Is there a bullet proof backup solution for our note 3? - Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Lots of ppls here lost their efs, imei etc.. Or getting bootloop or can't make phone call wifi not working after flash a new rom or tried to do nandroid restore.....
Good news are we have so many hard working devs come up solutions to repair those problems.
But for a newbie like myself. I am waiting or looking for a ultimate backup method that has been proven working.... So I don't have to worry about flashing my phone. (I am flasholic Hahaha...) Is there one already? Or is there gonna be one soon?
Sorry for my childish English.
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h3nyr said:
Lots of ppls here lost their efs, imei etc.. Or getting bootloop or can't make phone call wifi not working after flash a new rom or tried to do nandroid restore.....
Good news are we have so many hard working devs come up solutions to repair those problems.
But for a newbie like myself. I am waiting or looking for a ultimate backup method that has been proven working.... So I don't have to worry about flashing my phone. (I am flasholic Hahaha...) Is there one already? Or is there gonna be one soon?
Sorry for my childish English.
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Backing up your EFS is probably the biggest one, however I backed mine up and bootlooped and couldn't restore it so had to use this efs fix anyway.. So short answer, not really, Samsung phones are not mod friendly anymore, or as mod friendly as they once were.
Helium is a good choice for non-root backup and TB for root or a recovery back up (CWM offers custom backup)

Just the thread I was looking for. I'm looking for a WORKING backup solution for my rooted Note 3 but none seems to work.
I have seriously tried at least 7 different backup/restore apps (haven't tried TB as it just comes off as too much for my taste; haven't even downloaded it) and each of them have had their own issues. In the end I could never get my apps backed up to begin with, much less to attempt a restore.
Last one tried was Helium; I go through the backup process and I have no idea if the backup jobs were done. I see a black screen which eventually disappears and that's it. (this is basically the case for all the apps I've tried to run) Nonetheless I went to try and restore from Google Drive which I connected the Helium app to and I get the error "an error occurred while retrieving your app list". No backed up apps are displayed...
Is it something I am missing? Can anyone suggest a backup app besides TB that actually works, please. All I need is the Apps + AppData backed up to either Google Drive or Dropbox.
Much thanks to anyone who can help.

I use Helium and it seems to work ok but a LOT of people seem to have issues with it.
G-Cloud also works well and it saved me a lot of work when I had to do a factory reset when trying to fix the corrupted EFS partition.
Backing up the EFS seems to be less important on the Note3, once it's reformatted using the fix here it seems to sort itself out afterwards by rebuilding the info from the underlying hardware. Restoring the EFS when it breaks won't fix the problem as it's the partition itself that's damaged, not the EFS data within it.
And of course, Titanium Backup is still the king IMO.

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Why are my Clockworkmod backups unusable?

