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Should I hold off on getting the Aria in the hope of ATT picking up a High-end HTC Android device like the desire? I just having a feeling that I could be waiting awhile and I am ready to move to Android right now.
I have the HTC Touch HD fully modded to Sense and WInMo 6.5 but I am just ready to switch.
I have played with the Aria and I am just concerned with the Screen size. Its smaller than the one I have now.
Another concern is the battery life but I figured I would flash ATT bloatware battery draining stuff off the phone. Would it make a difference?
I just need help making my decision. I ahve played with it and it is zippy and fun except for the super sensitive dedicated buttons below.
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Should I hold off on getting the Aria in the hope of ATT picking up a High-end HTC Android device like the desire? I just having a feeling that I could be waiting awhile and I am ready to move to Android right now.
I have the HTC Touch HD fully modded to Sense and WInMo 6.5 but I am just ready to switch.
I have played with the Aria and I am just concerned with the Screen size. Its smaller than the one I have now.
Another concern is the battery life but I figured I would flash ATT bloatware battery draining stuff off the phone. Would it make a difference?
I just need help making my decision. I ahve played with it and it is zippy and fun except for the super sensitive dedicated buttons below.
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have you checked out the Samsung Captivate?
I've checked it out but the UI turns me off and since having an HTC Device, I don't think I could ever change. HTC has soooo much community support and the updating could keep the phone relevant long after it should be.
I read the post between the two. I just cannot get past the Captivates UI.
I'm in the same exact boat as you. I LOVE the packaging of the Aria - its rugged appearance with the rubberized grip, and the metal shiny trimmings on it. I think it looks a bit better than the Iphone 4 and way better than the samsung captivate. But the captivate kind of blows this phone away in terms of hardware, and when I was using the browser on the Aria in the AT&T store today, it seemed sorta glitchy. It wouldn't respond to double taps or zooming in sometimes and it seemed like it had to load a lot more than the captivate. I'm also really drawn to the Sense UI, as I currently have a TP and I like the sense. I don't know if I trust Samsung yet with all the HTC support out there... I'm also hoping for AT&T to pick up some slick HTC android device, but I doubt it'll happen anytime soon..
I was in the exact same boat a couple weeks ago. I ended up going with the Aria and I honestly don't regret it in the slightest. I'm not sure what your plans are as far as rooting and what not, but I have a clean eclair rom (No SenseUI) flashed and it runs even quicker than it did when I got it. I can't complain about battery life, I can always make it through the whole day (except the first couple, couldn't put it down ) and have some battery to spare, you may have issues when you initially get it, but you'll quickly see the reason is everything that auto-syncs does so VERY frequently and you can simply lower that time and see an improvement.
I have used the Captivate and it is quite impressive, but I also found the UI leaving something to be desired. And again, I don't regret buying my Aria over it (I'm still within the 30 day period in which I could potentially exchange my phone).
As far as waiting for another, I personally wouldn't hold my breath. I'm quite suprised AT&T has received what they have so far, I was beginning to think jumping ship would be my only way to get a decent android. My advice if you are truly torn, would be hold out as long as you can, keep an eye on any updates as far as AT&T and Android (I frequently use Google News sorted by date for this, quite effective) and when you can't wait any longer, go with the Aria/Captivate and hope you'll get lucky within those 30 days and get a release
aria has been my first jump to android from many years of htc winmo devices. Although the samsung has more impressive hardware, who's to say when it will be as customizable as HTC devices or rooted (if ever). The community support for HTC devices is unmatched and that alone is a selling point for me.
The aria is a SNAPPY device, I say it blows any previous devices I've had in the past and is by far the best phone I ever owned. I even like the small form as I was tired of carrying around bulk large devices (att tilt2). It's absolutely the best web browsing device I've owned to date. I've not experienced the lagged someone else mentioned and honestly am quite impressed with the speed of the entire device (including data speed.. clearly BLOWS away all my previous phones)
I got lucky, I was ready to ditch comcast so I when I walked into the att store I signed up for uverse (got a great deal) and ended up getting the phone for 99 bucks with no contract extension, so it was a no brainer for me.
I would just get HTC Aria!
I have been hoping to get an Android phone. However, many of the Android phones available in the market are just too big for my liking.
