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Dual band (CDMA/GSM) Galaxy S in China? i909

http://www.unwiredview.com/2010/08/16/samsung-i909-galaxy-s-gsmcdma-android-smartphone-shows-up/
Hmmm....

both the USA Fascinate and Epic are also dual band CDMA phones
however CDMA + GSM is a rare breed
my aging HTC Athena has both CDMA and GSM
hmm.. tried searching samsung china & samsung mobile china websites there's no info for the i909 yet

South Korea's SGS2

Seeing that the UK models will not be getting NFC, has anyone thought of ordering from Korea? Or in general is anyone considering ordering from a Korean seller?

Why would you do that unless your local frequencies are South Korea's CDMA...meaning you'd be in South Korea.

Balthazar B said:
Why would you do that unless your local frequencies are South Korea's CDMA...meaning you'd be in South Korea.
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lol delete this thread haha... Totally forgot to think about whether it was GSM or not xD Thx for the info.

I lived in south korea and i'm korean.
Our country provide WCDMA/CDMA service.
WCDMA Band cairrer are below.
SKTelecom (2100 Mhz)
Korea Telecom (2100 Mhz)
CDMA band carrier is below
LG U+ (1800 Mhz)
But, Our local galaxy s radio band spec is poor then EU galaxy s2.
<< Korea Galaxy S2 Network support >>
Double band UMTS 900/2100
Triple band GSM 900/1800/1900
<< EU Galaxy S2 band Network support>>
Quad band GSM 850/900/1800/1900
Quad band UMTS 850/900/1900/2100
Yeah, Our korean prefer TDMB(TV Service) then multiple band support.
So it will occur H/w problem occur and samsung select some frequencies killed.
The main critical issue is
if you purchased in our SKT galaxy S 2 model (SHW-M250S),
may be you can't receive MMS. because our carrier SKTelecom using
their own MMS format. (SK-MMS)
Most of world using OMA-MMS.
So it will occur many sms, mms problems.
and our service porvider (SKT, KT) they enjoyed add a many many bloat ware.(Service program).
it will occur a tons of system hang and reset problem.
As a result, i recommend that if you purchased galaxy s2,
wait a your country's carrier galaxy s2( like captivate or fascinate) nor buy the EU galaxy s2.
So, I can't recommend our korea's galaxy s2.
I'll buy a EU Galaxy s2.

Has anyone considered, instead, picking up the North Korean version?

Pulverizer said:
I lived in south korea and i'm korean.
Our country provide WCDMA/CDMA service.
WCDMA Band cairrer are below.
SKTelecom (2100 Mhz)
Korea Telecom (2100 Mhz)
CDMA band carrier is below
LG U+ (1800 Mhz)
But, Our local galaxy s radio band spec is poor then EU galaxy s2.
<< Korea Galaxy S2 Network support >>
Double band UMTS 900/2100
Triple band GSM 900/1800/1900
<< EU Galaxy S2 band Network support>>
Quad band GSM 850/900/1800/1900
Quad band UMTS 850/900/1900/2100
Yeah, Our korean prefer TDMB(TV Service) then multiple band support.
So it will occur H/w problem occur and samsung select some frequencies killed.
The main critical issue is
if you purchased in our SKT galaxy S 2 model (SHW-M250S),
may be you can't receive MMS. because our carrier SKTelecom using
their own MMS format. (SK-MMS)
Most of world using OMA-MMS.
So it will occur many sms, mms problems.
and our service porvider (SKT, KT) they enjoyed add a many many bloat ware.(Service program).
it will occur a tons of system hang and reset problem.
As a result, i recommend that if you purchased galaxy s2,
wait a your country's carrier galaxy s2( like captivate or fascinate) nor buy the EU galaxy s2.
So, I can't recommend our korea's galaxy s2.
I'll buy a EU Galaxy s2.
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Yeah I got carried away with the thought that I could get the Korean SGS2 have all the same bands and get the NFC. Didn't think through it all the way and forgot that Korea uses different services.

