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[Q] SndInit proplem please help !

hi guys
my defy firmware is on version 5
anyway i downgraded to froyo now i want to install SndInit cuz i want to flash cm7 on my phone
so now on froyo rooted it then rebooted it after the root
now every time i install Sndinit it gives me success then i reboot my phone and my phone just get stock at motorola logo and keeps rebooting
what is wrong ??
i want to flash cm7 and every time i install SndInit i reboot to get to recovery mode it stocks at motorola sign
please help i tried all the versions of SndInit and i always gets stock at motorola sign
please help me i really want to flash cm7 and that SndInit aint working for me
any other way ?
waiting for ur help guys thanks alot in advance

on bootmenu set default 2nd-init and after this wipe cache partiton and dalvik cache. if doesn't work reinstall froyo, root it; install SndInitDefy_2.0.apk (last 2ndInit) and Bootmenu 1.0.4 and CWM 5.0.3.1

thanks for ur replay but i did set it as default also tried the beta
my phone after i install (SndInitDefy 2.0 or 1.4 or 1.5 or 1.9 i tried alots of version )then reboot i just get stock at motorola logo i cant get into recovery and my phone just stays at motorola sign so i flash spf again to make it work
i have tried 2 versions of froyo its the same
what do i have to do what is wrong ?
thanks in advance

dude can you explain more please im having the same problem i cant install 2endint i did install bBootmenu 1.0.4 and CWM 5.0.3.1 but what do i do now? i go to stock recovery ?? please explain a little bit more thank man .

i also had met the same situation as you mentioned. and i found if i unpluged the usb from my computer, sndinit will take effect after rebooted. maybe this could be helpful to you.
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read this, if don't understand search in forum
zyxwvut said:
Monzer, when you install bootmenu are you installing the .apk and then opening the app and then clicking to install 2nd init? This is the right procedure! after you do this reboot your phone and watch for blue led to flash during boot, hit volume down once it flashes blue.
What 2nd init version are you installing? here is the latest http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=792601&d=1322064151
Are you trying to flash CM7?
There is a very old version of CWM that should be suitable if all else fails you. It should work just fine to flash CM7 but not so sure about CM9. However if you want to flash CM9 You could use this old version of CWM to flash CM7 which will in turn install a new version of 2nd init which is definitely suitable for flashing CM9. This old CWM "might" work for flashing CM9 but I dunno if I would try or not! Download in my attachment below!
You MUST enable USB debugging to install.
copy the apk to your sdcard and use a file manager to install it then open the app in your app drawer and choose to install the custom recovery (with USB dubugging ON)
THIS STEP IS VERY IMPORTANT!!!
AFTER INSTALLING THE CUSTOM RECOVERY DISABLE USB DEBUGGING.
You enter CWM by again opening the app and choosing reboot to recovery (with USB debuggind OFF)
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[Q] Can i install MS2Ginger over CM7 ?

Hi there i had a problem 2 month ago installing 2endint on my defy anyway i installed CM7 using the custom recovery, now i have CWM installed so i was wonder if i can install MS2Ginger over CM7 thanks

I've not had success with it. I usually have to flash a Froyo SBF before going to a Gingerblur ROM.

Monzer_ said:
Hi there i had a problem 2 month ago installing 2endint on my defy anyway i installed CM7 using the custom recovery, now i have CWM installed so i was wonder if i can install MS2Ginger over CM7 thanks
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i was able to install ms2 ginger over cm7 and again cm7

Yes, you can. However, after installing the CM7 zip, you need to flash this fixed sbf using RSD Lite.

Zorua said:
Yes, you can. However, after installing the CM7 zip, you need to flash this fixed sbf using RSD Lite.
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what is this fixed sbf for ? and should i flashed it after i install MS2Ginger ? thanks

You wipe data in 2ndinit, boot into the flashing menu, flash fixed sbf, reboot phone ibto 2nd init recovery, advanced restore, boot, then system, then devtree, then data, then reboot
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ok so this fixed SBF for CM7 in case i wanna come back from MS2Ginger to CM7 right ?

Yes, that's right. After you install the CM7 zip from clockworkmod, hold up button while rebooting and flash this fixed sbf using RSD Lite. Make sure you clear data and cache from clockworkmod after flashing the fixed sbf.

another question its maybe out of the thread but does it matter that i didnt use 2endinit to install CM7 or not ? coz i used custom recovery i mean is there any side effects ?

