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Not arc-related, but there's no Sony S forum just yet.
A short walkthrough of some of the new multimedia features of the upcoming Sony S Tablet.
It arrives in the US and Canada on September 16th, 2011.
would you say this is better than the other tablets on the market? per say the transformer? I really want a tablet but cant make up my mind. Thanks for the video!
What makes a good device is the community behind it, the Arc's is very small, and development is slow. Even the low/mid range tablets have been improved alot because of hardworking dev's
Just a thought, check out the working community behind the device before you hand over your cash.
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would you say this is better than the other tablets on the market? per say the transformer? I really want a tablet but cant make up my mind. Thanks for the video!
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Up until now, I've never found that I needed a tablet device specifically. I do everything my Core i7 laptop/Core 2 Quad desktop and frankly only use my Nook for reading.
I've used the following tablets:
- Motorola Xoom [reviewed]
- Samsung Galaxy Tab 7 [reviewed]
- Apple iPad 2 [bought, brother's]
- Nook Color [bought]
Unfortunately, I've never used the Transformer, but its reviews are all excellent.
What draws me to the S is its multimedia functionality. I think it needs a $100 price cut but otherwise, unless I find some serious flaw once I get a review unit, I'll probably drop the $500 for one. The design is unique and functional and Sony's screens are beautiful.
Right off the bat, I do wish it had HDMI out.
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would you say this is better than the other tablets on the market?
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No.
It's just another me-too Tegra2 tablet that's far too late to the table.
The new Galaxy Tab 7.7 is head and shoulders above the lot of them with a superior CPU and screen.
I just need something at school to replace my cheap laptop. I was thinking the asus transformer but I'm always pulled to sony. Thanks for the review
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I was looking to get a Transformer Prime before X mas but the constant selays and Asus not being truthful about release dates has turned me off. I would like a tab b4 the holiday and I know the Samsung 10.1 is the next best thing in the dual core world, can ypu guys let me know how the development here is and also pros and cons of the tab to make me confirm on buying a Galaxy tab, thanks.
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Just raeding through these forums tells you all you need to know about the 10.1 all you need is one great rom and one great kernal. We got both of them ;-) Just buy one now and you won't regret it
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Haha thanks. Yea Ive been in the community for a while. MT3G, Nexus One, Galaxy S 2, im loving Samsungs products, I got a entertainment system and television so a tab wouod be good also, plus I know Pershoot does kernels here and hes the greatest so I think i'll be making a good decision.
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Development in the tablet thread is considerably less active than that of the samsung galaxy S2 you have, but thats just representative of the number of owners of phones against tablets.
Although few in number the devs here still push out some great work, you will find ROMs based on the recent android releases and a couple of custom kernels that are both fast and stable.
And as the prices of tablets drop the forums are only going to become more active.
I hear that, I know the Tegra 3 on tge Asus tab is really good but im still wondering why the price on it is so low compared to the Samsung and Apple pads. Etc, asus prime 32gb tabs are the same price as the Galaxy 16 gb tabs. Is it the screen? Quality? I know Asus is not a big brand like Samsung and Apple but im lost.
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If you CAN wait, do it.
The new Tegra will be much much faster, and even consume less power. the Galaxy Tab is a good tablet, at least with custom rom/kernel on it. If you want one now, buy it. You won't regret it, especially not after we got CyanogenMod 9.
What is a bit a downer is the proprietary connector on the Galaxy Tab. That sucks, to be honest
sd card
I seen on one of the feeds it said to download to the sd card is it buit in or no.
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is sd card mounted inside of my GT-P7510 10.1 tablet or is there a way to add one
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I seen on one of the feeds it said to download to the sd card is it buit in or no.
is sd card mounted inside of my GT7510 10.1 tablet or is there a way to add one
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No, the "sdcard" is mounted directly on the board. It also isn't an sdcard at all So, there is no way to change the storage capacity.
phewizzo said:
I was looking to get a Transformer Prime before X mas but the constant selays and Asus not being truthful about release dates has turned me off. I would like a tab b4 the holiday and I know the Samsung 10.1 is the next best thing in the dual core world, can ypu guys let me know how the development here is and also pros and cons of the tab to make me confirm on buying a Galaxy tab, thanks.
