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Hi, the reasons I've bought the Kindle Fire was that I wanted a cheap tablet on one hand (whilst it's quite capable HW-wise) and it's ability to be customized (it's capacity to have 3rd party roms on it, etc) on the other. On that second point I'm sure that the community will work its magic in the coming months: my dilemma however is with what I should do with the Fire I *currently* have...
I've received it a couple of days ago and I found out that the vanilla ROM seems quite alright on in itself. It seems limited, but as long as one roots and installs the Market (almost) the whole of Android force is unleashed. The UI is not always functional but it does feel as a breath of fresh air in a landscape which is tatterered with clones of the same thing (Google's UI)...
Anyhow the purpose of this thread -as the topic title states- is to weigh whether the installation of CM7 on KF is a justifiable move (given what we have at hand) for everyday use. I do own other android devices as well and installing CM flavours there was -often- an easy move given the benefits (more hardware capabilities, cleaner/faster UI, etc).
But on KF things seem to be less clear cut. For one CM7 doesn't seem to do more than what the stock rom already achieves in either the hardware side of things (no new "function" is enabled) *or* the software side (the lag is still there, and Amazon has/had already done an admirable job to keep her device working without the need of any physical buttons).
So my question is to those who already made the move to CM7 for daily usage. Was it worth it for any non experimental purposes? Were there any discernable benefits compared to stock? (I mean considering how the situation is right *now*, not how things *can* be).
Thanks for your attention and sorry for the length of this post, it's only that this is the first time that I find myself in front of such a dilemma. Before KF I would often install CM on my device no questions asked, but now things seem less clear cut. Your opinions will be valued - again, thank you.
For everyday use i find CM7 more useful simply because the Fire launcher is convoluted. Nothing you cant achieve with a launcher, however launchers tend make pior use of the sceeen real estate. Also no need to worry aboit the root removing OTA updates.
The only downside i have with CM7 right now is the lacl of volume softkeys
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For everyday use i find CM7 more useful simply because the Fire launcher is convoluted. Nothing you cant achieve with a launcher, however launchers tend make pior use of the sceeen real estate. Also no need to worry aboit the root removing OTA updates.
The only downside i have with CM7 right now is the lacl of volume softkeys
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Hmm, but how can a mere launcher be the whole reason to change a Rom? Why can't -one- siimply install one from the market?
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Also no need to worry aboit the root removing OTA updates.
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IMHO, this is the main reason to install CM7.
The Anthem said:
The only downside i have with CM7 right now is the lacl of volume softkeys
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There is workaround for this, I do not remember, but somewhere in the forum
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IMHO, this is the main reason to install CM7.
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The only reason I haven't tried CM7 is that I have had Amazon Prime for a long time and like to use Amazon's services.
Originally Posted by The Anthem
The only downside i have with CM7 right now is the lacl of volume softkeys
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There is workaround for this, I do not remember, but somewhere in the forum
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"Volume Control" from the Android Market is great - it puts a volume slider that auto-hides on the edge of the screen.
Pros: It does everything the kindle does at stock and then more (If you want to use emulators and games, I would recommend it).
Cons: It is hard to set up the stock amazon apps on CM7, although possible. There is also a small chance of bricking your device if you do everything totally wrong and for some reason (like not following directions) cannot unbrick using the known methods.
The main difference for me has been that I can use different PDF software to read PDFs more clearly and that I can play emulators on it.
A con for cm7 right now is the CPU constantly being at 1008mhz when wifi is on...at least for me. I tried the mac address fix but it didn't work.
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For me I feel CM7 gives you that tablet feel more so than the Amazon UI. Having customization is always one of the main things I look for. I do have Amazon Prime however I hardly use any of their services besides the shipping. (Netflix > Amazon Instant Video)
Also if you do everything right and make a back up of your stock, you can always revert back to it if you don't like what you see.
