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Debian working niceley on Desire.

Debian for Desire.
If you are able to try this on another android device, please do as I will be very interested in the results.
Download
http://www.multiupload.com/79TSI1AAF9
You will need.
-Root access.
-Busybox (included in most custom roms)
-1.4gig free on SDCARD
-VNC Client (ie. AndroidVNC)
-Terminal Emulator (ie. ConnectBot)
-7zip
Instructions
-Extract the file deSIREbian.7z on your PC using 7zip.
-Copy the contents (debian.img and deboot) to root directory of SDCARD.
-On your phone in terminal emulator type
su
sh /sdcard/deboot
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You should get a blank screen showing "localhost:/#" after a couple of seconds.
-On your phone in your VNC client log in using these details
Password - password
Port - 5901
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Nickname and Address are not needed, call it what you want though.
Changing the colour to 24bit and enabling local mouse pointer and full screen bit map are not neccesary but reccomended.
-Thats it.
Notes.
-You can log in via ssh, (gives a much better terminal, ie works properly with aptitude). Use [email protected] and password "toor"
-The version of Debian is Armel Lenny, installed using debootstrap.
-It is just the base package with LXDE on top, you only get a desktop, a file browser, an internet browser, and a pic viewer.
-If you want more packages there's tonnes of room on the image. eg apt-get install openoffice.org or apt-get install abiword or apt-get install any flipping thing u want
-You can access the SDCARD from Debian at "root/sdcard" (read-write)
-You can access Debian filesystem from Android (When Debian is running) at "sdcard/debian" (read only)
-debian.img is mounted at "sdcard/debian" using "dev/block/loop5"
-So far the only rom i have come accross that this dont work with is one of the cyanogen nightlies from last week. apart from that, working on opendesire, cyanogen, defrost, leedroid, official 2.2 with busybox...
Issues.
Debian cannot be shut down. You need to reboot the phone to do this. (You can kill the VNC server with "vncserver -kill :1" there is an icon on the festoons to do this.)
Update log.
deSIREbain.
-First release.
deSIREbain2
Fixed
-Loading a second terminal no longer breaks vnc.
-You no longer need to create the folder debian on sdcard.
Added
-ssh server (login with root and toor)
Removed.
-The image has been downsized from 2 gig to 1.4

Hey,
thank you for your work, i will test it so far and will tell you the results
got this error:
Code:
# su
su
# sh /sdcard/deboot
sh /sdcard/deboot
mount: No such file or directory
mount: No such file or directory
mount: No such file or directory
mount: No such file or directory
mount: mounting /sdcard on /sdcard/debian/root/sdcard failed: No such file or di
rectory
net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1
chroot: can't change root directory to /sdcard/debian: No such file or directory
#
If you have the same problems try out
su
mkdir /sdcard/debian
losetup /dev/block/loop3 /sdcard/debian.img
mount -t ext2 /dev/block/loop3 /sdcard/debian
ls /sdcard/debian
thx to mercianary for help
greetings

I found this guide quite helpful at getting a bootstrapped Debian setup running.
http://www.saurik.com/id/10
I didn't need to insert the ext2 module as it's already loaded for me, I guess G1s didn't have that convenience back then.

blackstoneuser5 said:
I found this guide quite helpful at getting a bootstrapped Debian setup running.
www . saurik.com/id/10
I didn't need to insert the ext2 module as it's already loaded for me, I guess G1s didn't have that convenience back then.
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I used parts of this for reference too. Its a great guide, explains things really well.

i've just updated this. link is in the first post.
Fixed
-Loading a second terminal no longer breaks vnc.
-You no longer need to create the folder debian on sdcard.
Added
-ssh server (login with root and toor)
Removed.
-The image has been downsized from 2 gig to 1.4

debian for desire--help please
hi
I spent much time for searching debian or ubuntu for desire, but nothin worked
know i found this and i have download everything and start to install over the terminal
but the " sh /sdcard/deboot" is not workin to
there's only this answer:
# su
su
# sh /sdcard/deboot
sh /sdcard/deboot
[: not found
losetup: not found
mount: No such file or directory
mount: No such file or directory
mount: No such file or directory
mount: No such file or directory
busybox: not found
sysctl: not found
chroot: not found
may somebody help me?
i really want to have it on the desire
thanks

It looks like you had not installed busybox
Which ROM do you use ?

oh i'm sorry
i'm a newbie and don't really know what a rom is
but i had problems with busybox and there was a somebody who said i can get the app titanium and let it install the busybox

could you please show me a tut how to install busybox
maybe a german tut
thanks

Getting error at: sh /sdcard/deboot
line 5: syntax error near unexpected token `else'

Rosi1337 said:
Getting error at: sh /sdcard/deboot
line 5: syntax error near unexpected token `else'
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dont know why that happened.. works on mine. syntax looks ok to me.
try with this one (attatched), it's the same but without the bit that's not working for you.
what rom are you using, i shall try to replicate the error so I can try to fix properly.

thepuechen said:
could you please show me a tut how to install busybox
maybe a german tut
thanks
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There should be a guide on installing busybox somewhere if you want to search for it, i know i remember seeing one a while ago.
Too be honest, your better off just flashing a rom that includes busybox, it would be MUCH easier.
have a look here and see what takes your fancy, I would recomend defrost, because it is stable and easy to overclock.