MustWarnothers said:
Has anyone considered, instead, picking up the North Korean version?
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oh my god..
Our samsung do not provide cellphone to north korea. hehe...

brandenk0 said:
Yeah I got carried away with the thought that I could get the Korean SGS2 have all the same bands and get the NFC. Didn't think through it all the way and forgot that Korea uses different services.
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The clove store galaxy s2 spec page appeard "NFC" service support.
http://www.clove.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-i9100-16gb

Pulverizer said:
The clove store galaxy s2 spec page appeard "NFC" service support.
http://www.clove.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-i9100-16gb
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The UK version doesnt seem to have NFC in it. Most of the retailers just take the specs off Samsung's site. Wish it were true tho.

brandenk0 said:
The UK version doesnt seem to have NFC in it. Most of the retailers just take the specs off Samsung's site. Wish it were true tho.
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UK amazon spec page appeard that
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-I9100-Galaxy-Free-Smartphone/dp/tech-data/B004QTBQ2C/ref=de_a_smtd
I think amazon tell the truth.
So you hope thf NFC function in EU or UK galaxy s2.

Hi,
Thank you information about Korean version. I m from Turkey. My Vodafone carrier supports 900 band. So i think i can use it in Turkey. I want to ask question where can i buy it in Korean? is it locked or unlocked.
Thanks
Pulverizer said:
I lived in south korea and i'm korean.
Our country provide WCDMA/CDMA service.
WCDMA Band cairrer are below.
SKTelecom (2100 Mhz)
Korea Telecom (2100 Mhz)
CDMA band carrier is below
LG U+ (1800 Mhz)
But, Our local galaxy s radio band spec is poor then EU galaxy s2.
<< Korea Galaxy S2 Network support >>
Double band UMTS 900/2100
Triple band GSM 900/1800/1900
<< EU Galaxy S2 band Network support>>
Quad band GSM 850/900/1800/1900
Quad band UMTS 850/900/1900/2100
Yeah, Our korean prefer TDMB(TV Service) then multiple band support.
So it will occur H/w problem occur and samsung select some frequencies killed.
The main critical issue is
if you purchased in our SKT galaxy S 2 model (SHW-M250S),
may be you can't receive MMS. because our carrier SKTelecom using
their own MMS format. (SK-MMS)
Most of world using OMA-MMS.
So it will occur many sms, mms problems.
and our service porvider (SKT, KT) they enjoyed add a many many bloat ware.(Service program).
it will occur a tons of system hang and reset problem.
As a result, i recommend that if you purchased galaxy s2,
wait a your country's carrier galaxy s2( like captivate or fascinate) nor buy the EU galaxy s2.
So, I can't recommend our korea's galaxy s2.
I'll buy a EU Galaxy s2.
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Where did you get this information?
According to the specs posted online at several web sites the SK version has support for all of the same bands.
Also, if SK's mms tech was not compatible with other carriers, how would the phone be able to send and recieve mms messages once roaming and relying on another carriers protocols? Can you please post a source of your information, it contradicts everything I've seen online (and common sense when it comes to mms).

