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[APP][DISCONTINUED] Grooveshark Mobile - SOURCE CODE PUBLISHED

UPDATE 9/10:
Sorry, the project is discontinued by me. The source code is published as an attachment.
Feel free to continue the development (but if you do, please mention my name somewhere).
End users: Please try Groovefish by Barguast instead!
Thanks for all your support!
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As the titles states, I've developed an application able to stream any song from Grooveshark.
The application is still full of bugs, so it should be considered more of a proof-of-concept at the moment.
I will spend my limited spare time on my new, still secret, project. Keep your eyes open
UPDATE 29/9:
New alpha version (0.2) released!
Some of the crashing is hopefully gone. Please leave feedback!
Known bugs:
BASS (the audio player) sometimes gives you a message box saying that the playback failed. Wait a few seconds and try again.
The spinning umbrella gets stuck on the result list (scroll a little to remove it).
The search query doesn't get copied from the search screen to the result/player screen.
Requirements:
Windows Mobile 6.1 (5.0, 6.0 and 6.5 will probably work).
.NET Compact Framework 3.5.
QVGA, VGA or WVGA screen resolution.
Download and screenshots as attachments.
Thanks to scilor for letting me use his kinetic scrolling demo code!

sounds a great idea.
unlikely to see a spotify app for a long while...

I think you shouldn't worry about it for a couple of reasons.
First, Grooveshark hasn't been labeled illegal.
Second, if Grooveshark has a problem with you reverse engineering their product they'll probably contact you first asking you to stop developing, at which point you might have to, or you can attempt to get hired by them for a windows mobile/ mobile version of their product all together!.... ( I doubt the last part, but I can hope can't I?)
Third, this is development forum, and you are developing within the bounds of things that aren't explicitly illegal.
So yeah, bring joy to our community and spread your knowledge.

looks like a great app, as said above a spotify app will be a long while off lol

sounds awesome, keep it up!

I would be VERY interested in this app.

Color me completely and unbelievably interested!!

Extremely interested. I could do graphics, if you wanted to go that approach.
I know this is very early, but I believe you could have a killer app:
*Kinetic Scrolling
*Great looks
*Easy to use
*User account?(maybe)

Thanks for all the response!
I've been improving the stability during the weekend and will now start to improve the looks.
intx said:
Extremely interested. I could do graphics, if you wanted to go that approach.
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Thanks, but right now I think I'm OK with the graphics. I'm using Fluid to get a nice look and feel.
Actually, I'm having more problem with the audio playback part, where I'm using BASS.
Stay tuned for more details and maybe a alpha version!

then let me offer my servics as a tester. I would use the app a lot, so I could help track down bugs. I have a Diamond, which is VGA.

if you need a betat tester count me in.

This sounds like a fantastic idea. How much bandwidth is required for streaming?
Fluid library looks nice, but it would be even better to use graphics similar to Grooveshark itself as it's interface would lend itself to mobile nicely.
Can't wait to give this a try

thanks at least for bringing this site to my attention. will try running it off my skyfire for now.

Blade0rz said:
This sounds like a fantastic idea. How much bandwidth is required for streaming?
Fluid library looks nice, but it would be even better to use graphics similar to Grooveshark itself as it's interface would lend itself to mobile nicely.
Can't wait to give this a try
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Grooveshark is streaming MP3 files, and the bitrate differs. Some songs I've tested are 128 kbit, and some are 192 kbit. There's most likely other bitrates as well. A regular 3G connection is between 64 kbit and 384 kbit, depending on the distance to the mobile mast. However, during my initial testing I've found no issues streaming the songs using my 3G connection.
Fluid is fully skinnable. In the first release it will probably "just work". In the upcoming ones I will try to make it look good as well. Your idea of making it look like the regular Grooveshark is really good.
As for the beta testing; I'm no fan of closed beta testings. I will publish I alpha or beta release as soon as possible (maybe in a week or two), and anyone may download it and help me locate the bugs.
/nile

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yeah same here, thanks for bringing this site to my attention. This app would be awesume...

nilezon said:
Grooveshark is streaming MP3 files, and the bitrate differs. Some songs I've tested are 128 kbit, and some are 192 kbit. There's most likely other bitrates as well. A regular 3G connection is between 64 kbit and 384 kbit, depending on the distance to the mobile mast. However, during my initial testing I've found no issues streaming the songs using my 3G connection.
Fluid is fully skinnable. In the first release it will probably "just work". In the upcoming ones I will try to make it look good as well. Your idea of making it look like the regular Grooveshark is really good.
As for the beta testing; I'm no fan of closed beta testings. I will publish I alpha or beta release as soon as possible (maybe in a week or two), and anyone may download it and help me locate the bugs.
/nile
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Streaming over HSDPA is really all I'm looking for Would be fantastic, although I'm not sure O2 would agree
If Fluid is skinnable, then it definitely looks as if it would be a very easy way to implement the Grooveshark interface.

