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Samaung testing 2.3 on our I9000!

Samfirmware twittered last night http://mobile.twitter.com/samfirmware/status/34382086026567681
Samsung test Android 2.3 for i9000 and p1000 we have no more info at the moment.
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This is very good news!

Why make another thread for this ? It's already in the "Android 2.3 any info?" post.. It's XDA Forum here, not Twitter, we don't need zillion of posts about 2.3 status.

very good!!!!!

I think they testing on their own i9000 because mine still got 2.2 froyo wich is also not official rom because no foryo yet released for pakistan

samsung is extremely lazy in releasing updates, so relax and go to sleep !

Haven't they been 'testing' for months....
Useless!!
I was personally told they were testing 2.3 before froyo was even released for the sgs.
Come upgrade day, not sure I will stick with Samsung, I love my sgs but the updates and software coding they do to their own android versions, really does suck.
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While i agree with the Samsung bashing about software quality and other updates.
Is there any real benefit to roms on other devices. I know of cyanogen name miui. But at the end of the day there ain't too much of a benefit over what we already have.
At the end of the day what Samsung may lack in software they made up for in the hardware on our devices.
Everybody here will have done their research before buying the device, it weren't hard to work out Samsung were still getting to grips with android.
Im sure in time they will mature and make very good software, but this will take time. Rome wasn't built in a day.
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Totally agree man, the SGS was my first android, and also my first Samsung and I have been with them ever since. I have bought a nexus S the day it came out. Samsung hardware is great but they seemed to be overwhelmed with the different models and such. And with the SGS2 coming out soon, I am not sure about 2.3 for us. However that is why XDA is so important for us.
Rome might not be built in a day, but ROMs can be
SkinBobUk said:
While i agree with the Samsung bashing about software quality and other updates.
Is there any real benefit to roms on other devices. I know of cyanogen name miui. But at the end of the day there ain't too much of a benefit over what we already have.
At the end of the day what Samsung may lack in software they made up for in the hardware on our devices.
Everybody here will have done their research before buying the device, it weren't hard to work out Samsung were still getting to grips with android.
Im sure in time they will mature and make very good software, but this will take time. Rome wasn't built in a day.
Sent From My GalaxyS Iphone Killer
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While I appreciate the fine work done on the xda ROM's, I would much rather like the official ROM that has undergone a lot of testing and has the backing of the manufacturer. Since Samsung has not given any indication of its commitment to a phone beyond a few months, the Galaxy S would probably be the last Samsung product that I buy.

chrisjcks said:
Haven't they been 'testing' for months....
Useless!!
I was personally told they were testing 2.3 before froyo was even released for the sgs. Come upgrade day, not sure I will stick with Samsung, I love my sgs but the updates and software coding they do to their own android versions, really does suck.
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This might come as a shock, but it's one thing to ship a customised ROM with plenty of upgrade issues (etc).
It's a total other for a major company to do so. I know the guys at XDA make ROM development seem easy, but the reality is, that's because Samsung has already done most the work for them.. Lets be realistic, any ROM out there in the community which isn't a slightly modified Samsung ROM, is extremely buggy still.. Furthermore, Samsung needs to consider the various rebranded models, etc.

Auzy said:
This might come as a shock, but it's one thing to ship a customised ROM with plenty of upgrade issues (etc).
It's a total other for a major company to do so. I know the guys at XDA make ROM development seem easy, but the reality is, that's because Samsung has already done most the work for them.. Lets be realistic, any ROM out there in the community which isn't a slightly modified Samsung ROM, is extremely buggy still.. Furthermore, Samsung needs to consider the various rebranded models, etc.
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Bro, have you tried CM7? It's fricken amazing.
A lot of folks here on XDA are (almost) as talented, or even more so, than half the clowns working at Samsung. I'm sure they learn a thing or two from around here.
Only reason the Nexus S is so good is because Google did all the development.
Yes, Samsung has eventually shipped very nice & fast 2.2.1 ROMs. But how long did it take, and how long will it take for Gingerbread?
I'm placing my faith in CM7 which will continue to improve.

chambo622 said:
Bro, have you tried CM7? It's fricken amazing.
A lot of folks here on XDA are (almost) as talented, or even more so, than half the clowns working at Samsung. I'm sure they learn a thing or two from around here.
Only reason the Nexus S is so good is because Google did all the development.
Yes, Samsung has eventually shipped very nice & fast 2.2.1 ROMs. But how long did it take, and how long will it take for Gingerbread?
I'm placing my faith in CM7 which will continue to improve.
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I wouldn't doubt samsung used some of the kernel devs from heres code in their 2.2.1 roms (namely lastufo, hardcore and trasig)

jaganm said:
While I appreciate the fine work done on the xda ROM's, I would much rather like the official ROM that has undergone a lot of testing and has the backing of the manufacturer. Since Samsung has not given any indication of its commitment to a phone beyond a few months, the Galaxy S would probably be the last Samsung product that I buy.
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Unfortunately that is also my point of view and I cannot spend my hard earned money to a company that cannot commit itself to it's costumers. Probably the Galaxy S will be the last phone from Samsung that I buy.
On a side note, I'm looking forward for the Nokia / Microsoft partnership. I played with a WP7 this days and I got very surprise by the build quality and software.