The HTC Aria is nice on size and specs. Definitely my choice. However, I do not live in the US, and HSDPA 850 and 1900 is not supposed in my country. Sigh... no 3G support for me.
I think there's nothing wrong with settling down with the Aria as many of us have. It's all user preference...if you like a big screen and high end specs, go with the Desire, smaller screen and lower tech specs (but not to be underestimated!), Aria.
I bought a Samsung Captivate over a Dell Streak a few months ago when I was looking to make the jump to Android (largely because the captivate had 2.1). I was able to overlook the many small issues with the Captivate (including gps probs), but I've already gone through two of them thanks to hardware defects. I'm giving serious thought to switching to the Dell Streak now that 2.2 is out for it, but I wanted to hear some thoughts from you guys since you've all been using it for a while. Are there any major issues plaguing the Streak? How is the GPS? Does it ever encounter any power problems such as the random shutdowns that occur on some of the Galaxy S phones? Is it awkward to hold while talking?
Switching to Android was one of the best things I've ever done, I just wish I had known ahead of time about the hardware probs with the particular phone I chose. I'm stuck with AT&T since I'm on a family plan, so I'm really hoping the Dell would be a better option for me since it's the only other phone they have that compares in terms of features.
Do it, its the best phone u will ever have.
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I have to agree.
I've had my streak a little over a month and love it, most this time I've been using Steve's 2.2 which is very usable.
If you can swap, have large pockets and don't mind looking a bit of a fool with what amounts to a brick stuck to your ear then go for it! I personally got for function over fashion and the streak is very functional.
To answer you questions:
*Gps is very fast especially when assisted with 3g/gsm location services.
*Battery life is phenomenal I have wifi and 3g constantly swiching all day whilst polling my server monitoring software every minute (Nagios), have 3 mail boxes being pushed (emails every 10 minutes) as well as playing the odd game, web surfing, Bluetooth (on and off) etc.
*I am a medium business user and rely on my phone to manage my business. I wouldnt swap my phone even if it does resemble a paving slab .
In short if you can, get one.
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+1 to that!
What an incredible device. There really isn't much more I need it to do tbh. Just get your head around the overall size of it (you get used to it very quickly) and you will, I think, really enjoy the experience! Ooo that sounds a bit dodgy dunnit....
I didnt realize how much I missed having working GPS until i switched over to the Streak...
Also, I am not missing the long swipe action required to answer a call.
I have my Streak doing everything I had the Captivate doing with the exception of Flash, which should all be rectified within a couple of weeks with the 2.2 upgrade...
The only regret or pause I have/had was shelling out the 6 bills for the Streak, cuz I don't think the cappy will bring much more than $300 on a good day...
Well another concern I've had is that the Streak doesn't seem to have as large a userbase as the Captivate does. There aren't as many mods and tweaks floating around, not as many options in terms of custom ROMs or support. And (at least here in the states) It seems like no at&t reps or anybody has any clue what the hell it even is. It was only in the last month that Best Buy actually started carrying them in stores, affording me the opportunity to play with one first hand (definitely jealous after that). Do you guys ever feel restricted? Or is it simply that the phone doesn't need as much crap to get around stock appearance/settings?
Oh, and How's Angry Birds on that huge screen, anyhow? =)
I had the Samsung Galaxy S for 2 months now and decided to sell it. The lag issues, poor JIT compiler and still un-released Froyo 2.2 in Australia was driving me nuts.
The version of Froyo I had (JPO) was pretty ordinary, and had to be lag fixed by changing the file system from RFS to EXT4. The only problem with this was the reliability, and I was starting to get errors.
The only bonus I can see with the SGS (including Captivate) is their ability to play DIVx (avi files) straight off the bat, and in any resolution easily. I'm not sure if the DS can do it, by the looks its only WMA/MP4 H.263 files, and no DIVx (same as the Nexus One)
Dell seems to have got their act together with this device. I can't wait to get mine tomorrow.
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I bought a Samsung Captivate over a Dell Streak a few months ago when I was looking to make the jump to Android (largely because the captivate had 2.1). I was able to overlook the many small issues with the Captivate (including gps probs), but I've already gone through two of them thanks to hardware defects. I'm giving serious thought to switching to the Dell Streak now that 2.2 is out for it, but I wanted to hear some thoughts from you guys since you've all been using it for a while. Are there any major issues plaguing the Streak? How is the GPS? Does it ever encounter any power problems such as the random shutdowns that occur on some of the Galaxy S phones? Is it awkward to hold while talking?