The browser is smother on cm7 silk loads a bit faster, but the scrolling feels smoother on cm7, also in stock firmware when you go full screen you cant get rid of the gray bar, on cm you can hide it and show it as much as you want.
How ever... i feel that battery life is a bit shorter, but not much, I don't know if anyone else has that feeling.
there are no cons to CM7. ITS THE GREATEST software. I just got finished with ice cream sammich and that is boring as heck. Flashing back to CM7 and leaving my Vision in the ice cream.
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there are no cons to CM7. ITS THE GREATEST software. I just got finished with ice cream sammich and that is boring as heck. Flashing back to CM7 and leaving my Vision in the ice cream.
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You've got to be kidding me...
Winglerw28 said:
Pros: It does everything the kindle does at stock and then more (If you want to use emulators and games, I would recommend it).
Cons: It is hard to set up the stock amazon apps on CM7, although possible. There is also a small chance of bricking your device if you do everything totally wrong and for some reason (like not following directions) cannot unbrick using the known methods.
The main difference for me has been that I can use different PDF software to read PDFs more clearly and that I can play emulators on it.
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Yea I got chrono cross working so its been great. I agree with the pdfs as well studying for some it certs so its been really helpful.
androidcues said:
there are no cons to CM7. ITS THE GREATEST software. I just got finished with ice cream sammich and that is boring as heck. Flashing back to CM7 and leaving my Vision in the ice cream.
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... this is your brain on drugs.
GBH2 said:
"Volume Control" from the Android Market is great - it puts a volume slider that auto-hides on the edge of the screen.
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Which volume control, there are seven of them?
THX
cuban11182 said:
Which volume control, there are seven of them?
THX
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https://market.android.com/details?id=rubberbigpepper.VolumeControl
imo this should be included with the rom
I am running CM7 as a daily ROM at the moment, and I can say that it is much better than the Amazon stock ROM. When running stock you have to worry about OTA updates that can potentially remove root access and prevent it from being acquired again (until a workaround is found). Also, for me at least, CM7 seems to run much better than the stock ROM did, with little to no lag.
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The only reason I haven't tried CM7 is that I have had Amazon Prime for a long time and like to use Amazon's services.
"Volume Control" from the Android Market is great - it puts a volume slider that auto-hides on the edge of the screen.
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Even if you have Amazon Prime you can use Amazon services still. You just have to download the apps onto CM7. I have done this, but I forgot where I got the apk files.
A couple more notes on CM7 v Stock
I no longer have the issue where the Fire wont wake and I have to hold power for a reboot.
Inputs seem more responsive, I no longer have to press things multiple times or them to work, mainly back button was problematic.
Much greater app compatibility in the Marketplace.
Also, thanks for he volume control, just what I needed.
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Even if you have Amazon Prime you can use Amazon services still. You just have to download the apps onto CM7. I have done this, but I forgot where I got the apk files.
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Interesting. I may have been misinformed. I have Amazon Prime, have for years. I realize that I can still install the Kindle app and other Amazon apps, but can I still receive Amazon Prime free Streaming videos and free Kindle owners lending library, etc. if I switch over to CM7?
I rooted just the other day, I run cm7 on all my other devices, I do not have interest in it beyond the app swap option and swipe lock screen. The stock build + market is all I need at this point. When cm7 develops into a fully stable option I will certainly switch but for now I don't reccomend it.
Well, I used to have a Nook Simple touch until it was stepped on, so I'm getting a Color. Before I get it though, I'm just have a few questions.
1. For rooting this thing, how complicated is it? It's not so much it being too complex, it's more of do you have to re-partition it or downgrade to root and things like that.
2. How long does the battery last on this when you're constantly using this? I plan on mostly reading, taking notes in class, and just experimenting with it.
3. How compatible is this with Android apps with the rooted stock firmware? I've used a Nook Touch, and half the stuff didn't even launch. I'm assuming that's not the case on this.
