HI guys a question, I just received a new phone and I have rooted it, now my problem is I am wondering if I can restore my previous backups from my last phone to my newly rooted new phone?
as long as you don't restore wimax,i think you should be ok. risky nonetheless. I wouldn't. I'd also wait until others chime in.
edit: are you talking about nand backups? I've restored apps w/ data fine (not system).
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I've restored apps and data to new phones, never system data. I've never had a problem.
We're comin from a pure power source.
Therefore restoring a nanroid will contain system files so I should just reflash rom and start a new? I was hoping for a different answer but the quick responses are appreicated.
Yea don't do a nandroid to a different phone. Too many device specific files.
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So, I just rooted my Mytouch 4G a few days ago using the 'Ultimate' guide on this forum. I had root access and I disabled and deleted some stock apps from my phone. I was using LauncherPro instead of the HTC Sense launcher. I made a backup in Clockworkmod recovery immediately after installing Clockworkmod, before I'd made any major changes.
So, I spent the past few days removing and tweaking things. I had my phone working extremely well. But then I realized that I actually wanted an .apk file (the stock visual voicemail app) that I'd already deleted from the phone. It should be in my original backup file, right? So I figured that I'd make a new backup, restore my old backup containing the .apk file, copy the .apk file off of the phone, then restore my recent backup. Well...this didn't work.
When I restored either the original backup or the more recent backup, the phone would boot up and I'd get a message that the System UIDs are inconsistent. The phone would let me make phone calls, but 95% of my apps were missing from the loader. Most of the icons on my home screens were grayed out and would tell me the applications were missing when I tried to click on them.
I tried Fix Permissions in Clockworkmod recovery, but it didn't help. My Android Market app and all of my file manager apps didn't work, so I couldn't reinstall any apps. When I'd wipe all the data on my phone, but only restore the System backup, the Android Market would work and the phone basically returns to stock. But as soon as I restore my Data backup, everything breaks.
At this point, I've already wiped the phone and started over from scratch, but I'm afraid to rely on Clockworkmod/Rom Manager for backups again. Any ideas what went wrong?
did you flash a different kernel? this may be the issue, as I know that for other devices CWM does not restore the kernel.
this happens when your backups/card gets corrupted... it could of been a number of things... changing the name of something to how much you scan the card... hard to say exactly what caused it... If your really worried about it I would suggest making a backup of your backup on your computer just to be safe...
Hmm. Mine does.
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did you flash a different kernel? this may be the issue, as I know that for other devices CWM does not restore the kernel.
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I did make a backup of my backup, but it's not like these backups sat on the memory card for months before they got used. I ran the restore within minutes of when I made the last backup. Besides, aren't the backups hashed with md5 and then retested before restoring? So, if the files did get corrupted, I would think Clockworkmod would have notified me, no?
I just wish that after making a backup, there was some way to test it out without taking the chance of trashing my phone.
Regarding using a different kernel, I did not. I did not flash any experimental/downloaded images, these were simple backups and restores of my existing phone data.
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did you flash a different kernel? this may be the issue, as I know that for other devices CWM does not restore the kernel.
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This is for phones that dont support Nand like the vibrant. HTC phones is a full backup including kernel.
sundayhustler said:
I did make a backup of my backup, but it's not like these backups sat on the memory card for months before they got used. I ran the restore within minutes of when I made the last backup. Besides, aren't the backups hashed with md5 and then retested before restoring? So, if the files did get corrupted, I would think Clockworkmod would have notified me, no?
I just wish that after making a backup, there was some way to test it out without taking the chance of trashing my phone.
Regarding using a different kernel, I did not. I did not flash any experimental/downloaded images, these were simple backups and restores of my existing phone data.
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Your right, CWM does do a md5 check when restoring. I'm sorry, I don't know what could be wrong. I currently have like 5 backups of 4 ROMS and have to restored to just to play around. Did you do apps2sd? This can cause major issues when switching ROM's.
I am also having a problem restoring to my stock rom. how big does my backup file have to be?
I have had this problem before. I think in my case my issue was caused by and incompatible version of CWM. I found that to be safe, I usually make two back ups, one with recovery in 2.5.12 and one with 3.0.0.6.
