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Nexus One USB host driver

http://sven.killig.de/android/N1/2.2/usb_host

USB Drives, keyboard, camera, external monitor?

Is there instructions of how to setup, or just someone saying what the pre-req's were and a video showing that it works? Not ready for prime-time?

chesh420 said:
Is there instructions of how to setup, or just someone saying what the pre-req's were and a video showing that it works?
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If you have any specific question, don't hesitate to ask me so I can add it to the web page.
chesh420 said:
Not ready for prime-time?
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Well, some of it is Debian based, so ready for nerd time

nice

I would recommend changing the youtube embed to a normal size. I did not even notice the links at the bottom, plus it was too wide for my browser window. If someone wants to watch it fullscreen they can do it themselves.

Clarkster said:
I would recommend changing the youtube embed to a normal size.
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The embed button on the YouTube site switches automatically to this size when enabling the HD checkbox.
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I did not even notice the links at the bottom, plus it was too wide for my browser window.
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I rearranged it.

That's better. I'll just have to get a bigger monitor then
Other than my initial I don't have much else to say other than this is very cool and promising too.
Great work.

sonic74 said:
sven.killig.de/android/N1/2.2/usb_host
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Nice job, sonic74!
I ordered the OTG cables that you linked. (You should get commission). Which USB to VGA adapter did you use? -- Also, going to hunt down a USB to Ethernet adapter to play with and try.
Cheers,
Kermee

I saw in the hardware list, you have a "USB Dual Power Cable" listed as one of the items. Does that go between the powered USB hub and the USB OTG cable?
Cheers,
Kermee

Kermee said:
(You should get commission)
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I don't. Nice idea, though...
Kermee said:
Which USB to VGA adapter did you use?
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It's a Lenovo 45K5296.
It's DisplayLink DL-195 based and so can do 2048x1536 over DVI. If you don't need that high a resolution, there are cheaper options. Or small USB monitors.

Yeah I'm confused on the "USB Dual Power Cable" and what exactly that is also. If you can a rough step by step on how you got it working could go along way as well.
I actually posted on reddit asking if I could link your post here.. must've missed it the first time quickly scanning. Congrats on figuring this out by the way.

Kermee said:
Does that go between the powered USB hub and the USB OTG cable?
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Exactly. I added a picture to the website for clarification.

hi,
do you expect this to work for other phones as well?? like the motorola milestone once we can modify the kernel? Or is it very specific to the nexus one hardware?

royalcs said:
do you expect this to work for other phones as well??
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The ones from HTC should have similar USB hardware.
royalcs said:
like the motorola milestone once we can modify the kernel?
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Yes, the Droid/Milestone is TI OMAP based. The first linux OTG/host support came from TI for this SoC. It is even in the mainline tree I think.

sonic74 said:
Exactly. I added a picture to the website for clarification.
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Awesome. -- Does this allow the N1 to take a charge via USB while you're using it in USB OTG/Host mode?
Cheers,
Kermee

Kermee said:
Does this allow the N1 to take a charge via USB while you're using it in USB OTG/Host mode?
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Yes, it does.

sonic74 said:
It's a Lenovo 45K5296:
shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/web/LenovoPortal/en_US/catalog.workflow:item.detail?GroupID=38&Code=45K5296&current-category-id=F518DEACD67248538629B17343AFFB25
It's DisplayLink DL-195 based and so can do 2048x1536 over DVI. If you don't need that high a resolution, there are cheaper options. Or small USB monitors:
sven.killig.de/openwrt/slugterm_dl.html
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Ah. Nice! Thanks for the clarification!
I was thinking of picking up a cheap StarTech USB2VGA off eBay for $30 USD. Since it works in an NSLU2, I'm assuming it should work too on the N1.
BTW- I have that exact same ASUS WL-500G Premium... It's a blast to hack!
Thanks again!
Cheers,
Kermee