Yes, there could be some problems. You should install 2nd init, format data and cache, install CM7 and install the fixed sbf after that. Should work fine then.
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Zorua said:
Yes, that's right. After you install the CM7 zip from clockworkmod, hold up button while rebooting and flash this fixed sbf using RSD Lite. Make sure you clear data and cache from clockworkmod after flashing the fixed sbf.
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i was able to come back to cm7 from ms2ginger without flashing the fixed sbf . i have ms2ginger 2.1 for green lens i.e soc module
so if i didn't flashed fixed sbf over ms2ginger will i not be able to get back to my nandroid of 2.2.2 version?
please correct me!

Adityaak said:
i was able to come back to cm7 from ms2ginger without flashing the fixed sbf . i have ms2ginger 2.1 for green lens i.e soc module
so if i didn't flashed fixed sbf over ms2ginger will i not be able to get back to my nandroid of 2.2.2 version?
please correct me!
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Adityaak did u install ms2gigner over cm7 ?? if u did are u having any problem with it like rebooting it self ?? thanks in advance

Monzer_ said:
Adityaak did u install ms2gigner over cm7 ?? if u did are u having any problem with it like rebooting it self ?? thanks in advance
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yeah i restored the nandroid of ms2ginger2.1 over CM7 and the ms2ginger 2.1 is really good i love it battery backup is really nice just some FC with the camera at starting but now i day i dont even get those FC for the camera i'm loving this ROM.

Bootloop, SBF issue >please help

I accidentaly installed the CM9 kernel when i should have installed the CM7 one with ICS. Then i made a nandroid restore of my previous CM7. Than... phone dead. Starting but no CWM no ROM booting.
As i have had CM7 with GB kernel( i think) i flashed ( not knowing) an old SBF than didn't booted. I tried the JORDN_U3_97.21.51 T-Mobile It boots, i can root it, install CWM.
But than when i try to install a CM7 nightly ( installed ok) it dies again. Starts but No CWM no Rom booting.
What to do? I don't know what SBF to flash or what method to install?
Problem update I red that the above SBF has a CG Version 3: SBF 2.51 (Éclair) (Defy) so i installed several CG Version 4: SBF 3.4.2 (Froyo) (Defy).
They don't work. RSD says PASS but phone is dead .No stock recovery no boot. Only way to get it back to life is if i flash the eclair again.
I red that if i get a back screen when booting i have installed a lower CG version. As i tested with version 4, version 5 GB is the only option. I didn't try it out because there are some issues. Froyo would have been much more easier.

i think many readers of your post are getting problems with understanding your problem ...
you got a stock defy, rooted it, installed 2ndinit via apk, booted into recovery (vol- at blue led) and installed CM7 zip ??? correct ???
after succesfull install of CM7 your phone doesn't turn on? Black screen?
black screen after zip is (i think) impossible ... but i can fail ...
i would like to help you, but first you have to give the detailed steps you did and what you wanted to do ...

To make it simplier
I installed the JORDN_U3_97.21.51 T-Mobile (which is 2.1 update1) It boots, i can root it, install 2nd-init > CWM. Set Normal boot.
Than in CWM nothing works.
Installing a CM7 nightly, or restoring a CWM backup.
I install a CM7 nightly like this> In CWM> Custom Recovery> Wipe data, wipe cache> install Cm7 zip, install Gaaps zip. After this, phone restarts, screen is on, logo appears and i wait and wait. Nothing happens.
Do i have to install a special CM7 build?
The CWM backup does not restore. It says that files are missing ( like android.secure..) I am not interested in keeping downgrade ability. i would like to try another SBF. I am not 100% sure what SBF to use from the wiki page.
I red that the SBF i installed has some special "problems" here> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905371. They are talking of a CWM revoery app by tenfair here> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=875233
Maybe that works^. Will try it after the phone is fully charged.

so, ok ... thats detailed as i wish
ok, the problem is clear i think ... first of all eclair is not a nice system for a defy ... upgrade to froyo or even gingerbread ... (keep in mind, that GB has problems with green lens camera) ...
than you can root it with SuperOneClick e.g. ... if this is running correctly, you can install 2ndinit via apk ... then boot, vol- while blue led (i know, you know how ) ... in that clockworkmod recovery you can wipe the devices data and cache partition (even wipe dalvik cache in advanced menu) ... then install CM7.2-nightly-.... .zip ... you may have to flash an fixed sbf with the nessesary kernel for CM7 at this point to boot ...
if this is working fine, you can install the gapps.zip via recovery ...
also try to set boot to 2ndinit in boot-menu ... i don't think it's "normal" boot for CM7 ... but i can't try at the moment cause of my bricked defy ...

