My thoughts on the future of Motorola Webtop and ICS - Atrix 4G General

I still love webtop, however with ICS I think it's going to change a bit. Since ICS is a combination of phone and tablet interfaces I think plugging in your phone to either the lapdock or a TV/monitor will go from the small phone to the larger tablet display.
I'd also like to see this on more phones as well.
Anyone have any thoughts or comments?

Webtop
While the idea is awesome, I think Mootoo will continually screw it up and keep it totally dependent on their architecture rendering it useless except for remedial work. Now if Google/Android were to pick this up and run with it, that would be a totally different story.

Recon Freak said:
While the idea is awesome, I think Mootoo will continually screw it up and keep it totally dependent on their architecture rendering it useless except for remedial work. Now if Google/Android were to pick this up and run with it, that would be a totally different story.
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Kinda funny that when I "want" Google to get more hands on (with Motorola) they are busy sitting in the background and IMO making my Gmail more ugly with their time...
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ccrows said:
Kinda funny that when I "want" Google to get more hands on (with Motorola) they are busy sitting in the background and IMO making my Gmail more ugly with their time...
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Gotta agree with you there. Why the hell do they feel the need to screw with what works? I have to wonder if they ever actually ask any users what they want at all.
I see no benefit whatsoever to the new interface/layout, just another thing to have to get used to. And yes, it is ugly.

nunjabusiness said:
Gotta agree with you there. Why the hell do they feel the need to screw with what works? I have to wonder if they ever actually ask any users what they want at all.
I see no benefit whatsoever to the new interface/layout, just another thing to have to get used to. And yes, it is ugly.
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It loads much much faster. The javascript is lighter. Yes definitely more ugly.

Odd idea but here goes. Has anyone thought of trying out androidx86 on the webtop?
Much like a custom debian/ubuntu install would work. I mean it's not just for x86 processors as they have a Tegra2 ICS build out now.
I unfortunately don't know enough to do this myself.

I'm gonna go read up on this androidx86 thing sounds very interesting

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TAT 3D interface working on a desire