It was the file. It was only 60mb, apparently I ran out of memory thanks though my other backups work fine and I found the stock rom on a thread.
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oh haha i was about to post.
I was reading FadedLite's Guide to root the Nexus 7, and one of the commentors posted that you should create a nandroid backup and bootable image after installing CWM but before adding SU. I'm not entirely sure what the purposes of these backups would be, but anyone can download the factory image from google here. So is a nandroid backup really necessary?
This is my first post on xda (although I've been here since March and have rooted 2 devices already) so I'm really hoping I posted this correctly.
I would say, and a lot of XDA users will tell ALWAYS make a backup. Although there might be factory image at Google backing up your own system is a very good idea.
Well, it's not necessary but it's always that just in case notion. I mean what about that slim chance that your USB port was not working and it suddenly stopped working properly?
I make nandroid backups only when I'm testing new ROMs and PLAN to go back to my original. I made a nandroid backup of my Galaxy S III stock ROM and then tried out jelly bean, once I was sick of it I switched back to the stock ROM because it worked obviously
I was just thinking that a backup stored locally would take up a lot of the tablet's very limited space. As long as you can boot into recovery, couldn't I just store it on another device and move the file over while in recovery? While there is a chance of usb malfunction, it is a slim chance... then again I have already perma-bricked one of my devices already, but that was an issue trying to install cwm so I couldn't have made a backup anyways.
Well, if your USB port goes, wifi or Bluetooth transfer would allow you to transfer your backup over. Unless you also don't have a bootable rom at the same time.
Nandroids are huge but it might be a good idea to have a working flashable build on internal memory at all times so you can boot up and transfer stuff.
Koush is developing a new CWR that creates TINY backups, I have no clue how he does it but he does.
unless you are running pure stock from google or a full final rom like cyanogen final, you should always have a backup.
You can download the image, but you lose ALL of your data. A nandroid backup keeps your apps and data.
A nandroid backup of ICS/JB is around 1.5-2GB in size. and yes that is a huge file size. And yes you can remove it from the device and put it back on. i STRONGLY recommend copying the entire directory and then erasing the individual files from your device so you don't forget where they're suppose to go.
If you are planning on doing custom roms or any root activity a nandroid is basically required.
Going to update to a new release? nandroid.
going to install a new theme, boot animation, metamorph? nandroid.
Are the chances small that something will go wrong? yes. But if it does, do you really want to have to redo EVERYTHING on your device?
I do a backup once a week on my galaxy nexus through clockwork mod that way i don't ever have to worry about something going wrong. restore the backup and at the most i'm back to where i was 7 days before.
Also, with USB-OTG you can connect the nexus 7 to a portable hard drive and store your backups there.
Not all flashable zips wipe the device. I actually find it very annoying when devs add wiping to their zips. I flash without wiping a lot and rarely have problems.
ok guys, i have had my ****ty 3rd gen ipod touch for a while now, and this christmas i know I'm getting a nexus 7. now i consider myself fairly good with technology. but the only realm i havnt explored is android and that starts with the nexus 7. I am planing on rooting, but keeping the stock rom. I know i can't do ota updates with root. So the only way if i wanted to update my nexus 7, would be by flashing the next stock rom via twrp. the question is will it keep ALL MY DATA (apps, media, and settings)???? if not how can i keep it?
thank you and thanks in advanced.
if the update changes the version of Android, like from 4.0 to 4.1, then a wipe is recommended. if its only a small update, like minor ROM update, and the android version stays the same (eg. cyanogenmod nightlies) then there is no need to wipe. You get to CHOOSE (and you will hear this word a lot in the world of android) to wipe your data or not with a custom recovery. just dont blame it when your apps keeps crashing after an major update.
how does keeping your data work with ota updates then, wouldn't it be just as dangerous? also i would format? then restore my data with titanium backup?(right?)
If you just unlock/root, but do not install a custom recovery, you should have no issues receiving ota's. It's the addition of a custom recovery that prevents the ota from installing. Though you may lose root, so an app like ota root save is a good idea.
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Can someone give a straight answer?
Do you lose data if you flash ROM?
For example flash the exact same ROM twice? Would data, like SMS get deleted?
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Can someone give a straight answer?