4. How well does Cyanogen mod run from a card? Is it better to install it to the flash?
5. Is it better to root it or just use a custom rom?
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Well, I used to have a Nook Simple touch until it was stepped on, so I'm getting a Color. Before I get it though, I'm just have a few questions.
1. For rooting this thing, how complicated is it? It's not so much it being too complex, it's more of do you have to re-partition it or downgrade to root and things like that.
2. How long does the battery last on this when you're constantly using this? I plan on mostly reading, taking notes in class, and just experimenting with it.
3. How compatible is this with Android apps with the rooted stock firmware? I've used a Nook Touch, and half the stuff didn't even launch. I'm assuming that's not the case on this.
4. How well does Cyanogen mod run from a card? Is it better to install it to the flash?
5. Is it better to root it or just use a custom rom?
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There are some people that like the rooted stock, especially since it has been upgraded by B&N. I did not mind rooted stock and it could run almost anything. It was not difficult to root. But I was constantly worried that it would get updated over the air and wipe out my root. Then I tried CM7 and I was blown away. It was fantastic.
Running CM7 on SD works great. And it runs almost as fast. I can't tell any difference myself.
I personally recommend not doing anything with stock at first. Put CM7 on SD and see how you like it. Some people like leaving stock on the main memory because the Nook reader on stock is better than on CM7. It can read kids books, textbooks, etc. (edit: And with the CM7 boot menu it is easy to boot back and forth without taking out the card.) If you end up liking CM7 and not using stock you can always move your CM7 permanently to main memory.
Battery life is not great compared to the original kindle or original nooks. The color touch screen really eats the battery. I am on mine constantly and pretty much have to charge every night. But it does sleep good if you are not using it.
I don't think you will regret getting the Color.
The guide for installing to SD is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12240928
There is a brand new release of CM7 (7.2-RC1). You can get it here:
http://download.cyanogenmod.com/?device=encore
Sent from my Nook Color running ICS and Tapatalk
read my post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1442509
should have all the info you need to make your decision, if you follow cobyhoffs instructions it's pretty simple to root.
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...And with the CM7 boot menu it is easy to boot back and forth without taking out the card...
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Awesome! That's actually just what I was needing. I wasn't really looking forward to having to take the card out every time I wanted to rebooting.
Is there USB Host for the NC?
Edit: And another question: is it possible to configure network settings like DNS on this? I'm guessing stock won't but Cyanogenmod will.
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Awesome! That's actually just what I was needing. I wasn't really looking forward to having to take the card out every time I wanted to rebooting.
Is there USB Host for the NC?
Edit: And another question: is it possible to configure network settings like DNS on this? I'm guessing stock won't but Cyanogenmod will.
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There is usb host built into CM. Not stock. I don't know the answer about dns. It think you can manually edit the connection settings like static ip, etc.
One last question, what size SD card should I get for Cyanogenmod?
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One last question, what size SD card should I get for Cyanogenmod?
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Get any size you want, but it runs best from SanDisk class 4
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You should take a look at the Racks uSD dual boot post too. I have been using that dual boot image with subsequent updates and it has been great and easy.
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Awesome! That's actually just what I was needing. I wasn't really looking forward to having to take the card out every time I wanted to rebooting.
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You don't have to. The bootloader (cyanoboot) has a menu. You can choose which you want to boot into, and you can set the default action to boot "through" sdcard to emmc unless told otherwise (if you want to change the normal boot behavior, which is to SD if it's bootable)
I've been playing around with several of the great ICS Roms for the Kindle Fire, especially once the 3.0 kernel really got rolling. Since this is the only device I currently have that can run any type of ICS, it's still fairly new to me. I was wondering what advantages people saw to ICS on the KF vs. using a rooted version of stock (like MoDaCo), and vice versa.
Please note, this isn't in any way meant to disparage the great work all the devs are doing with the kernel and different ICS Roms.
Here's my initial take (and please note, these are just my opinions), but would love more opinions.