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If you can, buy it at Costco. They have them for about $75 off right now in-store. They also turn their stock really quickly so the one you'll get will be a more recent build which has a new screen design. Costco also has a 90 day return policy so if you're disappointed you're not married to it.
I had a Wi-Fi tab originally and just got a 3G Tab from the UK knowing that the Prime's release was imminent. It's got some lag at times but if you read the first impressions posts in the Prime forum it appears it does too which means s/w still plays a role. I think the biggest advantage with Teg3 will be in gaming and local video playback performance. I don't do much of either so Samung's build quality and better audio and video codecs are what made me re-buy one.
Asus has a pretty poor track record h/w wise and there were a lot of issues with the TF1. The Wi-Fi issue with the Prime that's still not been fully explained should give people pause. Both Acer and Lenovo are coming out with Teg3 tablets in Q1. Production starts on the Lenovo in January. If you like the Tab, keep it. If not, at the end of 90 days you'll have some additional choices. Of all the future tablets announced, Samsung's 11.6" Tab with an end-to-end high resoultion screen and second-gen Exynos processor is the one I'm most excited about. That could make me switch but I'm really happy with my current Tab for the time being.
The 10.1 is a nice tab, but it's starting to get a little long in the tooth. If I didn't get mine as cheaply as I did ($320 on Woot) then I probably would have waited for the next crop of Teg3 and Exynos devices. If you absolutely have to have a tablet right now, the Tab 10.1 is a fantastic choice, but definitely shop around.
Yea. I went to Best Buy a little while ago and played with the 10.1 and found it very laggy... even though I know people been using it all day and custom roms and kernels would fix it I still realized that I think it will be better to wait a few weeks for the Prime for the same amount of $$ of a 16 gb Galaxy tab I could get a 32gb Prime thats ICS ready.
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Yea. I went to Best Buy a little while ago and played with the 10.1 and found it very laggy... even though I know people been using it all day and custom roms and kernels would fix it I still realized that I think it will be better to wait a few weeks for the Prime for the same amount of $$ of a 16 gb Galaxy tab I could get a 32gb Prime thats ICS ready.
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Yeah, although I want a 10.1 tab, the fact that it's equally priced as a new quad-core tablet with more space and ports is preventing me from doing so. I can only hope they drop the price in light of the release of the new quad core beast...
Well guys i am planning to buy a Tablet with a 7" or 10" Display i am hung up on 3-4 Options
1) HP Touchpad
2) Asus Transformer
3) BlackBerry Playbook
4) Nook colour Or a Kindle Fire
My budget is not more than 400$ not a single penny more. Or should i just wait for the new release of the Asus Tablet which cost around 249$
Well, the nook and playbook aren't 10' , and the new transformer is also 7' so there's that. I think the Transformer and Playbook have a lot of Dev support, but I don't know to what extent for the Playbook. Take a look in their forum, see what kinds of Roms they have. I bet the Playbook will have CM9 before we do, but not by much. I love my Tranny, and I think you will too. I bought my 32 gb for 350, so shop around and get the best deal and then...buy the dock.
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Well i am betting on MeMo to come out . And there is no support for playbook at XDA
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Well i am betting on MeMo to come out . And there is no support for playbook at XDA
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for me, the decision was to wait for MeMo or get the transformer now. I got a transformer for a few reasons:
1. I would have been happy with a 7" screen, but I'm happier with a 10".
2. The MeMo will not have a keyboard dock (probably not at least).
3. Since the tegra2 devices have been on the market much longer than the tegra3 devices, the software and manufacturing are more mature and I don't want to be a beta tester for a new device.
