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I'm using donut with NAND. This morning my phone seemed to have drained the battery overnight, and was completely off. When I plug it in it in the charge light will not come on. The battery has enough juice to almost complete the boot, but always dies just as the lock screen comes up.
I've been trying to search for possible solutions. Some posts seem to say that it is normal for the phone not to charge while off or booting (thought I thought mine did), but I definitely have this now. One suggested going to the coke bootloader screen to charge. this does not work for me. I tied flashing back to WinMo, but my PC can't see the phone through usb. I also tried a hard reset. One suggestion said to have a Verizon store charge the battery. So I guess I'll try that next and report back.
Any help or confirmation that my phone is bricked and I should just give up, is appreciated!
try going into boot loader, you know power+camera+rest button, and let it charge in that for 5 min, then try and boot
Thanks for the suggestion. I did try that and it didn't seem to be working (I didn't see a charge indication led come on). Maybe it is charging and it just does not indicate it? I'll give it a try again. I'm just worried that if I completely drain the battery then I'll have no chance to start it up and charge at all.
nope that killed it alright. guess it wasn't charging after all. Guess my only hope now if Verizon, or finding another working vogue to charge it.
And it still makes me wonder if the not charging problem will remain. If I could only flash back to Winmo. Is there a way to do that without a usb link to the PC?
Flash back windows via sd
copy the nbh file of windows rom to the /sdcard
rename it to VOGUEIMG.nbh
press camera button
connect usb
4 color screen appears
release camera button
press power
restart
connect the phone to power source all the night
flash back android.
The charge light will not come on when in bootloader mode, but I assure you the phone will charge. I plugged it in and put it in bootloader mode for about 20 minutes, then was able to continue.
I had the EXACT same problem a few months ago.
NuAngel
In boot loader mode it doesn't charge, you need to flash windows and then reflash android.
l1q1d said:
In boot loader mode it doesn't charge, you need to flash windows and then reflash android.
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Again, I've been through this myself. The light may not come on, but the battery DOES charge when in bootloader mode. Please do not misinform. The OP does not have to re-flash - and, in fact, it may be impossible to re-flash without a healthier charge to the battery.
NuAngel
Sure? I test it in polaris and in kaiser and it doesn't charge.
Probably vogue has a different power connection inside.
Good to know
l1q1d said:
Sure? I test it in polaris and in kaiser and it doesn't charge.
Probably vogue has a different power connection inside.
Good to know
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i have done it too
In my case the phone was not charging in boot loader mode. I let it sit plugged in like that and it completely killed the factory battery as well as my extended one.
I went to Verizon but they said they didn't have a vogue phone anymore and so couldn't charge my battery.
I ordered one of these, but had to wait awhile to get it from Hong Kong. I just got it today and was able to charge my battery, but even after booting into android my phone will not charge the battery its self. I've tried with the AC cord, and usb which I know is a good cord. Maybe something in my phone got fried? I'll try going back to windows next.
My solution (which is using the same phone NuAngel more then likely had an issue with, since he gave it to me) was to go out and get a new battery charger. The chargers connector itself had become worn out. I was able to pickup a fantastic generic Touch/Touch Pro/Touch Pro2 charger at Walmart for $15 or so, Now the phone chargers fine (although it still touchy when flashing via USB).
In short, the USB port is really getting worn out on this thing, but I can still do data at times, even though its not getting a charge (via USB).. its odd at times.
So maybe that's my problem, the usb port has worn out. I can't seem to get a charge or data.
So now I'm having trouble flashing windows from the sd card. I tried to follow the above post:
l1q1d said:
Flash back windows via sd
copy the nbh file of windows rom to the /sdcard
rename it to VOGUEIMG.nbh
press camera button
connect usb
4 color screen appears
release camera button
press power
restart
connect the phone to power source all the night
flash back android.
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and I found this in another post:
WnG88 said:
If you want to re-flash your nand back to wm, here is the instruction:
1. find your wm rom, it will be the RUU_Singed.nbh
2. copy the RUU_Signed.nbh to SD card as VOGUIMG.nbh, pull the battery, replace, press power and hold camera button and reset hole, this should start the flash process.
Note that the SD card must be formatted FAT32, or it will not be finding the VOGUIMG.nbh.