Blade0rz said:
Streaming over HSDPA is really all I'm looking for Would be fantastic, although I'm not sure O2 would agree
If Fluid is skinnable, then it definitely looks as if it would be a very easy way to implement the Grooveshark interface.
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I'm thinking of creating a local cache function, so that you don't need to stream the same song several times. The cache will however not make it into this first alpha release, and (for all you pirates out there) I will encrypt the local cache files to avoid downloading of songs.
After some struggling with Fluid it's clear to me that I need to look for other ways of building the UI. Fluid is too limited in it's default state, and changing it would take too much time.
I will build a simple but touch friendly UI for the first release. If anyone have some sample code for kinetic scrolling, please PM me or post the code in this thread. Thanks!

nilezon said:
I'm thinking of creating a local cache function, so that you don't need to stream the same song several times. The cache will however not make it into this first alpha release, and (for all you pirates out there) I will encrypt the local cache files to avoid downloading of songs.
After some struggling with Fluid it's clear to me that I need to look for other ways of building the UI. Fluid is too limited in it's default state, and changing it would take too much time.
I will build a simple but touch friendly UI for the first release. If anyone have some sample code for kinetic scrolling, please PM me or post the code in this thread. Thanks!
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Found this on MSDN for legacy support:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333124
Of course the Windows Mobile 6.5 Developer Toolkit comes with some great gesture samples, but you don't want to limit you application like that
Caching is a good idea, but definitely edging closer to "illegal" status

Is there any chance this will work on the smartphone (Standard) devices? Maybe it won't be too much of a work to make it work on non-touch screen devices since you are planing to make it simple.

amaric said:
Is there any chance this will work on the smartphone (Standard) devices? Maybe it won't be too much of a work to make it work on non-touch screen devices since you are planing to make it simple.
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Well, I will probably never release a smartphone version, but the application is very modular, and it would be easy for anyone to take the Grooveshark DLL and the music player DLL and build their own GUI.

First Impressions: [ROM][2.3.2] I9000XWJV1 (GINGERBREAD) for Galaxy S

The other thread has made me increasingly mental trying to find some decent information on what is working and what isn't working for SGS users upgrading to 2.3.2. I upgraded on Sunday evening without any issues and have been using it for the past 48hrs and have come across the following:
bad:
- no sip configuration options
- when integrated with MS exchange server, the unread count for emails never changes even after you read the mail
- default internet browser is horrifically slow, even with no other apps running in the background
- no samsung apps available (probably because this isn't an official samsung release)
good:
- android market works fine for me in Switzerland
- GPS works well with all the different apps i have
- wifi is interesting. it works, but i don't get full signal strength notification even when next to the access point
- FM radio, the most used app i have continues to work nicely
Overall I have been pleasantly surprised with this version. It's nice, although it's not an official release and is still leagues better than 2.1.x and 2.2. Would get a good argument from me about how it compares with 2.2.1..

gingerbread
its only a beta the official version will be better!

sdolgy said:
- default internet browser is horrifically slow, even with no other apps running in the background
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Is this with plugins enabled or disabled (on demand)?

sdolgy said:
... wifi is interesting. it works, but i don't get full signal strength notification even when next to the access point...
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What makes the wifi interesting? Should it really be in 'Good' seeing as though you dont get full signal strength?
Thanks

felleese said:
What makes the wifi interesting? Should it really be in 'Good' seeing as though you dont get full signal strength?
Thanks
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Well, for me, I am not downloading torrents on my phone. When I want to download, via wifi, apps from the market or something with dropbox, the wifi isn't not letting me down. I think there's a disconnect between what the graphic is reporting and the actual level.
It's good because it still works and is functional and allows me to keep using this on a daily basis despite its status.

jnks123 said:
its only a beta the official version will be better!
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no doubt. not at all complaining. just wanted to document on my side what was working and not working so that i can compare in the future or maybe someone has a suggestion .. like the one about my default internet browser and plugins.
cicer0 said:
Is this with plugins enabled or disabled (on demand)?
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Plugin setting is configured to "on demand"

Swype don't work.
GPS no satellites found.
Maybe we can compile a buglist?
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well its very early to give impression but its memory hungry battery hungry proned to black outs but to be honest when the bits all run nicely its good ive been running it over 24 hours now apart from mentioned problems its smooth looking forward to updates maybeys they will change ui and give us a few of the gingerbread goodies we all wanted ie tv of --3d apps screen and so on if you go settings then about and repeatadly press on version 2.3.2 i think about ten presses see gingerbreads easter egg at least they left us that lol enjoy egg hunting

g00ndu said:
Maybe we can compile a buglist?
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Thats a good idea.. Not only might it help Samsung, but it will discourage people from running it (and later whinging).

i got it running for a few hours and i generally enjoyed it, but the keyboard has no bulgarian (well it have in the options but it does not work) and if you run out of ram you are screwed (the phone hangs or gets tooo slow ).
as said samsung apps doesn`t work and the gallery freezes very often...
i hate that samsung removed the fancy animations and the black menu bar....