Do you lose data if you flash ROM?
For example flash the exact same ROM twice? Would data, like SMS get deleted?
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Straight answer is... no...
If you're flashing 'like-for-like'... that is to say UPGRADING a given ROM, then generally, you just 'dirty-flash' over the top.
If your're changing ROM completely, then a full SYSTEM WIPE is probably recommended.
Rgrds,
Ged.
Usually if you already did the unlock and recovery process (usually a one time thing in the beginning), then you mainly just have to understand the 3 main partitions you're dealing with on rom flashing from recovery.
/system = this is where the system/OS files live, and where for the most part the roms install to
/data = this is where the usual user data lives, since the /system rarely changes, stuff like settings, downloaded applications, etc is stored here. Rom installs rarely ever wipe this, and normally it does not need to be wiped if you're upgrading from one rom to the next (such as going from SlimBean 6.0 to 6.2, same type of rom just an upgrade). If of course they are different roms a /data and /system (and cache/dalvik-cache) wipe is recommended before flashing the rom.
/data/media (if I got that right) = sort of the "media" area of the device where you will store most of your stuff like downloads, music, pictures, etc. In recovery, wiping /data will usually not touch this, it's just like the /sdcard partition on older phones.
When trying out a new rom, it is always best to backup via recovery, the backups are stored in that media area I spoke of, and it's also advised to copy them onto a computer when you get a chance. The Nexus 7 and TWRP Recovery supports USB-OTG so you could plug up a thumbdrive and save the backup there directly. If you run into problems, you can always go into recovery, wipe everything and restore from a backup.
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By the way forgot to mention, even if you're just flashing an upgrade, it's still idea to wipe the cache/dalvik-cache (it won't affect your data, but new binaries should be reloaded by erasing the cache so they can be re-built).
Thanks guys. My phone was stuck in boot loop and I had to flash the stock ROM again and again and again until I got it working.
I lost several messages, that is what I expected.
However, before I torched and burned the phone with ROMs, I backed up the device (or whatever I was backing up, I dont know) with CWM backup.
Is there a way I can get those SMS messages out of this backup?
sirNemanjapro said:
Thanks guys. My phone was stuck in boot loop and I had to flash the stock ROM again and again and again until I got it working.
I lost several messages, that is what I expected.
However, before I torched and burned the phone with ROMs, I backed up the device (or whatever I was backing up, I dont know) with CWM backup.
Is there a way I can get those SMS messages out of this backup?
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If you have the PRO (paid-for) version of Titanium, there is a way you can extract stuff from Nandroid backups... but I don't have a 'Tilapia' Nexus 7 to test. (with regard to your SMS problem).
Just running it (Extract from Nandroid backup in Titanium PRO) on my 'Grouper' Nexus 7, and I can see all my apps (and associated data) in my last Nandroid available for individual extraction and restore.
Rgrds,
Ged.
It was a stock ROM, nothing out of the ordinary. I mean, there was a different kernel, I've put root kernel. So, if there is option to get it from stock system, that would be nice.
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It was a stock ROM, nothing out of the ordinary.
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And?... your point is?
Please elaborate.
Rgrds,
Ged.
I have a 32GB N7 that I share with my girlfriend. I quickly learned that if I flash a new ROM, that whole other user's info is gone.
After trying to restore apps and info using both Titanium and ROM Toolbox, I couldn't get it to function like it was before.
I tried to restore to a backup I made prior to doing this and it won't get past the boot screen. I can safely assume that whole other user account is gone. The question is, how can I bring that from one ROM to another? Or how can I restore back to a previous ROM that had it setup?
engagedtosmile said:
I have a 32GB N7 that I share with my girlfriend. I quickly learned that if I flash a new ROM, that whole other user's info is gone.
After trying to restore apps and info using both Titanium and ROM Toolbox, I couldn't get it to function like it was before.
I tried to restore to a backup I made prior to doing this and it won't get past the boot screen. I can safely assume that whole other user account is gone. The question is, how can I bring that from one ROM to another? Or how can I restore back to a previous ROM that had it setup?
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I could be wrong about this as I am very new to serious mucking around in Android but...