Hi Everyone
The Engadget show, demo'd some great UI's from TAT using 3D on a desire!
Take a look:
Engadget Show around 59min http://podcasts.aolcdn.com/engadget/videos/show/engadget_show_013_hd.mp4
or direct on youtube:
3D Map UI: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InBOO8jrnM0
could be a real possibility! Hope its gets leaked!
2D/3D List:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I5reODnVdc
The clip from Engadget is much better, the host even jokes about the apk file
OH MY LIFE!
Been waiting on news from TAT for months. Glad to see it working on the Desire. Doubt itll leak though, theyve been testing for a year or so and no one has dropped anything. Dont wven know if any testers had posted anything about it.
Sent from my HTC Desire
The demo showcases what is possible with the desires hardware and possible routes for future smartphone UI's
It can offer us so much more. Just need more devs on board!
Well, if we can generated a lot of interest, we might see some movement from TAT!
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Just shows that HTC arent the only ones to make a great overlay system on Android. Theyve taken the benchmark and gone an extra mile with their work.
I absolutely love everything ive seen from TAT, its just visually stunning and looks easy to use. Heard they arent going to release it publically via the market etc, but that was a while ago and its come a long way since then.
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wow thats awesome.
hope its not true that they wont release it publicly
thats pretty immense.
not a fan of sense, and android being ugly, this pretty much has me gobsmacked.
would happily kill people to get this.
I'm sure someone would be able to "acquire" this, seeing as the people here have repeatedly performed the impossible, and done nothing short of miracles
I look forward to this, even more than gingerbread or the new sense
only problem now, this will now haunt my dreams till it's on my desire
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thats pretty immense.
not a fan of sense, and android being ugly, this pretty much has me gobsmacked.
would happily kill people to get this.
I'm sure someone would be able to "acquire" this, seeing as the people here have repeatedly performed the impossible, and done nothing short of miracles
I look forward to this, even more than gingerbread or the new sense
only problem now, this will now haunt my dreams till it's on my desire
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Over a year of testing on old devices and now up to date ones, not a single apk has been leaked. Theyve done the best job at keeping it hush than any other devs and im impressed by it. Annoyed, but impressed
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They have apparently released a few TAT home beta "previews"
"Why wasn't I part of the UX Preview?
We were completely overwhelmed by the number of people who signed up. To keep things under control and take care of feedback in a good way, we could send the preview out to only a few of the 60,000 who offered to participate."
http://tat.se/home/
Surely someone would of leaked it, but heh.
EDIT: It seems like the UI is a "for sale" basis to vendors who want a custom UI. So no marketplace apk, maybe a flashable zip, but chances are, it's going to be like sense. A major annoyance
Found a Fuse concept phone bearing the TAT3D which has been designed by thealloy.com, who, judging by their website, have worked with several large UK companies to bring "interesting" styles to the home...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XURPEMBBgIU&NR=1 and http://thealloy.com/#news_27
Danifamous said:
EDIT: It seems like the UI is a "for sale" basis to vendors who want a custom UI. So no marketplace apk, maybe a flashable zip, but chances are, it's going to be like sense. A major annoyance
Found a Fuse concept phone bearing the TAT3D which has been designed by thealloy.com, who, judging by their website, have worked with several large UK companies to bring "interesting" styles to the home...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XURPEMBBgIU&NR=1 and http://thealloy.com/#news_27
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Yes that may be, but since they got it working on the desire there must be some kind of apk that works. We'll just have to wait and see...
It looks like TAT does not deal directly with end users, but only with OEMs or manufacturers
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neuromacer said:
It looks like TAT does not deal directly with end users, but only with OEMs or manufacturers
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i would sell my bird to get my hands on this
So...
Who has contacts at TAT?
Oh my ***! Astonishing!
Any Swede here who lives near Malmö who can go visit them?
Great eye candy...yeah. Practical...no. I mean, who looks at their phone when its parallel to the ground. Everyone tilts it a little bit. So imagine tilting it, and the view changes!!! And all you wanted was a simple contact list!!! So i think i'll pass on this one.
Sent a few emails to thealloy.com, trying to find out some info about the Rom on the FUZE, but I doubt they'll be happy sharing the Rom from their new phone...
Sent from my Desire...by magic!
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Great eye candy...yeah. Practical...no. I mean, who looks at their phone when its parallel to the ground. Everyone tilts it a little bit. So imagine tilting it, and the view changes!!! And all you wanted was a simple contact list!!! So i think i'll pass on this one.
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maybe you will be able to set the way the orientation sensor works to suit you needs that would be cool
jniranjan said:
Great eye candy...yeah. Practical...no. I mean, who looks at their phone when its parallel to the ground. Everyone tilts it a little bit. So imagine tilting it, and the view changes!!! And all you wanted was a simple contact list!!! So i think i'll pass on this one.
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You can enable/disable that feature, meaning you can have it locked at your preferred view.
jniranjan said:
Great eye candy...yeah. Practical...no. I mean, who looks at their phone when its parallel to the ground. Everyone tilts it a little bit. So imagine tilting it, and the view changes!!! And all you wanted was a simple contact list!!! So i think i'll pass on this one.
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Without actually using the app, how can one dismiss the concept so quickly? I guess the tilt with have accelerateometer setting allowing you to adjust sensitivity. If you need a simple contact list, open the stock contact widget!
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[Q] What do you think of the new market?