The con's you mentioned here aren't much of a problem. Most of the world still uses triband gsm and having a quad band won't do much of good and how many of us really uses mms when we are using emailing or video calling!!
If you see the pro's they is NFC which is gonna be must feature in all smart mobile in future. Next gen samsung mobile is having NFC in all the models. So isn't it cool to have right now than later? well there are lot of apps in android for fm, so having a native fm on mobile is pointless. And DMB is an extra asset too. last but not the least bloatware can be removed in many ways as like rooting
So what do you think guys?
Pulverizer said:
I lived in south korea and i'm korean.
Our country provide WCDMA/CDMA service.
WCDMA Band cairrer are below.
SKTelecom (2100 Mhz)
Korea Telecom (2100 Mhz)
CDMA band carrier is below
LG U+ (1800 Mhz)
But, Our local galaxy s radio band spec is poor then EU galaxy s2.
<< Korea Galaxy S2 Network support >>
Double band UMTS 900/2100
Triple band GSM 900/1800/1900
<< EU Galaxy S2 band Network support>>
Quad band GSM 850/900/1800/1900
Quad band UMTS 850/900/1900/2100
Yeah, Our korean prefer TDMB(TV Service) then multiple band support.
So it will occur H/w problem occur and samsung select some frequencies killed.
The main critical issue is
if you purchased in our SKT galaxy S 2 model (SHW-M250S),
may be you can't receive MMS. because our carrier SKTelecom using
their own MMS format. (SK-MMS)
Most of world using OMA-MMS.
So it will occur many sms, mms problems.
and our service porvider (SKT, KT) they enjoyed add a many many bloat ware.(Service program).
it will occur a tons of system hang and reset problem.
As a result, i recommend that if you purchased galaxy s2,
wait a your country's carrier galaxy s2( like captivate or fascinate) nor buy the EU galaxy s2.
So, I can't recommend our korea's galaxy s2.
I'll buy a EU Galaxy s2.
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marthyaya said:
The con's you mentioned here aren't much of a problem. Most of the world still uses triband gsm and having a quad band won't do much of good and how many of us really uses mms when we are using emailing or video calling!!
If you see the pro's they is NFC which is gonna be must feature in all smart mobile in future. Next gen samsung mobile is having NFC in all the models. So isn't it cool to have right now than later? well there are lot of apps in android for fm, so having a native fm on mobile is pointless. And DMB is an extra asset too. last but not the least bloatware can be removed in many ways as like rooting
So what do you think guys?
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I also think about this model in this way. I think pro's that this unit has are stronger than the con's that "we think" do exist in the mobile. MMS bug is useless as we are using Email and other apps like ChatON, WhatsApp etc. Also there are plenty of FM apps which are capable of streaming online. I don't know about others, this is how I feel.
Even if you feel this software doesn't fit to you, or MMS is really a bug for you, you can anytime change to I9100 firmware at the cost of loosing NFC and DMB (Even after changing I saw that there is a workaround for NFC)

[Q] Pre-ordered I9500 - LTE question

Hi,
I just confirmed my back-order for the I9500 (and the product description is mentioning LTE eu which I believe means Europe). However, I'm a T-mo subscriber.
Does any one know if T-mo will support the European LTE (or in other words - will the I9500 will work with T-mo or AT&T LTE network?)
Thanks,
Gil.

Hi! Us Tmobile User Here!
gilbnx said:
Hi,
I just confirmed my back-order for the I9500 (and the product description is mentioning LTE eu which I believe means Europe). However, I'm a T-mo subscriber.
Does any one know if T-mo will support the European LTE (or in other words - will the I9500 will work with T-mo or AT&T LTE network?)
Thanks,
Gil.
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Hi! Us Tmobile User Here! Sadly no. The i9500 does not come equipped with 4g LTE chips. Mainly due to Europe's lack of a reliable network. The i9505(international) on the other hand does support LTE, so does the us version (SGH-M919). But buying one of these phones is somewhat of a waste knowing there could be compatibility issues with your network. In simple terms, stick with you i9500. HSPA+ IS NOT BAD. On paper it has a 42mbits max while LTE IS A WHOPPING 100MBITS. But the problem is paper stats dont translate well into everyday. Many times i find my self enjoying faster speeds on my HSPA+ phone then my LTE friends, variables like network congestion and signal strengrh can all factor into this. So yeah, stick with your I9500, the lack of LTE will only save you battery:laugh:!