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Well guys i am planning to buy a Tablet with a 7" or 10" Display i am hung up on 3-4 Options
1) HP Touchpad
2) Asus Transformer
3) BlackBerry Playbook
4) Nook colour Or a Kindle Fire
My budget is not more than 400$ not a single penny more. Or should i just wait for the new release of the Asus Tablet which cost around 249$
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Just got me a 101 with 32gb for $350 at Ebay, mint condition. The tab is perfect, all features work including a very fast gps lock. With Android 3.2 you're just one step to the Ice Cream Sandwich. I recommend the 101, everything works and the price just right. You will be pleased!
I wouldn't get any of the products you have listed. I would save up a bit longer and get the Prime (if you really need one soon) or wait until Q2 and pickup the TF701 (the 1920x1080 res one).
All of the products you listed (besides the Kindle / Nook) are at the EOL or completely done (Touchpad).
The Nook/Kindle are just under powered imo.
Don't get me wrong, all of the ones I've played with are nice devices. Just if I am spending a decent amount of money on something, I want it to be new and good for a while after I purchase it, not something that is already outdated.
moto211 said:
for me, the decision was to wait for MeMo or get the transformer now. I got a transformer for a few reasons:
1. I would have been happy with a 7" screen, but I'm happier with a 10".
2. The MeMo will not have a keyboard dock (probably not at least).
3. Since the tegra2 devices have been on the market much longer than the tegra3 devices, the software and manufacturing are more mature and I don't want to be a beta tester for a new device.
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Ahh well you have made a right point about the gpu. but your are paying 100$ more than the TF707
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tedr44 said:
Just got me a 101 with 32gb for $350 at Ebay, mint condition. The tab is perfect, all features work including a very fast gps lock. With Android 3.2 you're just one step to the Ice Cream Sandwich. I recommend the 101, everything works and the price just right. You will be pleased!
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So what can you say about the transformer is it outdated or still a good buy
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You’re somewhat late buying a 101 for $400.
I was waiting for the Prime, until Black Friday came along. Brand new, you bet the 101 at $250 knocks it out of the ballpark. At $400 and with what’s looming, I’d wait.
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So what can you say about the transformer is it outdated or still a good buy
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Products become outdated only when it's no longer supported by the maker or new software is no longer available. The Transformer is not outdated, in fact over 99% of the apps out there will run on it, and Asus is about to provide an ICS update that will enhance its functionality. For your targeted budget I would consider the Transformer as the best buy among those in your list.
The other consideration is your own personal usage, what kind of programs are planning to run on your tablet? Most users want something with reader functions to read books, media entertainment like music and movies, children educational programs, internet browsing, video and audio chatting, newspapers and magazines, personal data managment like bills, records, checkbooks. The Transformer will do all these and more for you.
yes the tablet is a beast.
got mine for 270 on ebay mint condition and im loving it
rooted with custom rom. sucks i cant get a keyboard cheap
im a college student a keyboard is a must buy for me. for now i cant really buy anything since school is sucking up all my money
anyway you should buy it although the development for it is really slow. we still waiting for ICS( FFS Asus hurry the fudge up)
I think the Asus Transformer is still very much a relevant tablet. I just got mine from Tiger Direct for $299 on a Valentine's Special.
Right now the development and spec are growing exponentially and you will find yourself waiting just a little bit longer for the next version and never buy anything.
The TF101 is a very capable tablet that wi compatible with 99%+ of what is in the market right now. It is also one of the first tablets slated to receive ICS (March-2012).
My only thought here is that for $400 retail is a bit stiff knowing the prime is about $100 more. Shop around so that you don't pay full retail price. If you get a good deal, you will end up with a table that will satisfy your needs very well, and will probably cover your wants for a while too.
Get it and enjoy it!