To me it just seems much more cluttered and slower.
The slower part really doesn't bother me as much as the cluttering.
Plus the "carousal" hangs too low allowing only a few apps to be seen at a time.
I expected better functionality not a "prettier" design.
mattykinsx said:
It just seems much more cluttered and slower.
The slower part really doesn't bother me as much as the cluttering.
Plus the "carousal" hangs too low allowing only a few apps to be seen at a time.
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just you my market is fine no lag not cluttered .. i say get use to it once its pushed in sure its here to stay
CheesyNutz said:
just you my market is fine no lag not cluttered .. i say get use to it once its pushed in sure its here to stay
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You don't think the individual screen, when you select an app, is just obnoxious?
mattykinsx said:
It just seems much more cluttered and slower.
The slower part really doesn't bother me as much as the cluttering.
Plus the "carousal" hangs too low allowing only a few apps to be seen at a time.
I expected better functionality not a "prettier" design.
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The design really is awful. Some complaints:
1. Why isn't the full description shown? It's one of the most important things! And you only get maybe 12 words by default. Useless and annoying to be forced to hit "more" every single time.
2. The labels are just as annoying. Single words without a description would have been fine, we end up seeing more text about what a generic UI labels means instead of what the actual app you are looking at does.
3. Bring back the old tabs. Way too much information at one time. As you said it's cluttered.
4. Again like you said, the top carousel occupies up to 1/2 of the screen. Why?
That said, the new Market looks A LOT better in landscape. Still has a lot of the same problems but at least the huge space that the carousel takes up is a little more forgiving in that orientation.
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4. Again like you said, the top carousel occupies up to 1/2 of the screen. Why?
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Yeah, I fear what this would look like on a smaller screen!
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You don't think the individual screen, when you select an app, is just obnoxious?
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Nope fine for me. Imho people find the stupidest crappy to complain about.
Not saying you in general but overall.
New market is fine imho if people don't like it learn to code get a degree get google to hire you and make something better.
Hell if enough people cry and whine about they might change it
from my phone duh
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Nope fine for me. Imho people find the stupidest crappy to complain about.
Not saying you in general but overall.
New market is fine imho if people don't like it learn to code get a degree get google to hire you and make something better.
Hell if enough people cry and whine about they might change it
from my phone duh
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So, others think the new market is flawed but their opinions are "stupid and crappy" and if they don't like the new market, they should "code one themselves" and "stop whining"?
However, you like the new market just fine and, of course, your opinion is not "stupid and crappy" at all.
Got it.
There are both good and bad on the new market. It seems like they rushed it out instead of trying it for a while to see if they even like it. I agree that not being able to see the whole description without hitting the more button is bad. The more button should be used to view the other less useful stuff at the bottom of the page like the developers email and similar products and not the product description that you are trying to view. I do like the new look, but do agree the carousel hangs too low and does not allow for more apps to be viewed on the screen. I do like the looks of the new market, but they could have done some things differently to make it a better user experience. I know that this is what it is and I will deal with it, but I do have the right to complain about the things I don't like. I will deal with because I have to, but I feel that a lot of folks are going to complain and that another update fixing some of these issues is imminent.
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So, others think the new market is flawed but their opinions are "stupid and crappy" and if they don't like the new market, they should "code one themselves" and "stop whining"?
However, you like the new market just fine and, of course, your opinion is not "stupid and crappy" at all.
Got it.
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No opinions are like assh¤les everyone has one. Mines no more important than the other.
from my phone duh
There are a lot of devs that are royally pissed off about this update, people outside the US were having almost all of their orders declined and in turn losing money.
how do u install the new market
I already dumped it myself. To much going on. Half the screen is gone by the carousel. It will prolly grow on us once we are all forced to have it.
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I'm still on the old market. Change is good people.
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DirtyShroomz said:
I'm still on the old market. Change is good people.
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Change is good? There's good change and then there's bad change. I usually love any change - I don't love this.
Dear Google,
As much as I like change, this new market design is simply atrocious. Nobody is going to use the scrolling view on top, and it takes 2/3 of the screen. You tried to fit a square in a circle, and did so poorly. It reminds me of a xbox marketplace; just a bunch of graphic throw up. Now, I like having everything on one page, but why minimize the description? The most important part of buying and or upgrading is the description.
On top of that, the placement and order of the pages feel like a maze to me. There is no indication how far back you can go in the application without being sent to your home screen.
While I am sure this app will serve its purpose, I really do expect more from Google come next market update.
From,
A concerned Android enthusiast
How do i get it? i still have the old one...
If you really want to try out the new market it's right here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=869522
If you think it's too cluttered, set your lcd_density = 162. That'll take care of it.
Award Tour said:
Change is good? There's good change and then there's bad change. I usually love any change - I don't love this.
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I don't think you love anything android
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drmacinyasha said:
If you think it's too cluttered, set your lcd_density = 162. That'll take care of it.
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And make everything else look terrible lol.
I created this thread to get other people's opinions. Everyone's opinion is as valid as the next so let's try in keep that in mind when posting.
Totally added a poll.