Arkymedes said:
Unfortunately that is also my point of view and I cannot spend my hard earned money to a company that cannot commit itself to it's costumers. Probably the Galaxy S will be the last phone from Samsung that I buy.
On a side note, I'm looking forward for the Nokia / Microsoft partnership. I played with a WP7 this days and I got very surprise by the build quality and software.
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WP7 would be mistake buddy ....

if we can't get 2.3 from samsung, maybe ROM modders here in XDA can

chambo622 said:
Bro, have you tried CM7? It's fricken amazing.
A lot of folks here on XDA are (almost) as talented, or even more so, than half the clowns working at Samsung. I'm sure they learn a thing or two from around here.
Only reason the Nexus S is so good is because Google did all the development.
Yes, Samsung has eventually shipped very nice & fast 2.2.1 ROMs. But how long did it take, and how long will it take for Gingerbread?
I'm placing my faith in CM7 which will continue to improve.
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I'm afraid this post is pure tripe!
CM7 is nowhere near stable yet; not even all the "advertised" features work! I'm not bashing them, because they know there's still bugs, but just think for a minute.... how vocal would you be, in a very demeaning manner, if Samsung had put out CM7 as it stands now?
As for Google "doing all the development [on Nexus S] - I think you'll find that they only did (at most) 50%. Most, if not all, the initial hardware driver support, which is the KEY to making Android work on any device, will have been done by Samsung, as it's them who has the knowledge, skills & facilities to make the phone. Once you've got the hardware drivers / abstraction layer; its very easy to put any OS you want on top! (do you really, really think there's a huge hardware difference between Samsung's Bada, Android, WP7 & even Symbian phones?)
Now, I'm not saying Samsung are the best at delivering updates, but they're better than some *cough* Motorola *cough* and their hardware is still the pinnacle of what's available. And yes, there's a few talented people on XDA, but there's also a hell of a lot more who muddy the waters and generally add to the nonsense going round by wrongly accusing Samsung / XDA devs / polar bears of X, Y, & Z.

Some of you have to take a good look into all that is "technology" and the likes...Most likely, once a device is out, YOU WILL NOT GET MAJOR UPDATES besides bug correction. And this is valid for every company.
Consider yourself lucky to get major release like 2.2 or 2.3, most of the others makers (HTC, Sony, Motorola) are still on 2.1.
Take a good look there and see by yourself:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Android_devices
Most of the devices don't even have 2.2.1 and the only one with 2.3 is still Nexus S.
WP7 had a long run before releasing the first bug correction (not even sure if it's out yet...)
Even worst, iOs users have to PAY for their release
So, you can complain all you want but reality is far from what you are thinking...
Now, as for 2.3, it's supposed to be optimised for SGS hardware (because of the Nexus S), can't wait to see how it goes!

theres a good chance we will get 2.3 because galaxy s phone are still being sold and the 4g ones

I sincerely hope samsung is gonna surprise us one of these days (even then probably later rather than sooner), since 2.3 is finally optimized for the hummingbird aswell... Also the screen shutdown animation kicks ass.
On another note: Samsung should really communicate better, and ffs train your customer support. I tried to poke for some information earlier this week, and I got a response saying: Samsung is not responsible for the updates, please contact the responsible party, in this case "Android".

Testing ! In galaxy S2 v2.3 ... S3 v2.4
Galaxy S 16Gb Int
CM7 Honeycomb

[Q] no official ics for samsung i9000??

Samsung hasnt confirmed that there would be a official android 4.0 update for samsung i9000. So does this mean we will not get it as a official update? Cuz there is alot of other samsung phones that have been confirmed.

The SGS is almost 2 yrs old,so I'm assuming Samsung might have given up on us.But then again,till it's confirmed,nobody can know for sure.Besides,even if the official ICS for SGS is out,we're gonna end using the custom ROM anyway
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Maybe if we make a few more threads about this we will get an answer? We're probably only 10-20 more threads away if we just keep at it.

Hopefully Samsung hears the pleads of i9000 users and gives us an official update so the devs have a Easyer time giving us the roms.
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I will look forward to getting an official answer to this question.. but SlvrWolf~XP makes a good point...

It will probably be unlikely for Samsung to update our Galaxy S i9000 to ICS since we've already gotten update TWICE (not many phone brand and models got such privilege, Eclair > Froyo > GingerBread). And Samsung may want to make both Galaxy S I and S II (with Nexus S) differentiated so that more people are encouraged to buy the newer phones...