Thanks for the reply.
The problem is that i can't install other Froyo SBF's. Will try Gingerbread SBF. The last froyo didn't boot, will try a new one. Weird, i know. Maybe someone can tell me which CM7 to flash? An older one with Kernel ? I didn't think the install would be so tricky.

Froyo Full-SBF doesn't boot on your defy?
be aware of flashing Gingerbread then ... if GB doesn't boot, you will have a problem downgrading to froyo / eclair ...
it sonds crazy, that froyo isn't booting on your device ... have you done a full wipe after froyo sbf? it's important ...

I'm on the Eclair SBF right now. What should i do? Go into recovery and do a wipe or install a new Froyo SBF? It's about the CG value maybe. I understand the mechanism but don't know how to check the CG value. If i search for my current eclair SBF i get all sorts of weird stuff. Nevertheless i will try and try until i succeed. It took me a while to figure out the Rooting method. Superoneclick does not work. It's a special method for the 2.51.
The thing is that i wanted to go the my Nordic SBF( the one Quarx used during the first days of CM7) and it didn't booted. That's why i tried this one. Funny ho flashing the wrong kernel(CM9 instead of CM7) can brake things like this. What i don't understand is how my CWM backup didn't restore. It restored well, finished, then phone dead. No CWM.
edit: i just red: 2.51 is Not downgradable. But no downgrade to what??? Will try to some Froyo SBF's, see if works. But that does not solve my CM7 issues.

Tried a few Froyo SBF's. Wiped data/cache in Stock Recovery. RSD says PASS than phone does not boot. Only the 21.51 eclair works all the time.....Where next?
Update 2 got it to work with this>
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1486731&highlight=cg

OMG i dn't understand what was going on with your defy, but i'm happy to know your on the road again
the only sbf that are running are the stock eclair you have (21.51) and the modded BL6 with Froyo Kernel ???

Glad it worked.
DJ_Synergy said:
OMG i dn't understand what was going on with your defy, but i'm happy to know your on the road again
the only sbf that are running are the stock eclair you have (21.51) and the modded BL6 with Froyo Kernel ???
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Yes but now i am running CM9 flawlessly. So happy. The only thing that bothers me is the Chinese Boot screen )). But that can be changed. It's great that one SBF works, moded or not. I tried like 6,7 other Stock sbf's before. So a message to whom tries to install SBF's: Stay away from JORDN_U3_97.21.51 SBF. Even the Rooting method is awful (until you find it) .

HI Deonix, I have the similar problem. However I am unable to use RSDlite as it gives a failure messg when u click start. I tried JRDNEM_U3_3.4.3-36-1.7.sbf and JRDNEM_U3_2.59.0_CHN_P3_SIGN_SIGNED_UCAJRDNEMARAB1B50AA028.0R_USAJORDANRTINT15_P003_A020_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf.
Both failed, I will try using the rsdlite after the cache and factory rest this time based on your suggestions. Can you tell, if your adb command was listing your device, as mine is not.
my CWM is also gone I get some old android recovery system 3e instead which fails after signature check.

Hi,
I think I know what is your problem.
I also installed the firmware JORDN_U3_97.21.51 and now I can only install any Custom ROM after installing the firmware fix for JORDN_U3_97.21.51.
I did upload it for you: http://www.4shared.com/rar/o02VEk_v/firmware.html?refurl=d1url
It is the following:
Install JORDN_U3_97.21.51;
Rootear;
Install the Recovery;
Install the fix;
enter the recovery and install any rom you want, remembering to delete the caches (data and Dalvik cache)
ps: have 100% of the battery before installing the SBF.
any problems let me know.

Sometimes you could get stuck in a bootloop and all you need to do is pull battery and reboot
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Same Problem, Please help!
Deonix said:
Yes but now i am running CM9 flawlessly. So happy. The only thing that bothers me is the Chinese Boot screen )). But that can be changed. It's great that one SBF works, moded or not. I tried like 6,7 other Stock sbf's before. So a message to whom tries to install SBF's: Stay away from JORDN_U3_97.21.51 SBF. Even the Rooting method is awful (until you find it) .
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Hey bro.
Even i have got the Defy working, but its not detecting the device when connected to the computer, i have done all the basic troubleshooting, is it working for you??
is it bcoz this room is for ME525??