There's like no gingerbread keyboard and launcher
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1-3D performance
It's not as good as it was on 2.2.1. If you test some 3D games like NFS Shift, you culd see that it doesnt run so well as it did on 2.2.1
Some people even reports that they can’t even run lot of 3D games.
2-GPS
There are reports of a good gps performance, but I have read somewhere that it's contanstly throwing some kind of errors or bugs, I don't know how to check that. I guess they know it thanks to logcat or something like that.
According to what I could read on another forum they changed lot of gps files nad not is very similar to the ones of Nexus S, that's a good thing...
3-Keyboard
It’s also a shame that they didn’t include gingerboard keyboard…
PS: Some people might think that this thread isn’t useful, but as we are being kind of betatesters for Samsung it would be nice if we use this post only to report the most common bugs founds, so maybe Samsung could have a look at it and solve it faster.

sdolgy said:
- default internet browser is horrifically slow, even with no other apps running in the background
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Try to use supercurio kernel with voodoo lagfix enabled and it should solve the problem. Works for me when I used to have same internet browser issue like you

Skyfire is working very slow, I'm unable to watch ***videos

hiraj_panosian said:
Skyfire is working very slow, I'm unable to watch ***videos
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Same here, it was so slow till i had to restart my i9000.

I've been using it for the last two days now (one of them with Supercurio's Voodoo Hack) and I've been happy with it in some parts, but quite unhappy in others.
Lag:
First of all, it seems the "Lag" that was fixed in 2.2.1 is back. Especially with memory-Hungry applications like the Browser, the phone tends to just freeze up for a few minutes without really doing much. I even had to pull the battery one time. This does happen less with the voodoo-fix, but it's still noticeable. Flash also does barely work.
Gingerbread features:
The new Gyroscope-Driver seems to work and it works really well. Skymap and Starchart both looked a LOT better when using them, no fidgeting around all the time anymore.
The new Gingerbread animations are NOT present in this rom. It seems like Samsung thinks they don't fit into TouchWiz, which is a shame. So no glowing edges when overscrolling and no screen-off or screen-on animation.
3D Performance pretty much seems to be the same as on 2.2.1 Games load a little slower, but I think that's mostly because we're using an un-optimized kernel.
The Bluetooth-Driver unfortunately still is the same as in Previous versions. So Neither Wiiremote nor PS3 will pair with the SGS, unlike on Cyanogenmod.
Samsung-Stuff:
As was stated before, Swype does not work. However, I am in the Swype beta and was able to install the Beta of Swype into this rom after deleting the normal swype with root explorer. It works fine, even Voice input does work.
All in all, it is clear that this is beta-firmware and it doesn't really offer much in terms of improvement over 2.2.1, at least not yet. Cyanogenmod 7, even tho it supports less hardware and is more unstable, runs a LOT faster and smoother than this, is more customizable and uses more of the new Gingerbread features.
For now, I'll be going back to 2.2.1, it's more useful as a daily driver, but this at least looks promising so far.

Reverting back to 2.2.1. 2.3.2 is way too slow.

Well considering this is a beta it seems alot of the features that are suppose to be in the final build are here left out. That will give the reason for quite some things missing ( some animations, effects, lock screens, keyboards....) Plus also cause of the beta build maybe even alpha who knows, the performance for me is really bad, it feels twice as laggy compared to the 2.2.1 releases. All in all this build is an striped down, not optimized build for the samsung devs i guess. We will have to wait for a better build leak. Cheers !

GGSunny12 said:
Reverting back to 2.2.1. 2.3.2 is way too slow.
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Agreed, I switched back to JS5, but for the moment I'm keeping JVE modem. It performs WAY better for me. No random UMTS-disconnects.
But as others said, it's just a beta.

sdolgy said:
FM radio, the most used app i have continues to work nicely
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Is it stereo ?

The best things about Android 3.1

I figured this needs a new thread since the others have been derailed by people trying to update!
1) Speed, finally a speedup! The lockscreen is faster, switching apps is faster, the browser is faster (scrolling/zooming/flash video/scrolling with flash video open) , the launcher is faster... I could go on and on about how fast it is now.
2) Smooth 720p flash video playback
3) Mouse support, tried it out and it works great!
4) Joystick support is cool but no apps seem to support it yet, it doesn't show up as a general input device as I had hoped, you have to specifically program for the joystick api I believe.
5) Resizable widgets! Even this operation is silky smooth
6) Scrollable app switching

does it address the wifi driver leak? better yet, documentation or release notes on this update?

Nice post. Thanks for the information. I speak for nearly everyone who at this time hasn't received the update when I say I can't wait to get my hands on 3.1 on my rooted Xoom!
I, for one, am most excited about the following: resizable widgets, mouse support (btw - what kind of mouse are you using? bluetooth or usb/wired?), and most importantly the overall speed-up and bug fixes (such as smoother 720p video playback) across the entire Android Honeycomb OS.
Kudos to Google for knocking it out of the park with this one. Maybe nothing absolutely groundbreaking or super innovative, but all we really wanted anyway was a quality level of polish added to the amazing base OS we already had. That's what we're getting with 3.1. Yay.
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sKepz said:
does it address the wifi driver leak? better yet, documentation or release notes on this update?
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There's documentation/changelog posted on the Android developer blog. Look it up. It lists every change in paragraph, essay form (instead of the usuall bullet point list associated with most changelogs).
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how do you resize the Widgets? I've been trying this for an hour.
The quick launch controls for the browser have been updated as well. Very cool. You can scroll pages using the controls without having to scroll up the page.