Switching to Android was one of the best things I've ever done, I just wish I had known ahead of time about the hardware probs with the particular phone I chose. I'm stuck with AT&T since I'm on a family plan, so I'm really hoping the Dell would be a better option for me since it's the only other phone they have that compares in terms of features.
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i have the captivate and hated it before i got my streak and I REALLY Hate it now - Dell's software is TERRIBLE and so is their engineers and support is worse, BUT the hardware WORKS and works WELL and with Steve making the Dell team look down right grade schoolish you can't miss with the Streak.. The only thing i dislike(d) about it was the bluetooth volume on calls (Dell Software Issue again), but Steve has taken care of that also (just Read and Read some more until you get your Steak on 1.4.5) and it will be down right BEASTLY.
Now back to the captivate and samsung - software imperfections can be forgiven and worked out in the future, but hardware problems and LIES from a company telling you they fixed a problem that can only be fixed with a MASSIVE recall is WRONG! At least Dell just won't respond Samsung is contantly coming out with more and more overpriced products like their previous products were something to brag about - Dell stinks, but they seem to at least be putting effort into addressing the Streak's shortcomings before selling us something else (though i will say this in closing - If Not for Steve My Streak surely would have gotten returned 2 weeks ago) oh yeah a lot of ROMS to chose from are cool, but JUST 1 that actually works -PRICELESS!
I just sold my captivate 2 weeks ago to get the streak. Do it. You won't regret it. Everything on the phone just works. Sure its slow out of the box, but I've got DJ_Steve's Rom up and running on it and its awesome. GPS, which did "work" on my captivate is simply perfect on the streak. There just aren't a million, "how to fix your gps" threads here for a reason. When I use the gps I feel like I couldnt get better performance out of a Garmin. For real.
The extra screen real estate is a pleasure to have. Just the extra inch vastly improves web browsing, movies, etc. It is bigger than the average phone out there, but I do not feel at all awkward making a call on it. I don't care. I like the phone so much that wether or not someone thinks I look silly on it does not show up on my radar.
There are no "lag fix" conversations around here either. For a reason. Not needed.
There are no "memory leak" threads either. For a reson. Not needed.
It literally reminds me of someone being in a room for so long and not realizing they were breathing stale air until someone lets them out and they get a breath of fresh air.
The lack of custom roms is refreshing, not having to wade through 50 different roms and then feel like I have to flash every other day to try to fix something that is borked and then have to reinstall all the apps again, sign back into google, restore all my settings on the phone and in apps, etc. I finally feel like I just get to use my phone for what it is, a tool and a toy and not always be looking at it as a project that needs constant improving. Not that flashing a new rom isnt sometimes fun, but DJ_Steve has enough frequent updates and add ons that if I get the itch it seems there will be something available. Also Cyanogenmod will be out for it soon also.
Just do it. Best money spent in a while.
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Well another concern I've had is that the Streak doesn't seem to have as large a userbase as the Captivate does. There aren't as many mods and tweaks floating around, not as many options in terms of custom ROMs or support. And (at least here in the states) It seems like no at&t reps or anybody has any clue what the hell it even is. It was only in the last month that Best Buy actually started carrying them in stores, affording me the opportunity to play with one first hand (definitely jealous after that). Do you guys ever feel restricted? Or is it simply that the phone doesn't need as much crap to get around stock appearance/settings?
Oh, and How's Angry Birds on that huge screen, anyhow? =)
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Angry Birds is the best on the Dell Streak. I love playing it on this phone and it is better than when I had my iphone, captivate, and nexus one.
I totally agree with how you feel about Samsung.