Even simpler:
- put the phone into boot loader mode (power + camera + reset pinhole, you should see the tricolor screen)
- plug into USB of computer
- Flash the windows mobile rom right from windows using whichever rom install file you want.
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I downloaded NFSFAN's 6.5 in a rar file from here, opened it with 7zip, copied RUU_signed.nbh to the root of the sd card (FAT32), changed the name to VOGUEIMG.nbh .
I assume I can't use any of the instructions that involve the usb port, and I can't figure out if I am supposed to be doing something different with the button holds. I'm just holding power, reset, and camera at boot up to get to the boot loader screen right? After that screen pops up I get a quick flash to a white screen that says something like "Loading... File not found!" then back to the 4 color screen that says Serial.
Can anybody tell me what I'm doing wrong?
Thanks.
The nbh should be renamed to "VOGUIMG.nbh" not "VOGUEIMG.nbh"
However, I am not sure if it will actually help fix your problem.
Thanks for that correction. I was using VOGUEIMG.nbh, but sadly changing it to VOGUIMG.nbh did not seem to fix anything.
Now I found this thread which says to flash from sdcard
egzthunder1 said:
Your SD card has to be:
*Formatted for FAT32
*Be 2GB or less
*Not be SDHC
Simply do what you are doing (rename file and drop in the root of the SD card, put the device in bootloader, and the device takes care of the rest.... it should work.
Good luck!
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My card is 2 GB so I assume it is not SDHC. The HC stands for High Capacity right? (not Host Controller which shows up in the properties for the card in windows)
I would plug the phone into a wall charger if you are going to use the SD card method. I haven't tired this method, but I would assume it would work best when not plugged in at all, and the battery is +50% charged.
If the phone doesn't have a valid image installed, you should automatically get the three screen on first startup, so there shouldn't be a need to use the key combo. You should only have to pull the battery if you plan on leaving the phone off.
Just to clarify, using the wall charger does not charge my phone, but I did buy an external battery charger, so I can make sure it is above 50%. Also I do have android installed as NAND so the bootloader is not automatically loaded on start up. I have to use the key combo. I'm just trying to flash back to Windows to see if it fixes the usb/charging problem. I've tried a couple of nhb files now in case one was corrupted, but the bootloader still does not see the files as valid. I'm using CoKe 2.31. I'm not sure what else to try.
Hi,I have a Android gingerbread 2.3,haspl v.3,MAGLDR113,it's second time my htc block and dont want to restart from the buton,i have remove the battery and it dosnt want to turn on ,there is no screen,the battery was charget,but the red light don't light when i plug the cabel,in my PC dont recognise usb,nothing and the phone,i try for 1 day to remove a battery,but no result,1st time when it happens it work,but for a week i can't use it,Sorry For my English,Some ideas what can i do before i took it back in the store
sounds like it could be a simple flat battery. when magldr is installed you cannot charge the phone unless android is running, so when it is off it does not charge.
if you can try another battery, or your battery in a winmo hd2, that will tell you if its teh battery.
If you have a spare usb cable (any type, doesnt have to be a hd2 micro usb cable) cut end off, bare red and black, hold red to + and black to - on teh battery for about a minute, which should give it enough power to charge.
Also check very carefully that you dont have a bent battery pin from all teh battery in/out. they bend easily.
i hava a Bat charger and charge the bat all night,and the morning it show me that bat is charget,put it on the phone,but nothing ... cant turn on
Maybe battery is dead. Do you own a volt meter an can check the voltage provided by the battery? It shoud show up about 4 volt.
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Maybe battery is dead. Do you own a volt meter and can check the voltage provided by the battery? It shoud show up about 4 volt.
i took the bat to my friend with devace to check the battery,and everything is OK,but the phone didn't turn on,Can i reinstal the Android ?and how can i do it
Is there a program that can connect to the phone and erase everything
To wipe the phone install the HD2 toolkit, you can download it here.
It includes every tool needed for maintaining your HD2.
Be sure to install the drivers!
Start the program and press the Task29 button, follow the instructions provided. When it's finished your HD2 will be fully wiped, so you would need to reinstall everything.