GorfinG said:
how do you resize the Widgets? I've been trying this for an hour.
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It only works on list widgets, like the email and bookmark widgets. Hold down on the widget like you're going to move it and then set it back down.

For those who had tested 3.1 in their Xoom's, there is a improvement in 720p & 1080p video files?
I have the Asus Transformer and wondering about that stuff, since the Xoom owners are the first receiving 3.1

Any video hardware acceleration?

dark_aura said:
For those who had tested 3.1 in their Xoom's, there is a improvement in 720p & 1080p video files?
I have the Asus Transformer and wondering about that stuff, since the Xoom owners are the first receiving 3.1
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I don't think that's any different, but I've only tried non high profile video. Still can't play .avi natively.

Thanks. Did anyone notice the Google stock movie app is no longer installed?

GorfinG said:
Thanks. Did anyone notice the Google stock movie app is no longer installed?
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I've always only had the gallery app to play movies. The movie rental program is called 'videos'
Edit: Speaking of which, the Videos app has a 'Personal Videos' tab, which shows all of your videos in a nicer display than the gallery app... nice!

sorry, meant the stock movie studio app. To edit videos. Wonder if this was changed for Google movies?

I noticed the broken shortcut for movie studio on the desktop but then opened the apps drawer and the icon there opened it right up. Take a look see if it works for you.

GorfinG said:
sorry, meant the stock movie studio app. To edit videos. Wonder if this was changed for Google movies?
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I still have that app

GorfinG said:
sorry, meant the stock movie studio app. To edit videos. Wonder if this was changed for Google movies?
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I still have that app

is portrait mode slow or is there a speed increase?
also has the auto rotate sped up?

If 720p YouTube videos are this smooth in the browser, I can't wait to get an overclock kernel on this thing!

Is there italian language in the 3.1 us rom?

uk release?
When is this hitting the uk? Mine isn't available yet.

>Is there italian language in the 3.1 us rom?
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-3.1.html (scroll to bottom)

Why I don't use cyanogenmod? Answer is here.

bump and dump. This can be deleted

Depends how u use the phone.
Most of the things you said is right.
Only thing i don't agree is wirelless signal strenght.I had very good results on cm7.
Also i think cm is not for everyday use.
Butt on miui is diferent story.
Try miui

malcho said:
Depends how u use the phone.
Most of the things you said is right.
Only thing i don't agree is wirelless signal strenght.I had very good results on cm7.
Also i think cm is not for everyday use.
Butt on miui is diferent story.
Try miui
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I`m from first miui users on sgs. Most is same.
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Do you complain about 720p recording on CM and now you use a BM kernel?
Now, seriously, I get your point, and in fact I came back to JVT because of most of the reasons that you don´t use CM.
Anyway I must say that CM team is making a great work, and they have all my respect.

I'm really enjoying using MintBerry MIUI at the minute. Wouldn't think of going back to anything else other than back to CyanogenMod.

Jesus christ.
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Most of the force close on any rom is buggy apps.
Never had any fc on system apps.
Market is buggy app from begining so it's not relevant to talk about it.
Yes i miss also good video recording butt for my need it's ok.
Video playback can be solved with good video player.
Battery life pretty much the same on every rom depends how u use it.
I'm big fan of stock roms and specialy semaphore kernel,butt sometimes you have to try something else and help people to make things better.

cabessius said:
Do you complain about 720p recording on CM and now you use a BM kernel?
Now, seriously, I get your point, and in fact I came back to JVT because of most of the reasons that you don´t use CM.
Anyway I must say that CM team is making a great work, and they have all my respect.
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I have a big respect too. They works more for sgs compared to samsung.
I don't record 720p. I'm a heavy gamer. So flashed bigmem. But if I want sgs kernel flasher is 1 click away from me. (Still I can play 720p)
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malcho said:
Most of the force close on any rom is buggy apps.
Never had any fc on system apps.
Market is buggy app from begining so it's not relevant to talk about it.
Yes i miss also good video recording butt for my need it's ok.
Video playback can be solved with good video player.
Battery life pretty much the same on every rom depends how u use it.
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I'm sure battery life is so different on stock. Video playback can be solved with dice player. But I need to pay it.
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aaron.bufc said:
I'm really enjoying using MintBerry MIUI at the minute. Wouldn't think of going back to anything else other than back to CyanogenMod.
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But you will. Always same.
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OK, do tell us now why you don't use symbian and your dislike for iOS or maybe even WP. And than tell us about why you don't use other stock.zip roms and make sure you do the same about every custom kernel as well.
What is the point of this thread? You left enough silly posts on CM thread already. Why would one care about u not using CM7.
Should we all now write posts about it?
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Sounds like you hate CM7. Although I'll just take your post as an informative reminder for people debating on whether to jump from stock to CM7.
Much like stock, CM7 isn't perfect. Whichever benefits you more, choose it. Personally, I'm a huge fan of CM7. Just keep in mind that Android is all about choices.