Sonic74, you've used a self-powered USB Hub. Is it possible to use less-intensive devices like USB Keyboard and Mouse without requiring it to be powered? Or is it a must to even work?
It's also a little confusing the binaries you've put up on your site atmo, since I presume some relate only to running X11 (ConnectBot etc) and others are for simpler things such as the keyboards? Can you make it clearer on the distinction of what's required to do what? Huge thanks.
Lastly, thanks for opening the world's eyes to the amazing possibilities with Android. The dawning that these are more than just phones, they are mobile computer devices that can be converted into gaming consoles or presentation devices or printers or scanners etc. is pretty epic

Interesting...now only if there was an Android driver for my USB FM radio I could get FM on my N1!

TV Out

Ok so I have searched a bit and cannot find anything related to a TV Out for the Dinc. I know I have seen it mentioned on this forum before, but search is not showing any results.
Anywho is it possible to use TV Out on a Dinc running AOSP Rom? (Miui...atm)

GatorsUF said:
Ok so I have searched a bit and cannot find anything related to a TV Out for the Dinc. I know I have seen it mentioned on this forum before, but search is not showing any results.
Anywho is it possible to use TV Out on a Dinc running AOSP Rom? (Miui...atm)
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I have not heard of it working with AOSP ROMs, only Sense. I don't use TV-OUT at all, but seeing posts about it, it doesn't work with AOSP.

At this very moment, I don't believe so. Although I haven't kept up with any AOSP roms in months. That said, the news (and Verizon support PDF to go along with it) that there is a gingerbread update dropping hopefully this week will bring with it the proper files that AOSP rom developers need to incorporate 720p.

awesome hopefully video out is included in this GB update and can be incorporated into the AOSP roms.
I assume I need a miniusb to hdmi cable or something?

GatorsUF said:
awesome hopefully video out is included in this GB update and can be incorporated into the AOSP roms.
I assume I need a miniusb to hdmi cable or something?
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Maybe some one will make a sense-less script that you can use to remove sense but keep TV out on GB. i know Lou had a script that removes sense on his rom. it felt the same as AOSP

Does TV-out work on sense GB roms? I thought it was just working on froyo but I could be wrong. Assuming that source is going to be released now for GB, maybe we'll see something implemented into AOSP GB roms?

I have no clue about tv out compatibility on gingersense roms,I don't have a use for it. But I will say there are quite a few people anticipating updates in EVERY rom with 720, tv out, kernel development, or glitches being ironed out. I'm happy everyone gets a piece of the pie if and when the source is released.

k_nivesout said:
Does TV-out work on sense GB roms? I thought it was just working on froyo but I could be wrong. Assuming that source is going to be released now for GB, maybe we'll see something implemented into AOSP GB roms?
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I haven't seen it on any Gingerbread ROMS that I know of... I last had it on WarmZ which was Sense 2.0 on Froyo. The closest I figure I can get to AOSP with TV-Out is LauncherPro+ on the Sense ROM of choice.
I've been patiently waiting for it to show up on G-Bread. The cord is just sitting right there begging to be used lol I have no idea why they can't implement TV-Out on AOSP roms though. Seems like one of those features that just gets thrown in uknow.

what cord is needed? I assume the correct drivers will be found when the source is released.
I assume the GB source thats coming will fix TV-out in both Sense and AOSP roms.

GatorsUF said:
what cord is needed? I assume the correct drivers will be found when the source is released.
I assume the GB source thats coming will fix TV-out in both Sense and AOSP roms.
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I 2nd that question. I know the Dinc has DLNA but what other option is there with just the microUSB port?