Do so by doing a MAGLDR repartition. After that choose MAGLDR update recovery to flash the Clockworkmod recovery.
Then go into the Clockworkmod recovery and flash your rom.
Now your HD2 should be fully wiped
BUT! If your PC doesn't even recognize your HD2, and you can't even get to the bootloader screen by pressing and holding both volume down and the "end call" button. Then it's probably a hardware failure.
Maxp101 said:
To wipe the phone install the HD2 toolkit, you can download it here.
It includes every tool needed for maintaining your HD2.
Be sure to install the drivers!
Start the program and press the Task29 button, follow the instructions provided. When it's finished your HD2 will be fully wiped, so you would need to reinstall everything.
Do so by doing a MAGLDR repartition. After that choose MAGLDR update recovery to flash the Clockworkmod recovery.
Then go into the Clockworkmod recovery and flash your rom.
Now your HD2 should be fully wiped
BUT! If your PC doesn't even recognize your HD2, and you can't even get to the bootloader screen by pressing and holding both volume down and the "end call" button. Then it's probably a hardware failure.
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Magldr repartition flashes cwm so no need for the update recovery step. That's for, well the clue is in the name,,, updating the cwm version on an already partitioned instal.
Okay, thanks for clarifying that!
Didn't know it worked like that, I only use CLK.
Sent from my HD2 using xda premium
thanks for the information,but Isn't happened like I expect,I still cannot to turn the phone on,and still don't recognize USB,Battery is Full,
Everything i try:
Remove a battery for 1 night
Charge a battery with Charger for battery
Put the charge cable into phone for 1 day
try comb. with keys ( volume up/volume down/Power but.,,volume Down and power but.)but nothing happens.More idaes ??? , or maybe never will wake up this phone ???
more information for the problem
htc hd2 1024 mb with Android gingerbread 2.3,haspl v.3,MAGLDR113
Sd card 2 GB (class 3)
while I play games and watching youyube via wifi connection my charge cable was plugged in the phone,in about a 2,3 hours it freeze,i wait 1,2 minutes and after i try to power off the phone I remove the battery and pul back again and in this moment the phone never turn on.That is maybe everything I know if someone knows or give me a idea what to do,please tell me
I've seen this and similar a few times, when left on charge overnight, and upon waking the phone is totally gone. I've woken up to a fully hard reset phone myself, once, not dead but something weird happened.
Electrical surge, perhaps? Overheated circuits? Who knows.
Somehow the phone start,I have put on my router,and plug in USB all night,in the morning i remove a battery,remove a SDcard put back batery,plug usb and it go,I replace infromation from the card with onother sdcard,flash the phone. 10x for the help,maybe now everything is ok
marto9067 said:
more information for the problem
htc hd2 1024 mb with Android gingerbread 2.3,haspl v.3,MAGLDR113
Sd card 2 GB (class 3)
while I play games and watching youyube via wifi connection my charge cable was plugged in the phone,in about a 2,3 hours it freeze,i wait 1,2 minutes and after i try to power off the phone I remove the battery and pul back again and in this moment the phone never turn on.That is maybe everything I know if someone knows or give me a idea what to do,please tell me
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I've same problem after similar conditions.
Mine is 512Mb HD2 running Andorid on SD
- while using in extreme conditions: very low network signal, hot ambience temperature, using GPS and downloading data throug 3G
- the screen freeze on image and not respond on touch neiter button
-after 2-3 minutes phone temperature became very hot and screen again on freeze
- removed battery (for power off button not responding)
- insert battery
- no power up, no green LED with AV adaptet, no USB recognized
I'll trying to charge battery but i don't have a table battery chager.
Could you please repeat me what you did, since I didn't get the first part, what did you put on your router (what kind of router please)?
I've tried using my phone with another HD2 phone's battery which is working (and which also started with my own battery?!) but my own phone wouldn't start at all with the other battery...
The battery wasn't fully charged, but did it have to be, if so how long should I charge the battery with the cut USB cable for it to be charged enough please?!