Rooted stock
1. Stock reader: To me, the reader on the stock (or rooter stock) rom is much better than the Kindle for Android app
2. Kindle Fire apps: If you bought any, like I did before I started changing roms around, than you can still use these. Haven't been able to do so (yet) with any of the ICS roms
3. Market: Because it's rooted, I still have access to Google Play as well (limited to Gingerbread apps I'm sure) (don't know if this is really an advantage per se, but I thought it was a worthwhile point)
4. Battery: I had better battery life with the stock rom than with any of the ICS roms (*Note*: I know this item is likely temporary, since a lot of work is going into the 3.0 kernel)
5. Stability: Obviously, the ICS/3.0 items are still being worked on, so for now, the stock is likely going to experience fewer things like FCs and dropped WiFi (*Note*: Again, i'm sure this is temporary)
ICS
1. Interface: Likely a big reason many people switch over, the ICS interface is (to me) much cleaner and more user-friendly. Also, more customizable
1a. Tablet specific: Since ICS was created for for phones and tablets, the interface also works really well for a tablet, instead of just being a port of a phone interface.
2. USB OTG: I know this is a big point for a lot of people with the 3.0 kernel development, but having this even working a little is definitely a bonus
Thanks all.
The modaco rooted stock also has kindle owners lending library and amazon instant video. The ics doesn't.
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ICS is faster and more customizable. I think that's reason enough for me.
Dropped wifi is damn annoying but I'll live with it until something can be done.
Battery life for me has been about the same for me with stock and ICS though.
In the end, it's all about the apps for me so stock wins out over ICS. But the interface is so much smoother on ICS, and because hardware acceleration works it's now a much tougher choice to make.
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I've been playing around with several of the great ICS Roms for the Kindle Fire, especially once the 3.0 kernel really got rolling. Since this is the only device I currently have that can run any type of ICS, it's still fairly new to me. I was wondering what advantages people saw to ICS on the KF vs. using a rooted version of stock (like MoDaCo), and vice versa.
Please note, this isn't in any way meant to disparage the great work all the devs are doing with the kernel and different ICS Roms.
Here's my initial take (and please note, these are just my opinions), but would love more opinions.
Rooted stock
1. Stock reader: To me, the reader on the stock (or rooter stock) rom is much better than the Kindle for Android app
2. Kindle Fire apps: If you bought any, like I did before I started changing roms around, than you can still use these. Haven't been able to do so (yet) with any of the ICS roms
3. Market: Because it's rooted, I still have access to Google Play as well (limited to Gingerbread apps I'm sure) (don't know if this is really an advantage per se, but I thought it was a worthwhile point)
4. Battery: I had better battery life with the stock rom than with any of the ICS roms (*Note*: I know this item is likely temporary, since a lot of work is going into the 3.0 kernel)
5. Stability: Obviously, the ICS/3.0 items are still being worked on, so for now, the stock is likely going to experience fewer things like FCs and dropped WiFi (*Note*: Again, i'm sure this is temporary)
ICS
1. Interface: Likely a big reason many people switch over, the ICS interface is (to me) much cleaner and more user-friendly. Also, more customizable
1a. Tablet specific: Since ICS was created for for phones and tablets, the interface also works really well for a tablet, instead of just being a port of a phone interface.
2. USB OTG: I know this is a big point for a lot of people with the 3.0 kernel development, but having this even working a little is definitely a bonus
Thanks all.
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Rooted stock.
1. It's actually the same all behind the scenes.. could be placebo that makes stock feel nicer.
2. Just download the amazon app store and any app you bought on amazon will be available on an device or os.
3. Google play is google play. Not sure about it being limited to anything though. I think it uses galaxy tab 10.1 build.prop.
4. Seems about the same to mee. Unles you are pre 4/28 kernel and your unit wad not deep sleeping right.
5. On energy ics with 4/28 kernel I have not yet dropped WiFi or had a single FC. But.on previous builds it was pretty unstable.