I think SGS will not get ICS
Read today info from Samsung Mobile https://www.facebook.com/notes/sams...ch-upgrade-for-galaxy-devices/328795820483403

Yeah, they just announced on twitter too, seems like Galaxy S is not in the update list.
Well, a port from ICS on the Nexus S should work just fine.
I wonder what their reasons are for not updating the Galaxy S, obviously it's not platform limitations since the Nexus S got it, shame on Samsung, hope they loose lots of costumers .
(BTW I have a Nexus S but I'm pissed for Samsung's attitude!)

MFire said:
shame on Samsung, hope they loose lots of costumers .
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Things is who are they going to lose customers to? HTC and Motorola phones from early-mid 2010 aren't going to get it either. The answer for updates is to get a Nexus phone from...oops.
The whole landscape of branded devices sucks not just Samsung, but I guess 'the grass is always greener' and people will just move to another manufacturer with little or no research into the facts of whether they are actually better for updates or not. If we take a look:
Moto announced a list of devices...not even the Atrix dual-core phone released in early 2011 was included, although it may be added. Anything from 2010 you can probably forget it.
On the HTC side the phone that came out at the same time as the SGS, at least around here, was the Desire. They had a heck of a time getting gingerbread to run on that apparently, ICS is probably out of the question, so no improvement there.
Basically anywhere I look only phones released within the last year are getting ICS officially. The grass isn't always greener, although I suspect many will jump over the fence without taking a very close look. Again the only real answer is a Nexus, unfortunately this iteration is a bit disappointing so myself I'm going to try and hold out for the next one although I admit at this point a year seems very far away.

and think of it from a business POV st's not good business practice to have complete support for an old platform, I mean look at MS the ONLY reason they still support XP is because of businesses, though that's slipping away furthermore 2 year contracts are common place for phones nowadays due to most being smartphone related so people who own the SGS back in 2010 are now due for an upgrade anyway so it won't bother the main bulk of consumers.
Personally I'm planning on waiting it out for the SGSIII so regardless the i9000 gets it for most is irrelevant.

Not a surprise for me and I don’t care what Sammy is doing.
Long live CM9

Well the thing is not other do... the thing is Galaxy S is still with a shi#y firmware after all this time. Not even on its "death" there is not a stock rom to make it perform as it should. Cmon' take a look at CM7... now imagine a Samsung built ROM based on it, even with all that crappy TouchWiz.. great camera, 720p recording, great battery life, fast as light.
Now... how can I buy another phone from them, knowing that maybe it will never work as it should. When SGS was released everybody said how fast it is, king of the hill... wth, it was crawling... Unfortunately, Samsung has Gorilla glass, has Amoled, low prices.... HTC has gread build quality, no Gorilla, no low prices, high performance....

Very disappointed by Samsung.
This is a high end device released in 2010 and already abandoned.
The S1 is perfectly compatible with ICS, this is pure business, or how to force
people to buy a new phone they don't need. Planned obsolescence, just like apple (but even Apple or HTC offer better software support...)
Of course there will be unofficial roms, but imho it's never the same quality as an official one.
Next time i'll choose an official google nexus device.

Samsung forgot his smart baby snif
Cyano is here, fortunatly, to give GS1 users a good Ics experience

Samsung lost me as a customer if they choose not to update the SGS. I've already said I'll never buy a Samsung phone in the past because of their lack of support and lack of timely updates, but this now goes to anything Samsung.
I have a Samsung laptop and a Samsung TV, both of which I'll be replacing with a newer model in the coming weeks, but now those replacements will not be Samsung models.
I wouldn't be upset if there was a hardware compatibility issue like lack of memory, but there isn't.
It's perfectly capable. As for this 18 month thing, fine. Let them use that. But my i9000m only has 2.3.3 while the rest of the world has 2.3.6. They stopped updating my phone a long time ago, so they didn't even give me 18 months since they stopped me at 2.3.3 with all it's problems.
HTC even gave some of their older phones gingerbread by scaling down HTC sense to accommodate hardware limitations. Yet Samsung won't with no limitations for ICS.
The Galaxy Nexus was a phone I was thinking about, but no longer. I'm not going to line Samsungs pockets anymore. I'll wait to do my upgrade to the Next Nexus that hopefully will be made by a different manufacturer.
Samsung screwed their update processes with the million incarnations of our phones. Updates are too hard and lengthy for them to complete because of this, so they are taking the easy way out.
Samsungs war with Apple? They just sent a lot of SGS owners their way. At least you know your phone well always get updates provided the hardware is capable, even if they have to scale it down like they did on the 3GS.
I for one will never buy Apple, but count me in the camp of never buying Samsung again too if I don't get ICS officially from them.
My apologies for my rant.
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Here i come apple, samsung made me to. 3GS is older than sgs and it runs iOS5 from this year. Something android phones can just dream on.