TIA
P.S. I've tried a voltmeter on my battery and it said 4.14V (should it be 4V exactly?) and should I even try the cut USB charge trick again (since I've tried another phone's working battery)?
marto9067 said:
Somehow the phone start,I have put on my router,and plug in USB all night,in the morning i remove a battery,remove a SDcard put back batery,plug usb and it go,I replace infromation from the card with onother sdcard,flash the phone. 10x for the help,maybe now everything is ok
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dada.81 said:
Could you please repeat me what you did, since I didn't get the first part, what did you put on your router (what kind of router please)?
I've tried using my phone with another HD2 phone's battery which is working (and which also started with my own battery?!) but my own phone wouldn't start at all with the other battery...
The battery wasn't fully charged, but did it have to be, if so how long should I charge the battery with the cut USB cable for it to be charged enough please?!
TIA
P.S. I've tried a voltmeter on my battery and it said 4.14V (should it be 4V exactly?) and should I even try the cut USB charge trick again (since I've tried another phone's working battery)?
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Ok if I understand you correctly you have tried your battery in a working HD2 and it worked. Then you tried the battery from the working HD2 in your device but your device still did not boot up. If this is correct I do not feel your battery is the problem, but still check the battery pins on your device to make sure none of them are not slightly bent and not making contact properly.
Also if you can provide more info on what you may have done to cause this or what happened when your device reached the state it is currently in. This info can help others and me help you better.
I have a similar problem.
The phone won't start, it gets to the white htc screen sometimes but quits within a fraction of a second.
This has been so since the first Android boot hung (I suspect I have not followed the steps accurately enough...). I have charged, decharged and recharged the battery using the suggested USB-cable technique, but this was of no aid so far, so it's not the battery. Pins and all's fine.
It's someone else's phone, too, so it would be rather unfortunate if I bricked it.
Are there any other common reasons for this behavior? Most tutorials rely on a PC connection, but as it does not recognize such a thing, that's a bit of a problem.
Finally the same problem here.
Battery status was about 70% and running smoothly (WinMO Custom Rom) since installed.Unlocked the Screen and tried to start programs.
The Icons were lightened up but nothing happened.Tried to softrestart...Nothing happened.
Removed and reinserted the Battery.
=> Not turning on.
-another fully charged Battery => nothing
-charging on Charger => nothing not even charging light
-plugged into (running) pc => nothing not even charging light
-5 hours in the fridge => nothing
-charging over night => nothing
Any hints ?
Thx for the goot work around here and greets from Germany !
Sebastian
PS If anyone got one to offer => contact me. Dont like those situations
Bad news!
Seems like your MB is gone...:crying:
Maybe one chance left for a JTAG attempt to a local service shop...
thats what i was afraid of
at least it happend only one hour after i made a backup
thx for the reply !
Editing this as I'm desperate for help and things have moved on since I first posted, below is where I am up to post 11 of this thread.
I flashed Vegacomb b (exe), it restarted but stayed on the warning about paying for vegacomb for 10-15 minutes which didn't seem right so I held power for 6 seconds and it turned off. After that it would never turn on or go into recovery (I know all the methods, none worked).
Today I unhooked the battery, when I plug the battery back in the screen comes on for a second but then it's as it was, unresponsive. HOWEVER, if I plug the mains in with the battery disconnected then it immediately tries booting but still sticks at the warning (left for over 20 minutes). If I plug the battery in while on this screen then remove the mains it stays on. The power button is unresponsive through this so I still cannot get into recovery.
Any more ideas that haven't been mentioned?
I've tried well over 100 times to get into recovery but it's not happening
anyone willing to have a go at fixing (cheaply!) if I send them it?
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Hi guys, just managed to (re?) install Vegacomb (b, from exe), it restarted but stayed on the white screen with the warning text about paying for Vegacomb for over 10 minutes so I held down the power button to turn it off, now I cannot do anything to boot it up (tried holding power button down from 0.5 seconds to 60 seconds!), it also won't boot into recovery. Is there anything at all that can be done to get this going?
cheers
OK, I've tried holding down back while plugging in (fully charged btw), tried all variations of button presses with back and power, with and without USB, with and without power cable.
Only got until 10PM (UK time) to get this sorted (it's now 6PM) so any help/advise would be appreciated
Flash back to modded stock then try again.
From modded stock go app drawer and run recovery
From recovery wipe data, cache then go advance then wipe dalvik
Then press back
Then install zip from SD
Choose vegacomb from whatever directory on your SD you copied it to then confirm
If you ain't Got Vegacombe zip then download it.
