top and bottom, no idea what they are or what they're for.
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Anyone else have 4 white squares on their aluminum bezel on the top and bottom? There's 2 near the glass and 2 near the back on the top and bottom, no idea what they are or what they're for.
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Yes, they're gaps to allow signal to get through the metal frame to the antenna.
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Cool, thanks for the info.
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I don't like the pinstripes; period. Last three plus years, the plain black bezel matched to the dark super Amoled native screen gave the black Galaxy a certain distinction that other OEMs with LCD couldn't match with their lighter looking native screen. Not appreciating this look; not so bad under low light but that wasn't the reaction Samsung hoped for. Thumbs down; face Palm. Not liking either of the browsers included either. Why no auto fit? Samsung's response is that natively, auto-fit exists; reset your settings. Nope. Second response: you can manually adjust the screen with pinch to zoom/minimize. Otherwise, I'm very pleased with this phone and look forward to development in this forum.
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stared at both black and white side by side at best buy the other day for a bit, the white one definitely has the pin stripe look to it, its just a lot less noticeable. The only would offer to let me pre-order a black device so..guess ill look forward to stripes whenever they come in...
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stared at both black and white side by side at best buy the other day for a bit, the white one definitely has the pin stripe look to it, its just a lot less noticeable. The only would offer to let me pre-order a black device so..guess ill look forward to stripes whenever they come in...
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This is my opinion on the 8 total white (possible 8x ir led) squares on the bezel.
http://www.theverge.com/2014/9/3/6098745/samsung-gear-vr-oculus-announcement-hands-on
It is for vr. To be used with a Xbox-one live camera for positional/tilt head movement in conjuction with a PC.
As soon as I saw these 8 squares I had a 99.9% confidence that note4 is vr ready! As I have been balls deep in oculus news!
The Exynos has 20-30% stronger gpu that never overheats, so it never throttles.
My sm-910C Thailand is a cool running gaming monster so far. Better than all phones in benches so far..... only 75% slower than i7 [email protected] 4.8ghz [email protected] For open es 3.0 bench with t-rex
34fps 1440p t-rex in my pocket. ......
Thank you XDA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!