Thanks mercianary,
It works fine!,
I use customised DeFroST_0.9b_uvonly with USB-host patch.
By the way I would like to add more options to kernel line.
Where can I find like a menu.lst file ? or How to add it to kernel line.
There is no /dev/graphics/* in running Debian console.
I would like to use FrameBuffer on running Debian.
thanks,

Android VNC won't connect Trying to get a handshake, but then says that VNC connection failed

please paste at that time log
jacobtc said:
Android VNC won't connect Trying to get a handshake, but then says that VNC connection failed
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Please paste at that time log.
Maybe vnc server does not running.

tknv said:
Thanks mercianary,
It works fine!,
I use customised DeFroST_0.9b_uvonly with USB-host patch.
By the way I would like to add more options to kernel line.
Where can I find like a menu.lst file ? or How to add it to kernel line.
There is no /dev/graphics/* in running Debian console.
I would like to use FrameBuffer on running Debian.
thanks,
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You should understand that this is not a really booted native linux. Instead you are working in a chroot environment. So there is no kernel running that can get parameters. Only the the stock kernel of your DeFroST. Also there is no FrameBuffer as the graphic hardware ist not accessible. Instead this approach uses a vnc-server to which you can connect via a local viewer.
The advantage of this approach is clear:
- run almost any linux package available in the debian repository
- use your phone as before with the nice android
The disadvantage:
- no graphic output, so no 3D-games (which are rare under linux on the arm platform ;-)
- you can crash your android by eating up to much ram (not such a problem - it restarts on its own and if not you just have to reboot)

Thread is dead?
It seems this thread is dead. The problems many users seem to have come from a dirty setup. The image is broken in many terms:
- wrong file permissions on important binaries, like su
- wrong file permissions on many device files under /dev, so the ttys are only accessible by root
- wrong permissions on other places so there are always errors when installing additonal software (e.g. with the man pages)
- wrong setup that uses the root user for the desktop - instead an unprivileged user should be used
- missing packages for timezones and locales so the time is only right, if you are in a UTC region and console programs having trouble displaying anything else then plain english
I can not recommend using this setup image. It is better to use one of the instructions available online to get a clean setup.

Su doesn't work because your allready root.
Getting anything but root to work would be a real pain.
As you said its a chroot environment, its never going to be perfect.
The image was made using debootstrap just like all the other 'clean' ones.
Yep, it is broken as hell, but it works for what most people would need it for...make,gcc,python,a proper web browser,torrents, and some emergency word processing on the train to work.
The problem most people have is not being able to mount the image, this is due to fro-yo a2sd taking up all the loop devices.

Just thought I'd add my 2 cents.
I tried this on a MIUI rom and the scripy didnt do anything - ie i ran it using:
"# sh /sdcard/deboot"
.....and all it said was:
"#"
I entered all the lines in the shell script but the last one said it failed to launch VLC and no commands registered property (not even ls)
So i tried it on Defrost 5.1, and the script still didn't work.
But when i entered everything manually, it did work. Not too sure about the green theme though.
But thanks alot! Saves me spending a few hours trying to coax a working debootstrap out of my computer.
Thanks!
Josh.

mercianary said:
Su doesn't work because your allready root.
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Nope. Actually su works only for root. It's missing the setuid root flag like all other binaries that should have it set.
mercianary said:
Getting anything but root to work would be a real pain.
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Nope. I am always working as a normal, unprivileged user in my chroot. You just have to be in the proper groups. No need to work as root. Android works also with an unprivileged user.
mercianary said:
As you said its a chroot environment, its never going to be perfect.
The image was made using debootstrap just like all the other 'clean' ones.
Yep, it is broken as hell, but it works for what most people would need it for...make,gcc,python,a proper web browser,torrents, and some emergency word processing on the train to work.
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This is what I do not understand. There is no need that it is broken, as mine works without any errors. So I think something went wrong in creating yours. For sure a chroot is no running OS but you can server almost any service with it and run anything you want (if your ram does not get exhausted ;-).
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The problem most people have is not being able to mount the image, this is due to fro-yo a2sd taking up all the loop devices.
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Yes. Everyone with a good rom should have a2sd+ (aka the old a2sd) which saves more space than the froyo one and leaves your loop devices for you.
jo

Tested cifs.ko and nls_utf8.ko (from factory kernel)

Just for interested people, I have compiled cifs.ko and nls_utf8.ko from US version SGHI897 kernel (from samsung opensource website). This package has been tested under JF6, (out-of-box settings, but rooted). Key notes:
0. mount with -o iocharset=utf8, -t cifs
1. use "busybox" to do "mv or cp or mount or umount"
2. use direct "#" prompt to do "insmod"
3. better use GScript after you have tested these ko's

hiway123 said:
Just for interested people, I have compiled cifs.ko and nls_utf8.ko from US version SGHI897 kernel (from samsung opensource website). This package has been tested under JF6, (out-of-box settings, but rooted). Key notes:
0. mount with -o iocharset=utf8, -t cifs
1. use "busybox" to do "mv or cp or mount or umount"
2. use direct "#" prompt to do "insmod"
3. better use GScript after you have tested these ko's
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I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, other than it means someone's gonna come up with SOMETHING new to play with here....... =)

techmik67 said:
I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, other than it means someone's gonna come up with SOMETHING new to play with here....... =)
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coz, from searching the forum, there is no cifs and utf8 support for captivate. The first is used when using captivate to mount remote windows share folders. In other words, you can use rockplayer on captivate to browser media files on windows desktop. For some reasons, there could be encoding problem to view these media files' names, such as asian characters. Then the second one is needed.

hiway123 said:
coz, from searching the forum, there is no cifs and utf8 support for captivate. The first is used when using captivate to mount remote windows share folders. In other words, you can use rockplayer on captivate to browser media files on windows desktop. For some reasons, there could be encoding problem to view these media files, such as asian characters. Then the second one is needed.
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I can definitely see why UTF8 is important, though I have no idea what to do with these files to be honest. also, linux-based system that doesn't support UTF8, really?