It's a good guess that Samsung won't update our phones to ICS, so sooner or later if you want to stay up to date you will have to use CM.

upichie said:
Sounds like you hate CM7. Although I'll just take your post as an informative reminder for people debating on whether to jump from stock to CM7.
Much like stock, CM7 isn't perfect. Whichever benefits you more, choose it. Personally, I'm a huge fan of CM7. Just keep in mind that Android is all about choices.
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No I don't hate cyanogenmod. I hate samsung because of source codes. I am a big cyanogenmod fan too. But today the status is that.
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Fremen567 said:
OK, do tell us now why you don't use symbian and your dislike for iOS or maybe even WP. And than tell us about why you don't use other stock.zip roms and make sure you do the same about every custom kernel as well.
What is the point of this thread? You left enough silly posts on CM thread already. Why would one care about u not using CM7.
Should we all now write posts about it?
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I can do this. There is no reason for don't do. (WTF is iOS?) Because I'm not a fan boy. But take a look. On CM thread the fanboys avoiding real bugs. Accelerometer sensor is not only one. Their sensors are not good too. But they says my screen turns well. WTF. How can you understand accuary of that sensors turning screen 270 degrees! I follow cyanogen by nightly 28. Now thats 18x. Main reason is samsung. I know all will be fixed on cm9. But that is that on this time.
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While i agree that the content of this thread started by being kind of useless, people may take this as reference. With that in mind i'll add my personal experience to OP's arguments. I am assuming the latest stable CM release for this which is what i use daily since it came out. Pointing out bugs or stuff failing in nightlies is totally pointless, after all.
I have to use a custom kernel. Because 3D performance is so poor on stock cm kernel.
> wouldn't know. Have around 25 games installed and had issues with none. I don't dabble very much with heavy 3D games on a phone, not a fan of the virtual analog stick. Never felt the need for a kernel change either, CM's stock does everything i need.
-Yaffs2 is so corruptable.
> i had this as not being true. Think i've seen somewhere people saying there was no trouble with this file system. According to YAFFS's website
(http://yaffs.net/yaffs-nand-specific-flash-file-system-introductory-article)
"YAFFS uses journaling, error correction and verification techniques tuned to the way NAND typically fails, to enhance robustness."
So, if it's a filesystem using journaling, it has a way of reducing a chance of data corruption like the alternatives. Not sure about other differences between FS's but i've read this is what people deem as acceptable for data loss prevention.
Also, i've yet to experience data loss.
-No TV-Out because of samsung source codes.
> indeed. If this is a must have then it's a deal breaker. Although i'm yet to see anyone around me having a SGS that would actually use it's tv-out features. Never even seen on sale the specific tvout cable this phone uses in my country.
-With stock samsung camera app we have panaroma mode. Which is a new feature of new ics. We have it since eclair.
> True story. But that's easy to overcome. Just get an app from market like photaf.
-Even no world clock or timer on aosp. We have smart alarm with stock.
> Again, loads of apps on market, just pick your poison.
-I have to flash gapps.
> You gave yourself the trouble to replace a whole system. That's far more trouble than flashing a simple package. Takes just a few seconds to do it. And most you can get from market too.
-I have to flash radio. (JVK is not good for me.)
> If your stock rom doesn't bring the one that works for you you'd have to flash it anyway. It's quite fast too as modems are really small.
-Compass is not good. And gps too.
> Yea, i've seen some people saying this as well. I downloaded "Compass" from market and tried it out in several places comparing to a real one. Didn't make much difference so i'm assuming it's working correctly. GPS is a worn out subject. never really worked for me, no matter what rom i used.
-No hardware acceleration. Browser is laggy. Flash items too.