GinNjoose said:
I 2nd that question. I know the Dinc has DLNA but what other option is there with just the microUSB port?
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http://shop.htcpedia.com/htc-micro-usb-tv-out-cable.html

demarcmj said:
http://shop.htcpedia.com/htc-micro-usb-tv-out-cable.html
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Thanks
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Wow, I didn't think that existed -awesome! I'm assuming composite is as good as it gets through USB, no component or HDMI?
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yup, composite is it. no component or hdmi. works well actually. though I usually just use it for podcasts through my receiver.

cpuspeed said:
yup, composite is it. no component or hdmi. works well actually. though I usually just use it for podcasts through my receiver.
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Have you used it for video at all? Good or bad quality? I'm ready to add it to my amazon shopping cart.

GinNjoose said:
Have you used it for video at all? Good or bad quality? I'm ready to add it to my amazon shopping cart.
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Its equivalent to a DVD player or a Wii; it looks really good on CRT TV's and kinda whatever on an HD flat screen... I have a 32 inch CRT and I watch movies off the phone on a regular basis, its pretty awesome

What's a CRT? ;-)
Good info though, thanks. I've been curious about the TV-out functionality of the inc.

I purchased from my Verizon store the TV out cable. Yeah, it works like the last guy said. I picked it up primarily to watch movies on my girlfriend's CRT TV. It worked great. Then she got an LCD and it didn't look quite as good.
I lost TV out once I switched from Sense to CM7. We'll see what happens with the coming GB update. Maybe I'll switch back. I doubt it, though, especially if TV out may be coming to AOSP ROMs.

liteon163 said:
I purchased from my Verizon store the TV out cable. Yeah, it works like the last guy said. I picked it up primarily to watch movies on my girlfriend's CRT TV. It worked great. Then she got an LCD and it didn't look quite as good.
I lost TV out once I switched from Sense to CM7. We'll see what happens with the coming GB update. Maybe I'll switch back. I doubt it, though, especially if TV out may be coming to AOSP ROMs.
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I flashed the 2.3.4 leak last night, hopefully I still get tv out
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video looks good, but the processing power of the phone is limited so I've had stuttering issues with higher resolution videos that would look good on an LCD. not the cables fault.

New Owner with checklist ...am I missing anything? Recommendations are welcome

Hello all!
So I am getting the Note on Tuesday or so and this is a list of things I will be getting with it.
#1 Blue Galaxy Note (of course)
#2 2 cases
#3 2 anker batteries
#4 charging dock
#5 screen protector
#6 SANOXY Micro USB Host Mode OTG Cable
#7 EXPANSYS MHL microUSB to HDMI Adapter
#8 HDMI Cable 2M
# 9 RII Mini Wireless Bluetooth Keyboard
And I think that is it for now. I will be using a PS3 controller for gaming and the mini keyboard would be nice to use also with my HTPC.
Then on the software side, it is currently running CM9.
From what I have read flashing from recovery with CM9 is no problem...correct? Or do I still want to use Odin, etc?
I just hope my emulators are all working
And I hope Netflix TV out also works as it never worked with my Captivate. I could do others but not Netflix.
Any recommendations or suggestions are welcomed.
Thanks!

Maybe you want to get a longer micro usb cable. The one that comes with the Note is awfully short.

Good one. That indeed is something I did with my Captivate. Is this a normal usb I can get locally ?

And from whom you will get all this? Nice package btw...
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zviki said:
And from whom you will get all this? Nice package btw...
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Thanks!
Some of it came with the phone from the original owner the rest I am getting from different places. Just wanting to get the full experience right away

Looks like I made a stupid move by asking the other user to flash CM9 because I just read the CM9 log:
Speakerphone is a bit broken
USB OTG doesn't work
MHL doesn't work
So two cables I wont be able to use right away.
I guess its time to start reading up on what I can use to get those working.

shaolin95 said:
Good one. That indeed is something I did with my Captivate. Is this a normal usb I can get locally ?
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What you need is a cable usb type a (ordinary usb plug) - micro usb. You can get any such cable, it's not necessary that the cable meets any specific requirements.
Sent from my Galaxy Note running ICS

shaolin95 said:
Looks like I made a stupid move by asking the other user to flash CM9 because I just read the CM9 log:
Speakerphone is a bit broken
USB OTG doesn't work
MHL doesn't work
So two cables I wont be able to use right away.
I guess its time to start reading up on what I can use to get those working.
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But you can go back to GB,right? Just be very careful! and read all guide.
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Yeah I have been considering GB for sure but it seems ICS is "safe" as long as I dont user recovery or trying to reset it.
decisions...