sofyanator said:
Hi! Us Tmobile User Here! Sadly no. The i9500 does not come equipped with 4g LTE chips. Mainly due to Europe's lack of a reliable network. The i9505(international) on the other hand does support LTE, so does the us version (SGH-M919). But buying one of these phones is somewhat of a waste knowing there could be compatibility issues with your network. In simple terms, stick with you i9500. HDSPA+ IS NOT BAD. On paper it has a 42mbits max while LTE IS A WHOPPING 100MBITS. But the problem is paper stats dont translate well into everyday. Many times i find my self enjoying faster speeds on my HSPA+ phone then my LTE friends, variables like network congestion and signal strengrh can all factor into this. So yeah, stick with your I9500, the lack of LTE will only save you battery:laugh:!
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I think that the lack of LTE for the i9500 is now updated. This is the spec from the website I've ordered the i9500 from:
Network: 2.5G (GSM/ GPRS/ EDGE): 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 MHz; 3G (HSPA+ 42Mbps): 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 MHz; 4G (LTE Cat 3 100/50Mbps) : up to 6 different band sets(Dependent on market)
Display: 5 inch Full HD Super AMOLED (1920 x 1080) display, 441 ppi
Processor: 1.6 GHz Octa-Core Processor
OS: Android 4.2.2 (Jelly Bean)
(they had the rest of the spec, cam, etc. but its not relevant for this thread).
This is the site: http://www.expansys-usa.com/samsung-galaxy-s-4-smartphone-black-mist-16gb-unlocked-247538/
As you can see, it is the 1.6Ghz Octa core and it does support LTE per this spec. The question is - will it work with the US (T-mo and AT&T) bands?
Thanks.

sofyanator said:
Hi! Us Tmobile User Here! Sadly no. The i9500 does not come equipped with 4g LTE chips. Mainly due to Europe's lack of a reliable network. The i9505(international) on the other hand does support LTE, so does the us version (SGH-M919). But buying one of these phones is somewhat of a waste knowing there could be compatibility issues with your network. In simple terms, stick with you i9500. HSPA+ IS NOT BAD. On paper it has a 42mbits max while LTE IS A WHOPPING 100MBITS. But the problem is paper stats dont translate well into everyday. Many times i find my self enjoying faster speeds on my HSPA+ phone then my LTE friends, variables like network congestion and signal strengrh can all factor into this. So yeah, stick with your I9500, the lack of LTE will only save you battery:laugh:!
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AFAIK there won't be compatibility issues because the GT-I9505 will support all global LTE frequencies and standards. And what you said about LTE in Europe is wrong. There is a "reliable" network in Europe but it works on other frequencies than in US and moreover most countries in Europe will get the GT-I9505 version only. What you said was the case with the SGS3 but now the Exynos version (GT-I9500) will be officially in only few Europe countries.

gilbnx said:
I think that the lack of LTE for the i9500 is now updated. This is the spec from the website I've ordered the i9500 from:
Network: 2.5G (GSM/ GPRS/ EDGE): 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 MHz; 3G (HSPA+ 42Mbps): 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 MHz; 4G (LTE Cat 3 100/50Mbps) : up to 6 different band sets(Dependent on market)
Display: 5 inch Full HD Super AMOLED (1920 x 1080) display, 441 ppi
Processor: 1.6 GHz Octa-Core Processor
OS: Android 4.2.2 (Jelly Bean)
(they had the rest of the spec, cam, etc. but its not relevant for this thread).
This is the site: http://www.expansys-usa.com/samsung-galaxy-s-4-smartphone-black-mist-16gb-unlocked-247538/
As you can see, it is the 1.6Ghz Octa core and it does support LTE per this spec. The question is - will it work with the US (T-mo and AT&T) bands?
Thanks.
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Negative. I spoke to them and had them look up the exact model with their procurement. The version they are getting is sourced from South America and DOES NOT have LTE despite it saying so on their website. It appears that many websites have made this same mistake because like Expansys they have simply reposted Samsungs description but it does not discern between the Korean version which is an Octa with LTE and the rest of the (announced) Octa variants which do not have LTE.

delete.