ICS.
1. It is nice, but not having the full screen for icons sucks. Is like an asop build at some point. Still better than stock 6.3 with go launcher.
2.USB host is kick ass..
Bottom line.
If you need book borrowing or amazon streaming then stock non rooted is really the best way to go. Of you could care leas about borrowing or streaming (srsly, netflix and hulu have twice the content and its not a dollar f-ing 99 PER episode!! wtf amazon.. 80 bucks a year for prime and that's how you do me? 1.99 per episode of New Girl? Die in a fire amazon...)
Ics on kindle is amazing I like to bring it to best buy and WoW the retarded pc sales guys.. lol.
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Serinety said:
Rooted stock.
1. It's actually the same all behind the scenes.. could be placebo that makes stock feel nicer.
2. Just download the amazon app store and any app you bought on amazon will be available on an device or os.
3. Google play is google play. Not sure about it being limited to anything though. I think it uses galaxy tab 10.1 build.prop.
4. Seems about the same to mee. Unles you are pre 4/28 kernel and your unit wad not deep sleeping right.
5. On energy ics with 4/28 kernel I have not yet dropped WiFi or had a single FC. But.on previous builds it was pretty unstable.
ICS.
1. It is nice, but not having the full screen for icons sucks. Is like an asop build at some point. Still better than stock 6.3 with go launcher.
2.USB host is kick ass..
Bottom line.
If you need book borrowing or amazon streaming then stock non rooted is really the best way to go. Of you could care leas about borrowing or streaming (srsly, netflix and hulu have twice the content and its not a dollar f-ing 99 PER episode!! wtf amazon.. 80 bucks a year for prime and that's how you do me? 1.99 per episode of New Girl? Die in a fire amazon...)
Ics on kindle is amazing I like to bring it to best buy and WoW the retarded pc sales guys.. lol.
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Thanks for the reply. A couple of counter-points to yours:
1. The stock reader is actually a bit different from the Kindle App. The stock reader handles things like margins and line spacing better than the android app. I tested this out with the same book on both. I think the ICS android app still needs some work, as the Gingerbread/CM7 version also looks better than than ICS one (my opinion).
2. Actually, even installing the Amazon App store will typically not let you install games/apps with the Kindle Fire Edition moniker. Most apps will work just fine, you're correct, but any of those specific ones (I think mostly games, but could be others) won't even show up, much less install. Folks have even tried the full titanium backup/restore with mixed results. So, if you don't have any of these kinds of apps, this is really a non-issue.
Thanks.
I was staying away from ICS due to lack of hw accel, but I switched over recently.
However, I saw that Wired magazine app doesn't work on ICS so I had to return back to stock.
Now, I'm considering dualbooting ICS with stock. It seems to be the most viable option.
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1. Stock reader: To me, the reader on the stock (or rooter stock) rom is much better than the Kindle for Android app
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Have you checked out an app called FBReader? Personally, I prefer it over the Kindle Reader app, and it could negate one of stock's "good points"...
Dasanko said:
Have you checked out an app called FBReader? Personally, I prefer it over the Kindle Reader app, and it could negate one of stock's "good points"...
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No, I haven't heard of it, but I'll give it a look, thanks.
I've tried both and found ICS slower on calling up web pages.
I really don't see what it adds to the party over and above Modaco.
I would describe ICS as more like tossed salad as in it's all over the place.
Also Amazon Appstore wouldn't install or me on ICS. Maybe because I am outside the US
Any app that is designated as [Kindle Fire Edition] will only work on the stock KF. So that's something to think about when buying apps from Amazon Appstore. I really hate the KF UI and much prefer ICS. The home page carousel is the worst.
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Any app that is designated as [Kindle Fire Edition] will only work on the stock KF. So that's something to think about when buying apps from Amazon Appstore. I really hate the KF UI and much prefer ICS. The home page carousel is the worst.