Right on, thanks for the input everybody. As of this moment, Samsung has had my defective Captivate (2nd one, mind you) at the warranty center for "repair" for over a week. Everytime I call for a status update, they quote me an even longer turn around time. Assuming they actually fix anything, it's going straight to ebay once I get it back. Can't wait to make the switch now, my experience with Samsung and their support center has been utterly appalling. I appreciate the recommendations and will definitely be swapping out my xda captivate bookmarks for dell streak ones so I can get back here asap. =)
Oh, hey, one other question.. Are any of you using LauncherPro on the Streak? I've become accustomed to using it and was wondering you can still lock to landscape orientation on the Streak even though LauncherPro locks to Portrait by default when used on other phones with Auto-Rotation disabled?
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Oh, hey, one other question.. Are any of you using LauncherPro on the Streak? I've become accustomed to using it and was wondering you can still lock to landscape orientation on the Streak even though LauncherPro locks to Portrait by default when used on other phones with Auto-Rotation disabled?
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i use LauncherPro - if you disable auto rotation is will lock in Landscape (i think because the Streak was suppose to be most landscape), but if you enable auto in the preferences it rotates whatever way you want just fine
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i use LauncherPro - if you disable auto rotation is will lock in Landscape (i think because the Streak was suppose to be most landscape), but if you enable auto in the preferences it rotates whatever way you want just fine
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Nice, that's exactly the answer I was hoping for. Thanks! =)
I hope u make your switch soon. I had the Captivate for a few weeks, and sold it. Loving my Streak with 2.2, nothing better in my opinion.
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I used to love you but you had to go back. Community support was awesome, hardware was good, Dell software was awful, and no light at the end of the tunnel. My 30-day trial of the Streak is over. I have been convinced that Android is better than iOS. I'm going to go back to my 3g for now, at least until the new Motorola shiny comes out.
Best Buy took my phone back and didn't charge me the restocking fee. They also didn't check the version on my phone or even open the box. I did take it back complete with charger and headphones, tho, just in case.
I will have a Slacker G2 dock for sale soon. Thanks everyone for your information, and especially to DJ_Steve for his incredible ROMs.
That sucks but which/what dell software are you talking about?
And how much do you want for the G2 dock?
Wow.. loving the streak after coming from a Samsung galaxy s. This android phone works 100%. Wonder what else it needed for you
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Same boat here. Just sold mine on eBay. As nice as the hardware may be I do not see myself buying another Dell mobile product. DJ Steve's rom is the only reason I kept the Streak as long as I did. I look forward to more vanilla android options as consumers become increasingly frustrated with custom handset skins and upgrade delays.
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Well I hope you post here when you go to sell the dock. I know plenty of people (including me) are interested in buying it.
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gave mine up this past Friday... too much trouble for such a cool device. Sold it, bought myself another HD2 (had one before). Loved the HD2 but the Windows OS sucked on it. Heard that they successfully ported the Android ROMS with everything working, so I researched, and sure enough, the cooked ROMs are way better than anything Dell put out. Got the HD2, flashed it in 10 mins, and it's beautimous. I will miss the size of the streak for a while, but I missed 3G more (was using it on TMO). Edge was just too slow.
Hmm?
I could understand leaving if one was still waiting for 2.2... or had hardware problems... or didn't like the size...
But this device smokes on Steve's builds and the official 318.
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Hmm?
I could understand leaving if one was still waiting for 2.2... or had hardware problems... or didn't like the size...
But this device smokes on Steve's builds and the official 318.
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The only official build available to me was the AT&T 1.6, which was a No Can Do right there. I was waiting for an 'official' build from Dell, which is why I gave them 30 days. I had some random issues like the pocket time thing and the camera would FC on me about 30% of the time when shooting video, and the best I ever got from it was 6.77 fps at 720p when it didn't FC. The unresponsive screen was the biggest problem to me, since the policy my company requires for (sux0r) outlook access will wipe the device after 10 failed attempts in a row.
I agree the device on Steve's builds smokes pretty much anything available today. The 318 was pretty good, but wasn't an 'official' build for me either. So I would have preferred to use an official build, but Dell has completely stopped talking about when it is coming out since mid-December. I loved the size. I also ordered a cable and a car dock for it on Dec 23, and Dell's ship date was the 19th of Jan. A month lead time for a cable and a dock for a product that they launched 6mo+ ago is hopeless, IMO.
Add all those little issues up, throw in the Samsung and the Motorola (both Tegra 2's) that were announced for AT&T at CES, and I think I can wait until March for a phone that is pretty much guaranteed to run Gingerbread. Hell, I've lived this long with an iPhone 3g, a couple of extra months isn't going to kill me.