International phones are on International Baseband. US phones are on us baseband. If they were the same then there would be no US-International. It would just be one baseband. So i doubt it will but you can still be open to possibilities.

gilbnx said:
Hi,
I just confirmed my back-order for the I9500 (and the product description is mentioning LTE eu which I believe means Europe). However, I'm a T-mo subscriber.
Does any one know if T-mo will support the European LTE (or in other words - will the I9500 will work with T-mo or AT&T LTE network?)
Thanks,
Gil.
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Can I ask, where did you preorder the GT-i9500?

Just remember, buying international phones is a PAIN for warranty. So be careful.

Nephilim-Giant said:
Just remember, buying international phones is a PAIN for warranty. So be careful.
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Warranty is not really an issue for me, just need to know where I can get the Exynos variant.

Buddy39914 said:
Warranty is not really an issue for me, just need to know where I can get the Exynos variant.
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Negri or expansys

Nephilim-Giant said:
Negri or expansys
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I've seen that, but their descriptions are really confusing. Some marked LTE, some marked LTA (not sure what that means), and some are marked just GT-i9500. Those which are marked just GT-i9500 say that they come with a quad-core, which should not be; the GT-i9500 is supposed to be octa-core. GT-i9505 is quad-core.
Which is which? Also, there are 16, 32, 64GB versions on the website; I doubt we will be seeing something higher than the 16GB version for the release.
Also, if I order the octa-core version. When will I get it, approximately?

Hi,
I'm having real trouble finding info on this so I hope you can help.
I have a standard 3uk 3g micro sim card in my international GS3. Can I use this card in an LTE enabled GS3. Is the LTE device backward compatable. I don't expect to get LTE coverage I just need to know if my sim will work as normal in an LTE device.

Yeah it is. If there's no 4G it should revert to whats next available such as 3G
Murdhie said:
Hi,
I'm having real trouble finding info on this so I hope you can help.
I have a standard 3uk 3g micro sim card in my international GS3. Can I use this card in an LTE enabled GS3. Is the LTE device backward compatable. I don't expect to get LTE coverage I just need to know if my sim will work as normal in an LTE device.
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Thank you for your reply. Amazing how hard it is to find info on such a simple question. Called three and the guy couldn't grasp what I meant.
Thanks again.

SHV-E300S (S4 korean version) LTE/HSPA+?

Hello !
at the moment im living in korea but will go back to germany in summer.
i was thinking about buying the korean version of the samsung galaxy s4 and bring it to germany.
so my question is: do u know which lte frequency it supports and if HSPA+ is supported ?
i found something about lte bands, is that the Mhz frequencies for 2g/3g too ?
thanks for ur help !

Can you buy one on my behalf and post it to me?
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk 2

teameg said:
Hello !
at the moment im living in korea but will go back to germany in summer.
i was thinking about buying the korean version of the samsung galaxy s4 and bring it to germany.
so my question is: do u know which lte frequency it supports and if HSPA+ is supported ?
i found something about lte bands, is that the Mhz frequencies for 2g/3g too ?
thanks for ur help !
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Hi, greetings from your home country
Here you find all specs: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S4 - Samsung Galaxy S4 on Wikipedia
Would be really interesting to hear from an mobil expert which LTE bands are really supported!
In Germany we have band 3 (1.800 Mhz; Telekom) and 20 (800 Mhz; Telekom, Vodafone, o2), eventually also band 7 (2.600 Mhz, all 4 provides).
See www . smsmich . de/Mobiles-Internet/lte-frequenzen . php - Frequenzen in Deutschland.
Only the KT device (SHV-E300K) seems to have this or a very similar config.
If this matches I'd be very interested in this device, too!
Maybe you can report on "investigations" and prizes?!?
Yours tholau

Shv-e300s + lte!!?