Kaik541 said:
I can definitely see why UTF8 is important, though I have no idea what to do with these files to be honest. also, linux-based system that doesn't support UTF8, really?
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Don't quite understand your meaning, sorry. But anyway, just for interested people...

the module works great thanks for your effort.

network pimp... android novice.
hiway123, i pulled down your make of cifs.ko; loaded it in a network folder on my ext sdcard, but am not sure what to do now. (insmod, etc)
I attempted a few mount commands, and a few other linux norm paths, but I think I am lost here. Can you give a 1, 2, step of how to run the mount command? your post was rather cryptic. (i know i know, for the interested only! well definitely interested...)
*Note* I downloaded this nifty app: CIFSmanager app from the market, and it is open enough that it allows for the user to direct path for the cifs module (insmod path) to the file you compiled (again which is now on my sdcard) it seemed to be happy with it, but gave me some other error I believe had something to do with it not being root. (phone is rooted, have several apps with root level access... however haven't yet figured out how to run certain individual apps as root, that don't automatically try to obtain root access. blah blah blah, another project.)
anyhoot - i would love to be able to mount a vfs on this bird! had the captivate for about a month and love'n it! I got tons of media I'd like to stream over the network and found a few nice apps (ARCmedia / rocket, etc.) that i tested (direct copy to sd) and played my .flv files just fine! :-D
now all i need to do it trick the system into thinking my network paths are mounted resources. (Everything else works well, I can access network shares, view pictures, docs, standard video that the default video player can play fine.) So next step is to learn what YOU know.
sorry for the long post! - th x

tucxforever said:
hiway123, i pulled down your make of cifs.ko; loaded it in a network folder on my ext sdcard, but am not sure what to do now. (insmod, etc)
I attempted a few mount commands, and a few other linux norm paths, but I think I am lost here. Can you give a 1, 2, step of how to run the mount command? your post was rather cryptic. (i know i know, for the interested only! well definitely interested...)
*Note* I downloaded this nifty app: CIFSmanager app from the market, and it is open enough that it allows for the user to direct path for the cifs module (insmod path) to the file you compiled (again which is now on my sdcard) it seemed to be happy with it, but gave me some other error I believe had something to do with it not being root. (phone is rooted, have several apps with root level access... however haven't yet figured out how to run certain individual apps as root, that don't automatically try to obtain root access. blah blah blah, another project.)
anyhoot - i would love to be able to mount a vfs on this bird! had the captivate for about a month and love'n it! I got tons of media I'd like to stream over the network and found a few nice apps (ARCmedia / rocket, etc.) that i tested (direct copy to sd) and played my .flv files just fine! :-D
now all i need to do it trick the system into thinking my network paths are mounted resources. (Everything else works well, I can access network shares, view pictures, docs, standard video that the default video player can play fine.) So next step is to learn what YOU know.
sorry for the long post! - th x
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I have a samba server in LAN, say at 192.168.1.1. So, I do these steps:
1. unzip my package to your computer, there are two ko files. Then use USB cable to transfer these two files to your phone in /sdcard folder.
2. on the phone, I used "terminal emulator", run "su" into root mode, make new folders like "busybox mkdir /system/lib/modules", you may try other directory name, I don't think that does a matter. Move the two ko files from /sdcard to this newly created folder, remember to use "busybox mv" command.
3. create a mount point on your phone, "mkdir /sdcard/smb" for example. or "busybox mkdir" I cannot remember.
4. insert modules, using "insmod /system/lib/modules/cifs.ko" and "insmod /system/lib/modules/nls_utf8.ko", remember these commands must be run everytime after you reboot your phone, so I use Gscript to create a shortcut, it's very convenient.
5. mount server's samba share folder in the phone, using "busybox mount -t cifs //192.168.1.1/your_share_folder /sdcard/smb -v -o user=yourusername,pass=yourpasswd,iocharset=utf8".
6. now, you can use rockplayer to browse into /sdcard/smb on your phone to view what is shared.
7. It is better to umount your folder once you finish transferring files. Then simply do "busybox umount /sdcard/smb".
Actually, only commands 5-7 are needed after your first attempt. Of course, if you have not done step 4 after a reboot, you need to do that step as well. I use Gscript in market to create shortcuts to these 4-7 commands. That's more convenient instead of typing on such small screen.

Have you tried this with any of the Custom ROMs in this section? If so, which ones work? Can you tell me how to compile a CIFS.KO?
Can it be compiled against the ROMs supplied here?
Thanks in advance,

Freaking brilliant, was exactly what I was looking for...thanks OP!
*edit*
Should mention, I used the posted .KO with stock rogers rom (i896) and it seems to be working flawlessly from my testing so far. I've even been able to stream some lower bitrate HD video and have it run smoothly and consistantly

insmod: init_module '/system/lib/modules/cifs.ko' failed (Exec format error)
something wrong?
i use SetiroN's kernel... and I9000 Froyo - maybe that is the reason?