So, I just rooted my Mytouch 4G a few days ago using the 'Ultimate' guide on this forum. I had root access and I disabled and deleted some stock apps from my phone. I was using LauncherPro instead of the HTC Sense launcher. I made a backup in Clockworkmod recovery immediately after installing Clockworkmod, before I'd made any major changes.
So, I spent the past few days removing and tweaking things. I had my phone working extremely well. But then I realized that I actually wanted an .apk file (the stock visual voicemail app) that I'd already deleted from the phone. It should be in my original backup file, right? So I figured that I'd make a new backup, restore my old backup containing the .apk file, copy the .apk file off of the phone, then restore my recent backup. Well...this didn't work.
When I restored either the original backup or the more recent backup, the phone would boot up and I'd get a message that the System UIDs are inconsistent. The phone would let me make phone calls, but 95% of my apps were missing from the loader. Most of the icons on my home screens were grayed out and would tell me the applications were missing when I tried to click on them.
I tried Fix Permissions in Clockworkmod recovery, but it didn't help. My Android Market app and all of my file manager apps didn't work, so I couldn't reinstall any apps. When I'd wipe all the data on my phone, but only restore the System backup, the Android Market would work and the phone basically returns to stock. But as soon as I restore my Data backup, everything breaks.
At this point, I've already wiped the phone and started over from scratch, but I'm afraid to rely on Clockworkmod/Rom Manager for backups again. Any ideas what went wrong?
did you flash a different kernel? this may be the issue, as I know that for other devices CWM does not restore the kernel.
this happens when your backups/card gets corrupted... it could of been a number of things... changing the name of something to how much you scan the card... hard to say exactly what caused it... If your really worried about it I would suggest making a backup of your backup on your computer just to be safe...
Hmm. Mine does.
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did you flash a different kernel? this may be the issue, as I know that for other devices CWM does not restore the kernel.
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I did make a backup of my backup, but it's not like these backups sat on the memory card for months before they got used. I ran the restore within minutes of when I made the last backup. Besides, aren't the backups hashed with md5 and then retested before restoring? So, if the files did get corrupted, I would think Clockworkmod would have notified me, no?
I just wish that after making a backup, there was some way to test it out without taking the chance of trashing my phone.
Regarding using a different kernel, I did not. I did not flash any experimental/downloaded images, these were simple backups and restores of my existing phone data.
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did you flash a different kernel? this may be the issue, as I know that for other devices CWM does not restore the kernel.
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This is for phones that dont support Nand like the vibrant. HTC phones is a full backup including kernel.
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I did make a backup of my backup, but it's not like these backups sat on the memory card for months before they got used. I ran the restore within minutes of when I made the last backup. Besides, aren't the backups hashed with md5 and then retested before restoring? So, if the files did get corrupted, I would think Clockworkmod would have notified me, no?
I just wish that after making a backup, there was some way to test it out without taking the chance of trashing my phone.
Regarding using a different kernel, I did not. I did not flash any experimental/downloaded images, these were simple backups and restores of my existing phone data.
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Your right, CWM does do a md5 check when restoring. I'm sorry, I don't know what could be wrong. I currently have like 5 backups of 4 ROMS and have to restored to just to play around. Did you do apps2sd? This can cause major issues when switching ROM's.
I am also having a problem restoring to my stock rom. how big does my backup file have to be?
I have had this problem before. I think in my case my issue was caused by and incompatible version of CWM. I found that to be safe, I usually make two back ups, one with recovery in 2.5.12 and one with 3.0.0.6.
It was the file. It was only 60mb, apparently I ran out of memory thanks though my other backups work fine and I found the stock rom on a thread.
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Corrupt Nandroid Backup

I ran a custom ROM today (10-13-2011) and wasn't completely satisfied, so I tried to flash back to my last working nandroid backup that I had created earlier this morning. Unfortunately, it got stuck while loading one particular file. After several battery pulls and several attempts at installation I ended up flashing a nandroid I had created 4 days ago (10-08-2011). This flash was successful which indicates to me that clockworkmod rom manager must have created a corrupt nandroid when I made one this morning. This is a bit disturbing to me bc I have OCD and now I'll be wondering if the nandroid backups I make from here on out are jacked up. Do you guys know why this may have happened? Or do you know a way to tell whether or not a nandroid is corrupt (before trying to flash it)? Should I be concerned with any of this at all?
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Don't know why this happens, but it has happened a few times to me
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It doesn't happen to you every time does it?
How long was it stick on a certain file? Mine sometimes seems to get hung up, but will continue after a minute or two...
It was hung up on that one file for like 5-10 minutes. When I flashed the older backup I didn't have that issue though.
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Update: About a week ago I had this same issue again. I made another nandroid backup, tried to flash it, and discovered it was corrupted and had to (yet again) flash back to that backup I made on 10-08-2011. Today (10-31-2011) I tried to make a backup and it actually successfully flashed after install. I was happy to see that happen....however I'm still disturbed by the inconsistancy I'm now experiencing with Clockwork Mod ROM Manager. Do you guys have any explaination for why I may be having these inconsistent issues?
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I'm just like you with the OCD about this...but I've luckily never had it happen to me.
I'm probably wrong on this, but it seems to me that these issues mostly started sprouting up on the 5.0.2.0(that's right, isn't it?) build.
What I've always done since hearing about this the first time is create a backup...and then restore the backup without even leaving cwm.
That way if MD5's don't match...(hopefully just that) I know it right away.
And if it fails on a single file...I can hope that it isn't a crucial file and my phone will still boot.
It gives me a little blanket of trust in my nandroid, at least.
I too must report many recent problems with nandroid backups (using CWM 5.0.2).
I take a full backup every week or so, as well as before doing something like changing a ROM. A couple of the backups are stored on my SD card, but the rest I push up to my NAS via FTP (to keep a longer history).
Yesterday I went to go back to a point in time only to find out that the backup didn't work (failed MD5 checksum). I managed to get a recent backup restored, but it had something broken in it, so I opted for a fully working backup. I ended up going through ALL of the nandroid backups that I've taken since getting my phone, and none of them work anymore!!! (even the broken one that did manage to restore once yesterday).
This is super weird, as I know that some of these backups were good as I have already restored them successfully!
I can't help but wonder if my file transfer method is playing a role here. First I was using FTP over WiFi, but then I switched to USB cable to PC as Flash drive -> NAS via wired Ethernet.
Whatever is going on here... it is really a serious problem. If you can't count on a full system backup like this, then there is really no point to it.
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[Q] Smooth Rom 4.4