I agree with you Greeced.
The SGS has been well maintained to date.
But the samsung's update policy is just catastrophic.
In some countries, people don't even have an official gingerbread update trough Kies.
Samsung sold millions of SGS in the world (the device is still available in most countries). Their policy is unacceptable. And it's too easy to blame the operators.
Next time i'll choose an official google nexus phone (regardless of the manufacturer) because they are always good phones and it's a guarantee to have a long-term support.

To everyone that says "x company will lose sales", while that may be true, how many of the millions sold are used by people who have knowledge or interest in the latest android? Many buy the phone and enjoy it and use it, and just don't care or aren't particularly bothered by the update pattern.

What I find amazing is that the Galaxy S Plus isn't even on the list and that's what, 6 months old?

zbal said:
Very disappointed by Samsung.
This is a high end device released in 2010 and already abandoned.
The S1 is perfectly compatible with ICS, this is pure business, or how to force
people to buy a new phone they don't need. Planned obsolescence, just like apple (but even Apple or HTC offer better software support...)
Of course there will be unofficial roms, but imho it's never the same quality as an official one.
Next time i'll choose an official google nexus device.
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I believe that is the mentality that they want the market to have...mission complete.

Android updates timeline

You guys all knows that Google and Sony Ericsson ( along with some other manufacturers ) agrees to provide Android updates for at least 18 months after the device being launched as long as the device hardware can handle the new version...
This is a very good step.. but I think it's not enough...
1- A lot of time the manufacturer needs several months to do a new Android version update, for example the ICS needs 3 - 5 months for SE to have it across it's mobiles, others like LG needs more ( 4 - 6 months )... in this time Google may release another updates to Android...
2- All Manufacturer can't do updates for long time, coz doing so cost money, and customers always ask to make the mobile cheaper... doing both is not possible.. if a manufacturer want to make longer updates. it should have money to cover all the expenses.. and if the phone was sold cheap with small margin of profit, it might not justifies the longer updates...
3- Sometimes new and major Android versions might come with more requirement regarding the hardware.. yes it might runs well on that device, but because the manufacturer uses it's own skin and junk apps ( what ever ) the phone might not have enough memory for this.. most manufacturers wont agree to update the phone without their skin... so they will refuse to do the update if they can't make the phone runs without their brand customization... like for example Samsung and their Galaxy S... and HTC ( even thought they trim their rom and decided to release the update )...
The device is just not designed with extra RAM, ROM to handle future updates...
I think we might have some solutions to these problems
1- Companies should give more to the developers/custom ROM community, even with signing some agreements with them.. for example SE have their Exmor sensors but CM can't use it's all power... so SE gave them so they can embed them in CM ROM's for phones like arc and Neo.. custom ROM's like CM doesn't have a skin, it uses Android native launcher so they don't require that much of resources... so incase the manufacturer can't update to the newer android because of this reason, they should cooperate with the open developer communities to do so.. this will not require money for development as the manufacturer will only need to give parts of the source codes the and developer community will do the rest...
2- Manufacturer can get rid of some junk apps after a while... removing some junk apps can free a lot of RAM and ROM.. and thus providing more space for newer Android releases, this is what HTC did with one of their phones after they discovered they can't upgrade it to 2.3 because their Sense launcher take too much RAM !!
3- Google should do more regarding the new major Android release, I know Google only cooperate with the manufacturer that makes the new Nexus phone, and other manufacturer will need to wait till the release of the final source code...
but I think Google should make other major manufacturer take a look at source code before the final get released, at least for the finished parts so they can work on the code before, and when the final source released all things will be easy and can work faster.. at least they can do the things that require certification which require the longest time for any new update is coming...

Well, best article ? is it ur thoughts ... Well explained...
anyhw thanks....
SE is best among others coz their unique design which is not available on other manufacturers.
I agree with ur last statement google should reveal their source code to mobile industry only

If all Android phones just used the stock launcher, there would be no difference between manufactures and their phones... so they NEED their skins to be different... the skin and the features it provide, are important when users choose their next phone (if they don't want a custom roms)...
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zonetrooper90 said:
If all Android phones just used the stock launcher, there would be no difference between manufactures and their phones... so they NEED their skins to be different... the skin and the features it provide, are important when users choose their next phone (if they don't want a custom roms)...
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This ^
and: manufactures cannot guarantee the quality of these aftermarket roms. The average customer would rather have a outdated stable ROM, than the latest version, which takes a lot of hassle to flash.
But, I want to mention that Sony Ericsson is making good steps in this. If you go to the bootloader unlock page, there's a link "for help also see the XDA forums".