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I was actually able to get one Kindle Fire Edition app to work on ICS, Dead Space. Had to to a backup using Titanium Backup from MoDaCo and then restore to ICS. Of course, I likely won't get any updates. Funny thing is, this same process wouldn't work for 2 Gameloft games (DH2 and Asphalt 6).
I purchased a Nook Color from staples today, and after doing a good bit of reading around here and looking at the software and such, I definitely want to root it.
My question to all that have rooted it - is it smooth? I'm not interested in playing games on it, or watching movies or such - I'm using it as my eReader for all of my digital books for my college courses. But the software limits of this thing are pretty frustrating - mainly the inability to access the Play Market and my Kindle purchases.
I just don't want a considerable amount of lag when scrolling between screens, for example. I know it's not the strongest machine out there, but all of the honeycomb videos I've seen have been pretty laggy and slow when transitioning. Are the newer roms like this as well?
IceCatraz said:
I purchased a Nook Color from staples today, and after doing a good bit of reading around here and looking at the software and such, I definitely want to root it.
My question to all that have rooted it - is it smooth? I'm not interested in playing games on it, or watching movies or such - I'm using it as my eReader for all of my digital books for my college courses. But the software limits of this thing are pretty frustrating - mainly the inability to access the Play Market and my Kindle purchases.
I just don't want a considerable amount of lag when scrolling between screens, for example. I know it's not the strongest machine out there, but all of the honeycomb videos I've seen have been pretty laggy and slow when transitioning. Are the newer roms like this as well?
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Both rooted stock and CM7 are pretty snappy. CM9 begins to start getting laggy. Use the Manual Nooter 5.08.20 to root stock and you can install things from play store. Or try CM7 on SD to see if you like it.
Thanks! Would you suggest CM7 over rooted stock? I wouldn't mind using rooted stock at all - but I'd like to know which you like. I can still install Google Play with rooted stock, correct? I just don't want that nasty honeycomb looking interface - it's just really not for me.
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Thanks! Would you suggest CM7 over rooted stock? I wouldn't mind using rooted stock at all - but I'd like to know which you like. I can still install Google Play with rooted stock, correct? I just don't want that nasty honeycomb looking interface - it's just really not for me.
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Rooting stock makes sense if you care about B&N features:
Read to me (mostly children's book)
Enhanced content (e.g. Conde Nast magazines such as Wired, New Yorker, though some of these are becoming available via 3rd party sources.)
Newpaper or magazine subscriptions (auto-update feature is nice)
B&N Free in-store reading
Support from friends with stock Nooks or B&N (conditional upon being rooted)
The B&N reader experience and shell. The B&N Android Nook app is not the same thing as their firmware experience, at least not yet. Someday, they may update the B&N Nook Android app, but it is pretty poor right now. If you want to read B&N stuff, then 1.4.x is a big deal.
If you don't care about any of these things, sticking with B&N's firmware won't gain you anything, and has some annoying quirks. I originally started with CM7.1 on my NC, then went back to B&N and stuck with it for the better part of a year. It's very pretty and they do some nice things, but I recently went back to CM7.2 full time.
As suggested, build a bootable uSD card with CM or something else on it and compare. There's no risk that way. If you like CM better, I do recommend putting it on internal (eMMC) memory for maximum flexibility. If your NC is new, you might wait until it's out of warranty to do this.
The Play Store works fine rooted.
Thanks! I just rooted my Nook Color, and it works just fine. I think I'll be sticking with stock root. And you were right - the stock is pretty snappy. Thanks for the info, both of you.
I purchased a NST some time back and rooted it according to the Nook Manager guide here. I then kind of left it gathering dust! Have a bit of free time now so is there an up to date post here on what further modifications I should make to get the best out of it please?
I think I like the look of Launcher 8 the most so will go for that. I notice a sticky about deleting lots of unnecessary apk files....is that still recommended? Any other stuff I should try?