Hi
As you've prob guessed I'm a noob, hence the help.
Ive just recently rooted and unlocked my nexus 7 with wugfresh 1.6.2 and am now looking at putting a custom rom on it.
Ive followed the advice and put titanium backup on and backed up my apps and system data.
Having read the instructions for installing Smooth Rom 4.4, it states 'Please do not restore a 'system' data backup as it would overwritte some important files'
does this mean I cannot restore my apps from titanium backup as I cant restore system data as they where backed up together or is there some other way for me to do it ?
does titanium backup get wiped as well ?
All Help appreciated, this is my first rom install and I dont wanna **** it up.
Robbie_UK said:
All Help appreciated, this is my first rom install and I dont wanna **** it up.
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The most important thing to do is to make a FULL nandroid backup before you begin.
The 2nd most important thing to do is to get that backup copied someplace else besides the tablet. (PC, USB key, etc) Screw-ups involving accidental erasure of the psuedo- SD card area on the tablet are commonplace with folks that are new to this. It won't do you any good to make a backup if you immediately erase it while fooling around with a custom recovery (or toolkit) that is new to you.
I suggest you learn to make backups using the custom recovery rather than relying on a toolkit.
If you are happy with the tablet in it's current configuration, then a back-up allows you to survive any ****-ups that inevitably follow as you can return back to a known state and proceed again having learned from your mistakes.
FULL NANDROID BACKUPS. COPIED SOMEPLACE SAFE (OFF THE TABLET)
As for TiB, the only thing that is 100% safe is to only restore apps & their data that are NOT pre-installed in whatever ROM you are installing. Note this means not restoring any of the Google gapps as well, as you may have had a different versions of those apps running on your current ROM than on the to-be-installed ROM, whether pre-installed or updated later.
Yeah it's a bit of work restoring apps one by one and re-configuring things. There probably are System apps that can have their data safely restored to the wrong version of the app - but there are absolutely no guarantees that correct operation of the app will follow that.
cheers and good luck