I bought mine a few weeks ago. I did a ton of research on what's around at the moment and tossed around the idea of 7 inch vs 10 inch, looked into cost, read a ton of reviews. I couldn't justify anything as being a better deal than the Transformer w/ dock.
A few weeks later and I'm more than happy with my choice. It's a wonderful device.
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It is also one of the first tablets slated to receive ICS (March-2012).
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But keep in mind it was slated to receive ICS in December-2011, then in January, then in February and now they say March. I wouldn't buy Transformer now unless it dropped in price. Better go for sth without Tegra, so you can watch any movie you want on the tablet. Avoid Blackberry too and all 1024x600 resolution tablets.
I bought my new 32GB TF101 last week when Best Buy had it on sale for $399 and I couldn't be happier. I wasn't going to take the chance on a Prime for $100 more (when you can actually find someone who has it in stock) with all of the reported issues. Especially in my case where I was trying to replace my Acer A500 that had really poor wifi signal strength so I didn't want to go from one bad one to another.
Sure the Prime is much better on paper, but with the list of issues that it has I am not so sure it is a great buy right now. If it was readily in stock it might be worth at least a chance because you could try exchanging it a couple times, but IMO it certainly isn't worth it when your only other option is to RMA it.
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If it was readily in stock it might be worth at least a chance because you could try exchanging it a couple times, but IMO it certainly isn't worth it when your only other option is to RMA it.
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*lol* I looked for one. It seemed a few weeks ago there wasn't *any* in existance at any price. Right now I'm happy with the one I have - might upgrade next year, to this years model.
I got the 16 gig and tossed a 16 gig SD card I had lying around.
Well thanks for your input guys all I want from my tablet is Entertainment like games and movies nothing else. I have seen people saying that this tablet is a bit heavy and you cant carry it wherever you go so what's your say on this. And the most important factor is I live In india and the only store that ships it is Amazon I can't find any other option to buy from
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I am quite confused whether to wait for the launch of TF701 or just buy a transformer
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I've had my hands on a Transformer for a while now and I must say it's great.
If your question was : Will I enjoy using a TF101?
I'd say : Definitely!
Will there be some other sexy tablet released in the near future that you'll want to buy ?
Most likely! but keep in mind that this will always be the case... There's always something new and exciting to wait for.
The Android is always greener on the other side of my time machine...
www.asus.com/Eee/Eee_Pad/Eee_Pad_Transformer_TF101/
4.0 upgradable
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I wonder if someone could take the innards of the Nexus 7 and place it into the body of a 10" tablet...
Wondering if this could be possible to hack a quad core processor to a bigger screen without much extra programming or modifying?
Also, why are all the tablets that I have seen only have 1 GB Ram, Is extra Ram really that hard to upgrade or produce without extra or costly manufactures modifications or is it at some kind of technological threshold at this point.
Would really like to see a tablet that could have extra slots for more ram like a laptop.
Questions go in the Q&A section
Nexus 7 Q&A
I believe I posted a question in the "Nexus 7 "Q&A" section. Is this section not for questions, even though it says "Nexus 7 Q&A"? Seriously?
There are quad core 10 inch tablets already available.
There is no need for more than 1GB of RAM. Android uses RAM efficiently enough that 1 should be more than enough.
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miketoasty said:
There are quad core 10 inch tablets already available.
There is no need for more than 1GB of RAM. Android uses RAM efficiently enough that 1 should be more than enough.
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Unless you modify it like HTC did with the One X. I've read some bad things about how that phone handles background programs.
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Unless you modify it like HTC did with the One X. I've read some bad things about how that phone handles background programs.
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The One X is a HTC Sense based device which uses more memory/ram natively. This is s aosp device so I don't think we'll have that issue. And as you said HTC modifies things. The Nexus 7 will not be modified unless someone tries to port HTC Sense 4.0 rom for it.
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I wonder if someone could take the innards of the Nexus 7 and place it into the body of a 10" tablet...