Or you could run the .exe again but the above is my preferred method.
Also you might need to download modded stock v2 if you ain't already got it.
Good luck.
intel007 said:
Flash back to modded stock then try again.
From modded stock go app drawer and run recovery
From recovery wipe data, cache then go advance then wipe dalvik
Then press back
Then install zip from SD
Choose vegacomb then confirm
If you ain't Got Vegacombe zip then download it.
Or you could run the .exe again but the above is my preferred method.
Good luck.
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the Vega won't turn on and won't go into recovery, cannot flash anything, nothing comes up on PC, tried all variations of the back and power buttons (inc back, plug in power & usb, press power, leave 2 seconds and release back) over 100 times. it's like it's dead.
the only thing it does is show a blue LED when I plug the power cable in
I've read that if you got less than 50 or 60% battery it wont go into flash mode (back button 2 seconds - power & back 2 seconds)
Have you got enough battery cause mine takes half a day to charge.
intel007 said:
I've read that if you got less than 50 or 60% battery it wont go into flash mode (back button 2 seconds - power & back 2 seconds)
Have you got enough battery cause mine takes half a day to charge.
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100% (solid blue LED), been on charge for over 24 hours
I'm baffled mate, I've had same issue couple of times but after 10mins or so I've always got it to power back on.
Bricked
I've had the same problem and although quite drastic, remove the rear cover and unplug the battery connection (the multipin one with red and brown/black wires).
With the mains plug out,i found that if you press volume up and power with the wires unplugged and leav eit for a few mins then use back + power it will start as you need it to.
It may take a few tries but i have managed to do it following this procedure about 7-8 times.
Hope this helps.
DAve
I had trouble getting into recovery when the Vega was 100% charged (i.e. charge led was solid blue). When I let it discharge a little so it was flashing with the charger plugged in, I managed to get into recovery then.
dmarchant said:
I had trouble getting into recovery when the Vega was 100% charged (i.e. charge led was solid blue). When I let it discharge a little so it was flashing with the charger plugged in, I managed to get into recovery then.
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I can't discharge it though as it doesn't turn on, left it 14 hours from last night, back at work again now and it still says fully charged
got the battery disconnected now to give it a try
Disconnected battery for around 10 minutes, put it all back together, still can't boot or get to recovery
EDIT: it works when the battery is disconnected (goes to the Vegacomb warning screen but no further, cannot power off or get to recovery still)
any ideas?
Anyone got any ideas?
it's meant to be unbrickable from what I've read so there must be a way around it but I'm out of ideas!
its user error. remeber to put it into recovery mode you need the power cable plugged into it too as well as usb.
slybunda said:
its user error. remeber to put it into recovery mode you need the power cable plugged into it too as well as usb.
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Cheers, but its not user error. I'm not that stupid
Hi, this may not help but i had trouble flashing the stock rom because of the battery being fully charged, could only get the screen to light up so left it over night and then went through the normal routine and got into recovery.
Bill
Hi there
Just one question, how do you know for sure it hasn't gone into nvflash mode?
I know what you are going through trying to get the ruddy thing into nvflash, it's a mare if you don't quite get that timing right but seeing as the screen doesn't light up when it's in nvflash what is telling you whether you are actually in it, other than the screen coming on to say you are not or relying on a windows message?
As I said I had the same problems many a time but I use Audi tool now to tell me if nvflash has started, I got it off the Modaco forum, but when you are in nvflash it actually tells you so rather than relying on perhaps windows to tell you it has happened
If you haven't come across the audi tool before then just do a search for it on Modaco, I don't know if they have got it here on XDA.
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Anyone got any ideas?
it's meant to be unbrickable from what I've read so there must be a way around it but I'm out of ideas!
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wow, i'm quite surprised by the number of people who are taking their batteries out when they think there is a problem. You should never need to do this unless it is actually faulty.
Ok yes the Vega is nearly indestructible I have had my in a complete mess many times and have never had to do anything that hard to recover. Some times it will be a pain to get into nvflash mode but this can always be done just have to be patient and know a couple of tricks.
If you have tried the back button and then the power a few times and nothing there is another method.