Why all the Atrix hate?

Hi everyone!
Long time browser of these forums, but decided to join since I switched from my Iphone 3gs to the Atrix 4g.
Just a question, why so much hate for this phone? Maybe I'm totally in love due to the fact that I'm discovering my freedom on Android (well most of it do to moto/att locking some stuff) but I still think the phone is wonderful.
The only issue is I agree about the screen not being amazing like some of the other Android phones I've seen, but regardless next to my friends G2 and my girlfriends Inspire, my phone is blazing fast, has a pretty good battery (new toy syndrom I'm using it like a monster and It still has not died by the night time start at 8/9am put back in charger about 1/2am with 20% left) and the camera is fine for a smartphone.
I guess it just seems like a lot of hate and I'm wondering if I'm missing something that I should be aware of?
Take care and I hope to be more active in this awesome community.
MrSexyMan
we want everything to be perfect, thats how we are.
ronan_zj said:
we want everything to be perfect, thats how we are.
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Yep. That's the way it is. If you have had tried Inspire, you would love HTC more.
Well I for one really appreciate all the hate, it is great!
It saves me money.
I too am looking for the perfect phone the one that will change my life. Something amazing and spectacular.
The Atrix really looked amazing at first but now that people have it in hand, it seems a little...meh.
smitty1 said:
Well I for one really appreciate all the hate, it is great!
It saves me money.
I too am looking for the perfect phone the one that will change my life. Something amazing and spectacular.
The Atrix really looked amazing at first but now that people have it in hand, it seems a little...meh.
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Most people take the time to post "meh", but many more dont post the "ahhh". We all know this. Go to ANY forum whether it be Android, Apple or Blackberry and you'll see plenty of "meh" in each.
The smart thing to do is sit back and wait for a few patches to hit or buy a phone that's been in the market for some time and has all the things smoothed out.
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I too am looking for the perfect phone the one that will change my life. Something amazing and spectacular.
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What phone has ever fit that description?
dlazer said:
What phone has ever fit that description?
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If you ask all the sheep in the world, it's the iPhone.... with the more GB's.... and the WiFi's
When you go to Inspire forum, u will see how ppl hate Atrix, they feel the Atrix is ****, cheap, ect. ect..
ill admit that i am trolling this site to get some of the feedback on the atrix. i for one would have thought it would have kicked as5 (meaning better reviews). i like reading the the good and bad remarks from users here. i applaude some of the honesty/personal opinions of people who like and didnt like it.
Cause many people (including myself) are from some previous flagship Android phones. While Atrix 4G is been described as "Revolutionary" product, some features are degraded due to Tegra2/Moto. This is where the disappointment come from.
The things that are holding me back
are the Moto blur and the locked down boot loader.
I still have my captivate but I'm itching to move up to the new dual cores. And I got sucked in with Atrix by the lap top dock. That turned out to be a real downer, 500$ for a monitor keyboard and a mouse....what are you insane?
I will wait it out and keep my captivate, maybe the galaxy s2 will make its way over here, and before it does I can read the board and see how people like it over their in Euro Disney.
The ability of running roms really came in handy on the captivate, since I have been running froyo for a long time.
I came from the captivate which sucks...slow and short on memory. The atrix is amazing in every respect. People who think otherwise don’t know how to use it.
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smitty1 said:
The things that are holding me back
are the Moto blur and the locked down boot loader.
I still have my captivate but I'm itching to move up to the new dual cores. And I got sucked in with Atrix by the lap top dock. That turned out to be a real downer, 500$ for a monitor keyboard and a mouse....what are you insane?
I will wait it out and keep my captivate, maybe the galaxy s2 will make its way over here, and before it does I can read the board and see how people like it over their in Euro Disney.
The ability of running roms really came in handy on the captivate, since I have been running froyo for a long time.
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Coming from someone who knows moto and their locked boot loaders (I own a Droid X), I can say it doesn't pose a problem. The dev. community is very creative and found ways arround it. I'm sure the same will happen to the Atrix.
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chbennett said:
Coming from someone who knows moto and their locked boot loaders (I own a Droid X), I can say it doesn't pose a problem. The dev. community is very creative and found ways arround it. I'm sure the same will happen to the Atrix.
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Yeah, but by the time it happens, if it happens, there'll be other offerings at the table (Samsung, LG, HTC).
All of which will be more mod friendly, and don't come locked with motoblur *shudders*
panflute said:
I came from the captivate which sucks...slow and short on memory. The atrix is amazing in every respect. People who think otherwise don’t know how to use it.
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How is 512mb "short on memory"
panflute said:
I came from the captivate which sucks...slow and short on memory. The atrix is amazing in every respect. People who think otherwise don’t know how to use it.
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You don't know how to use captivate. Captivate is only slightly slower than Atrix 4G.
elementaldragon said:
If you ask all the sheep in the world, it's the iPhone.... with the more GB's.... and the WiFi's
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lmao... "I don't care." "I want the white one."
amtrakcn said:
You don't know how to use captivate. Captivate is only slightly slower than Atrix 4G.
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Out of all phones I've owned the Captivate has been the most laggy. You shouldn't have to worry about undoing and redoing a lag-fix every time you want to install a new rom. The Captivate is an amazing device don't get me wrong. However the short time I've had the Atrix I've been very impressed. 2800 Quadrant on a stock phone? 37-38 Linpack?? NUTS! I'm sure that could change as I'm not sure if quadrant is optimized for Dual Core. But I've noticed absolutely no lag, the accessories are amazing, the screen is super sharp(although I think I still prefer my Nexus S screen ATM so far..) and hopefully we will be able to get a dual root (Android OS and Webtop) someday =) IMO Moto has done well bringing the first dual core to the states. The only perfect phone I've ever had was my N1, the Atrix isn't perfect but it is one of the best (most definitely the fastest) phone on the market.
ronan_zj said:
When you go to Inspire forum, u will see how ppl hate Atrix, they feel the Atrix is ****, cheap, ect. ect..
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Well isn't that the case on every forum? No different with Inspire/iPhone/Atrix users.
We all hate what we don't have and excessively praise what we have.
metaldood said:
Well isn't that the case on every forum? No different with Inspire/iPhone/Atrix users.
We all hate what we don't have and excessively praise what we have.
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I agree. We are chasing perfection.

