1) Is there a difference between the Original Nook power adapter and the NST one (as far as power output)?
2) Will the nook usb power cord work the same as a generic micro usb cable? I know for instance the nook color cable has extra pins in it to provide more power.
Thanks!
Don't know about comparisons to the original Nook, but the USB cable provided with the Nook Touch is just a standard micro-USB cable. The Nook Touch doesn't need as much power as the Nook Color does.
dpippin said:
1) I know for instance the nook color cable has extra pins in it to provide more power.
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There are no extra pins.
However, as per the USB spec, the center two pins are shorted* together, indicating that the charger is a 'high current' device. Otherwise the device you are charging will assume it's connected to a pc usb port and limit power draw to ~500mA.
*either directly shorted or through a resistor
*There are extra pins.
An OTG (USB On-the-Go) micro USB cable has the fifth pin near the ground.
It is shorted to ground directly at the connector to indicate possible host usage.
This has absolutely nothing to do with charging though.
bobkoure said:
There are no extra pins.
However, as per the USB spec, the center two pins are shorted* together, indicating that the charger is a 'high current' device. Otherwise the device you are charging will assume it's connected to a pc usb port and limit power draw to ~500mA.
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The NC micro USB cable does have extra pins. This was verified through a physical examination of a NC cable:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1090504
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I setup a self-powered USB2.0 hub which has a 2.5AMP power adapter. I used a dual male (split) to single female USB cable and plugged the TAB USB cable into that.
This same dual cable & hub works fine to power an external USB hard-drive which won't work with just a single cable for power. I would think with 2+ AMPS it should charge the TAB "normally" (with no "x" on the battery indicator) but it does not, the "x" remains. All other devices have been removed from the hub.
Anyone else been able to get a normal charge off a PC or USB hub with a split cable? It's such a pain to have to put the TAB on the wall charger then switch it back to the PC.
when the screen is off the device charges, despite what the battery display says.
tca120 said:
when the screen is off the device charges, despite what the battery display says.
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Correction, it trickle charges. Very slowly.
LordLugard said:
Correction, it trickle charges. Very slowly.
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I understand that but I was under the obviously incorrect impression that if you used a double male USB to single female USB cable you would get a normal charge since there is more power available. Is the charge rate dependent on the TAB seeing power on a specific pin of the cable telling it that a charger is connected and not a cable to the PC? I'm connected to a self-powered hub with a big 2.5amp power supply and nothing else connected to it.
Has anybody tried this: 1. Setup a powered USB hub plugged into the Micro OTG cable 2. hack the cable from right after the OTG cable to where it plugs into the hub, so that the voltage pins are exposed 3. solder in the voltage pins to a usb connector so you can plug in a normal charger [5V 2A] 4. check to see if you can use the USB hub and charge at the same time
I currently have a Asus transformer TF101 and the primary use is watching clips off a 500GB usb HDD. I really, really want to get a N7 and sell my TF101, but if charging & simultaneous host mode is not possible, I would be slightly hesitant to buy it, because I would be eating up the battery much faster than I would like.
Hey guys,
If I use a 2 USB Type A male (1 for power from the Asus wall usb charger and the other for data from a computer) to a female Type A USB being plugged into the provided Asus Charge/sync cable, will it charge and sync at the same time or is the cable or hardware in the TF300T just not capable of doing both?
In case you are wondering, here's the cable we are using but instead of MIcro USB, its a female type A USB.
Thanks for your help.
Kits2GR said:
Hey guys,
If I use a 2 USB Type A male (1 for power from the Asus wall usb charger and the other for data from a computer) to a female Type A USB being plugged into the provided Asus Charge/sync cable, will it charge and sync at the same time or is the cable or hardware in the TF300T just not capable of doing both?
In case you are wondering, here's the cable we are using but instead of MIcro USB, its a female type A USB.
Thanks for your help.
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Don't bother doing the split that way -- there's a much better way to do this, assuming you're on a desktop. The Asus Transformer tablets will go into rapid-charge mode even at 12V (max 15V) on what's typically the 5V line. So if you use the existing 12V rail from your main power supply and send it through the 5V line, the tablet will charge and communicate over USB at the same time.
Make sure you isolate the 5V lead, otherwise you'll risk blowing something up by feeding 12V back into your motherboard.
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An OTG cable is not for charging/connecting your device to a computer. Instead of usb micro to a male usb, it's micro to female usb, so you can plug in peripherals and flash drives etc. to your device.
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When a normal USB is plugged in, the Nexus is in "slave" mode. Receives instructions.
When an OTG cable is plugged it allows it to be in "master" mode. Can give instructions.
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Stop... MUFFIN TIME!!!
There are basically 3 types of cables you can plug into the USB port of a Nexus 7:
1. A normal USB-to-microUSB cable, plugged into a computer or a USB charger. Either way it charges, and if it is hooked to a computer the N7 is in Client Mode and you can transfer files as well.