Thank you for any help!
vanzan said:
I purchased a NST some time back and rooted it according to the Nook Manager guide here. I then kind of left it gathering dust! Have a bit of free time now so is there an up to date post here on what further modifications I should make to get the best out of it please?
I think I like the look of Launcher 8 the most so will go for that. I notice a sticky about deleting lots of unnecessary apk files....is that still recommended? Any other stuff I should try?
Thank you for any help!
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Hi! Glad you're here and interested in NST stuff!
I'd definitely recommend restoring your Nook to stock, updating to 1.2.1, and then getting the most recent NookManager and rerooting, just to make sure you're all up-to-date. For launchers, my favorite is ADW with the Minimalist theme (which is white-on-black), but feel free to try anything you like. I'd highly recommend getting NoRefresh and also multitouch working, because those are just so great. Definitely get a good screen rotation app for easy landscape mode usage. And be sure to get a good file explorer - I use ES File Explorer, and it's fantastic for me.
And I'd recommend deleting:
Gallery.apk
Phone.apk
TelephonyProvider.apk
PicoTTS.apk
TTSService.apk
DemoMode.apk
Browser.apk
Launcher.apk
You *can* delete more, but if you still want all the B&N uses, don't delete much else.
In regards to that "Guide/Tutorial/Tips'n'Tricks" thing, I'd say go for everything in it except the system file deletion - follow my list instead.
Do you have anything specific in mind?
What you should do depends largely on what you want out of your Nook. You will get some here who will say the installation of G-Apps is essential. Personally, I avoid that like the plague.
I have installed AlReader which reads most available ebook formats as long as the book is DRM free. A search of the XDA Nook forums will yield several versions of the Kindle for Android app which can be used to read Kindle books with DRM. I would say these are the essential apps for installation on a eReader. There are several threads in the "Nook Touch Themes and Apps" forum that give recommendations, some with links, to apps that work well on the Nook. In my opinion, the best thread is Old apps for Nook Simple Touch
~David
thenookieforlife3 said:
Hi! Glad you're here and interested in NST stuff!
I'd definitely recommend restoring your Nook to stock, updating to 1.2.1, and then getting the most recent NookManager and rerooting, just to make sure you're all up-to-date. For launchers, my favorite is ADW with the Minimalist theme (which is white-on-black), but feel free to try anything you like. I'd highly recommend getting NoRefresh and also multitouch working, because those are just so great. Definitely get a good screen rotation app for easy landscape mode usage. And be sure to get a good file explorer - I use ES File Explorer, and it's fantastic for me.
And I'd recommend deleting:
Gallery.apk
Phone.apk
TelephonyProvider.apk
PicoTTS.apk
TTSService.apk
DemoMode.apk
Browser.apk
Launcher.apk
You *can* delete more, but if you still want all the B&N uses, don't delete much else.
In regards to that "Guide/Tutorial/Tips'n'Tricks" thing, I'd say go for everything in it except the system file deletion - follow my list instead.
Do you have anything specific in mind?
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Thank you for your reply. From my reading here you seem the most active and knowledgeable poster so I'll definitely try out your suggestions. I definitely had 1.2.1 on there before I rooted as I actually only purchased the NST summer 2013. To be honest I couldn't face going through the rooting process again!
I believe NoRefresh is just an app (and I seem to have its apk already stored in my Dropbox).
Not quite sure about how (or why) to install Multi-Touch but I'll go searching.
I don't suppose you might have some pics of your ADW setup at all please my friend?
I grabbed your keyboard.apk from the other thread and I'm waiting patiently for the orientation app!
Finally I always use ES Explorer so I'll delete those apk files and hopefully there'll be a noticeable difference. Can't do anything at the moment as I'm charging the thing up after so it's been inactive so long.
Thank you!
vanzan said:
Thank you for your reply. From my reading here you seem the most active and knowledgeable poster so I'll definitely try out your suggestions. I definitely had 1.2.1 on there before I rooted as I actually only purchased the NST summer 2013. To be honest I couldn't face going through the rooting process again!