Instead unplug the power then hold the back button down, whilst holding down the back button plug in the power release the back button after a couple of seconds (I like to count to 5)
I am hoping that you already have the USB cable connected and the right drivers installed on your PC.
Billy..
If you need more help head over to TabletRoms and look in the Vega forum (sorry XDA guys just there is a lot of other useful information there)
wks said:
Hi, this may not help but i had trouble flashing the stock rom because of the battery being fully charged, could only get the screen to light up so left it over night and then went through the normal routine and got into recovery.
Bill
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I've tired fully charged and letting the battery drain for 40+ mins after it's been on the "warning" screen
mitt69 said:
Hi there
Just one question, how do you know for sure it hasn't gone into nvflash mode?
I know what you are going through trying to get the ruddy thing into nvflash, it's a mare if you don't quite get that timing right but seeing as the screen doesn't light up when it's in nvflash what is telling you whether you are actually in it, other than the screen coming on to say you are not or relying on a windows message?
As I said I had the same problems many a time but I use Audi tool now to tell me if nvflash has started, I got it off the Modaco forum, but when you are in nvflash it actually tells you so rather than relying on perhaps windows to tell you it has happened
If you haven't come across the audi tool before then just do a search for it on Modaco, I don't know if they have got it here on XDA.
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I have Audi, I also have Device manager open, I know 100% it's never gone into recovery mode sine I started with this problem.
BillyFish said:
wow, i'm quite surprised by the number of people who are taking their batteries out when they think there is a problem. You should never need to do this unless it is actually faulty.
Ok yes the Vega is nearly indestructible I have had my in a complete mess many times and have never had to do anything that hard to recover. Some times it will be a pain to get into nvflash mode but this can always be done just have to be patient and know a couple of tricks.
If you have tried the back button and then the power a few times and nothing there is another method.
Instead unplug the power then hold the back button down, whilst holding down the back button plug in the power release the back button after a couple of seconds (I like to count to 5)
I am hoping that you already have the USB cable connected and the right drivers installed on your PC.
Billy..
If you need more help head over to TabletRoms and look in the Vega forum (sorry XDA guys just there is a lot of other useful information there)
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TabletRoms has been no help for me, there's been no reply at all for my problem but there has here and at MoDaCo. I pulled the battery as a last resort as NOTHING is working, I've tried all the tricks at least 2 dozen times, some a hundred +, including the one you mention
Well I don't want to teach you to suck eggs, but I take it you did use Audi to delete and replace your drivers.
And then when powering on the Vega you held the back button for 2 secs and then the back and power buttons for 6 secs to get the Vega detected?
For me I can only see that there can only be 3 other possible causes
1./ the back button is broken on the vega
2./ The USB port on your PC or on the Vega has gone up the swanee
3./ The USB lead is no good
The Vega may be unbrickable but if the back button or the USB port has had it then .....
Yeah, tried it, cheers.
When i turn on the phone it restarts after a while. Time of live is different - about 5-30sec, sometimes(rarely) it loads android successfully(but then reboot, max live time - 3-4min). It all started a few days ago after a full discharge. Phone without sim, without sd.
There are some topics with similar problem(symptoms), but:
* I have not changed the firmware in the last 4-5 months
* It's not a battery issue, I tried to connect a phone to power supply with cables (2 cables - one for + and one for -, ~4V) and turned it on (without battery). It turned on with the same problem. (notice: consumption=0.25mA)
* I put it in the fridge for an hour (without battery) - no effect at all. 10 secs and reboot. (so, it was the most probable, but...)
* I tried to boot with volume down+power - boots ok (3 color screen with text) and reboot after a few secs.
I have not looked at motherboard yet (don't have a little screwdriver). Anyway I don't know what could be the problem? help me plz!
p.s. sorry for my english
It could be CPU related or faulty motherboard. You can't be very sure about your battery. If you can try another one.
Does it heat up suddenly while turned on?
Also, next time DON'T put phone in fridge- you could made it only worse.
About battery. I tried to connect a phone to power supply (txn-1502D) without battery at all. And no changes - turns on, few secs and reboot.
I put it in the fridge in multiple packages ( I thought it would protect it from water )
And no, It does not heat up while turning. (at least on the surface of phone).