2.3.4 - Screen Animation/Transition is Horrendous

normal android devices, and the atrix on 2.2, use some standard nice screen transitions. to enter an app, zoom in. entering each subsequent screen the page swoops from the right. and backing out the screen swoops back to the left.
now on 2.3.4, EVERY single transitino is a zoom in/out, and i have never seen such an ugly horrendous idea before. anyone know if there is a way to bring the device back to the stock method? maybe in custom ROM with frameworks edit or something?
just can't comprehend how someone thought "hey, this looks great, let's change it to this way". am i crazy?
Yeh it sucks, but you'll get used to it...
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RogerPodacter said:
am i crazy?
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Yes.
But to fix your "problem" go to settings, display, then animation. Pick no animation to get rid of any transition. I don't think there is a way to get back to froyo transitions.
And now that I think about it, I don't remember it ever swooping left or right. I had a zoom in to enter an app and a hard cut home when leaving an app.
Oh it swooped left and right, I just confirmed this on 2.2. Its the standard android way. We read left to right. Right is forward, left is backwards, its a very valuable ui element to all android phones flow.
Of course for now I disabled animations, but that looks bad too. I just can't believe it, I truly am blown away by this.
I don't c anything wrong with them
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I enjoy the screen animations
In this link you find UI Animations:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=774738
I dont mean to be a **** but really..?
We just need HUGE thread about how everyone hates little things in the new GB update. stickied at that matter. cause its so important to post about how you dont like the animations in GB.
XDA ATRIX forums were plagued with "when is GB coming" now its plagued with "this looks ugly" "i dont like this in GB". I'm sure it wasn't easy for moto to make this at all. if you guys like the old boring crap on froyo them go back to froyo.
Theme it, change it, learn to Dev, etc.
stratax said:
I dont mean to be a **** but really..?
We just need HUGE thread about how everyone hates little things in the new GB update. stickied at that matter. cause its so important to post about how you dont like the animations in GB.
XDA ATRIX forums were plagued with "when is GB coming" now its plagued with "this looks ugly" "i dont like this in GB". I'm sure it wasn't easy for moto to make this at all. if you guys like the old boring crap on froyo them go back to froyo.
Theme it, change it, learn to Dev, etc.
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lol, +1 /10 Chars
stratax said:
I dont mean to be a **** but really..?
We just need HUGE thread about how everyone hates little things in the new GB update. stickied at that matter. cause its so important to post about how you dont like the animations in GB.
XDA ATRIX forums were plagued with "when is GB coming" now its plagued with "this looks ugly" "i dont like this in GB". I'm sure it wasn't easy for moto to make this at all. if you guys like the old boring crap on froyo them go back to froyo.
Theme it, change it, learn to Dev, etc.
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I get it, but I am saying that I've not hated something so much and been this annoyed at something in the last 10 years. I literally hate it with a passion and ruins the experience totally for me. Its that bad for me.
Edit: and yes I do have dev experience and will see how if possible to add it back so but this isn't a simple theme solution as the transitions are likely part of the moto frameworks or similar. I'll definitely look and try to learn more. I committed a couple hundred lines of code to the cyanogen repository last year and it got merged in to final, but I'm not so great in the grand scheme of these awesome devs.
RogerPodacter said:
I get it, but I am saying that I've not hated something so much and been this annoyed at something in the last 10 years. I literally hate it with a passion and ruins the experience totally for me. Its that bad for me.