I could not go back to any other phone since I had my Streak. I had been an iphone user since its release as well as with many other smartphones that I have used, cant even compare to my Streak. I cant put this baby down. Yeah I understand it's horrible with stock 1.6 but as soon as I upgraded ROM's, Jesus Christ.. this phone is totally wicked in every way.
After being used to the streak it doesnt feel as big in the hand anymore, and I had help my sister out with her iphone and I must say the iphone now looks so tiny to me...lol
But sad to see a Streak user unhappy.....
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gave mine up this past Friday... too much trouble for such a cool device. Sold it, bought myself another HD2 (had one before). Loved the HD2 but the Windows OS sucked on it. Heard that they successfully ported the Android ROMS with everything working, so I researched, and sure enough, the cooked ROMs are way better than anything Dell put out. Got the HD2, flashed it in 10 mins, and it's beautimous. I will miss the size of the streak for a while, but I missed 3G more (was using it on TMO). Edge was just too slow.
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Lol dude anything on EDGE is crap, had to live with a moto milestone no 3G band for my country, I felt like I had a Ferrari Enzo in Cuba if you know what I mean.
Can totally understand the frustrations of the art locked version but coming from a Samsung galaxy s, this phone does smoke and doesn't need a custom rom.
I am actually shocked how fast and stable this prepossessing froyo unit is.
I guess it doesn't matter what phone it is... people will always love it or hate it.
I personally will never buy another Samsung phone again.
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318 is official. Yeah it didnt come on your unit or get pushed OTA to you but there is no difference between at&t locked unit getting flashed to 318 manually and an unlocked unit getting it OTA. Did you ever try a screen recalibration?
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Did you ever try a screen recalibration?
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Yep, and it helped, but didn't completely fix the problem. I was trying to get all the bugs worked out in the 30-day window, and it didn't happen. It could be that some update will fix it in the future.
i too sold my streak yesterday as it was getting extremely frustrating with having to install so many tweaks just to keep it running. 2 days ago did a factory a reset and it got stuck at boot logo. no matter what i did it just wouldnt boot. after nearly 2 days of trying everything, i just sold it and bought a hd7 and loving it!
Almost wonder how much they are selling for, if I were to sell mine it would be to buy another unlocked one. At some point I will toy with getting the Moto Atrix because its so DAMN powerful! Anyone whos seen the videos know, but I really can't see how I could get used to a smaller screen after 3 months of the streak.
Still on the fence
I have alos just got a streak and i love it. I went from a 3gs to the streak. I wasnt even looking to uograde. I was just tooling around best buy and it caught my eye. I asked a slaesperson about it and he tried to talk me out of it. He kept telling me it was a tablet phone and not really functional as a phone. But i saw the potential this hardware could have. long story short i bought one.
I do love this phone. But there have a been a few issues which may force me to return it be fore my 30 days are up.
I seems to randomly start applications and use up memory after i upgraded it to the 2.2 software. The screen is while pretty good is not as responsive as my iphone. sometimes totally unresponsive. the phone occaisionally crashes and reboots and hangs at the dell logo requiring me to remove the battery and replace it to get it to reboot. a few other stupid things that i dont like is that my pictures are filled with album covers and other crap from apps. which is somthing that my palm pre did.
another big deal breaker for me is that the sync software is complete and total garbage. rarley connects and when it does it doesnt work. i had to resort to maually loading my media to the sd card. which is ok. but i would prefer a good functional syncing software. (although i have no love for itunes either, which is my biggest gripe about iphone).
also i had the unlimited iphone data plan and lost it when i upgraded to the streak. but thats just at&t being cheap ass'es.
I really like this phone and i admit that i am new to android software. although i am enjoying learning it and having a new toy to tinker with. i have 5 more days to decide. if i do return this phone i will just wait a few months till they update it or come out with a next gen or another company maufactures something similar.
Just an FYI: I was an Iphone user since first launched so I have the Unlimited iphone data plan that they dont offer no more. I then went to a Streak and I had asked them about my Grandfathered in Unlimited Data plan if I would loose it and they guaranteed me I wouldnt as long as I stayed with any smartphone. ( ie.. Apple, Blackberry and Android ) To make a long story short I still retain my original unlimited data plan.