So, i think, It only remains to try to remove the extra peripherals (camera/3g/etc), and if no effect start looking for a new phone
And a little question, whether the consumption of 0.25A while turning on normal?
assuming this is not a hardware problem and the battery is sufficiently charged, sounds like:
1. your sd-card partition(s) may have errors on them and/or...
2. maybe your ROM installation might have been corrupted
for 1, remove the sd-card and you can put it in a card reader and plug it into your desktop/laptop. on the desktop/laptop, you can at least check the FAT32 partition for errors and repair them.
for 2, try re-installing the ROM or try another ROM altogether while you are at it. BUT, in order to install a ROM you need a good amount of battery which isn't charging properly because the ROM reboots and interrupts the charging. also magldr doesn't support charging so use one of the following methods to charge the battery to prepare for a re-install:
a. use an external charger
b. install the "4EXT" recovery which supports charging...installing recovery takes a few seconds and booting into the recovery via magldr also takes a few seconds. if you can flash and boot into 4EXT, then you can charge your battery to 100%. see my signature for a link to the 4EXT recovery for the HD2 (open the link and scroll to the middle of the page to see the links for the 4EXT download).
try to eliminate possibility 1 FIRST!
Sorry, I can not correctly described the situation, but in first post i wrote "phone without sim, without sd", so... About ROM - magldr doesn't boot android until I press something like "load from nand". And it reboots in any case over time. (even if I did not press anything)
So, i think it is hardware problem, but it does not look like overheating/battery issue and may be amenable to repairs in the home.. But now i can't determine possible causes.
damaty said:
When i turn on the phone it restarts after a while. Time of live is different - about 5-30sec, sometimes(rarely) it loads android successfully(but then reboot, max live time - 3-4min). It all started a few days ago after a full discharge. Phone without sim, without sd.
There are some topics with similar problem(symptoms), but:
* I have not changed the firmware in the last 4-5 months
* It's not a battery issue, I tried to connect a phone to power supply with cables (2 cables - one for + and one for -, ~4V) and turned it on (without battery). It turned on with the same problem. (notice: consumption=0.25mA)
* I put it in the fridge for an hour (without battery) - no effect at all. 10 secs and reboot. (so, it was the most probable, but...)
* I tried to boot with volume down+power - boots ok (3 color screen with text) and reboot after a few secs.
I have not looked at motherboard yet (don't have a little screwdriver). Anyway I don't know what could be the problem? help me plz!
p.s. sorry for my english
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I also didn't read your post properly
The highlighted part in your quoted post above seems to indeed indicate a hardware problem!
ASCIIker said:
I also didn't read your post properly
The highlighted part in your quoted post above seems to indeed indicate a hardware problem!
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If you leave the device alone for 15 minutes rebooting, has the phone catched any heat? or is it just "Cold", Could be that the cpu is overheated, or the contacts are bad. Maybe try to put the phone in a freezer and keep it there for 5 minutes, then try booting it.
I would have suggested you repartition your phone to a higher amount that your ROM needs but seeing this "tried to boot with volume down+power - boots ok (3 color screen with text) and reboot after a few secs" I would say its pointless. This seems to me like a hardware issue, possible the motherboard has gone bad. If it was a software issue you would likely not get the reboots in bootloader mode.
Good evening...
I've had this problem for the past 5 days..i tried a new ROM but didn't like it so i went back to my original rom...but the phone after the recover stopped working..so i tried using the RSDlite to install another ICS to be able to start my device.,and after the installation was almost done,,RSD requested the phone to be restarted,,after that it completely died! nothing happens when i start the phone..no light..no screen light..just one thin..when i connect it to the charger or to my pc the white LED is on...but the screen stays black like its OFF..
I left the device on charger for TWO days..
I tried Vol UP + Power to get into the menu...
I took off the battery for ONE day,,,
NOTHING...just black screen with white charging led,,
when i connect it to my pc..there isn't even the notification sound that a new device is connected..
not even RSDlite is able to find the device...
Please help me...i've tried everything i know..some ppl might say recharge the batt,,as i said i left it on the charger for 2 days!
i don't know what to do next !
HELLO !!
wahoby said:
Good evening...