[Q] All ROMs are failing

Hi all!
Almost all ROMs out there are failing to work correctly or even boot on my Defy (red lens). Some do boot, some go to bootloop.
Here's the full story. Two days ago the latest CM10 nightly from Quarx went to bootloop, it was working just fine, but at some point the phone rebooted and didn't boot back up.
I've decided to try another ROM and installed WIUI v4 (JB) from CWM. I went to check device's internal memory and it appeared that I had 48 MB used and that that was all internal memory - the system hasn't even loaded total memory info.
I performed some search and found this thread with the similar issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1940503
It suggested flashing an SBF via RSD Lite. I did that using the SBF from that thread (2.2 CEE Froyo). I suppose that was my mistake since the thread referred to Defy with a green lens. However, I was finally able to boot the device. I decided to try another SBF. JRDNEM_U3_3.4.2_179-002_DEBLUR_SIGN_SIGNED_UCAJRDN to be precise. Everything went just fine. I was able to root the device, install CWM using SndInitDefy 2.0, and install stable CM7 (the official one, update-cm-7.1.0-jordan-signed.zip) and Froyo kernel from WIUI.
Everything was working fine except for the camera. It was showing the following error:
"Camera error. Cannot connect to camera"
After that I though that maybe I've messed up with SBF versions. The phone is not sold in Ukraine officially and I didn't remember which SBF it used when it was shipped.
I then followed the guide from All-in-one beginners guide and installed that Chinese SBF with Version 5 CG (thus I presume I can't flash any full SBF now since this will cause a black screen and I will have to re-flash 97.21.51 SBF and do all that stuff all over). Again, I was able to root the phone and stuff. However, none of Quarx's nightlies are working, CM7.2 or 2nd-boot CM10 are simply bootlooping, WIUI v4 can't connect to any of Google's services (they constantly FC), and none of the ROMs can connect to the camera.
Currently I'm using the following:
official CM7.1.0
Android 2.3.7
kernel [email protected] #1
Build number Gingerbread GWK74
I'm okay with staying on CM7.1, but I require the camera to work. So, the question is, what should be done in order to make the camera work?
Maybe, I should change some lib files, if so, could you please provide with the link to the correct ones? I've already tried some camera fix SBF's but they didn't seem to work. If there is any additional information required, please let me know.
Any help will be really appreciated!
Thank you in advance.

Maybe you could get rid of the sbf problem(camera issue caused by wrong flashing) by flashing a defyplus sbf with group code 6. Then your camera should work.
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Thanks, thekguy! Will try this later today.

Nope, that didn't work, unfortunately. Flashed 4.5.1-134_DFP-125, but the camera is still failing, as well as the latest CM10. Any suggestions are welcome.

Hmm, latest cm10 2ndboot right? That's a very bad sign, since that rom indeed works with both the camera modules, and its really curious that it's not working.
Flash back to any defy bl6 sbf from this list(don't flash defy+ sbf since that approach isn't working):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966537
Wipe data, and use the defy ultimate wiper script(it's there in themes and apps section, use ext4 version if you're on cm10 or ext3 for any other rom).
Now flash cm10 2ndboot build, and try using the camera.
Normally that should work, even if you have a green lens module, but if not so then it could be add a result of a hardware failure
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Yeah, I've also tried CM7 for Defy+, but that didn't work either. And I guess I pushed my device few steps closer to the brick yesterday. I flashed one of Chinese SBFs (JRDNEM_U3_3.4.3-36-1_CHINESE_SIGN_SIGNED_UCAJRDNEMARAB1B80AA03A.0R_PDS03C_USAJRDNFRYORTINT_P011_A013_HWp3_Service1FF). It's BL7 SBF and it's known for its outstanding unbricking abilities. Didn't work for me. However, the bootloader is still accessible and I will keep playing with the phone today.
I'm getting tired of all this.