Wondering if this could be possible to hack a quad core processor to a bigger screen without much extra programming or modifying?
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This is a joke, right? How do you suppose one would do this?
clyffcarlock said:
I wonder if someone could take the innards of the Nexus 7 and place it into the body of a 10" tablet...
Wondering if this could be possible to hack a quad core processor to a bigger screen without much extra programming or modifying?
Also, why are all the tablets that I have seen only have 1 GB Ram, Is extra Ram really that hard to upgrade or produce without extra or costly manufactures modifications or is it at some kind of technological threshold at this point.
Would really like to see a tablet that could have extra slots for more ram like a laptop.
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Yeah i could do it for you for $1000...comes with a free chinese market
Oh and we can hook up an hdmi port and have it built in into a 55 inch tv
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Just get a Transformer Prime or wait on those new Acer ones. Galaxy Note 10 is also going to be a possibility.
Fact is, especially with the Acer and Asus tabs, they're basically stock. Samsung has a Twizzy skin, but I think romming has gone great on it.
Oxirane said:
Just get a Transformer Prime
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Sure if you want to pay about double the price and not get free stuff with the pre-orders..
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Sure if you want to pay about double the price and not get free stuff with the pre-orders..
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The tax and shipping kind of cancels out the cost of that free stuff though. You can get the other tablets, in USA anyway, with no tax or shipping at a lot of retailers. And really, Transformers? Some could say that's a con to buying it :laugh:
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The tax and shipping kind of cancels out the cost of that free stuff though. You can get the other tablets, in USA anyway, with no tax or shipping at a lot of retailers. And really, Transformers? Some could say that's a con to buying it :laugh:
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I paid $6.18 for tax and $13.99 for shipping (BFD). So yes I'm happy with what I paid for. If your not don't buy it.
hi guys..
i m thinking of potentially buying my first tablet..
the reasonable cost was the main issue and the main barrier..so at the begining i was looking at the chinese tablets that have been out.. (yandao, cube etc..)
on the other hand i was seeing the specs of samsung galaxy note, or asus transformer but these were far way expensive to afford..
the past few days i have focused on motorola xoom 2 but i guess i could need some view of current owners..
to start with.. xoom? or xoom 2? why? or why not?
the media version is out of question due to smaller screen..
regarding the xoom 2 one, does it or does it not support microsd? i have read quite contrary views on this..
and finally any place to recommend to buy from? preferably from europe to avoid custom taxes.., although if cost is considerably low, i could do with overseas purchase as well..
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hi guys..
i m thinking of potentially buying my first tablet..
the reasonable cost was the main issue and the main barrier..so at the begining i was looking at the chinese tablets that have been out.. (yandao, cube etc..)
on the other hand i was seeing the specs of samsung galaxy note, or asus transformer but these were far way expensive to afford..
the past few days i have focused on motorola xoom 2 but i guess i could need some view of current owners..
to start with.. xoom? or xoom 2? why? or why not?
the media version is out of question due to smaller screen..
regarding the xoom 2 one, does it or does it not support microsd? i have read quite contrary views on this..
and finally any place to recommend to buy from? preferably from europe to avoid custom taxes.., although if cost is considerably low, i could do with overseas purchase as well..
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Don't buy a Xoom 2/Xyboard or Xoom FE.
hi, thank you for your response.. could you please tell me why not? do you have any alternative recommendation?
shall i guess that you are not pleased?
do you have any alternative recommendation?
nikolasr200 said:
hi, thank you for your response.. could you please tell me why not? do you have any alternative recommendation?
shall i guess that you are not pleased?
do you have any alternative recommendation?
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Get the MZ604 (wifi only). Its the best for updating, etc (its on JB). I had the same doubt last week and got the MZ604 and couldnt be happier! xoom 2 is not a google device so the updates comes from motorola itself and they dont seem to care much about it
wow!! i didn't know that mz604 was had officially jb!
i thought that motorola was a google company whatsoever, so i would expect to update all of the series..!!!