So far I havent had any problems on my locked ATT Streak running on the official 2.2 305 via QDL. Hopfully it would stay that way.
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I love my dell streak I use it for everyone don't even know what a computer is anymore... can't belevie your going away.
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I love my dell streak I use it for everyone don't even know what a computer is anymore... can't belevie your going away.
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+1 I'd be lost without it now.
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I have alos just got a streak and i love it. I went from a 3gs to the streak. I wasnt even looking to uograde. I was just tooling around best buy and it caught my eye. I asked a slaesperson about it and he tried to talk me out of it. He kept telling me it was a tablet phone and not really functional as a phone. But i saw the potential this hardware could have. long story short i bought one.
I do love this phone. But there have a been a few issues which may force me to return it be fore my 30 days are up.
I seems to randomly start applications and use up memory after i upgraded it to the 2.2 software. The screen is while pretty good is not as responsive as my iphone. sometimes totally unresponsive. the phone occaisionally crashes and reboots and hangs at the dell logo requiring me to remove the battery and replace it to get it to reboot. a few other stupid things that i dont like is that my pictures are filled with album covers and other crap from apps. which is somthing that my palm pre did.
another big deal breaker for me is that the sync software is complete and total garbage. rarley connects and when it does it doesnt work. i had to resort to maually loading my media to the sd card. which is ok. but i would prefer a good functional syncing software. (although i have no love for itunes either, which is my biggest gripe about iphone).
also i had the unlimited iphone data plan and lost it when i upgraded to the streak. but thats just at&t being cheap ass'es.
I really like this phone and i admit that i am new to android software. although i am enjoying learning it and having a new toy to tinker with. i have 5 more days to decide. if i do return this phone i will just wait a few months till they update it or come out with a next gen or another company maufactures something similar.
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I had a 3GS Then bought a captivate in July...and the streak in november. Love the streak. No way I'd go back to a smaller screen. Captivate was fine with a custom rom. But with the stock rom it was AWFUL! I was surprised how fast the streak was on stock froyo.
But speaking of the unlimited data. Call AT&T and get them to put it back on your account. I too am grandfathered in. That's total bull**** they made you change plans at best buy.
So.. yea I think ill be returning the Atrix tomorrow. The phone is amazing: great screen, great battery life, amazingly fast, but I just don't think it is really necessary to have right now.
I wasn't planning on using the webtop application so that whole idea was out; the phone is fast but when compares to my Nexus 1 and Captivate, only loads pages 1-3 seconds faster than the two.
I'm planning on just hollding onto my upgrade until something else comes out or they lower the price of fhe laptop dock or make it better.
Anyone else with the same feelings?
Props on signing off without a list of dumb reasons on why you are returning it. You feel like you don't need it right now and there's nothing wrong with that. Good luck with your new phone.
me want but me no really need....
man i was itching to buy this phone. ive been holding back my compulsion to buy this phone but its geting harder and harder.
just got to keep teling myself that its not a need but a want. got to stop trolling this atrix forum before i nd up buying it
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got to stop trolling this atrix forum before i nd up buying it
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I'm gonna end up doing the same... I want an Atrix bad, but I am curious when a true 4G (LTE) android phone comes out. May have to wait to jump until then.
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So.. yea I think ill be returning the Atrix tomorrow. The phone is amazing: great screen, great battery life, amazingly fast, but I just don't think it is really necessary to have right now.
I wasn't planning on using the webtop application so that whole idea was out; the phone is fast but when compares to my Nexus 1 and Captivate, only loads pages 1-3 seconds faster than the two.
I'm planning on just hollding onto my upgrade until something else comes out or they lower the price of fhe laptop dock or make it better.
Anyone else with the same feelings?
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I just got back from returning mine. I felt the same way I'll hold out on my upgrade until something else comes out. My unlocked vibrant is getting 4x faster upload speed than the atrix. Now thats unacceptable even if att is the reason why it's capped.
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I just got back from returning mine. I felt the same way I'll hold out on my upgrade until something else comes out. My unlocked vibrant is getting 4x faster upload speed than the atrix. Now thats unacceptable even if att is the reason why it's capped.