> I'm not even sure if any rom actually used hardware acceleration for browsing. First time i've heard about doing it was ICS. I did hear people saying something about browser being laggy if it was deodexed and if some compiler (not sure) was being used. But to be honest i've never used the default browser. Always been with opera mobile (it's important being the mobile and not mini). No lag whatsoever. Flash does stutter for a micro second while loading but it does play well and lag free after that. But this is flash we're talking about, it's heavy by nature.
-There is no real hapctic feedback.
> Not sure what you mean. Settings -> Sound settings -> Haptic feedback (last setting on the bottom). Don't like it but just tried it and it works.
-Accelerometer is laggy. Because of libs.
> Another one i've seen some people saying. Works great here i can play games like abduction and labyrinth perfectly. Also downloaded "Accelerometer" from market and it seems to be working fine.
-Battery life is still not much.
> Depends on how much you use it. Lasts easily a day with a few phone calls, loads of text messages, around 4 hours/day of screen on, always with wireless on. Got home at the end of the day and still had around 40%. More than a day is unrealistic, most likely i'd just end up having enough power for half a day if i don't charge overnight. While we're at it, CM doesn't have that dealbreaking bug that can be found on stock roms that makes your phone start using battery when it gets charged to 100% causing massive battery drops when the charger is unplugged. I actually downgraded to froyo just to prevent that.
-Touchwiz calendar and clock is great. Also I like tw keyboard launcher and great sns feature.
> i'm not sure what to say here. If it's touchwiz laucher you're missing you can just download it from the applications section here in XDA. Calendar and clocks have better alternatives from market anyway and i always replace the stock sms app with handcent or GO SMS pro.
-720p video recording + playing = choppy.
> i go to lots of concerts. Always record about half of it on the best resolution the phone has. No issues. Likewise for reproducing them later. Actually, video usually comes out better on dark places than photos.
-Touch pointer can't stand fast moves. Open multitouch test and move your finger a bit fast. Pointer will come after your finger. A bit laggy.
> I used a real case instead. Opened a multitouch keyboard (gingerbread), held my left index finger on shift and my right index finger swiping on the rest of the keyboard. Wasn't laggy at all, letter preview shows up instantly as soon as i go from one letter to another.
-Wireless signal is so poor. I can't connect in my room. (I write this from my room now. Stock JVT.)
> That's just your modem though and you can replace it for whatever works best for you. CM's stock (JVK) gives me the same results as any other modem i used. Always found it a very decent range as i can pick networks from neighbors even 2 apartments away.
-Provider can't understand your phone model so you must set your apns yourself.
> Mine did. I was kind of surprised it did actually, since i'm from portugal. Didn't need to set anything up, just worked.
-I can't see some apps on market with market enabler. I can with stock.
> Not sure how to test this. Can you tell of an app you can't see so i can try it out?
-I have to flash every nightly for a reason. And all needs fix some permissions..
> You don't have to flash them every night. It is actually unadvisable to do so since they are experimental and may screw up something with your phone. Just stick with the stable and if you feel you need to update it, read reviews about what your're flashing carefully first.
-People says you don't have to calibrate battery after every nightly. But cwm uncalibrating battery as hell already.
> You may have been reading the wrong stuff. You calibrate your battery after flashing a new rom. That's it. Poor battery performance is expected after that but evens out after a few charges. And again, you don't really need to flash all those nightlies. Just think about CM as any other rom. Others don't have updates every night either, you just flash it and be done with. Just do the same with CM.
But whatever works for you. Like someone said, no one really cares about what you use, if you feel comfortable with your setup, stick with it - it's all about choice.
I just did this because someone said it would take reference from this post for future people searching for reviews and since i get very different results from yours, i felt like reporting mine in your specific bullet points.