I've had this problem for the past 5 days..i tried a new ROM but didn't like it so i went back to my original rom...but the phone after the recover stopped working..so i tried using the RSDlite to install another ICS to be able to start my device.,and after the installation was almost done,,RSD requested the phone to be restarted,,after that it completely died! nothing happens when i start the phone..no light..no screen light..just one thin..when i connect it to the charger or to my pc the white LED is on...but the screen stays black like its OFF..
I left the device on charger for TWO days..
I tried Vol UP + Power to get into the menu...
I took off the battery for ONE day,,,
NOTHING...just black screen with white charging led,,
when i connect it to my pc..there isn't even the notification sound that a new device is connected..
not even RSDlite is able to find the device...
Please help me...i've tried everything i know..some ppl might say recharge the batt,,as i said i left it on the charger for 2 days!
i don't know what to do next !
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While phone is off do the following:
1. Press volume down button and power off button both together till you see Android Robot with (!) Exclamation mark;
2. Now release both keys and press volume keys (both up and down volume keys together);
3. This will show you Stock Recovery;
4. Now from volume down key select "wipe Data" and execute it with power key;
5. Now select Reboot.
This will probably resolve the issue. However, if the issue still persists then you need to use RSD lite to flash your phone with the some Froyo SBF.
For more info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1216982
[Note: To enter bootloader menu so that RSD lite recognize your phone you need to have its USB drivers installed on your system and while booting you need to press Volume Up key and Power key together while phone is off to enter Bootloader menu to flash with SBF.]
Hope this helps!!
ATB!!
wahoby said:
Good evening...
I've had this problem for the past 5 days..i tried a new ROM but didn't like it so i went back to my original rom...but the phone after the recover stopped working..so i tried using the RSDlite to install another ICS to be able to start my device.,and after the installation was almost done,,RSD requested the phone to be restarted,,after that it completely died! nothing happens when i start the phone..no light..no screen light..just one thin..when i connect it to the charger or to my pc the white LED is on...but the screen stays black like its OFF..
I left the device on charger for TWO days..
I tried Vol UP + Power to get into the menu...
I took off the battery for ONE day,,,
NOTHING...just black screen with white charging led,,
when i connect it to my pc..there isn't even the notification sound that a new device is connected..
not even RSDlite is able to find the device...
Please help me...i've tried everything i know..some ppl might say recharge the batt,,as i said i left it on the charger for 2 days!
i don't know what to do next !
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Have you had enough battery when you were flashing the sbf/could it be possible, that the battery died during flashing process?
thanx 4 the reply,,but i have all the drivers installed on my pc,,and the phone won't start..i tried the Vol Down+ powe..nothing..Vol Up+ power nothing..Both Vol+ power also nothing..i left the phone on charger for two days..still nothing..when i try the RSD it doesn't find the device...even when i connect the phone to the pc..there isn't any sound to a new device is connected !! just the white led is on..but screen is always black nothing at all
i have used the RSD before and i know how to install roms using it..also i know how to go to boot menu or recovery menu..but right now i am unable to do anything
Try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10264115
Why?
Cause a damaged OS, cannot charge your battery. you must pull your battery out of defy and charge the battery externally.
Or you buy a new battery, or let charge your old battery by a cellphone-seller, or asks a friend of yours with a defy to charge your battery for you etc.
Have u checked the voltage of your battery, it must be 4,1 V if the battery is fully charged.
I think esok44 is right your battery is empty, there is not enough power in it to start your defy.
i just tried the usb modification to connect it to the battery directly,,done all the steps as told ... nothing!!!
i'm really getting frustrated cuz its been like this for the past one week,,i've tried everything
don't have any friends with defy phone...
can't think of anything else to do but to brake the phone
well if everything fails, give it to motorola...
if it really is broken and everything fails, then try it.
would be the last option for me, but at least it is one...
But as is said, had the same problem and in may case it worked...
i've read on xda about an usb-manipulation to flash sbf when battery is empty, maybe you could try this...
I'll add a link to it
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1489289
i have encountered this problem previously and the solution was replacing the battery, as RATTAR said the battery is not charged. try to charge your battery or try another charger, once it's charged rsd will recognize it. don't panic or despair.