Id assume that the kernel you are using isn't compatible and the module will have to be compiled for it.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I896

love the rom just wish had few diff tweaks

[Q] Mounting a Network Attached Storage drive to Kindle fire

Hello, I'm trying to mount my university's network drive known as netfiles to my kindle fire either through an app or some other means.
Here are the specifications of such a drive:
These files are stored on a network attached storage (NAS) platform known as "NetFiles." NetFiles utilizes the SMB/CIFS protocol to provide shared access to networked storage, allowing both Windows and Mac users to store and share files with one another."
Now I have done this on my PC laptop rather easily before but I am unsure of how I would go about doing so for my android kindle fire, which is Linux based I suppose?
They provided the following:
For reference the method for Windows is:
After you login to the University network [both my laptop and kindle fire are logged into the university network], NetFiles can be reached via this path (Click Start > Run in WinXP or Start > Start Search field in Windows Vista/7): \\netfiles\users\<letter>\<netid> where <letter> is the first letter of your <netid>.
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and
I'm a Linux user, how do I mount my NetFiles volume?
With this command from the shell (logged in as the "root" user):
smbmount //netfiles/users netfiles -o username=<netid> workgroup=richmond
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Now I've accessed the shell before using adb and my kindle is rooted so that does look possible but I won't be able to try that for at least another day as I left my cable somewhere else.
HOWEVER, the school does offer access even when not on the network or offcampus through VPN. And they provide a downloadable VPN profile for me to use and configure. So I guess my last overall questions are:
1. Should I consider the Kindle Fire OS to be Linux based when looking for general methods for such things?
2. Should the provided method with shell and root access work?
3. Are there any VPN Client apps of note that I should look for?

Install File Expert to get on SMB shares. Always has worked great for me.

The Kindle Fire is Android-based, which is Linux-based. Install busybox and many of the commands should work. You can also install something like ConnectBot if you don't want to wait until you have access to adb and a cable.
As for mounting the network share, I'm not sure if smbmount is installed. Using an app like CIFS Manager would be easier (you need either a custom kernel or the cifs kernel mods, both available on this forum, and be sure to put a .nomedia file somewhere so a poorly written app doesn't attempt to scan the whole remote share). An alternative is to use something like Ghost Commander or the aforementioned File Expert to browse the shares.
For VPNs, it depends on the type of VPN. OpenVPN can be downloaded (also needs a tun kernel mod or custom kernel). PPTP is part of stock android, and it'd probably be easier to use cyanogen mod if you need to use it.

I connect to my NAS (and also my pc) with ES File Explorer. It uses SMB. I just select NEW>Server and put in the ip address (actually just the name of my unRAID server) and hit connect. It works great. Once you set up the server it saves the ip address or name and you just select LAN, pick what you want to connect to and BLAM you are connected.

using ES File Explorer - can i use a video player of my choice? I understand there are video players that can play several format videos (just cant remember which ones)...

I think FileExpert's built-in player might be able to stream from a network share (last I checked only one file explorer had that feature). If you want to stream with any media player, use CIFS Manager. If you want to copy the video to your Kindle Fire then play it locally, any of the file explorers listed will do.

izomiac said:
I think FileExpert's built-in player might be able to stream from a network share (last I checked only one file explorer had that feature). If you want to stream with any media player, use CIFS Manager. If you want to copy the video to your Kindle Fire then play it locally, any of the file explorers listed will do.
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+1 on CIFS Manager, especially if you want to use specific apps for certain file types. Here's the guide to set it up on the Kindle.

https://lh6.ggpht.com/xAPu77wHdSLx_uyQ_GKTiKNB21h4t_jZMtq0LGDxRTPxEu12Eo4nyItN5M5ycwiMBvKS
I can't figure out what IP I'm supposed to be putting for this, as its not something from my actual computer but my University network, to which both my laptop and kindle fire are connected.

Actually my friend brought back my cable!
Here's the problem
when not adb rooted, I lack the permissions after entering shell to do the following:
smbmount //netfiles/users netfiles -o username=<mynetid> workgroup=richmond
But when I retry with adb root I get a # instead of a $ and it does not recognize the command smbmount.
Is there anything I'm doing wrong?

qryptiq said:
using ES File Explorer - can i use a video player of my choice? I understand there are video players that can play several format videos (just cant remember which ones)...
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Yes, I forgot to mention I needed to use MX Video player with ES File Explorer to stream video.

im gonna give it another go and see if i can get any further

You shouldn't have to put an IP address in, the hostname ought to work. It also looks like smbmount is mostly depreciated by mount.cifs, which you call with "mount -t cifs" (this is what CIFS Manager does behind the scenes).

i have been using es file explorer to connect to all my SMB shares. and using moboplayer to open videos stored on those smb shares. works awesome.
moboplayer:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.clov4r.android.nil
es file explorer:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.estrongs.android.pop

matthew.fiore said:
i have been using es file explorer to connect to all my SMB shares. and using moboplayer to open videos stored on those smb shares. works awesome.
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You are streaming without cifs mounting and injecting the kernal module? I HAVE to use cifs to stream otherwise it would copy the videos over the network first.

I'm starting to think the adb shell method didn't work because I didn't realize that my device OTA updated to 6.2.2 and I lost root.

izomiac said:
You shouldn't have to put an IP address in, the hostname ought to work. It also looks like smbmount is mostly depreciated by mount.cifs, which you call with "mount -t cifs" (this is what CIFS Manager does behind the scenes).
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i dont even know what the hostname should be...i have all of the information i need i feel i just dont know where to put it...

If the smbmount command was "smbmount //netfiles/users netfiles -o username=<mynetid> workgroup=richmond" then your share path is "//netfiles/users" and the mount point is a directory of your choosing. Username/Password should be self explanatory. Options might be necessary after you get it setup if you find that only the root user can browse the directory or something.

I think this clears things up, I'll try this later tonight.

[Solved] 2+ Kindle Fires on Same Wifi Router Disrupt Each Other

Me and my best friend both have Kindle Fires now. I rooted & flashed the latest MIUI onto both of them successfully over the past week, so we're running the latest version available. What we've found is that when we both try to attach to his wireless router, they seem to disrupt each other or confused the router and eventually our wifi goes bye-bye on our Kindles. When just one of us is trying to attach to his router, it goes through fine & seems to stay connected well without any issue.
Can anyone offer any recommendations on how to perhaps customize the wifi connection on either the Fire or the wifi router to try and resolve this issue?
Thanks much for your help in advance! Please ask any questions if I left out any details that could help : ]

Does MIUI have the MAC address problem? That'd be the first place I'd check. THen I'd check the router and see exactly what they're trying to do. My thoughts:
Either they have the same MAC, same name, or are vying for the same IP.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1406845

Thanks for the feedback, guys! And thank for that related thread link! I reviewed that post and I have to admit, I'm a lil lost with where to start or what to do with that. I have a feeling both devices may be running the same MAC address, but I'm in the process of confirming that today. I also tried forcing a static IP on the Fire when connecting, but that didn't seem to resolve the problem.
Anyone have any, dare I say, more simple instructions for how I might go about altering my devices MAC address with MIUI? I'm not sure that the information in that post is fully applicable to the MIUI rom, so I'm hesitant to begin trying to give it a go, and plus, I might need something a little more noob-friendly... I could use a little more handle-holding with this, as I'm fairly fresh to rooting & flashing ROMs (but fairly computer literate).

look at post #24 in the linked thread - seems to be a easier solution

Oh, thanks! ... That does look much more manageable Now to just figure out where to get the file from the stock ROM and replace it. I did a backup of my stock stuff via TWRP prior to flashing MIUI, so does anyone know where I can locate this file from the stock amazon ROM after I've completed a backup of stock via TWRP?
I then assume that after locating the stock version of the file, that I would just replace the file in the root directory/system/bin right on the Kindle when it's attached to my PC via USB.
Yah.. I'm a noob, but trying! : \
Stock file I need to find: /system/bin/wlan_loader

there is one attached 2 or 3 posts after #24 - that should do it for your needs

Great! Thanks again!!!
This part of the post gets me a little lost. I assume I need to purchase & download Root Explorer ($3.99 in Market). As for performing the same thing this person did, I'm not quite sure how to go about doing that. One question I have is: Is Root Explorer absolutely necessary to perform this file replacement? It seems a little more involved than just simply replacing the file on the device while it is plugged in to my PC via USB.
I used root explorer, mounted as r/w, made a copy of the original JIC, overwrote the existing file within /system/bin and modified the permissions to appear as the original (rwxr-xr-x) rebooted leaving the system as r/w
Sure enough mac address is the same as when I was in 6.1 Kindle Fire OS.
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Specifically, here are the things I'm not 100% clear on:
1) 'mounted as r/w' - I assume this means mounting as read/write; is this performed via Root Explorer?
2) 'made a copy of the original JIC' - I do not understand what is meant by 'JIC'
3) Can file permission changes as described above be performed in Root Explorer?
I greatly appreciate any insight! This appears to be the solution to my problem, not it's just a matter of execution on my part. Thanks, guys!

would use file explorer from the market - no cost and does the same
if you activate "root explorer" and "mount as root" in the settings all at the bottom
here the link:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.estrongs.android.pop&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5lc3Ryb25ncy5hbmRyb2lkLnBvcCJd
1) 'mounted as r/w' - I assume this means mounting as read/write; is this performed via Root Explorer?
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file explorer does this with the above settings automatically
2) 'made a copy of the original JIC' - I do not understand what is meant by 'JIC'
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would mean he means the file to exchange
3) Can file permission changes as described above be performed in Root Explorer?
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you can also do with file explorer - long tap on file - properties - change permission

Awesome - b63 - you're excellent
Ummmm... But I have to ask a really stupid question. I can't seem to find the /system directory on my Fire. I already had ES File Explorer... and I'm in it now, and I can only look around on my SD card it seems... Is the /system directory on the main internal storage of the device, or on the 'SD card?' Any help in finding this directory on my device would be appreciated! Sorry for the nooby questions n such

are the root settings made in the settings of es ?
then you can set your start directory to / somewhere in the settings
or simply go one directory up
when you are on / then you see the system directory like all the others (sdcard also)

OK... I'M SO CLOSE!
I got up to the root directory ( / ) and found the /system/bin directory... I have the new (well, old stock version) wlan_loader file from the linked thread that I downloaded on my Kindle on the SDCard ready to overwrite the existing file.
I definitely have Root Explorer on in ES File Explorer - it prompted me to allow and I did every time it asked. I then tried to copy the stock version of the file over my current version in /system/bin, but it said that the copy failed. I then went and tried to delete the existing file in /system/bin, but it said something like 'this file cannot be deleted' I'm not sure what is keeping the file locked. Do I need to modify the permissions of the file to be writable or something?
I hard-pressed on the file and tried to play around with it, but the only close option I have is 'Properties,' which didn't seem to allow me to change anything about the file though. So, I'm stuck : \ Help!?

OK, I got it! I didn't flip the 'Mount /, /system as writable option after switching on Root Explorer :\ My bad! But I was able to overlay the file now Let's test my MAC address now after rebooting.

looks promising ...

GET-R-DONE!
Yahoo! I got it!
I rebooted and everything seems to be functioning just fine - I'm connected to Wifi like normal, no big deal... AND, my MAC address is totally different than what it was before, so I think this did the trick!
Now to test it concurrently with my best friend's Kindle to ensure we can sit on the same network / router together. If it doesn't work, then I'll look to replace his wlan_loader file as well
Thanks for all your persistent assistance b63! I really appreciate it : ]
Was fun, and I learned a lot : ]

but take care if you change his one as well not to end up with the same mac again ...
and as allways - glad to help ...
please mark the subject of the topic (edit first post) with [Solved]

Ultimate guide to get Ubuntu and Busybox on your samsung galaxy tab 10.1

this is an easy pease guide to install Ubuntu with working Busybox on your samsung galaxy Tab 10.1
Requirements:
A rooted device (there are lots op threads on xda on how to root your 10.1)
after rooting download Ubuntu installer Free
the second app you need to download is busybox installer
and third you will need to download and install android-vnc you will need this to view the ubuntu after instalation
and then last but not least you can download a overclocking kernel to make things work smoother. there is a thread in xda about this.
and then download the setcpu.apk file. search it on google.
If you have any trouble finding the correct apps and kernels please post in your reply and I will give you the links to the kernels I am using uploaded by myself for you to download
Okay so lets get this party started
okay so after rooting your device install the Ubuntu Installer Free and follow the promts. it is an easy to use app which guides you to 3 downloads. the first download is the ubuntu.sh file. and then there are two links to download the ubuntu image. If you want a light (not good looking) version of ubuntu download the smaller image (the second option of the downloads).
If you want the gnome (sexy looking ubuntu) download the third option.
while you are downloading the files GO AHEAD and install the BusyBox installer app. then choose the 1.18.4 version and install it into you system/bin directory. it will give you the directory in a list to choose. once thats done install the same version again but in the system/xbin directory.
while you wait for ubuntu installer to download the images for you go ahead and search for that nifty overclock kernel. make sure IT IS NOT the one from zedomax because then you will have no screen rotate ability. look for an overclock kernel that has ov_oa in its description. once again post in this thread if you are having troubles and i will upload my kernel.
So after ubuntu installer has downloaded files go ahead and extract them into the /sdcard/ubuntu folder (you will have to create the folder)
after you have extracted the files into /sdcard/ubuntu folder (this directory is in the root of your tab. you do not have to create a folder in the root saying /sdcard/ubuntu. you can just make a folder named Ubuntu and drop the files in there.
so after plainc the files into the Ubuntu folder go to you terminal on your device. if you dont have a terminal you can download it from the market for free. its called android terminal.
in the terminal tipe the following
su
cd /sdcard/ubuntu
sh ubuntu.sh
if you have correct busybox installed you will get a prompt that asks you for the screen size. make the screen size 1280x800
then IF it gives you a choise between lightlinux or Gnome. select option 2. gnome
after that done open android vnc and set the following
name: ubi
password: ubuntu
adress: localhost
port: 5900
and then select connect.
and congratulations. everything was perfect. if not. pm me or reply in this thread for support.

Have you test it on Galaxy Tab 8.9

Hi. it will work on the galaxy Tab 8.9. just follow the same steps and make sure your device is rooted. as for the overclocking on the 8.9 I am not sure what the steps are

Was just wondering how much space does an installation like that take up? And will an Ubuntu install like that actually support everything that "normal" Ubuntu does (for instance compiling python, c, etc. on the device?). What about programs that work with Ubuntu on a PC, will they work on the Tab as well?

it takes up to 4gig of your storage. the ubuntu for the tab is ubuntu 10 Gnome. so everything works as normal ubuntu 10 would work. python and all those compiling programs will work. if you connect a mouse and keyboard to you tab it would work the same way as it would on a pc.

llewelyn12 said:
it takes up to 4gig of your storage. the ubuntu for the tab is ubuntu 10 Gnome. so everything works as normal ubuntu 10 would work. python and all those compiling programs will work. if you connect a mouse and keyboard to you tab it would work the same way as it would on a pc.
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Nice, will give it a try to see if I can get some of my pygame projects to work (just for the kicks of it) .
I'm guessing you can't use the virtual keyboard with it though right? You need a hardware one? Or maybe, you could download a virtual keyboard for Ubuntu and see if that works ... hmm ... testing time! ^_^
PS: Do you know which desktop environment is used in the light version? Since I have the 16GB tab and I'd mostly use linux through the command prompt to program some basic stuff etc. I wouldn't really need a good desktop interface, just enough to run some graphic stuff when needed. Plus a lightweight DE would run faster

there is an awesome virtual keyboard you can download its called florence. it look ssexy and works good for me.but i stil prefer the manual keyboard.

Check out this pic. It gives an on screen keyboard
Sent from my GT-P7500 using XDA

Does the touchscreen work alright? I remember the native port had troubles with it.