zonetrooper90 said:
If all Android phones just used the stock launcher, there would be no difference between manufactures and their phones... so they NEED their skins to be different... the skin and the features it provide, are important when users choose their next phone (if they don't want a custom roms)...
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Flawed logic. Why doesn't HTC make sense like golauncher or adwlauncher? Make it installable, problem solved. People don't want "skins", they want android. It's completely unacceptable to have to wait 5 months to get an update, and sometimes you never get the update at all. For example, EVO 3D owners will never see 2.3.5, .6 or .7, that's ridiculous. But people just accept it instead of spamming HTC's twitter.
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bloodrain954 said:
Flawed logic. Why doesn't HTC make sense like golauncher or adwlauncher? Make it installable, problem solved. People don't want "skins", they want android. It's completely unacceptable to have to wait 5 months to get an update, and sometimes you never get the update at all. For example, EVO 3D owners will never see 2.3.5, .6 or .7, that's ridiculous. But people just accept it instead of spamming HTC's twitter.
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Why does everyone talk about "people" when in fact they talk about themselves?
I am one of the "people" and I don't like AOSP Android. I like skins like UXP and Sense because they are much more than eye-candy. They offer a feeling of consistensy and enhance usability.
And, in my totally humble opinion, it wouldn't hurt if people actually started using their phones instead of using them as another excuse to be bitter and whiny. I do so much more with my phone than waiting for the next Android version...
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Agree, 2.3.X
X hardly matters to me..
I am using Xperia Arc, tried almost every launcher available but I find the Default Xperia Laucher BEST, again its just my opinion..
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iridaki said:
Why does everyone talk about "people" when in fact they talk about themselves?
I am one of the "people" and I don't like AOSP Android. I like skins like UXP and Sense because they are much more than eye-candy. They offer a feeling of consistensy and enhance usability.
And, in my totally humble opinion, it wouldn't hurt if people actually started using their phones instead of using them as another excuse to be bitter and whiny. I do so much more with my phone than waiting for the next Android version...
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Same here.
There are more important things and we'll get the update.
WhenI flashed the ICS theme and was happy to have a device with a nice skin as the stock themes of Android aren't that nice and feel cheap compared to Sony's theme or HTC Sense.
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The real problem I noticed is not the phone manufacturer but the service provider like AT&T or Verizon for example who sometime refuses to update old model device even if the phone manufacturer has released the update. They do it so than they can sell new device. ZDNET had an article about this. But here in India 95% of people will buy phone then get a SIM card so no problem no one is blocking our updates.
Regarding agreement with community won't really work don't get me know we have great developers out here but as posted in one of the SE article it's not easy to build a firmware they have to certify everything and we know how long it takes for a custom ROM to be stable let's take CM for instance, we community don't mind bugs but average users won't tolerate it and would end up suing the company.
I have to agree about custom UI mentioned before even if I like stock Google view you can't really compare with HTC Sense or Sony's UI or features.
My 2 cents

Captivate gets Gingerbread. Vibrant now only Galaxy S without it.

I may be wrong but I think this officially means Vibrant is the only Galaxy S on a major carrier without Gingerbread. Thank you T-Mobile or Samsung, whichever one of you is responsible for leaving us behind.
Captivate updated to Gingerbread via Kies Mini, not At&t OTA. Leading me to think Samsung is responsible for not updating Vibrant not T-Mobile, but who knows.
I guess people can still use custom Gingerbread/Ice Cream Sandwhich roms, but then we know you put your life at risk with no 911 and half ass GPS.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/01/10/atts-samsung-captivate-finally-gets-updated-to-gingerbread/
Come on Samsung give us a Kies Mini Gingerbread update!

Samsung already announced this -> http://androidandme.com/2012/01/dev...updated-to-android-4-value-pack-or-otherwise/
Manufacturers are generally responsible for Android updates to their devices, then through the carrier to the end customer. Here is an excellent article about it->
http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2011/12/only-android-compatible/

And you expected a different outcome? As much as I liked the Vibrant except for the suck GPS, I gave up on it and imported a Galaxy Nexus back when it launched. I will never.....ever....get suckered into another phone that has the Tmobile name stamped on it. And to think they just announced the Blaze 4G.....why? So they can screw the remaining customers with a Galaxy S 4G out of support?

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And you expected a different outcome? As much as I liked the Vibrant except for the suck GPS, I gave up on it and imported a Galaxy Nexus back when it launched. I will never.....ever....get suckered into another phone that has the Tmobile name stamped on it. And to think they just announced the Blaze 4G.....why? So they can screw the remaining customers with a Galaxy S 4G out of support?
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Harsh words my friend but very true.
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Vibrant probably won't ever get it unfortunately, though nothing stock on the vibrant was ever good.