Edit: and yes I do have dev experience and will see how if possible to add it back so but this isn't a simple theme solution as the transitions are likely part of the moto frameworks or similar. I'll definitely look and try to learn more. I committed a couple hundred lines of code to the cyanogen repository last year and it got merged in to final, but I'm not so great in the grand scheme of these awesome devs.
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yeah, all smartass aside jokes. im sure we will get someone to make animations. usually takes a while.
need stable ROM, then themes, then hacks/mods, then little things like animations. usually how it goes. we dont have a completely stable (custom) ROM. that i know of that is. like MIUI, CM7.
RogerPodacter said:
I get it, but I am saying that I've not hated something so much and been this annoyed at something in the last 10 years. I literally hate it with a passion and ruins the experience totally for me. Its that bad for me.
Edit: and yes I do have dev experience and will see how if possible to add it back so but this isn't a simple theme solution as the transitions are likely part of the moto frameworks or similar. I'll definitely look and try to learn more. I committed a couple hundred lines of code to the cyanogen repository last year and it got merged in to final, but I'm not so great in the grand scheme of these awesome devs.
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wow buddy you need to not stress so much off of phone animations. turn them off or load a different rom.
RogerPodacter said:
I get it, but I am saying that I've not hated something so much and been this annoyed at something in the last 10 years. I literally hate it with a passion and ruins the experience totally for me. Its that bad for me.
Edit: and yes I do have dev experience and will see how if possible to add it back so but this isn't a simple theme solution as the transitions are likely part of the moto frameworks or similar. I'll definitely look and try to learn more. I committed a couple hundred lines of code to the cyanogen repository last year and it got merged in to final, but I'm not so great in the grand scheme of these awesome devs.
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lol man... I think you need you need to find something more meaningful in your life if this is what makes your blood boil.
It was a little exaggerated obviously. But I do hate it immensely. It would be a good project to change it back.
I'm surprised this thread got even any opposition. Surely the other android phones you guys used had this. There isn't a single android yet like this till the atrix on 2.3.4. First of its kind.
I don't like the stupid animations in gingerbread,too but going to get used to with hate or love.
CognAtrix has standard animations....
RogerPodacter said:
It was a little exaggerated obviously. But I do hate it immensely. It would be a good project to change it back.
I'm surprised this thread got even any opposition. Surely the other android phones you guys used had this. There isn't a single android yet like this till the atrix on 2.3.4. First of its kind.
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i honestly really like every animation in this build, just my two cents
designgears said:
CognAtrix has standard animations....
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where can we find it? i dont see it in your sig or on xda or on google?! i would love to go back to standard too, besides the CRT screen on and off, haha, I love those.
Semseddin said:
I don't like the stupid animations in gingerbread,too but going to get used to with hate or love.
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Well for reference, gingerbread on all devices uses the standard method. Zoom in/out for the entry and exit point of the app to home screen, with all screen changes inside the app swoops left and right for forwards and backwards. Only moto changed to all zooms on gb, and they had it right on froyo.
All zooms actually messes you up a bit if you're doing some fast navigating around the device.
Try this zip with metamorph: http://bit.ly/qkX7df
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No more adobe flash for mobile?