Hi,
I'm about to get SG-S4!!
I read through the forum, didn't find a sold answer if SHV-E300S with Exynos 5 (Octa) will work with LTE in US!
Can anyone please let us know...
Thanks

It won't, the bands aren't supported. It won't work in the EU either.
Sent from my GT-I9505 using xda premium

mahboob2t said:
Hi,
I'm about to get SG-S4!!
I read through the forum, didn't find a sold answer if SHV-E300S with Exynos 5 (Octa) will work with LTE in US!
Can anyone please let us know...
Thanks
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If you want to:
-Pay 200 dollars more expensive(import tax + local seller commission)
-Have a bigger size(korea version is thicker than us one) and have stupid korea restriction(sms limitation, etc...)
-Take a phone who only support Korea 4G frequency and imcompatible with all other country
You can surely go for this version. No problem!!!

mathieulh said:
It won't, the bands aren't supported. It won't work in the EU either.
Sent from my GT-I9505 using xda premium
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Good to know..
Madawcisrich said:
If you want to:
-Pay 200 dollars more expensive(import tax + local seller commission)
-Have a bigger size(korea version is thicker than us one) and have stupid korea restriction(sms limitation, etc...)
-Take a phone who only support Korea 4G frequency and imcompatible with all other country
You can surely go for this version. No problem!!!
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lol yeah I see no prob

I'm using a app called SKT Hidden Menu with my SHV-E300S. You can change the network channels to work in the US.

soundping said:
I'm using a app called SKT Hidden Menu with my SHV-E300S. You can change the network channels to work in the US.
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Hi, since you have the korea version, please show us more pictures about its size, what difference does he have other than the fact he get overclocked processor and compatible LTE? Some physical difference? Bigger than us one? Thicker? Some restrictions? Do you mean that with your app, you can use 4G LTE in the US and in other countries? Also where did you buy your phone? How much does it cost? Thank you.

The overclocked processor settings was dropped before it's release. It's now 4 cores at 1.6 and 4 cores at 1.2. I'm guessing because of heat issues.
Just doing a backup will make the phone heat up quick. Plus, the battery life isn't good.
I should have waited two more months before buying a S4.

I too want to have the octa core S4 with LTE to use in the US and don't want to settle for anything less. Some sources say that the S4 Exynos octa-core supports 20 LTE bands, but often responses from people say that the Korean LTE S4 won't work with US LTE bands. Wiki contains some info on the S4 and LTE bands but I'm a noob so it's not clear to me why it is a definite no for LTE in the US.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S4
SHV-E300/ - Korean with 3 variations: K, L and S
K: GSM, DCS
L: CLR, IMT
S: CLR, DCS
GT-I9505 - International version
800, 850, GSM, 1800 MHz, IMT, IMT-E
SGH-I337 - AT&T
700 MHz (Band 17), AWS, IMT, IMT-E
SGH-M919 - TMobile
700 MHz (Band 17), CLR, AWS, PCS, IMT, IMT-E
I'm targetting to use the S4 on Tmobile LTE. So according to that info Tmobile supports 6 LTE bands, some of which are also listed under the K, L and S variations of the Korean S4. To me that sorta implies that Tmobile LTE would work, but then I'm a noob and not sure how that works out. I don't know how reliable the Wiki info is so it'll be great to know. I've also seen sources that say the Korean S4 supports LTE bands 1/4/7/17. The info are scattered around and carriers don't specifically release these info so that makes things even harder.
But assuming the wiki info is reliable, if you can explain how it works or not work would you please enlighten the rest of us. Thanks.

soundping said:
I'm using a app called SKT Hidden Menu with my SHV-E300S. You can change the network channels to work in the US.
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i have a shv-e300s too, and i have used lte because of skt hidden menu by switching to option lte all on the network mode because it doesnt have the option lte band 1 like your app do. and a few days ago my lte suddenly stopped working and i don't receive signals from my network when i switch to lte all. do i need to root it first? im from the Philippines by the way and my network use band 1 for lte thanks bro