God, all you guys do is *****. Go flash ics or an i9000 gb port. They're perfectly stable with great battery life. It's better than being stuck on froyo.
You're in xda. If you wanna complain about not getting an update, go do it in the T-Mobile forums.
Think of it this way: At least you didn't but a crappy htc phone.
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Vibrant has been fine for me. I have CM7 nightly 182 (the last one )
Yeah, no GPS, but whatever. I'm now just waiting on an ICS build that fixes the mute/unmute issue to flash.
Samsung really dropped the ball on this phone, but it didn't stop me from making the best of it. When a "must have" quad core comes out, I'm upgrading. Until then, I'm happy with what I got.

I agree with Thechosenone, ICS Passion v11 works beautifully on my Vibrant. If you do not want to unlock your phone's true potential what are you doing in XDA? That is the whole reason this site exists, so devs can perfect their ROMS by getting user feedback and such.... Go ***** on the T mo forums please!

Jeffe5 said:
I agree with Thechosenone, ICS Passion v11 works beautifully on my Vibrant. If you do not want to unlock your phone's true potential what are you doing in XDA? That is the whole reason this site exists, so devs can perfect their ROMS by getting user feedback and such.... Go ***** on the T mo forums please!
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Well Passion may work really, really well but imagine what it could do with the actual code from the actual ICS ROM? Think there would be the mute/unmute bug, or the Deep Sleep issues, or the GPS (aside from hardware problems) issues? This thread is about GB and not ICS but you brought it up.
XDA is for developers, not people like you and me. We are nothing more that by-products. Now if those developers really want to create something special, how do they do it. By getting the source of course (github ring a bell).
Complaining here about GB or ICS is futile b/c we are not going to get either. We can try (see my signature) but until the give us the code, there will be unresolved issues. Take a look at the 2.2 ROMs. How many of those have problems. Very few my friend. Now take a look at any 2.3 ROM. Every single one of them has battery issues and/or memory leaks. Why do you think that is? Because we got an "official" Froyo to build off of and have yet to see ann "offical" GB (not a port mind you).

The vibrant is considered discontinued. It doesn't make sense for Tmobile to support it any longer. Plus, all those people that chose to switch to the memory gimped gs4g didn't help the situation any. Just think of it this way: anyone who got the vibrant will be eligible for an upgrade right around the time the gs3 will be released. Hopefully it comes with an exynos processor this time.
As far as source code is concerned, at least we have hardware that is very close to the international version.
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I agree with Thechosenone, ICS Passion v11 works beautifully on my Vibrant. If you do not want to unlock your phone's true potential what are you doing in XDA? That is the whole reason this site exists, so devs can perfect their ROMS by getting user feedback and such.... Go ***** on the T mo forums please!
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Do you have the mute/unmute issue? I didn't know if it was for every Vibrant or certain ones. For my work, I can't be muting and unmuting every incoming call ... Thanks in advance!

It doesn't matter anyway. All of the new phones are incremental upgrades at best. If you think about the price/functionality ratio, the vibrant is still the best bet for those who already own it. I can't justify $680 (Nexus) for a phone that can't do anything that my phone does already, just because it's updated more frequently.
I would love to have that screen, but if I just hold out and actually own my Vibrant for 2 years (July 2012), I'm sure I'll have access to Samsung's Quad-Core, which will probably be much better than Tegra 3. Plus the HD screen will probably be upgraded to Plus. Not to mention the GPU itself will be immaculate for all the phone gamers out there.
As far as ICS, there is a viable option on the Vibrant and it will continue to improve. As for me, I always end up going back to Bionix V anyway (the battery life/performance perfect balance)

I will aways be sad about the lack of official post froyo rom for such a great phone as the Vibrant is. We, xda users, wouldn't use a full Samsung GB or ICS rom, but just the officially ported GPS drivers would be a huge benefit. Sometimes I think that this is THE reason for no updates from Samsung: even they cant make it properly work in GB. And it just makes me admire even more the very talented devs here that make it work without docs.

Agreeing with others here: waiting for the unmute issue to be fixed then I'm jumping ship with my significant other's Vibrant. These ROMs are better than what Samsung/carriers release in my opinion.
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After switching back to Bionix 1.3.1 ROM (FishmanMod) from Gingerbread exported ROMs, I am still happy and can live with Vibrant, and after playing around with GS2 or newer android phones, feel no point on upgrading, Vibrant still works great