I thought this was interesting, and super lame. Dont know if its old news, buts its the first I heard of it.
No more adobe flash support for mobile?
http://www.slashgear.com/adobe-slam...over-mobile-flash-cut-stock-plunges-09194410/
Lemme know what this means to you all.
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I just received an update on Flash 11. So It might be the last
Hmm, I wonder if Google might change it's mind about flash now, they might go back with Apple and Microsoft and replace flash
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Flash is old hat though....
Technology is moving forward. We have things like HTML5 replacing the need for flash.
Flash is slow, clunky, and a battery and resource hog. Good riddance!
I dunno, I personally love having flash. I like my web pages to render exactly like a desktop, cuz my phone IS my desktop.
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I have always hated Flash but it's the best we have and everyone uses it unfortunately. Losing this ability on our phones is a bad thing no matter how you slice it. If we had something better that was more universal that's a different story but we don't.
OstrichSak said:
I have always hated Flash but it's the best we have and everyone uses it unfortunately. Losing this ability on our phones is a bad thing no matter how you slice it. If we had something better that was more universal that's a different story but we don't.
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Do u think its possible Google has something up their sleeve. They have to realize how many people bought android because of flash. I would hope so at least
revol.epic said:
it means the iphone wins and android is in the dust. people only dropped apple for android for flash... now no difference...
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It does not....No one I know bought an Android for the sole reason that it plays Flash, and if anyone did, they're an idiot. I bought one because I could customize it, root it, and a boatload of other things that I can't do with an iPhone. HTML5 is way better than Flash anyway. We'll all be better off because of this.
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Ummm, actually, Flash is one of the main things I was excited about when I moved to android on June 4th 2010 (evo launch).
I came from WinMo. The skyfire browser on WinMo supported flash, and finally provided a desktop experience on my phone.
Reading the comments on the article I linked to seemed to support the argument that HTML5 could be great, if it was developed a lot further than its current state. Which means, as OstrichSak said, what until then?
And hopefully google DOES have something up their sleeve
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scottspa74 said:
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Ummm, actually, Flash is one of the main things I was excited about when I moved to android on June 4th 2010 (evo launch).
I came from WinMo. The skyfire browser on WinMo supported flash, and finally provided a desktop experience on my phone.
Reading the comments on the article I linked to seemed to support the argument that HTML5 could be great, if it was developed a lot further than its current state. Which means, as OstrichSak said, what until then?
And hopefully google DOES have something up their sleeve
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It's not like it's disappearing out of thin air tomorrow.....They'll still use it until HTML5 becomes the standard.
Evo4gLI said:
It's not like it's disappearing out of thin air tomorrow.....They'll still use it until HTML5 becomes the standard.
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Funny choice of words because they will still be using AIR. lol
They aren't supporting mobile flash "in browser". But they are still supporting flash on mobile devices via AIR.
Evo4gLI said:
It's not like it's disappearing out of thin air tomorrow.....They'll still use it until HTML5 becomes the standard.
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Right, true. I guess I was just really shocked to see it no longer be supported. Anyhow, thanks for everyones comments and observations here

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