[Q] Backing Up Multi Users

Hello. Has anyone found a way to do this yet? I found a couple threads that dated a couple months ago with the same question but no answer. So if anyone has figured out a way to backup the apps and data on both a primary and secondary user account please help. Im pretty sure others are interested as well. I really want to try out some different roms but my brother will be really mad if I lose all his data again . Last time i backed the tablet up with wugfreshs toolkit thinking itd back up everything and when i found out it didnt after restoring i was screwed lol. Is there a way to pick what you want to restore with twrp? I know for my phone in cwm you can do an advanced restore and restore just certain things like apps and data. Is that possible for nexus 10?
I have the same problem kind of.
Have not tested but if you make nandroid backup in twrp on at least the data partition you should get all user data in the backup, right?
I however would like to make selected app backup in titanium where i could choose to include data for all or just single user. Not sure if possible.
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Johan1976 said:
I have the same problem kind of.
Have not tested but if you make nandroid backup in twrp on at least the data partition you should get all user data in the backup, right?
I however would like to make selected app backup in titanium where i could choose to include data for all or just single user. Not sure if possible.
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Yes with tarp it backs up all user data. But like you I also want to backup certain apps with titanium. I hope they add this feature soon because I like changing Roms to see my favorite. I'm about to flash paranoid android and I did a full backup first. If my bro gets mad I'll just restore the backup so he can have his stuff back
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Well i tried installing paranoid android. Then booted fine then i restored data via twrp and it wont boot i guess that doesnt work. Any other suggestions fir backing up multi accounts?
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If anyone is interested go into super su and enable multiusers so now you have root on all accounts then just back up apps on each account with titanium backup and move then to pc (just in case) then you can flash any rom you want and restore the apps. Hurray . Its not as smooth as id like becaise wiping data wipes new accounts so you have to readd them but just back up all pics to google plus and anything else to cpu. Your apps and data from titanium backup will be backed up and now you have everything saved. So if anyone needs this it works. Took me a while to finally figure out a way with lots of nandroid restoring but now i.got it
Time to flash some roms till i find a favorite
As u can see im very happy
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Johan1976 said:
I have the same problem kind of.
Have not tested but if you make nandroid backup in twrp on at least the data partition you should get all user data in the backup, right?
I however would like to make selected app backup in titanium where i could choose to include data for all or just single user. Not sure if possible.
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I found a solution that should help.look at my previous post
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abdel12345 said:
If anyone is interested go into super su and enable multiusers so now you have root on all accounts then just back up apps on each account with titanium backup and move then to pc (just in case) then you can flash any rom you want and restore the apps. Hurray . Its not as smooth as id like becaise wiping data wipes new accounts so you have to readd them but just back up all pics to google plus and anything else to cpu. Your apps and data from titanium backup will be backed up and now you have everything saved. So if anyone needs this it works. Took me a while to finally figure out a way with lots of nandroid restoring but now i.got it
Time to flash some roms till i find a favorite
As u can see im very happy
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I am trying to do the same as you! The way you described doing it, I think you are just using Titanium backup app and not nandroid backups in the end, is that right? So you used Titanium backup all your apps and their data (but not photos/other documents/files on your tablet), and then you flashed your new custom ROM and used Titanium again to restore all apps/data in each user account separately? Sounds straightforward if I have this right! I have not done this before, so want to understand it before I do!! Thanks for your help... :good:
glastolover27 said:
I am trying to do the same as you! The way you described doing it, I think you are just using Titanium backup app and not nandroid backups in the end, is that right? So you used Titanium backup all your apps and their data (but not photos/other documents/files on your tablet), and then you flashed your new custom ROM and used Titanium again to restore all apps/data in each user account separately? Sounds straightforward if I have this right! I have not done this before, so want to understand it before I do!! Thanks for your help... :good:
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It's kind of annoying but it works. You have to back up the apps in each account then move it to a computer then back up the next account and move it to computer then back up the next etc... You have to do this because it erases the secondary accounts when flashing a new ROM so you lose all the backups you made. So putting it on a CPU then moving it back after the flash will make sure you have them
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abdel12345 said:
It's kind of annoying but it works. You have to back up the apps in each account then move it to a computer then back up the next account and move it to computer then back up the next etc... You have to do this because it erases the secondary accounts when flashing a new ROM so you lose all the backups you made. So putting it on a CPU then moving it back after the flash will make sure you have them
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OK, thanks, sounds like I had described the right technique... will give it a try!