General irritation on Samsung/ICS/Android

Today is pretty much a sad day for Samsung, ICS and Android in general, in my opinion.
Androids latest version, ICS, has been released about 5 months ago. Today, the most important Android device available on the planet, has not yet seen an update to this latest version yet, and I think that is something to be ashamed of. As a pretty normal user, I don't know and don't really care how much development goes on before releasing a new version, but a company that sells 300 million handsets in a year (of which at least 20 million of this type of handset that have cost the user somewhere between 400 and 550 euro's) I expect some more dedication to deliver a finished product worthy of it's name, fame and money. Google should be very upset that their latest product stays more or less hidden from public for about 6 months in this high paced market because multi-billion multinationals choose to dedicate too few people to get the software side of things sorted out.
All the false rumours don't really add to the experience of having a top-end device. Countless piles of crap have been pushed out by various dubious sources simply because Samsung does not wish to pin itself to a date. They knew, that people would have been outraged if they had stated in october that ICS would be released on the Android phone as much as half a year later. Instead, they let the irritation smolder and only give some vague hints once or twice during the whole period.
In my opinion, smartphone use is not as much about hardware as many of the Android manufacturers and users would like to see. The race for top specs will probably look quite ridiculous a few years from now. The secret to having an amazing device has it's foundation in good hardware (not neccesarily top notch hardware though) and esthetics/design, but without proper software this foundation will still be only a foundation. Nobody likes to own the best foundation in the world when there are no walls, windows, furniture, household appliances and great looks and functionality to make the living pleasureable. Off course, Samsung does provide us with all that in some way or another, but it is lagging behind seriously, especially compared to the competing major OS'es.
Naturally, every Android user has the possibility to blast everything off the foundation and build something custom on it, being either Samsung stuff with some extra things and paint added or removed, or being prefab Cyanogenmod or MIUI or whatever, but unfortunately this argument is worth almost nothing since it is again Samsung who decides when the bits and pieces become available for custom building, and this is lagging even further behind than their own software building, much to the irritation of the developers of custom firmware.
So, to sum it up, I think this has been a praticularly bad day for all SGS2 Android smartphone lovers. And being beaten to it by some other competing manufacturer does not help!
Thanks for listening

Dude, relax. It is just a phone. An nice one, but still a phone.

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You do know Samsung don't have to release an update right?

Next time get a Nexus device, any other flavoured Android build takes time for adaptation and I'll rather they did a good job than rush a half baked build.
Your rant suggests you lack a fundamental understanding of the process.

Huge post lol
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i would rather have a stable rom with a bit of delay than a buggy one (doesnt apply to cyanogen mod )
and what are you on about its been about 3 months from the release of galaxy nexus
and anyways ics is coming tomorrow
we did have beta roms from december and we could see samsung patching bugs in each successive build this is what xda is we all work together to make our devices better and better

Stop moaning, HTC have just started rolling out ICS in certain regions, what about other Android manufacturers? Where's LG, where's Motorola? Where are their ICS leaks etc etc applies to all.
Each manufacturer has their own overlay on top of ICS this takes time and testing to get it right, it's a few months late oh well at least 2.3.6 is running fine though, there's no need for Samsung to update our phones to ICS they're a business do you think they care how long we have to wait no, they'd rather make money and focus on getting ICS running on their next flagship model then current flagship.
We will get it just a matter of when, if you don't like it get a Nexus, also made by Samsung.
All these posts bashing Samsung its just all the tech blogs making things worse!
If you dont like it get an iPhone or better yet a symbian device!
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lol, u mad

I would like the OP to tell me one thing that he/she can do on ICS that they can't do on gingerbread. And make it a decent example and not something like "monitor data usage" which I agree is nice to be built in but nothing that can't be done already with an app.
The way this post has been worded with all the "house/foundation" metaphor you would think that the SGS2 doesn't work at all atm and needs ICS to make it functional, which we all know is rubbish.
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@bluefa1con ICS is not coming tomorrow, they went back on their word this morning.
anyway, you're right, and i'm a bit disappointed because Samsung have been best buddy with Google since Google Dev Day 2011, they have access to early build of their OS, they even produced 2 Nexus phones for them, there's a huge meaning behind this, but still, Samsung waited till the last moment to start working on their flagship device, first leaked build started coming out after official ics aosp release, and their work is progressing very slowly, but, like someone before me said, it's just a phone, i just love playing around with it, and i don't mind waiting till april/may for a stable rom, all i want from them are kernel sources.

I completly agree with OP-post.
My rage is simple, I mean, We're the owners of the fastest and best device in 2011 and we still didnt even had a actual DATE. The only thing, that was said: "Q1 2012". If I remember correctly, they said that Galaxy S2 and Galaxy Note will have the update at Q1.
But let me tell you this, if they're still delaying date, and giving wrong info at their official(!) website, it seems that SGS2 ICS is not ready or something, that means that Galaxy Note is even out of place, probably, it will have the update somewhere at Q2 of 2012. It's totally unacceptable from such big and sucessful company as Samsung. We can't trust them, simply, they say one thing, tomorrow it will be "wrong" or something.
Samsung making great devices, and I love them, but the thing as they communicate with their customers, with their community - is just unacceptable. They won so much awards for their phone, and they, still, can't release their update to us.
Next time, i'll go to pure Google Phone.
Sorry for my poor English.