Yeah,but on GB everything works.
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try cyanofree .... I dont have any problem at all except the fact that it's been discontinued
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cager external batter/sd card reader

will i be able to use the external battery and sd card made by cager ( search in dealexterme, i cant post links yet) with my nexus for watching movies etc.
thx
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no

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why not?

N4 has no OTG support
"no" is right, unfortunately the N4 does NOT have OTG support... this is hardware based not software, so I doubt it will ever be able to do it...

eisaiasjr said:
"no" is right, unfortunately the N4 does NOT have OTG support... this is hardware based not software, so I doubt it will ever be able to do it...
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Yeah, the OTG is extremely unfortunate. The 8gb is a huge slap in a face, with only ~300mb wiggle room

eisaiasjr said:
"no" is right, unfortunately the N4 does NOT have OTG support... this is hardware based not software, so I doubt it will ever be able to do it...
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correct me if i wrong, the device dosent have otg support because the usb port cant produce enough voltage to turn on external devices. this external sd card reader is also a external battery so it has the voltage to turn itself on soshouldnt it work?

yarin699 said:
correct me if i wrong, the device dosent have otg support because the usb port cant produce enough voltage to turn on external devices. this external sd card reader is also a external battery so it has the voltage to turn itself on soshouldnt it work?
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no

yes
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2151159
http://dx.com/s/cager+sd

ziddey said:
yes
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2151159
http://dx.com/s/cager+sd
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I'm surprised you remembered to come back to this thread after a month lol.

DarkScorpion01 said:
I'm surprised you remembered to come back to this thread after a month lol.
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took me a while to find it :silly:

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took me a while to find it :silly:
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Anybody found it working??

[Q] tricky question about data recovery

So my screen cracked. The digitizer is all but completely useless, but the lcd screen is in tact. I've bought a new N7 already but I need to know if there's a way to recover things like pictures and saved files from it when I can't enable data transfer from the tablet. I do not have usb debugging enabled, it's bone stock with no flashes or roms or anything fancy like that. Is there anything i can do short of replacing the screen assembly?
inb4 noob
inb4 get a case next time
any help will be greatly appreciated,
Thanks!
TShep

trippysheppy said:
So my screen cracked. The digitizer is all but completely useless, but the lcd screen is in tact. I've bought a new N7 already but I need to know if there's a way to recover things like pictures and saved files from it when I can't enable data transfer from the tablet. I do not have usb debugging enabled, it's bone stock with no flashes or roms or anything fancy like that. Is there anything i can do short of replacing the screen assembly?
inb4 noob
inb4 get a case next time
any help will be greatly appreciated,
Thanks!
TShep
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Get a USB otg cable and a USB mouse. Plug it into the tablet and then enable the USB debugging/auto mount mtd if possible. Then mount the mtd to your PC and copy the lot? If that fails use a mouse with a USB 4 hub, and a pen drive/ hard drive and try copy it all to that.
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heavy_metal_man said:
Get a USB otg cable and a USB mouse. Plug it into the tablet and then enable the USB debugging/auto mount mtd if possible. Then mount the mtd to your PC and copy the lot? If that fails use a mouse with a USB 4 hub, and a pen drive/ hard drive and try copy it all to that.
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+1 for the USB mouse w/ OTG cable.
I suppose with a mouse you can do anything that you would be able to do with a finger and a digitizer, maybe with the exception of multi-touch.
I'm not sure about the hub business, though - I looked around on the Internet, and I see a mixed bag of reports. But I would think that a JellyBean Nexus would be one of the Android devices most likely to succeed.
If the hub idea doesn't work, there's always the idea of using the mouse and transferring files to a network share on your home network, sending them to dropbox, zipping them up and sending them to a ftp server, yadda yadda yadda.
If it's a rooted device and you have adb working with a custom recovery, then
Code:
adb pull /sdcard/
(note trailing slash, it seems to be important)
will recursively copy EVERYTHING from the /sdcard to your PC, or the MTP trick with the regular OS might work too. Make sure you have enough room and enough time!
Heck, "adb pull /sdcard/" might even work with the regular OS booted - but it could be clumsy if you are running 4.2.2 because of the "improved adb security". (Plug to PC & start adb ; wait for security pop up to happen; unplug PC, plug in mouse, click on dialog, unplug mouse, re-plug PC, try adb again?) Good thing the custom recoveries don't have all that fancy security!
Well, anyway, that's a couple of different suggestions.
good luck