Why Has Titanium Become Failboat

I just don't get this. I have used Titanium Pro for years, but on the newest phones it seems to be a bit of a CLUSTERF* and it is getting really damned annoying.
Oh sure, I try the inactive/interactive settings change, but the same crap. Never had to mess with it in the past.
Has Titanium lost their mojo as the premium android backup solution? Is there something new that actually works reliably on Current phones? ARGH
My experiences are with both SuperSU and Superuser.
Barsky said:
I just don't get this. I have used Titanium Pro for years, but on the newest phones it seems to be a bit of a CLUSTERF* and it is getting really damned annoying.
Oh sure, I try the inactive/interactive settings change, but the same crap. Never had to mess with it in the past.
Has Titanium lost their mojo as the premium android backup solution? Is there something new that actually works reliably on Current phones? ARGH
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Could you be more specific? It works great for me.
Oh, and this is not development...
Support your Devs......
It is still the best Android backup solution
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I still use it with no problems.
I've noticed no changes, works fantastic for me. Been using pro before it was on the market.
Same here, using it fine on stock rom with cwm recovery and root.
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Could you be more specific? It works great for me.
Oh, and this is not development...
Support your Devs......
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The well documented freezing on restores. I honestly love this app. Don't get me wrong. I was venting a bit. But the first time I've encountered this was on my htc one and now this G2. Not sure why. Since I only got it today, I decided to Factory Restore it and will go from there.
If I offended anyone, please don't be. It was not my intention.
Barsky said:
The well documented freezing on restores. I honestly love this app. Don't get me wrong. I was venting a bit. But the first time I've encountered this was on my htc one and now this G2. Not sure why. Since I only got it today, I decided to Factory Restore it and will go from there.
If I offended anyone, please don't be. It was not my intention.
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The only time I have had this issue was when I was restoring a 4.2+ feature on a 4.1 ROM (ie Lockscreen widget on Note 2).
I even back everything up from each phone to Dropbox and restore apps with data on a different device. I expected issues with this but was pleasantly surprised.
And I highly doubt you offended anyone I was just curious what issues you were having.
Hope you get it sorted out!
Support your Devs......
Never had a problem with Titanium
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iOSh8er said:
The only time I have had this issue was when I was restoring a 4.2+ feature on a 4.1 ROM (ie Lockscreen widget on Note 2).
I even back everything up from each phone to Dropbox and restore apps with data on a different device. I expected issues with this but was pleasantly surprised.
And I highly doubt you offended anyone I was just curious what issues you were having.
Hope you get it sorted out!
Support your Devs......
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You sir, might just be a genius This backup was done on the same version of titanium, but it was from a backup done on my previous htc one running a 4.3 rom. that has to be it.
*Kicks self in butt, repeatidly*. Thank you!!
Never had the freeze on restore issue. But it would be annoying if it were a regular problem. I think Joel has done a good job though keeping up with all the changes that Android throws out there. It's a tough row to sow to have an app of that magnitude working all the time on every make, model and OS version.
Worked flawlessly migrating from a DNA to the G2. It's you.
heh. I can't even get it into download mode. I think the problem is I used a "install twrp without root" from the forums here. it seemed to fail. Looking closer it appears to change the kernel stupid me didn't notice first. Looking to restore phone to factory default. Downloading now
Ended up having to have Titanium create an update.zip of my apps. restored via recovery. Odd. Trying Cleanrom today and will see how that goes.
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heh. I can't even get it into download mode. I think the problem is I used a "install twrp without root" from the forums here. it seemed to fail. Looking closer it appears to change the kernel stupid me didn't notice first. Looking to restore phone to factory default. Downloading now
Ended up having to have Titanium create an update.zip of my apps. restored via recovery. Odd. Trying Cleanrom today and will see how that goes.
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OK, so the problem did seem to due to the backup being created from a 4.3 rom on htc one. After installing the apps using the created update.zip, I then deleted all titanium backups and did a new one from the G2. I then did a factory reset, reinstalled Titanium and then restored without issue. Happy Happy Joy Joy.
Thanks guys.
are you restoring data? restoring data from one version of android to another, or one phone to another especially a diff version, will always give you a problem.
i don't even use titanium to restore apps when i get a new phone..i'd rather my new phone start off clean and build it's own data to backup.
jayochs said:
are you restoring data? restoring data from one version of android to another, or one phone to another especially a diff version, will always give you a problem.
i don't even use titanium to restore apps when i get a new phone..i'd rather my new phone start off clean and build it's own data to backup.
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only downloaded app data, never system. Also, solved.

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