It is simple..they just dont respect us..hope there will be day they pay for this..
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dorian95 said:
I completly agree with OP-post.
My rage is simple, I mean, We're the owners of the fastest and best device in 2011 and we still didnt even had a actual DATE. The only thing, that was said: "Q1 2012". If I remember correctly, they said that Galaxy S2 and Galaxy Note will have the update at Q1.
But let me tell you this, if they're still delaying date, and giving wrong info at their official(!) website, it seems that SGS2 ICS is not ready or something, that means that Galaxy Note is even out of place, probably, it will have the update somewhere at Q2 of 2012. It's totally unacceptable from such big and sucessful company as Samsung. We can't trust them, simply, they say one thing, tomorrow it will be "wrong" or something.
Samsung making great devices, and I love them, but the thing as they communicate with their customers, with their community - is just unacceptable. They won so much awards for their phone, and they, still, can't release their update to us.
Next time, i'll go to pure Google Phone.
Sorry for my poor English.
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Same here mate..Those guys who have the GNEX are having the last laugh now. They even got a HTC sense 4.0 port as well those lucky bastards....I am gonna hold off till that release instead of going for the s3

About a year ago HTC decide to close their phones. That's why i decide to change to Samsung. And with me a lot of other HTC users. You are wright. This is not the way to communicate with your customers. This Samsung phone is my first and last one.
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Think about it this way a large proportion of users don't give a crap about what firmware is running on their phone as long as it works, us geeks or enthusiasts may give a crap, but my sister has got an S2, several other work colleagues have them to and none of them even know about custom roms and such let alone an update to ICS so to the mass it's not a major priority in having the latest or greatest firmware as long as they can use their phones that's what they care about.
Several work colleagues are still on the original firmware and I've told them to update but they don't care or don't have the technological ability to do so.
There is a higher percentage of normal users compared to us at XDA who make a minority.
And for those who say this will be their last Samsung device good for you, go buy a Nexus oh wait that's made by Samsung as well! I'll continue to enjoy my device running on gingerbread which works beautifully also knowing the fact it's still the best phone available currently apart from the Note which I consider a niche and better than the s2.
If you want aosp buy a Nexus otherwise deal with the fact that it takes longer to get an update. It's the way it is on Android, look at the other manufacturers as well its common. That's the problem with an open source system compared to iOS where there are a selected few devices so updates are quicker to roll out on the product lines.
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So what is next after ics update? There are going to be complaints that ics is bad, its touch wiz bla bla bla.
Ics is not going to turn your phone into super powered alien or going to give you 10 days backup. Why can't you people just wait.
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bala_gamer said:
So what is next after ics update? There are going to be complaints that ics is bad, its touch wiz bla bla bla.
Ics is not going to turn your phone into super powered alien or going to give you 10 days backup. Why can't you people just wait.
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Why does Touchwiz still look the same, along those lines.... Why is it still green, etc etc.
TouchWiz 5 will be for the next flagship.
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I like GB.

Powereh said:
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You do know Samsung don't have to release an update right?
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As in a contractual obligation? No indeed, I know that. But aparently (look around here on XDA) it is expected. Dissapoint customers too long, and you will be ditched for the one who doesn't.
Frostfree said:
Next time get a Nexus device, any other flavoured Android build takes time for adaptation and I'll rather they did a good job than rush a half baked build.
Your rant suggests you lack a fundamental understanding of the process.
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Yeah, because getting a Nexus device will get you there quicker Most Nexus S users are still waiting on their update to ICS since updating was stopped at dec 20th.
And somewhere in my post I did mention myself that I lack fundamental understanding of the process of building firmware for handsets, thanks for repeating that to me. That doesn't mean I'm unable to compare this process to other processes and draw conclusions as a customer.
Updating on Android is slow and ceases quickly (this will probably be the last major update for the SGS2 already), so when developing stuff for Android you need to take at least 5 different versions of the OS into concideration because the market shares of the versions are very fragmented. A nuisance for developers, and also for users stuck on Froyo for example who cannot install some app because the developer chose to only build it for 2.3+ to save some time and money.

If you guys dont care that much, why you're replaying to this kind of threads?
The only thing I am talking about, is lack of communication between customer and Samsung. How the hell they can give fresh news about ICS update on their official website, and then, immidiatly, deleting it, and telling in twitter something about "wrong date". How cool is that?
They can at least say one time 100% date, but they're just keep all in secret, that's not the good way how they should treat to custumers of best device in 2011.
I'm still shocked how Galaxy Note users keep waiting for it, one leak, no news, no everything. Obviously, Sammy didnt release ICS for them in March, then, their saying about "Galaxy Note & Galaxy S2 ICS in Q1 2012" is wrong.