I believe NoRefresh is just an app (and I seem to have its apk already stored in my Dropbox).
Not quite sure about how (or why) to install Multi-Touch but I'll go searching.
I don't suppose you might have some pics of your ADW setup at all please my friend?
I grabbed your keyboard.apk from the other thread and I'm waiting patiently for the orientation app!
Finally I always use ES Explorer so I'll delete those apk files and hopefully there'll be a noticeable difference. Can't do anything at the moment as I'm charging the thing up after so it's been inactive so long.
Thank you!
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You're right, NoRefresh is just an app, but a very essential one.
You don't REALLY need multitouch unless you have a web browser with pinch-to-zoom (not Opera) or a PDF viewer, but it's still good to have just in case you do ever get one of them.
I attached a screenshot of my homescreen. Hope you like it! BTW, I use my avatar as my wallpaper.
And finally, I am working on getting the rotation app up on the thread. Check there in a few minutes.
Later.
Hey how come the U is purple (in colour)? I feel silly asking....
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Would I be correct that all I have to do to enable multi-touch is:
1. Write either the 128mb or 2gb image file to a micro sd with win32diskimager
2. Reboot the Nook with the sd card inside which will boot CWM and then install "multitouch.zip"?
It seems too easy!!! Also what's the difference between the 2gb and 128mb (besides the size! )?
vanzan said:
Would I be correct that all I have to do to enable multi-touch is:
1. Write either the 128mb or 2gb image file to a micro sd with win32diskimager
2. Reboot the Nook with the sd card inside which will boot CWM and then install "multitouch.zip"?
It seems too easy!!! Also what's the difference between the 2gb and 128mb (besides the size! )?
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Well, for starters, 2gb would be for a 2gb SD card. 128mb might be for a smaller one.
However, I'd like to know the source where you found this "multitouch.zip". Could you give me a link to it?
Also, what model (Nook Touch/Nook Touch Glow) and what software version (1.1.5/1.2.0/1.2.1) is your Nook device?
vanzan said:
Thank you for your reply. From my reading here you seem the most active and knowledgeable poster so I'll definitely try out your suggestions. I definitely had 1.2.1 on there before I rooted as I actually only purchased the NST summer 2013. To be honest I couldn't face going through the rooting process again!
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Just look under device settings/about your nook, It'll show you what version f/w that you're running, rooting didn't change it.
OB
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1.2.1
The links:
Multi-touch zip:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24245375&postcount=28
sd card images:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360994
What Nook model? Nook Touch or Nook Touch Glow?
And I bet you anything the multitouch .zip file is old. It was posted in 2012!
But if you have a Nook Touch Glow, I can share my multitouch files with you and also give you installation instructions.
The multi touch kernel might be old but it was written after the last f/w update so there's really not much need for anything newer. Actually I find that the ability to over and under clock is the more useful part of the kernel day to day than the multi touch.
OB
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OverByter said:
...over and under clock...
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What is that? And how do I do it?
thenookieforlife3 said:
What is that? And how do I do it?
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The kernel that I'm using, it's been awhile but I'm pretty sure that it's the 166 version, allows you to under/over clock the cpu from the default 800 mhz using an app such as cpu control, mine is currently set to 1000 mhz, makes things a little bit zippier without too much effect on battery life.
OB
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OverByter said:
The kernel that I'm using, it's been awhile but I'm pretty sure that it's the 166 version, allows you to under/over clock the cpu from the default 800 mhz using an app such as cpu control, mine is currently set to 1000 mhz, makes things a little bit zippier without much effects on battery life.
OB
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Whoa! That sound wicked!
I'm using the USBHost/Multitouch kernel found at this thread (I only made the thread, not the files). Do you think I could incorporate the over/underclock feature into this kernel? If so, could you tell me how?
Edit - NVM, found it after a teeny bit of research. The kernel is uImage. :laugh: