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I've stumbled upon this thread at cyanogen's blog:
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/cm9-progress-update
If you look at this part, is good news for us, since Acer Iconia and Asus Transformer, as far as I know, share most of the hardware...
The first devices (besides the Nexus S, which you can already get from Koush’s section on ROM Manager) that we’ll have ready will mostly likely be devices based on OMAP4, MSM8660/7X30, and Exynos. We also have some Tegra2 tablets in the pipeline such as the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and Asus Transformer.
Yishhh.... I hope it won't take long for a first release!
Happy to see this. I just flashed my phone a few hours ago with a (quite buggy) alpha CM9 build, and while it's quite slow and has a lot missing, I must say it's beautiful and very fun to use. Maybe blazingwolf can help cyanogen bring it to our tabs?
Bloodflame said:
Happy to see this. I just flashed my phone a few hours ago with a (quite buggy) alpha CM9 build, and while it's quite slow and has a lot missing, I must say it's beautiful and very fun to use. Maybe blazingwolf can help cyanogen bring it to our tabs?
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Maybe if you get on your knees and whine to cyanogen like you did with wolf they will? Ya never know, but it's worth a try at least?
Well to be straight on point i dont think we even have as mush as development as the previous Galaxy S1 . Just look at their android development thread and on the first page itself you can find 3 ICS roms . Two of them usable for daily driver , one is CM9 which is still buggy (So is ours ), I mean to say that we are dependent only on the CM9 team for the ICS and we dont have anyother dev to do that for us .
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anshmiester78900 said:
Well to be straight on point i dont think we even have as mush as development as the previous Galaxy S1 . Just look at their android development thread and on the first page itself you can find 3 ICS roms . Two of them usable for daily driver , one is CM9 which is still buggy (So is ours ), I mean to say that we are dependent only on the CM9 team for the ICS and we dont have anyother dev to do that for us .
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simple reasong
samsung galaxy s2 is a perfec phone with perfect firmware.
reason ppl coming here is to change the looks and play around with their perfect phone when there is nothing else to do.
the reason for no ics is because ICS is still buggy on its own so there is no point making roms untill google fixes the base.
If you desporately want more ICS development, then get developing.
If I had the brains to do, I would do. But I don't, so I can't.
Its pretty hard to develop anything without code. They work with what they have and if what they have is crappy, so yeah.
The SGS1 is similar (or almost exactly the same) as the Nexus S so since source is out for that they just took some stuff there and used it on the SGS1. Makes it much easier. We don't have a phone similar to ours that we can borrow bits and pieces from. They tried that with the Galaxy 7.0 Tab Plus but didn't work out so well.
Actually this is the first Smartphone where I don´t feel the need to change much. It´s already damn good.
zabihjan said:
simple reasong
samsung galaxy s2 is a perfec phone with perfect firmware.
reason ppl coming here is to change the looks and play around with their perfect phone when there is nothing else to do.
the reason for no ics is because ICS is still buggy on its own so there is no point making roms untill google fixes the base.
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ICS is still buggy? I had daily drivers ics Roms on my nexus s backup in october!
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Same here best phone ive ever had so far, only things needed to change
where optical and removed the unneeded apps.
ICS seems nice once it's stable and bugfree untill then........
Not sure I would agree.
I am running the Simplistic ICS ROM RC3 as my daily driver. Everything is super smooth from my limited experience. Granted, these are based on Sammy leaks but it beats the deadlock I saw over on the RAZR forum.
Pretty happy overall.
Very happy with my current rom, so yes I am happy overall with development
Nothing really I would change. Even with ics out, I prefer the majority of stuff touchwiz has. Simple tweaking is pretty much it.
Common guys i think ur not getting me i mean to say that we have less developers
I think it's because the original Galaxy S is older and developers have more experience with the hardware. For example it took almost a year before Cyanogengenmod was available for the Galaxy S.
I have to agree with the OP. Seeing as a galaxy s2 is such a popular phone u wuld expect more aosp roms for ics :L
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I think it's because the original Galaxy S is older and developers have more experience with the hardware. For example it took almost a year before Cyanogengenmod was available for the Galaxy S.
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Damn and they got ICS so easily ?
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I think it's because the original Galaxy S is older and developers have more experience with the hardware. For example it took almost a year before Cyanogengenmod was available for the Galaxy S.
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I tend to agree, the Original Galaxy is more established.
The trouble is, the S2 is sandwiched between the Galaxy S, and The upcoming S3. (Stuck between a rock and a hard place)
A lot of Devs and Users will no doubt be waiting to upgrade to the S3 upon launch, and maybe leave the S2 in the shadow somewhat.
Also unfortunately I would imagine a lot of Developers are staying away, considering some of the Flaming that happens on here.
We shall see. But Overall I'm more than satisfied with the Development.
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Judging the level of development of a device just based on ICS is utterly stupid - did you look at all at the Gingerbread development that happened on this phone?
ICS for the original Galaxy S is a FLUKE. It's almost unheard of for an AOSP bringup to succeed on a higher version of Android than what is released for the phone due to lack of compatible binary blobs for vendor-proprietary parts.
The Galaxy S is lucky and VERY unusual - it has a high number of hardware similarities with the Nexus S, which is by its definition, a phone that has as many components open-sourced as possible. As a result, much of the Nexus S source code was adaptable to the Galaxy S as part of the CM7 bringup process.
The I9100 doesn't have this hardware commonality with a Nexus device. The RIL architecture and interfaces are completely different, the GPU is completely different, etc.
Exactly what I was going to mention. Usually porting or developing on phones is easier when someone else with similar hardware has done it before. You just borrow their work and adapt it. The Galaxy S2 doesn't share its hardware with many other phones. Hell, the whole Galaxy S2 line is super fragmented anyway! You have Tegra, omap, Exynos, different cameras, different specs alltogether.
If you just think of the international version... We're pretty much set apart and in the dark with all the proprietary code that the phone has. If you want a quick development path for your phone, you'll need a phone which has generic hardware or fully opensource code... Which is far from being this phone's case sadly.
Of course a lot of the SGS 1 roms where just cut and paste jobs .
Rom +Theme A then Rom + Theme B does not make two roms .
I am more than happy and the answer has always been you want more roms donate a phone to a dev instead of expecting them to pay for your flashing habit .
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It must have something to do with what can be achieved; with the exception of new releases from Google the only areas of interest really are storage space and speed. Both of which are pretty good as stock on the S2 where as development for the Desire was huge as it could be faster and, as stock, had a lack of storage space.
Even if you didn't like the look of TouchWiz you could choose a new launcher rather than rooting and flashing new ROMs.
if you want a regular updates and more development then maybe the phone for you is the galaxy nexus. pure google phone and a phone to get updates straight from the Google itself. I have not gone into the forums over there but i am pretty sure you have proper roms coming out through your ears...And i mean roms probably making that phone even better than it already is..and as being so new still the development for that can only get better...
The same for the S2. once the source code is released then you will see roms coming out and development will for sure will be on the high again and you see proper ICS roms coming left right and center...So be happy with what we have here and do more tweaking to get the max out of the phone instead of wondering if the development is slow or not..
It's been a while since anything even slightly official has come out since XWJW1 and JVU didn't seem official or very tempting at all. Is this it? Have we reached the Omega?
And if not, any clues as to when a new one will be coming out? Hearsay is welcome.
For the record, I think xwjw1 is great (stock odex with semaphore 2.5.0bm and the blue boaffa mods), I just want to know if there is anything to look forward to.
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DanDroidian said:
It's been a while since anything even slightly official has come out since XWJW1 and JVU didn't seem official or very tempting at all. Is this it? Have we reached the Omega?
And if not, any clues as to when a new one will be coming out? Hearsay is welcome.
For the record, I think xwjw1 is great (stock odex with semaphore 2.5.0bm and the blue boaffa mods), I just want to know if there is anything to look forward to.
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Yes, ICS, forget about Samsung's official stance on releasing it for the SGS, the devs here are doing an awesome some and ICS Slim, is fast, sleek and so far, I've had no problems with it.
Thank You Samsung for Not Releasing ICS for SGS!!!
Fuctifino said:
Yes, ICS, forget about Samsung's official stance on releasing it for the SGS, the devs here are doing an awesome some and ICS Slim, is fast, sleek and so far, I've had no problems with it.
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For once I am happy that Samsung is not releasing ICS! This means I get a vanilla OS from the wonderful community here!
I don't seem to be using TouchWiz for that many things! And if at there are things that I use, I am sure to find alternatives for all of those in the Market!
So I get the ICS "new look" and all the goodies with it - without the old UI!!! It's amazing!
Oh so why should anyone buy galaxy s2 with official very limited and faulty software development ? i think i will put on hold upgrading and wait for googles motorola with amoled
devs in here are making crap as always, doing stuff that they like - when something is crashing and something else is working 1% faster, ICS is pretty much funny and flashy compared to touch wizz which is to get the job done easier and faster
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Oh so why should anyone buy galaxy s2 with official very limited and faulty software development ? i think i will put on hold upgrading and wait for googles motorola with amoled
devs in here are making crap as always, doing stuff that they like - when something is crashing and something else is working 1% faster, ICS is pretty much funny and flashy compared to touch wizz which is to get the job done easier and faster
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wow now you are *****ing about [email protected]?? If you want some features, why don't you go ahead and build them? Instead of talking **** about the DEVs here.
Yes, the SGS is EOL as far as Samsung software is concerned. Luckily this community is big enough to get past this.
We already have a few stable enough AOSP ICS roms and a port of S2's official ICS in the works, so there is still life left.
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Raider0001 said:
devs in here are making crap as always
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Feel free NOT to flash anything that you find here if you feel it is crap.
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Yes, the SGS is EOL as far as Samsung software is concerned. ..
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Hey all, tried searching the forum to make sure this already wasnt posted up, and found nothing, so here it goes!
While doing some homework on the latest official ICS release for the SGS2, came across a thread somebody linked up in the SGS2 forums regarding the new firmware release, with that was some new info on new firmware to come for the SGS1 and other devices by months end! Looks like this could be that "Value Pack" that was leaked/talked about some months back. Although not ICS, at least Samsung still have the First gen galaxy still in mind - Check the link from their Facebook page! Apologies if this is already posted up somewhere, if not, go nuts peeps and start getting excited i guess
https://www.facebook.com/notes/sams...dwich-upgrade-for-galaxy-s-ii/390405030989148
Good spot!
Wonder if it will be enough for people to switch back from the various custom roms, doubt it though. I'm happy with MIUI until phone upgrade time comes around.
szqnl said:
Good spot!
Wonder if it will be enough for people to switch back from the various custom roms, doubt it though. I'm happy with MIUI until phone upgrade time comes around.
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Majority of people with SGS are not on custom roms so it's good for them I guess.
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Fremen567 said:
Majority of people with SGS are not on custom roms so it's good for them I guess.
Don't drink and tapatalk.
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Not in this case.... If they do the same as with the ICS of SGS2, (but without ICS, just their crapy mod) you better look for a good custom ICS or enjoy gingerbread for the rest of you life...! Seriously, aosp ICSSGS works tremendously, you can consider it almost as stock ROM, and forget about Samsung and their ****...
Not to mention some carriers like Bell here in Canada are unlikely to push another update. Pretty sure they will leave it with the crappy 2.3.3 rom.
It may be interesting to see what they come up with but I doubt it will compare to ICS ports like ICSSGS. The big question will be lag and UI jerkiness: ICSSGS has almost none, it's night and day compare to any of the 2.1-2.3.x Samsung roms I've run.
It's probably just referring to the official release of the JVU value pack.
J_Caselles said:
Not in this case.... If they do the same as with the ICS of SGS2, (but without ICS, just their crapy mod) you better look for a good custom ICS or enjoy gingerbread for the rest of you life...! Seriously, aosp ICSSGS works tremendously, you can consider it almost as stock ROM, and forget about Samsung and their ****...
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As I said it's good for not-xda folks. And that translates to most of SGS owners.
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It's probably just referring to the official release of the JVU value pack.
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More than likely. But its been some time since that leaked, so no doubt the bugs that were present should be ironed out hopefully by now!
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Not to mention some carriers like Bell here in Canada are unlikely to push another update. Pretty sure they will leave it with the crappy 2.3.3 rom.
It may be interesting to see what they come up with but I doubt it will compare to ICS ports like ICSSGS. The big question will be lag and UI jerkiness: ICSSGS has almost none, it's night and day compare to any of the 2.1-2.3.x Samsung roms I've run.
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I can almost guarantee there wont be an update for carrier branded variants around the globe, just too much work for them in their eyes to deliver updates when they can sell something new an updated, and continue with the same cycle! Just look at the US, all the variants for each carrier and pretty much no love which has to suck! Whereas this news relates to unbranded handsets, which gets looked after just fine IMHO. Ok, updates arent always flying through but who really cares, as long as it works! I have an unlocked i9000 (euro version) and am now on the official JW1 (via kies) and have not had a single problem what so ever! But ill take whatever update that comes. If it keeps my SGS kicking till the S3 arrives, then im happy. Just good to hear Samsung is taking this stuff seriously. Again may not be ICS but still good on them for doing something. People can keep blaming Samsung for lack of updates, but most that do that are on branded handsets and should be hounding their carriers for an update!
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Not to mention some carriers like Bell here in Canada are unlikely to push another update. Pretty sure they will leave it with the crappy 2.3.3 rom.
It may be interesting to see what they come up with but I doubt it will compare to ICS ports like ICSSGS. The big question will be lag and UI jerkiness: ICSSGS has almost none, it's night and day compare to any of the 2.1-2.3.x Samsung roms I've run.
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really, 2.3.3? That's insulting! Could they pick any worse firmware to stick to? Anyway, carrier policy it's always hilarious... Why on earth has the galaxy mini better firmware than the galaxy S? (I know the answer, rhetorical question!)
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As I said it's good for not-xda folks. And that translates to most of SGS owners.
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Anyway, I don't think those customers will care at all... Cause if they cared, they wouldn't hesitate to flash any custom... I just think this value pack is useless whatsoever.
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Old News
Before ranting about how Samsung sucks blah blah and messing up this thread, please read this --->post<--- first.
I will start a discussion about JellyBean (Android 4.1) so that our forum will not be cluttered with JB stuff.
Although i was late in viewing the live stream of google i/o i found this info over at phonearena. Jellybean will remove lag on devices that will run it? If so it would be cool to have it on our device (even though i only experience micro stutter lag). Hope it removes those little lag i experience sometimes.
Source: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Android-4.1-Jelly-Bean-is-announced-waves-goodbye-to-lag_id31659
Do you think our device will get updated to JellyBean? My personal opinion is yes because it is just a point release not a major overhaul of the OS. Maybe it will be less hassle to developers on porting it from ICS to JB than from GB to ICS (since this one is a major update). What do you guys think? Will it finally remove the micro lags we are experiencing or will it just be another android update without much improvement?
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OTA update to GNex is out. For those devs interested here is the link.
JellyBean SDK System Dump: Here is the link
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Here is a little video presentation: link
Here is a pocketnow preview of JellyBean running on an emulator: link
Pocketnow presentation for JellyBean on the Galaxy Nexus: link
News
The first leak for GT-i9100 is here! Click on the link to get it link
Current Tweet from Sammobile saying S2 JB update will be delayed till November. Here is the link
Good news! Sammobile confirms 100% that Samsung Galaxy S2 will get JellyBean. This time, it's REAL. Here is the link to the news.
Old Twitter news confirming Samsung Galaxy S2 will get JellyBean. Here is the link
Sammobile has good news for us. Check it out!: link
Here is a news confirming that CM team is working on our phone: link
What do you think about sammobile's tweet guys?: link
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even notification bar sees improvement!!
I dun think sammy is going to release a JB rom but we will see AOSP/AOKP/CM9 for sure there's still a lot of people who haven't switched to the SGSIII
I really hope they update sgs2 to JB. Like the sgs1 which got 3 updates (from eclair, froyo then gb). I hope if sammy will update the s2 to jb they will not mess it up, although i think it will still have the same UI.
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I'm a bit confused. Is JellyBean going to be version 4.1 or 5.0? :silly:
donalgodon said:
I'm a bit confused. Is JellyBean going to be version 4.1 or 5.0? :silly:
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4.1
"The first side of the Jelly Bean update is the way it interacts with hardware. One of the main complaints with Androids is that it often gets laggy even on the most sophisticated devices. Google has finally radically addressed this so manufacturers and developers can make their devices lag-free. The solution is called Project Butter and it comes with triple buffering so that the CPU and GPU work without waiting for each other. This means scrolling, zooming and virtually all actions become much faster."
It took them 4 MAJOR versons to fix this! Shame on you Google!
Are you guys really gona move to an OS without Flash support?
I know i am not!
4.1 Jelly Bean
4.1 is Jelly Bean.
Super excited for the release of the new ASUS Nexus 7 tablet, which will run with 4.1 Jelly Bean.
I expect great performance from this latest update. I expect that if they are marketing it to be lag free, than it should be.
Cannot wait to see for myself!
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Are you guys really gona move to an OS without Flash support?
I know i am not!
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Yeah, this is my main concern, there are a lot of flash videos I watch in the browser that are not available in other formats
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Are you guys really gona move to an OS without Flash support?
I know i am not!
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I purposely don't have flash installed on my home PC. If a video is in Flash then they wont get my views then simple. HTML5 or GTFO!
I don't expect Samsung will release it for SGS II.
I doubt JB will be worth at all... ICS except few changes like icons ect. is worse than GB...
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shotta35 said:
I purposely don't have flash installed on my home PC. If a video is in Flash then they wont get my views then simple. HTML5 or GTFO!
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HTML 5 video is big FAIL.
There is no real fullscreen - Flash is the way.
YouTube tried HTML 5 and was shouted about this stupid idea
I can't wait for custom ROM based on Jelly Bean. I love the new notification bar and its parallel processing.
Sammy definately won't release this for our s2! Lets be serious now lol! Sold a **** load of s2's but don't really care when it comes down to updates! I'm looking to get a galaxy nexus for my upgrade! I don't want an s3 lol. Can't wait to try out jelly bean though
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Yeah, this is my main concern, there are a lot of flash videos I watch in the browser that are not available in other formats
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Flash is becoming obsolete. Adobe has accepted html5 is going to replace it and is ceasing support for it soon (though its pushing devs to Adobe AIR platform).
And the video play back is very good. Try you tube opt in and look for a no-ads video to test it, better than flash imo.
God, I hope we get 4.1 because Ive missed offline voice recog for years. And the other goodies look cool
androidkid311 said:
Sammy definately won't release this for our s2! Lets be serious now lol! Sold a **** load of s2's but don't really care when it comes down to updates! I'm looking to get a galaxy nexus for my upgrade! I don't want an s3 lol. Can't wait to try out jelly bean though
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GNex HSPA for $349 on Playstore, add shipping and taxes. I'm thinking about getting one myself.
Where can I find the video presentation ?
Why do you all think we won't get this for our phones? I'll be really disappointed if we don't get it. Samsung has had access to Jelly Bean for some time now (according to Google), and since it's a rather small update and well within 18 Months of our Galaxy S2's update span, we should really get it.
I just have one question: will Samsung upgrade our devices? 4.1 sounds cool, seems smoother, otherwise Google woudn't release this.
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Where can I find the video presentation ?
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http://reviews.cnet.com/operating-systems/google-android-4-1/4505-3671_7-35339167.html