Okay, after a bit of testing I thought I'd share my findings.
The installation was really simple, even though I had problems at first due to a wrong Busybox version - but I downgraded to 1.18.4 and it worked just fine.
I've tried both the "full" install and the "small" one. Both installed without problems, but the "full" one noticeably slower, even when running LXDE desktop environment. Guess that's one of the prices you have to pay for a system with way more applications. Apart from being kinda slow, mostly everything worked fine, the only problem I found was that if you wanted to change the background color of the terminal (the transparent thing wasn't doing it for me) it crashed. Otherwise I've tried out firefox, thunderbird etc. and it all worked fine.
On the "small" install, things seemed faster, CPU/memory was definitely stressed much less then in the full version. But, I ran into a quite big problem - terminals inside the GUI don't work at all. Everytime I run the lxterminal (tried installing some other terminals too, same problem) it starts up, but doesn't do anything. It doesn't even show the usual prompt (for instance "[email protected]>" or something like that). That means you can't run any terminal commands or apps (like top) through the GUI. You CAN however, run apt-get install through the terminal emulator you used to start the whole thing up.
So I worked around the problem by installing stuff from the terminal emulator, then trying it out in the GUI. It works, but it's definitely a real setback, since you can't even do simple stuff like "python test.py" etc. (well, you can through the terminal emulator in android, but then you're limited to text stuff, can't start up tkinter or pygame for instance).
I've managed to run a simple game made in pygame, and it actually had around 20 fps, but since you're looking at it through android-vnc, there's no way for stuff like that to be playable. Felt nice to see your python work on android, especially if you're not on good terms with Java .
I'd also recommend setting the resolution to something smaller, since you have to take the status bar into account - if you don't do that, you'll have to "scroll" up and down to see the whole screen - I've settled on 1280x720, seems to work fine for me.
Another problem I've noticed is that the Esc, F1, F2, ..., F12 keys didn't work inside linux (I'm using an Apple Wireless keyboard). Also, I couldn't play any music files (wanted to see if voice was working).
I'll definitely play around with this a bit more, and I can see myself using this (probably directly through the android terminal emulator, since it detects all my keyboard keys and has auto-completion etc.) for some non graphical programming in Python and C on the move, even without a hardware keyboard it's manageable.
What about anyone else? Did you try it out and what did you think? Anyone has any solutions to my terminal and special keys problem?
PS: Touchscreen doesn't have any problems, you have a few different input modes that you can play around, I haven't found one that would suit me perfectly though (the one I like best can't right click it seems). Ah well, nothing's perfect

Wow man, thanks for your feedback and support! there is a keyboard you can download inside software centre that gives you all the cool keys you would need. but seeing that you cannot use the lxterminal it pretty useless. ill see what I can find out about that but in the meantime thanks a lot for the feedback

nightmarebadger said:
Nice, will give it a try to see if I can get some of my pygame projects to work (just for the kicks of it) .
I'm guessing you can't use the virtual keyboard with it though right? You need a hardware one? Or maybe, you could download a virtual keyboard for Ubuntu and see if that works ... hmm ... testing time! ^_^
PS: Do you know which desktop environment is used in the light version? Since I have the 16GB tab and I'd mostly use linux through the command prompt to program some basic stuff etc. I wouldn't really need a good desktop interface, just enough to run some graphic stuff when needed. Plus a lightweight DE would run faster
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I don't have the tablet (yet-hopefully gonna get one soon) but I'd suggest trying e17 (enlightenment) as your desktop environment. It is lightweight (at least compared to GNOME and KDE), IMO it looks nicer than other lightweight DE's (though the default mouse navigation style is not typical) and it has a touchscreen option/version/interface (don't exactly know what to call it). I have never tried the touchscreen version, but I have seen some screenshots and when I tried it out on a regular computer it asked if I want the touchscreen UI or the normal one. AFAIK it has its own onscreen keyboard (haven't tried it). I'm pretty sure gnome has one as well (somewhere in accessibility)

nightmarebadger said:
Okay, after a bit of testing I thought I'd share my findings.
The installation was really simple, even though I had problems at first due to a wrong Busybox version - but I downgraded to 1.18.4 and it worked just fine....
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Badger, thanks for the mention of downgrading to 1.18.4. Thanks sent to you and the OP
I got it to run fine on my E4GT phone using 1.19.4 but it did not want to work on the Tab. I found that the following apps worked best on my Tab:
1. BusyBox (by Stephen Stericson) - just run this and even if you have 1.19.4 just use the drop down to select 1.18.4 and it will copy over it for you.
(Do not use the uninstall option as it is not needed and can cause problems)
2. Android Terminal Emulator (by Jack Palevich)
3. android-vnc-viewer (by androidVNC team + antlersoft)
Other apps may work but I have found the combination of these 3 to get ubuntu running on my Tab10 just fine.
btw Badger... I am with you 100% on not being on good terms with java

Graphics problem
I've installed this on my Samsung Galaxy Tab 8.9. I seem to have it operating OK but the graphics seem to not be working. The icons on the left are a black and white blur. I have changed the colour format to all of the different settings and no luck - any ideas? Thanks.