Were ROMs you were using previously based on 4.1.x or older? I know that it is only a very recent version of Android that has proper multi-user support (4.2.2 has it for instance.. I'm not sure about 4.2.1 etc..) and thus now places a "0" folder in which the main user's data is saved, and then there will be "10', "11" etc.. for subsequent users. I'm not sure if your data is gone or not depending on your exact situation, but there are issues that can come from trying to get recovery/data from "pre-MultiUser" and "post-MultiUser" ROMs. Sometimes you may be able to manually move or stipulate where you want to recover from etc... others, it may be gone. There was a post about this from TeamWin and their TeamWinRecoveryProject that explains a bit more of it... http://teamw.in/DataMedia
Not sure if this is helpful, but it is worthwhile to look into regarding multi-user Android.
I am having same problem as OP. I share the N7 with my wife and when I flashed ROM I wasnt able to restore any of her data through Titanium, but it would let me restore everything that was on my main user account. Had to switch back to stock rom nandroid, and her data was still gone and mine was all intact. Now she won't let me put a custom rom on If anyone has any suggestions/fixes I'd really appreciate it. Thanks!
ProbyWaN said:
I am having same problem as OP. I share the N7 with my wife and when I flashed ROM I wasnt able to restore any of her data through Titanium, but it would let me restore everything that was on my main user account. Had to switch back to stock rom nandroid, and her data was still gone and mine was all intact. Now she won't let me put a custom rom on If anyone has any suggestions/fixes I'd really appreciate it. Thanks!
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Probably had to have titanium on both accounts, then created the account after ROM flash and titanium restore on both accounts sperately
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Lots of ppls here lost their efs, imei etc.. Or getting bootloop or can't make phone call wifi not working after flash a new rom or tried to do nandroid restore.....
Good news are we have so many hard working devs come up solutions to repair those problems.
But for a newbie like myself. I am waiting or looking for a ultimate backup method that has been proven working.... So I don't have to worry about flashing my phone. (I am flasholic Hahaha...) Is there one already? Or is there gonna be one soon?
Sorry for my childish English.
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h3nyr said:
Lots of ppls here lost their efs, imei etc.. Or getting bootloop or can't make phone call wifi not working after flash a new rom or tried to do nandroid restore.....
Good news are we have so many hard working devs come up solutions to repair those problems.
But for a newbie like myself. I am waiting or looking for a ultimate backup method that has been proven working.... So I don't have to worry about flashing my phone. (I am flasholic Hahaha...) Is there one already? Or is there gonna be one soon?
Sorry for my childish English.
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Backing up your EFS is probably the biggest one, however I backed mine up and bootlooped and couldn't restore it so had to use this efs fix anyway.. So short answer, not really, Samsung phones are not mod friendly anymore, or as mod friendly as they once were.
Helium is a good choice for non-root backup and TB for root or a recovery back up (CWM offers custom backup)
Just the thread I was looking for. I'm looking for a WORKING backup solution for my rooted Note 3 but none seems to work.
I have seriously tried at least 7 different backup/restore apps (haven't tried TB as it just comes off as too much for my taste; haven't even downloaded it) and each of them have had their own issues. In the end I could never get my apps backed up to begin with, much less to attempt a restore.
Last one tried was Helium; I go through the backup process and I have no idea if the backup jobs were done. I see a black screen which eventually disappears and that's it. (this is basically the case for all the apps I've tried to run) Nonetheless I went to try and restore from Google Drive which I connected the Helium app to and I get the error "an error occurred while retrieving your app list". No backed up apps are displayed...
Is it something I am missing? Can anyone suggest a backup app besides TB that actually works, please. All I need is the Apps + AppData backed up to either Google Drive or Dropbox.
Much thanks to anyone who can help.
I use Helium and it seems to work ok but a LOT of people seem to have issues with it.
G-Cloud also works well and it saved me a lot of work when I had to do a factory reset when trying to fix the corrupted EFS partition.
Backing up the EFS seems to be less important on the Note3, once it's reformatted using the fix here it seems to sort itself out afterwards by rebuilding the info from the underlying hardware. Restoring the EFS when it breaks won't fix the problem as it's the partition itself that's damaged, not the EFS data within it.
And of course, Titanium Backup is still the king IMO.