Didn't work? Camera or unable to boot?
Remember, you must wipe data from stock recovery before you can boot into the stock rom
Once you are running on the stock rom, check if the camera works. If not then follow my other post about getting to cm10 2ndboot. It may hang once on boot but it will boot after that. If still the camera is not working then I'm afraid it's beyond help
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thekguy said:
Didn't work? Camera or unable to boot?
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Didn't boot at all, just a blank black screen. I can't enter stock recovery and the bootloader is not visible. However, if I boot up with power+vol+ and connect the phone to the desktop, RSD Lite detects the phone and I can flash an SBF. But my guess is that this would be useless since the last SBF I flashed was BL7.
Well, I'm at work right now, thus I can't try anything out right now. Theoretically, I should be able to flash any SBF with BL7, and root it using this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1542956

Then, flash both sbfs from that guide, and it should work.
You shouldn't get any blank screen, simply because you've got the highest possible group code, and you cannot have a wrong kernel just after flashing the sbf. It must work
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Thanks. Will definitely give it a try once I get home.

OK, I've managed to install 4.5.1-134 DFP-231 Retail.en.EU CEE, root it, and flashed CM10 2nd-boot nightly. However, I'm still unable to boot the phone. It shows CM10 logo spinning for 10-20 seconds and then reboots. I assume that this is the only ROM which can make the camera work. Am I right? If yes, what should I check or do in order to fix the boot looping? If I can use some other ROM, could you please let me know which one exactly and what can be done in order to fix the camera?
Thank you!

Just flashed CM10 and checked the log, there's the following message:
set_perm: chown of /system/xbin/tcpdump to 0 0 failed: No such file or directory
set_perm: chmod of /system/xbin/tcpdump to 6755 failed: No such file or directory
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Could this be a source of the problem?

Another update. I've installed WIUI v4 for GB kernel and looks like it requires less internal memory/RAM to run so I'm able to boot the phone completely. And it's showing that I have 0.00 MB of internal storage in total and 58 MB used. I guess internal memory issue is somehow related to the bootloop.

Before flashing cm10, use both the ultimate wiper scripts(ext4 and ext3 version)
After flashing cm10, go back to boot menu and select tools, file system tools and format to ext4. It should boot now
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Thanks for the clue, but I'm afraid that didn't work. Since I had some time and have no data to lose, I wiped the phone from stock recovery, flashed both standard 4.5.1-134 DFP-231 and rooted 4.5.1-134 DFP-231, wiped everything using both ext3 and ext4 Ultimate scripts, flashed Quarx's 2nd boot CM10, formatted data and cache to ext4 using File System tools. CM10 still bootloops, but at least now I have internal memory info displayed correctly in WIUI v4 (JB). But since it's not a 2nd boot ROM, the camera isn't working.
In fact, I've tried some other 2nd boot scripts (NEGAN-6DIC and Codenameandroid 3.6.6), but they are bootlooping as well.
Maybe there are some other 2nd boot ROMs I should check? Or maybe if I get a nandroid backup of a working system I could restore it on my phone?

Try converting to ext4 and flash after that. It is really curious why it bootloops. You must get cm10 to boot, so that the camera works. Look here for downloading a stock kernel that should hopefully fix the boot loops.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1909242
Scroll down for the post which talks about having a compatible stock kernel which should allow 2ndboot to work(it's titled for bl7 users).
Flash this kernel after stock sbf flash, then try installing cm10.
Let's see how this goes
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Still no joy. Neither formatting, nor following this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1909242 worked. Is there a way to see boot log from a desktop? I have both Debian and Win7 on my desktop.
Thanks.

There is a way to debug using uart, but I have no experience with it. So, sbf flash+ compatible stock kernel failed? Please describe the boot loop. Does it reach the cyanogenmod logo? Or stuck at red Motorola logo? I am at my wits end at this one. All my semi bricks and other problems I could fix by the methods outlined in my previous posts, but they don't seem to work in your case. You flash full sbfs right? And are you able to boot the stock Rom?
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Here's how it loops:
- the phone starts
- shows red Moto logo
- blue led
- red led
- blank black screen
- HW buttons blink once
- CM10 spins for approx 5-10 seconds
- the phone restarts and all the steps repeat
Yes, I'm able to flash full SBF (BL7 ones). I'm able to boot into a stock ROM, I can flash modded SBF for BL7 (the rooted one). I've tried flashing CM10 SBF, but the phone booted into a bootloader and showed an error, with set of numbers. Looks like because of the kernel (my guess is that SBF contains non-2nd boot version of CM10).
If I install WIUI v4 right after I flash rooted SBF I have no issues with the internal storage.
If I install 2nd boot CM10 (Kayant's, Quarx's) I get a boot loop (Ultimate Wipe doesn't help)
If I install WIUI v4 after CM10 (without re-flashing SBF's), I get 0.00 internal storage, but wiping data/cache from stock recovery solves the issue.
Unfortunately, wiping data/cache from stock recovery doesn't do the trick for CM10 2nd boot builds.
One more thing, after I flash CM10 and try to wipe data/cache from stock recovery for the first time, it shows recover log errors. There are errors when entering stock recovery after that.