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wow!! i didn't know that mz604 was had officially jb!
i thought that motorola was a google company whatsoever, so i would expect to update all of the series..!!!
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Motorola Mobility has been acquired by Google. However, Google has stated that they will be operating with a hands-off approach. We'll see if that changes in the future.
However, the original US wifi Xoom is a GED, Google Experience Device. This means it gets its updates directly from Google. The other original xooms can be unlocked via the same method as the US wifi xoom, but they do not get updates in the same manner.
The Xoom FE and the Xoom 2/Xyboards are 100% Motorola atrocities. They have locked bootloaders and [should] receive updates from Motorola/Verizon. Good luck getting updates though.
If you are considering a Xoom, get the original Xoom. Otherwise, either wait for a 10" Nexus tablet if you want a 10", or grab a Transformer series tablet or the Acer A200. If you're okay with 7", then get the Nexus 7; it reigns supreme in the 7" department.
quite informative post mate...that's why i can see that still the xooms sell at near the same price as xooms 2..
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quite informative post mate...that's why i can see that still the xooms sell at near the same price as xooms 2..
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well.. its 99% the same hardware! and the xoom front camera is better than xoom 2 (2MP vs 1.3MP).. so I dont see why getting a xoom2. Some may find it prettier but in the end this doesnt even matter
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well.. its 99% the same hardware!
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Not at all. The hardware is actually what is so different about the two devices.
Processor: Tegra 2 vs OMAP 4 (Xoom 2 wins)
Display: Boring LCD vs IPS (Xoom 2 wins)
Battery: 6500 mAh vs 7000 mAh (Xoom 2 wins)
Weight: 708g vs 599g (Xoom 2 wins)
Thickness: 12.9mm vs 8.8mm (Xoom 2 wins)
The cameras are mildy different sure, but the Xoom 2 is better in almost every way in terms of hardware. This should be no surprise, as Motorola products are usually of great build quality; their hardware is usually quite good. Unfortunately, the Xoom 2 was not a flagship or GED and thus it was given the locked bootloader treatment Motorola devices typically enjoy and also filled with delightful software enhancements in the form of Motoblur and various Motorola apps.
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Processor: Tegra 2 vs OMAP 4 (Xoom 2 wins)
Display: Boring LCD vs IPS (Xoom 2 wins)
Battery: 6500 mAh vs 7000 mAh (Xoom 2 wins)
Weight: 708g vs 599g (Xoom 2 wins)
Thickness: 12.9mm vs 8.8mm (Xoom 2 wins)
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Didnt knew about that!
Processor: Many, many similarities so I call this almost a tie (OMAP simplifies some stuffs) -> http://www.extremetech.com/computin...s-ti-omap-4-or-why-the-droid-bionic-uses-omap
Display: Agreed, IPS is better but hey, side-to-side my Xoom and my Nexus S (AMOLED), I find Xoom screen REALLY nice, no downsides at all
Battery: 500mAh doesnt seems to make a huge difference for me, my Xoom battery takes LONG to dry out (even with wifi + torrent downloads the whole night I can still use it the whole day)
Weight: Xoom does seem a bit heavy sometimes but again, not a big deal even carring it with me everywhere
Thickness: Xoom 2 has a smaller screen and etc but the mm difference does not stands out that much
This is just my personal opinion [technically, xoom 2 is "better" but the changes are not that meaningful]
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Didnt knew about that!