I stopped using it for a simple reason, I kept having issues with voice calls where the other party could not hear me. That was a deal breaker, as my phone is first and foremost a work tool and I cannot afford an unreliable phone

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While i agree that the content of this thread started by being kind of useless, people may take this as reference. With that in mind i'll add my personal experience to OP's arguments. I am assuming the latest stable CM release for this which is what i use daily since it came out. Pointing out bugs or stuff failing in nightlies is totally pointless, after all.
I have to use a custom kernel. Because 3D performance is so poor on stock cm kernel.
> wouldn't know. Have around 25 games installed and had issues with none. I don't dabble very much with heavy 3D games on a phone, not a fan of the virtual analog stick. Never felt the need for a kernel change either, CM's stock does everything i need.
-Yaffs2 is so corruptable.
> i had this as not being true. Think i've seen somewhere people saying there was no trouble with this file system. According to YAFFS's website
(http://yaffs.net/yaffs-nand-specific-flash-file-system-introductory-article)
"YAFFS uses journaling, error correction and verification techniques tuned to the way NAND typically fails, to enhance robustness."
So, if it's a filesystem using journaling, it has a way of reducing a chance of data corruption like the alternatives. Not sure about other differences between FS's but i've read this is what people deem as acceptable for data loss prevention.
Also, i've yet to experience data loss.
-No TV-Out because of samsung source codes.
> indeed. If this is a must have then it's a deal breaker. Although i'm yet to see anyone around me having a SGS that would actually use it's tv-out features. Never even seen on sale the specific tvout cable this phone uses in my country.
-With stock samsung camera app we have panaroma mode. Which is a new feature of new ics. We have it since eclair.
> True story. But that's easy to overcome. Just get an app from market like photaf.
-Even no world clock or timer on aosp. We have smart alarm with stock.
> Again, loads of apps on market, just pick your poison.
-I have to flash gapps.
> You gave yourself the trouble to replace a whole system. That's far more trouble than flashing a simple package. Takes just a few seconds to do it. And most you can get from market too.
-I have to flash radio. (JVK is not good for me.)
> If your stock rom doesn't bring the one that works for you you'd have to flash it anyway. It's quite fast too as modems are really small.
-Compass is not good. And gps too.
> Yea, i've seen some people saying this as well. I downloaded "Compass" from market and tried it out in several places comparing to a real one. Didn't make much difference so i'm assuming it's working correctly. GPS is a worn out subject. never really worked for me, no matter what rom i used.
-No hardware acceleration. Browser is laggy. Flash items too.
> I'm not even sure if any rom actually used hardware acceleration for browsing. First time i've heard about doing it was ICS. I did hear people saying something about browser being laggy if it was deodexed and if some compiler (not sure) was being used. But to be honest i've never used the default browser. Always been with opera mobile (it's important being the mobile and not mini). No lag whatsoever. Flash does stutter for a micro second while loading but it does play well and lag free after that. But this is flash we're talking about, it's heavy by nature.
-There is no real hapctic feedback.
> Not sure what you mean. Settings -> Sound settings -> Haptic feedback (last setting on the bottom). Don't like it but just tried it and it works.
-Accelerometer is laggy. Because of libs.
> Another one i've seen some people saying. Works great here i can play games like abduction and labyrinth perfectly. Also downloaded "Accelerometer" from market and it seems to be working fine.
-Battery life is still not much.
> Depends on how much you use it. Lasts easily a day with a few phone calls, loads of text messages, around 4 hours/day of screen on, always with wireless on. Got home at the end of the day and still had around 40%. More than a day is unrealistic, most likely i'd just end up having enough power for half a day if i don't charge overnight. While we're at it, CM doesn't have that dealbreaking bug that can be found on stock roms that makes your phone start using battery when it gets charged to 100% causing massive battery drops when the charger is unplugged. I actually downgraded to froyo just to prevent that.
-Touchwiz calendar and clock is great. Also I like tw keyboard launcher and great sns feature.
> i'm not sure what to say here. If it's touchwiz laucher you're missing you can just download it from the applications section here in XDA. Calendar and clocks have better alternatives from market anyway and i always replace the stock sms app with handcent or GO SMS pro.
-720p video recording + playing = choppy.
> i go to lots of concerts. Always record about half of it on the best resolution the phone has. No issues. Likewise for reproducing them later. Actually, video usually comes out better on dark places than photos.
-Touch pointer can't stand fast moves. Open multitouch test and move your finger a bit fast. Pointer will come after your finger. A bit laggy.
> I used a real case instead. Opened a multitouch keyboard (gingerbread), held my left index finger on shift and my right index finger swiping on the rest of the keyboard. Wasn't laggy at all, letter preview shows up instantly as soon as i go from one letter to another.
-Wireless signal is so poor. I can't connect in my room. (I write this from my room now. Stock JVT.)
> That's just your modem though and you can replace it for whatever works best for you. CM's stock (JVK) gives me the same results as any other modem i used. Always found it a very decent range as i can pick networks from neighbors even 2 apartments away.
-Provider can't understand your phone model so you must set your apns yourself.
> Mine did. I was kind of surprised it did actually, since i'm from portugal. Didn't need to set anything up, just worked.
-I can't see some apps on market with market enabler. I can with stock.
> Not sure how to test this. Can you tell of an app you can't see so i can try it out?
-I have to flash every nightly for a reason. And all needs fix some permissions..
> You don't have to flash them every night. It is actually unadvisable to do so since they are experimental and may screw up something with your phone. Just stick with the stable and if you feel you need to update it, read reviews about what your're flashing carefully first.
-People says you don't have to calibrate battery after every nightly. But cwm uncalibrating battery as hell already.
> You may have been reading the wrong stuff. You calibrate your battery after flashing a new rom. That's it. Poor battery performance is expected after that but evens out after a few charges. And again, you don't really need to flash all those nightlies. Just think about CM as any other rom. Others don't have updates every night either, you just flash it and be done with. Just do the same with CM.
But whatever works for you. Like someone said, no one really cares about what you use, if you feel comfortable with your setup, stick with it - it's all about choice.
I just did this because someone said it would take reference from this post for future people searching for reviews and since i get very different results from yours, i felt like reporting mine in your specific bullet points.
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We have hw acceleration with touchwiz browser. Amazingly smooth flash and scrolling.
Accelerometer is not smooth like stock.
Wireless signal depends on kernel not modem. Drivers are there.
You can't even just open dungeon defenders to play. As a 3D game.
Yesterday I have 7 hours screen on with stock. 3g off I have great uv.
For market look gameloft games. Gt racing for example.
3rd party clock and calendar hooks up my small ram. And so cheap quality on market.
Where can I download TW3 for cm7? I tried one and it lags like mad. Because no hw acceleration.
Hapctic feedback is not full. Compare the solo lite app from market with stock.
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I've was on xxjvt since it was leaked and last week for some reason every time I clicked on the browser it fc all the time so installed cm7 and I can't get any happer why didn't I install cyanogen sooner phone is running alot better now then it was on xxjvt no more gray squares when scrolling down the page