Might be a false trail, but what about wiping from custom recovery? Dalvik cache wipe?
This indicates that the kernel had loaded before some other problem caused the phone to enter into boot loop. What about the camera in the stock build? Same error as before?:banghead:
The cm10 sbf probably had a lower group code(bl6 perhaps) hence that approach won't work, and even discarding that it will yield the same results as before.
Also, in stock, check if the kernel version changes after you flash the compatible stock kernel from the thread I had mentioned earlier. This is important because otherwise there is no chance for cm10 to boot.
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[Q] TWRP won't install over CWM

I tried to install TWRP from CWM. The process goes down, it tells me to reboot recovery. I rebooted, and still, i have CWM. What should i do?
defy red lens cm9 epsylon

if youre not opposed to starting over with a fresh sbf, then do just that. this time stick to twrp. seems to be doing much better than CWM

undyingvisage58 said:
if youre not opposed to starting over with a fresh sbf, then do just that. this time stick to twrp. seems to be doing much better than CWM
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but i can't install twrp. i just does not replace cwm, and from froyo or éclair i cant install it with goomanager. from cm9 goomanager tells my device is not supported

gyorgyszemok said:
but i can't install twrp. i just does not replace cwm, and from froyo or éclair i cant install it with goomanager. from cm9 goomanager tells my device is not supported
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my next advice is to learn how to manage your own roms without goomanager. for the most part you can read the tutorials on the defy wiki page to install "2ndInit Recovery". then use the 2ndinit recovery to install twrp. from there you install 10.2/4.3 and enjoy. just make sure you know well how to do sbf flashes just in case you goof and softbrick your phone in the process.
plus you should be able to install goo manager once youve settled in with twrp.

undyingvisage58 said:
my next advice is to learn how to manage your own roms without goomanager. for the most part you can read the tutorials on the defy wiki page to install "2ndInit Recovery". then use the 2ndinit recovery to install twrp. from there you install 10.2/4.3 and enjoy. just make sure you know well how to do sbf flashes just in case you goof and softbrick your phone in the process.
plus you should be able to install goo manager once youve settled in with twrp.
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You misunderstood me maybe. I never used Goomanager. The first time I did was like 2 days ago when I found out I can't install CM10.x with CWM v5, but v6 or TWRP, and tried to install TWRP from it. It didn't work. Also, the TWRP flashable zip won't install from CWM. I mean... It says it's ok and reboot recovery but nothing. Gwah I know all about sbf flashes in case of softbrick and all...
edit: im very, VERY familiar with cwm... never used any apk to manage my roms just 2ndinit to install.

gyorgyszemok said:
You misunderstood me maybe. I never used Goomanager. The first time I did was like 2 days ago when I found out I can't install CM10.x with CWM v5, but v6 or TWRP, and tried to install TWRP from it. It didn't work. Also, the TWRP flashable zip won't install from CWM. I mean... It says it's ok and reboot recovery but nothing. Gwah I know all about sbf flashes in case of softbrick and all...
edit: im very, VERY familiar with cwm... never used any apk to manage my roms just 2ndinit to install.
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theres nothing else i can help you with then. all i can say is start from sbf flash and stay away from cm 10 2ndboot

Maybe not enough memory?
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undyingvisage58 said:
theres nothing else i can help you with then. all i can say is start from sbf flash and stay away from cm 10 2ndboot
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yeah... but i'd like to try it at least...
hotdog125 said:
Maybe not enough memory?
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I don't think so. Something is very fishy about my phone. very-VERY strange... I can't install cm10.x cuz' of no update-binary support in cwm v5, and i can't find a way to make TWRP work, nor can I find any CWM v6 install methods... srsly WUT EVERY OTHER stuff works as intended. everything. all roms before jelly bean. i need to make twrp work or a cwm v6 installation.