I've found that hubs work well for me, but i didn't stay stock for long. So it may be the custom roms, but i think stock should work too
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heavy_metal_man said:
I've found that hubs work well for me, but i didn't stay stock for long. So it may be the custom roms, but i think stock should work too
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Powered or unpowered hubs?
You are using a "normal" OTG cable, and not one of those odd "Y" cable usage scenarios, is that right?
I have an old USB 1.0 unpowered hub laying around here somewhere. I should give it a roll - it should be plenty fast enough for a mouse and a keyboard

bftb0 said:
Powered or unpowered hubs?
You are using a "normal" OTG cable, and not one of those odd "Y" cable usage scenarios, is that right?
I have an old USB 1.0 unpowered hub laying around here somewhere. I should give it a roll - it should be plenty fast enough for a mouse and a keyboard
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Both i believe, but i havent used the unpowered one in a while. I also have the standard otg cable, not the y. But i have been meaning to get one for my sensation...
I will be back near my nexus in the next half an hour so i will double check it for you pal
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heavy_metal_man said:
Both i believe, but i havent used the unpowered one in a while. I also have the standard otg cable, not the y. But i have been meaning to get one for my sensation...
I will be back near my nexus in the next half an hour so i will double check it for you pal
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio Z715e using xda premium
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sorry for my late response. i have tested with an unpowered usb hub with a usb mouse, usb keyboard and a usb pen drive (16gb) and it works for me perfectly i didnt need stick mount or anything.
i am using a:
32gb wifi n7
paranoid android version 3.10
stock paranoid android kernel
android version 4.2.2
generic 4 way usb hub.
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heavy_metal_man said:
sorry for my late response. i have tested with an unpowered usb hub with a usb mouse, usb keyboard and a usb pen drive (16gb) and it works for me perfectly i didnt need stick mount or anything.
i am using a:
32gb wifi n7
paranoid android version 3.10
stock paranoid android kernel
android version 4.2.2
generic 4 way usb hub.
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Thanks. I'll have to try and find my hub & see how it rolls with the stock kernel & ROM. I think maybe the PA ROM kernel has USB host-mode patches?
Well, anyway... I hope we're not confusing the OP by going off topic. Nothing but silence from the OP...

bftb0 said:
Thanks. I'll have to try and find my hub & see how it rolls with the stock kernel & ROM. I think maybe the PA ROM kernel has USB host-mode patches?
Well, anyway... I hope we're not confusing the OP by going off topic. Nothing but silence from the OP...
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Its possible, but I still believe it should work on stock . At the very least the mouse will work for the op
Hope the op has not been taken by the internet
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heavy_metal_man said:
Hope the op has not been taken by the internet
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This is a rough neighborhood. Lots of drive-by shootings go on down here.

bftb0 said:
This is a rough neighborhood. Lots of drive-by shootings go on down here.
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I know! Its chaos in these developer parts
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