burakgon said:
We have hw acceleration with touchwiz browser. Amazingly smooth flash and scrolling.
Accelerometer is not smooth like stock.
Wireless signal depends on kernel not modem. Drivers are there.
You can't even just open dungeon defenders to play. As a 3D game.
Yesterday I have 7 hours screen on with stock. 3g off I have great uv.
For market look gameloft games. Gt racing for example.
3rd party clock and calendar hooks up my small ram. And so cheap quality on market.
Where can I download TW3 for cm7? I tried one and it lags like mad. Because no hw acceleration.
Hapctic feedback is not full. Compare the solo lite app from market with stock.
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You're right about the wireless drivers being on the kernel. But as i said, CM's stock works great for me.
Not sure what you meant with those 7h of screen... I mentioned my usage, not the limit on how much would my battery last if i had the screen on all the time.
You are right about gameloft games. But there are 2 very simple solutions to that: just get it from android market's website or replace your build.prop with the one on this thread:
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/33366-gameloft-games-not-showing-in-market/
I've seen a Touchwiz 4.5 app on the app section. Not sure specifically about TW3. I used 4.5 once on some other rom and liked it very much. But still not good enough for me to change from Go luncher and all those Go widgets though.
About hardware accelerated stuff, glad you found whatever works for you, the whole point of my answer wasn't proving you wrong, just telling people that other people have experienced differently in most of those points you were complaining.

ICS Evervolv p6

Tweeted here and MD5 here. From a full wipe, I had a really smooth install.
Youtube is working great on wifi and works on 3g as long as I check "high quality on mobile" in the settings, otherwise I was getting the choppy video issues.
No changes to the cam and Flash still does not work as far as I can tell, ie. opening the flash app results in a blank page, and there is a blank space where the movie should be on Adobe's version checker page. No missing plugin icon, but its not functioning.
Still sound but no video on Netflix.

I just installed preview 5 two days ago and it's been running very smoothly thus far, only one reboot. Any significant changes you've noticed in p6 that would be worth wiping p5 for?

ph33rtehgd said:
I just installed preview 5 two days ago and it's been running very smoothly thus far, only one reboot. Any significant changes you've noticed in p6 that would be worth wiping p5 for?
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Well, you can modify what apps are shown on the lockscreen. I wish there was a changelog so you could see what was added.

Other than the baked in Exchange apk fix and the additional lock screen customization, I've not seen a great deal of difference yet. Hard to tell since they don't have changelogs for the previews. If you're happy with 5 I'd probably stick with 5 for now.
As a side note, I've had a couple of random reboots today and I had some weird issues with the launcher right after I installed Swiftkey X.
Also, really have to recommend Nova launcher. Flashed that over p6 a few hours ago and I'm loving this thing.

"Haus" said:
Other than the baked in Exchange apk fix and the additional lock screen customization, I've not seen a great deal of difference yet. Hard to tell since they don't have changelogs for the previews. If you're happy with 5 I'd probably stick with 5 for now.
As a side note, I've had a couple of random reboots today and I had some weird issues with the launcher right after I installed Swiftkey X.
Also, really have to recommend Nova launcher. Flashed that over p6 a few hours ago and I'm loving this thing.
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Yeah, loving Nova Launcher on my ICS Gnex. The ability to restore homescreens is really nice.

I guess this is a little off topic but: Anyone know why it's so difficult to get the camcorder working? I'm a complete noob when it comes to Linux but is there that much difference between GB and ICS?

grunt9800 said:
I guess this is a little off topic but: Anyone know why it's so difficult to get the camcorder working? I'm a complete noob when it comes to Linux but is there that much difference between GB and ICS?
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I'm no expert either, however I know the issue with getting the camera to work initially had to due with getting the drivers working in ICS (and there being no source for the drivers). I don't know how they got working camera drivers to begin with, but I'd only assume that the camcorder functionality needs a separate driver, or the current driver does not have camcorder support.

Whatever the source of the difficulty, a dev tweet has indicated a working camcorder in the next preview build. Glad to see progress being made, ICS has made me feel like I don't really need to spend money on an upgrade yet.

"Haus" said:
Whatever the source of the difficulty, a dev tweet has indicated a working camcorder in the next preview build. Glad to see progress being made, ICS has made me feel like I don't really need to spend money on an upgrade yet.
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Indeed. P7 is up now and it has early camcorder support. I'm sure it will improve as time goes on, but it's a start for those who need it!
"[Dinc] 2.1.0 Preview 7 - goo.gl/ijFXd - camcorder 640x480 videos(low fps & sw encoding), 1/3/12 incredikernel included
4 hours ago, Retweeted by preludedrew"

Some apps closes automatically once started n shows multiple screens like tango video call app doesn't work
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westwood937 said:
Some apps closes automatically once started n shows multiple screens like tango video call app doesn't work
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App
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Many apps haven't received ICS compatibility updates yet since there is only one phone that officially has it. It will probably be hit and miss for a while.
That said, Netflix and Flash are both ICS compatible, but don't work properly on any of the dinc roms I've tried.

Has anyone tried getting the numpad to display when using the phone? I dialed 8228 to update roaming capabilities, when the option said press 2 I could not get the numpad up to press it.

Try downloading Ex Dialer from the market and set it as default.
This is my go-to app for AOSP and faulty dialing ROMs, see if it works for you.