Permission Denied
When trying to bootubuntu I keep getting permission denied. I was skipping the su step, as I was following someone elses instructions, and I am now getting farther, but still permission denied at bootunbuntu. I haven't tried a linux flavor since red hat almost 10 years ago, and I was no guru then, so I'm sure whatever I'm missing will be rediculous...

wat kernel
llewelyn12 said:
this is an easy pease guide to install Ubuntu with working Busybox on your samsung galaxy Tab 10.1
Requirements:
A rooted device (there are lots op threads on xda on how to root your 10.1)
after rooting download Ubuntu installer Free
the second app you need to download is busybox installer
and third you will need to download and install android-vnc you will need this to view the ubuntu after instalation
and then last but not least you can download a overclocking kernel to make things work smoother. there is a thread in xda about this.
and then download the setcpu.apk file. search it on google.
If you have any trouble finding the correct apps and kernels please post in your reply and I will give you the links to the kernels I am using uploaded by myself for you to download
Okay so lets get this party started
okay so after rooting your device install the Ubuntu Installer Free and follow the promts. it is an easy to use app which guides you to 3 downloads. the first download is the ubuntu.sh file. and then there are two links to download the ubuntu image. If you want a light (not good looking) version of ubuntu download the smaller image (the second option of the downloads).
If you want the gnome (sexy looking ubuntu) download the third option.
while you are downloading the files GO AHEAD and install the BusyBox installer app. then choose the 1.18.4 version and install it into you system/bin directory. it will give you the directory in a list to choose. once thats done install the same version again but in the system/xbin directory.
while you wait for ubuntu installer to download the images for you go ahead and search for that nifty overclock kernel. make sure IT IS NOT the one from zedomax because then you will have no screen rotate ability. look for an overclock kernel that has ov_oa in its description. once again post in this thread if you are having troubles and i will upload my kernel.
So after ubuntu installer has downloaded files go ahead and extract them into the /sdcard/ubuntu folder (you will have to create the folder)
after you have extracted the files into /sdcard/ubuntu folder (this directory is in the root of your tab. you do not have to create a folder in the root saying /sdcard/ubuntu. you can just make a folder named Ubuntu and drop the files in there.
so after plainc the files into the Ubuntu folder go to you terminal on your device. if you dont have a terminal you can download it from the market for free. its called android terminal.
in the terminal tipe the following
su
cd /sdcard/ubuntu
sh ubuntu.sh
if you have correct busybox installed you will get a prompt that asks you for the screen size. make the screen size 1280x800
then IF it gives you a choise between lightlinux or Gnome. select option 2. gnome
after that done open android vnc and set the following
name: ubi
password: ubuntu
adress: localhost
port: 5900
and then select connect.
and congratulations. everything was perfect. if not. pm me or reply in this thread for support.
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Im having problem, terminal emulator say loop missing.
So plz provide me kernel link and name os version on wich tat kernal need to b flashed
model: samsung galaxy tab 10.1 3g (gt-p7500).

help me for loop supporte kernal
sriabhi said:
Im having problem, terminal emulator say loop missing.
So plz provide me kernel link and name os version on wich tat kernal need to b flashed
model: samsung galaxy tab 10.1 3g (gt-p7500).
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Hello sir,
I need a kernal for loop support on samsung galaxy tab 10.1 3g
(model: gt-p7500).
Plz send me link for kernal and tell me on what rom that kernal
has to be flashed.

can you please direct me to the Ubuntu Installer Free? Can't seem to find it on Play market.

komorka said:
can you please direct me to the Ubuntu Installer Free? Can't seem to find it on Play market.
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It's called "Lunux Ultimate Installer" now...or something along those lines anways. If you search for Ubuntu Installer, it comes up.

llewelyn12 said:
this is an easy pease guide to install Ubuntu with working Busybox on your samsung galaxy Tab 10.1
Requirements:
A rooted device (there are lots op threads on xda on how to root your 10.1)
after rooting download Ubuntu installer Free
the second app you need to download is busybox installer
and third you will need to download and install android-vnc you will need this to view the ubuntu after instalation
and then last but not least you can download a overclocking kernel to make things work smoother. there is a thread in xda about this.
and then download the setcpu.apk file. search it on google.
If you have any trouble finding the correct apps and kernels please post in your reply and I will give you the links to the kernels I am using uploaded by myself for you to download
Okay so lets get this party started
okay so after rooting your device install the Ubuntu Installer Free and follow the promts. it is an easy to use app which guides you to 3 downloads. the first download is the ubuntu.sh file. and then there are two links to download the ubuntu image. If you want a light (not good looking) version of ubuntu download the smaller image (the second option of the downloads).
If you want the gnome (sexy looking ubuntu) download the third option.
while you are downloading the files GO AHEAD and install the BusyBox installer app. then choose the 1.18.4 version and install it into you system/bin directory. it will give you the directory in a list to choose. once thats done install the same version again but in the system/xbin directory.
while you wait for ubuntu installer to download the images for you go ahead and search for that nifty overclock kernel. make sure IT IS NOT the one from zedomax because then you will have no screen rotate ability. look for an overclock kernel that has ov_oa in its description. once again post in this thread if you are having troubles and i will upload my kernel.
So after ubuntu installer has downloaded files go ahead and extract them into the /sdcard/ubuntu folder (you will have to create the folder)
after you have extracted the files into /sdcard/ubuntu folder (this directory is in the root of your tab. you do not have to create a folder in the root saying /sdcard/ubuntu. you can just make a folder named Ubuntu and drop the files in there.
so after plainc the files into the Ubuntu folder go to you terminal on your device. if you dont have a terminal you can download it from the market for free. its called android terminal.
in the terminal tipe the following
su
cd /sdcard/ubuntu
sh ubuntu.sh
if you have correct busybox installed you will get a prompt that asks you for the screen size. make the screen size 1280x800
then IF it gives you a choise between lightlinux or Gnome. select option 2. gnome
after that done open android vnc and set the following
name: ubi
password: ubuntu
adress: localhost
port: 5900
and then select connect.
and congratulations. everything was perfect. if not. pm me or reply in this thread for support.
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I need the download files to run ubuntu on my galalaxy tab 3 10.1. thanks.