gyorgyszemok said:
yeah... but i'd like to try it at least...
I don't think so. Something is very fishy about my phone. very-VERY strange... I can't install cm10.x cuz' of no update-binary support in cwm v5, and i can't find a way to make TWRP work, nor can I find any CWM v6 install methods... srsly WUT EVERY OTHER stuff works as intended. everything. all roms before jelly bean. i need to make twrp work or a cwm v6 installation.
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Only CM10.2 needs the new CWMv6. CM10 and CM10.1 should work.
Your phone seems to trolling you:laugh:. But seriously, as a last resort I would flash DFP sbf. Gingerbread isn't half bad (especially with MS2Ginger, which is really stable and is compatible with Green Lens too).

hotdog125 said:
Only CM10.2 needs the new CWMv6. CM10 and CM10.1 should work.
Your phone seems to trolling you:laugh:. But seriously, as a last resort I would flash DFP sbf. Gingerbread isn't half bad (especially with MS2Ginger, which is really stable and is compatible with Green Lens too).
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Well then it's trolling me 'cuz CM10 gives the same status 7 error. It IS trolling me. But i'm scared of flashing a DFP sbf. What if things go wrong? I won't be able to rollback then.

You can try to use twrp on gb roms by replacing the boot menu folder in system by that of cm10 or later. Try once with a clean folder, and once by copying over the existing files.
As for defy plus sbf, if you have a green lens, camera won't work on any gb except ms2ginger. In addition a battery patch must be flashed after every rom for full charging. For red lens only battery patch has to be flashed.
None of the above applies to cm10 and later.
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gyorgyszemok said:
Well then it's trolling me 'cuz CM10 gives the same status 7 error. It IS trolling me. But i'm scared of flashing a DFP sbf. What if things go wrong? I won't be able to rollback then.
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If things go wrong, try a different SBF.

thekguy said:
You can try to use twrp on gb roms by replacing the boot menu folder in system by that of cm10 or later. Try once with a clean folder, and once by copying over the existing files.
As for defy plus sbf, if you have a green lens, camera won't work on any gb except ms2ginger. In addition a battery patch must be flashed after every rom for full charging. For red lens only battery patch has to be flashed.
None of the above applies to cm10 and later.
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I tried replacing the bootmenu folder with different apps, but all got some "Operation failed!" or "Error with files" in itself, so I also tried to replace some of the files 1 by 1, they still failed. So that could be the reason why the zip won't flash properly... Maybe some safety option somewhere in CM9??? My phone can't seem to handle the recovery zips, only the 2ndinit apk. Very strange!

That must be done from recovery. I recall helping someone replace the recovery using a flashable zip because only a legacy recovery worked for him. I think it was zer0-gravity. Check my posts on that.
Replacing the recovery files with twrp ones in the zip I had made on that thread should with hopefully.
Also, your problems indicate file system errors, and I'll advise you to flash a different(higher) sbf, since that has in the past worked out well, for me and others. Beyond this point I'm out of ideas.
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That must be done from recovery. I recall helping someone replace the recovery using a flashable zip because only a legacy recovery worked for him. I think it was zer0-gravity. Check my posts on that
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another fast question. i recover my phone using the JORDN_U3_97.21.51 method, after that i have to do a root, nandroid, then instantly flash a fixed sbf (firmware.sbf...). its cuz i got the phone 2nd hand, and he f-ed up smth upgrading to gingerbread or so... can it be the root of my problem?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14762402&postcount=143

Why do you need a fixed sbf? After rooting try directly 2ndinit. Don't restore nandroid. Also, root using framaroot since its much easier and faster. You can jump from 2.1 to
2ndboot directly.
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Why do you need a fixed sbf? After rooting try directly 2ndinit
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Cuz' my mb525 got flashed a GB sbf accidentally, from which you can't downgrade (by its user before me), and you can only recover it from éclair via the method i linked. other sbf's wont work

Ok, so when you flash the first sbf, and root, what stops you from directly using 2ndboot at that point
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thekguy said:
Ok, so when you flash the first sbf, and root, what stops you from directly using 2ndboot at that point
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It just won't install, with status 0 or 7.
But right now I grew tired of this problem and i will flash a DFP 231.sbf from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1542956
I will follow these steps. Can i do that? (MB525 Red Lens)
edit: 4.5.1-134 DFP-231 Retail.en.EU CEE

Yes. Flash that and root with framaroot.
Don't follow the guide for rooting, just flash dfp 231 , if it hangs on moto wipe data and cache from stock, and use framaroot.
Depending on eu or cee you've flashed, you may require a kernel to boot successfully with 2ndboot roms(otherwise you will just hang even after waiting a lot). It can be found in the defy custom kernel thread in General
Best of luck
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