2. High-current chargers (like the one that comes with the Nexus 7). The data lines on these are shorted together; this tells the Nexus to accept higher current on the power lines for faster charging.
3. OTG cables have the normal 4 wires on the USB end - two for power, two for data - but on the microUSB end there is a fifth connection called USBID. Normally (as when using a normal 4-wire USB cable) the USBID pin is floating, i.e. not hooked to anything. On an OTG cable, the USBID pin is connected to the ground wire. This tells the N7 that an OTG device is plugged in, which causes it to do two things: it reverses the current on the power lines - because it needs to power whatever you have plugged into the OTG cable, like a USB card reader or keyboard - and it switches the USB interface from Client Mode (which it uses when it is plugged into a computer, because in that instance the N7 is a peripheral device) to Host Mode (because in that instance the OTG device is the peripheral and the N7 is the 'computer').
There is one other option for charging: the pogo pins on the side. (The 4 pins are 5V, stereo left, stereo right, and ground.) Providing power to the pogo pins (as when it is put in a dock) tells the N7 to accept high current on the pogo pins. Momentarily connecting 5V to the right stereo channel tells the N7 that external speakers are connected and it starts driving audio out the two center pogo pins. When this is happening the charging takes place through the dock, the USB connector can be used with a data cable or an OTG device, but no charging takes place through USB when the dock is connected. (An OTG device is still powered by the N7, but current never goes the other way.)
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There are basically 3 types of cables you can plug into the USB port of a Nexus 7:
1. A normal USB-to-microUSB cable, plugged into a computer or a USB charger. Either way it charges, and if it is hooked to a computer the N7 is in Client Mode and you can transfer files as well.
2. High-current chargers (like the one that comes with the Nexus 7). The data lines on these are shorted together; this tells the Nexus to accept higher current on the power lines for faster charging.
3. OTG cables have the normal 4 wires on the USB end - two for power, two for data - but on the microUSB end there is a fifth connection called USBID. Normally (as when using a normal 4-wire USB cable) the USBID pin is floating, i.e. not hooked to anything. On an OTG cable, the USBID pin is connected to the ground wire. This tells the N7 that an OTG device is plugged in, which causes it to do two things: it reverses the current on the power lines - because it needs to power whatever you have plugged into the OTG cable, like a USB card reader or keyboard - and it switches the USB interface from Client Mode (which it uses when it is plugged into a computer, because in that instance the N7 is a peripheral device) to Host Mode (because in that instance the OTG device is the peripheral and the N7 is the 'computer').
There is one other option for charging: the pogo pins on the side. (The 4 pins are 5V, stereo left, stereo right, and ground.) Providing power to the pogo pins (as when it is put in a dock) tells the N7 to accept high current on the pogo pins. Momentarily connecting 5V to the right stereo channel tells the N7 that external speakers are connected and it starts driving audio out the two center pogo pins. When this is happening the charging takes place through the dock, the USB connector can be used with a data cable or an OTG device, but no charging takes place through USB when the dock is connected. (An OTG device is still powered by the N7, but current never goes the other way.)
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Dont forget a "y cable", which can charge and preform host mode (otg) at the same time, only at a slower charging rate. This is providing you are using a kernel that supports this function. "Otg+host mode charging"
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Hello guys, I'm trying to interface android tab with peripherals. Problem is, it is having only one micro USB port which is used for charging and otg/host, only one function is possible at a time .But I need to charge the tab and simultaneously transfer data to peripherals, say for example I need to use external mouse and charge the tab at same time.
So, is there any way to do it?
I know usb has 4 pins 5v,d+,d-,gnd. I thought to wire charging input power to tab pin 5v and gnd and pin D+,D-of tab to mouse D+, D- and giving external power supply to 5v and gnd pin of mouse.
Is this a right method? To charge and transfer the data at the same time?
Kindly help me. Suggest a better way to do it.
(mini & micro) USB connectors have 5 pins: Vbus, D-, D+, Id, Gnd.
For OTG, the Id pin is connected to Gnd.
It's like the old adage, "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink."
You can connect a peripheral to an OTG host and have it work fine.
You can then connect an external power supply across the Vbus and Gnd.
The problem is, how does your host device know that it can "drink"?
There are basically two ways.
If the host detects power on its input before it switches into OTG host mode it may continue to charge.
If the host is in OTG host mode, device-specific commands to the charging circuits may convince it to charge.
There may also be non-standard Id resistor values for signalling host & charge for some devices.
I think your mileage would vary very much depending on what devices your using. AOS was not meant to deal with people hacking on the USB port, and probably the code to implement those features depend on your HW/FW.
If its a Samsung, you can play with some resistor values like these:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25532839&postcount=2
I think the USB "CarKit" specifications should allow you both to charge and "connect" in some way.
A more easy solution would be to use a BlueTooth mouse and keep charging as usual.