Processor: Many, many similarities so I call this almost a tie (OMAP simplifies some stuffs) -> http://www.extremetech.com/computin...s-ti-omap-4-or-why-the-droid-bionic-uses-omap
Display: Agreed, IPS is better but hey, side-to-side my Xoom and my Nexus S (AMOLED), I find Xoom screen REALLY nice, no downsides at all
Battery: 500mAh doesnt seems to make a huge difference for me, my Xoom battery takes LONG to dry out (even with wifi + torrent downloads the whole night I can still use it the whole day)
Weight: Xoom does seem a bit heavy sometimes but again, not a big deal even carring it with me everywhere
Thickness: Xoom 2 has a smaller screen and etc but the mm difference does not stands out that much
This is just my personal opinion [technically, xoom 2 is "better" but the changes are not that meaningful]
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I sense a bit of bias in your post.
In regards to processors, even if performance is deemed "similar," the fact is that their architecture is ridiculously different and this plays a large role in software development. Nvidia is also usually extremely tight about their processors whereas OMAP chips are pretty open, making development a bit easier. Regardless, the processor is a key component to the device and the fact that they are different directly refutes the idea that the two devices have "99% same hardware."
On to some other hardware differences. The Xoom 2 screen (or any IPS display) is infinitely better than the original Xoom's screen. I'll agree that the marginal battery size difference isn't that big a deal, but its still a hardware improvement and difference. As for size, the Xoom 2 comes in two variants, 10.1" and 8.9" so...its not smaller, it just has an alternate smaller model as well. And weight? Yeah sure I don't mind carrying my Xoom around and laying around with it propped up in my lap. But I remember when the Xoom 2 first came out. There is a notable weight difference between the two devices and the Xoom 2's form factor is much, much more comfortable.
Back to the original point though, stating that their hardware is 99% similar is just silly. You may prefer the Xoom's hardware/think some parts are better/too similar to tell (and I would agree with you in some regards) but the fact is that the hardware between the two is extremely different. You can't exactly say they're 99% the same when they use different processors, different screens, and different builds resulting in different size/weight. If the Xoom 2 had been a GED or at least have been unlocked (and had an sd slot), I might have upgraded for the hardware improvements that were made, as they addressed all of the hardware disadvantages the Xoom faced on launch.
Original Xoom or the Nexus 7. I've thought about selling my Xoom and getting a nexus 7, but I don't think I could go back to a nexus 7. Currently running CM 10 on my Xoom and loving it.
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Never a moto product again unless i move to the states but even then it would not be first choice.
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Never a moto product again unless i move to the states but even then it would not be first choice.
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Why?
So if I have a 32gb 3g/wifi Verizon version its not a GED? I have to get my updates through Verizon or Motorola?
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Cubanluke88 said:
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Support outside the usa is the worst i have seen for any product, updates have been few and far between, just look at the official moto euro forums and see the dissatisfied customers and this being my first i wont get stung again. Many on theirnhave have moto phone and had the same poor update and service yet went for a moto tablet thinking it will be different, which it isnt/wasnt.
Thats it really, hardware wise is ok but i am worried should anything fail as i know it would be extremely hard to replace or fjnd spares.
ROCKSTAR XS said:
So if I have a 32gb 3g/wifi Verizon version its not a GED? I have to get my updates through Verizon or Motorola?
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Thats correct. Thats why Verizon versions get updates after the US Wifi versions. If they had chosen a GSM carrier, it might have been a different story (similar to how unlocked GSM Galaxy Nexus is a true Nexus - gets its updates from Google). So yeah, blame Verizon.
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thr0tt said:
Support outside the usa is the worst i have seen for any product, updates have been few and far between, just look at the official moto euro forums and see the dissatisfied customers and this being my first i wont get stung again. Many on theirnhave have moto phone and had the same poor update and service yet went for a moto tablet thinking it will be different, which it isnt/wasnt.
Thats it really, hardware wise is ok but i am worried should anything fail as i know it would be extremely hard to replace or fjnd spares.
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Eh, as far as I'm concerned, the only OEM that gives timely updates is Asus. All the others are complete garbage, not just Motorola specifically.
Really though, in regards to Android devices, if you're willing to unlock the bootloader/flash custom roms, Nexus/GED is the way to go, every time.