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Sailing in the same boat, leaning towards selling/returning
I'm probably returning mine within the next few days. It's a great phone but I'm just not feeling it. A lot of the apps that I use often are just more mature and have more features on iOS. It doesn't help that the bootloader is locked and I won't get to enjoy the Cyanogen ROM's I liked so much when I was using the Nexus One. Probably the final straw is also that I am not in a market that has the enhanced backhaul completed yet so my speeds are just as fast on my iPhone 4, which also natively supports HSUPA.
I'll be looking for another Android device as it gets closer to summer.
I added a line and purchased the Atrix at 199 for it..If I decided to return it, and use my captivate on that line, would that upgrade just stay on that line until i use it?
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I added a line and purchased the Atrix at 199 for it..If I decided to return it, and use my captivate on that line, would that upgrade just stay on that line until i use it?
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Yes. If you return within 30 days you get the upgrade back on that line.
it's great I'd you want to try ever phone and you can just keep switching over and over within a month.
You might have to pay a little for restocking or something (and the phone but that can be made up with return)
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So.. yea I think ill be returning the Atrix tomorrow. The phone is amazing: great screen, great battery life, amazingly fast, but I just don't think it is really necessary to have right now.
I wasn't planning on using the webtop application so that whole idea was out; the phone is fast but when compares to my Nexus 1 and Captivate, only loads pages 1-3 seconds faster than the two.
I'm planning on just hollding onto my upgrade until something else comes out or they lower the price of fhe laptop dock or make it better.
Anyone else with the same feelings?
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I was thinking about returning not because I did not need it but because of the random reboots. But I got that fixed today by calling AT&T and have them fix my account. I have the captivate but this phone is beast, I no longer have to worry about widgets taken too much memory, application running that needs to be close, and phone not performing because of too many things running.
Now I will take a lock phone that can run all my apps with no issues then a phone I can customized but still having issues with performance and memory. So at this moment this is definitely a keeper until something better (which I think won't happen until the christmas holiday). Let's be real the next bing thing on the horizon is the SGS II, it is likely not coming to AT&T so we are going to end up paying big bucks for AT&T 3G compatible version imported to the US.
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Let's be real the next bing thing on the horizon is the SGS II, it is likely not coming to AT&T so we are going to end up paying big bucks for AT&T 3G compatible version imported to the US.
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A bit off-topic. Care to back up your guess? All the Galaxy S2 specs I've read so far is covered by AT&T: 850/900/1900/2100
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A bit off-topic. Care to back up your guess? All the Galaxy S2 specs I've read so far is covered by AT&T: 850/900/1900/2100
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Read again or call your resailers, there will be two version one with 850/1900 that will come after the Euro one. I don't think AT&T will be carrying it. I thought the same thing at first but I believe the specs from Samsung are misleading. Let's wait and see but I will not hold my breath.
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A bit off-topic. Care to back up your guess? All the Galaxy S2 specs I've read so far is covered by AT&T: 850/900/1900/2100
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Yea; why would they not release it here? It sold tons here in the US and although it might not go to every carrier, I'm confident it will go to ATT
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Yea; why would they not release it here? It sold tons here in the US and although it might not go to every carrier, I'm confident it will go to ATT
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I hope I am wrong because I would want it on AT&T too, but remember AT&T is getting the iPhone 5 sometime during the summer or fall. I won't bet my money on them getting another powerful phone that could potentially knock the iPhone 5. I think the Atrix was the answer to the iPhone 4 going to Verizon. It took AT&T a long time to get the Captivate in rotation.
The HD2 never made to AT&T although there was one with AT&T 3G
See I've had the Captivate and loved it and Android and was forced to get rid of it due to it's battery life. It would last like 6-7 hours not even joking. But this Atrix is a beast. I took it off the charger about 8:30 am and I have 30% remaining now and im a heavy user of everything. Streaming music using audio galaxy through my jawbone while connected to wi fi for hours at work. Battery life got me loving android again.
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lpsi2000 said:
I hope I am wrong because I would want it on AT&T too, but remember AT&T is getting the iPhone 5 sometime during the summer or fall. I won't bet my money on them getting another powerful phone that could potentially knock the iPhone 5. I think the Atrix was the answer to the iPhone 4 going to Verizon. It took AT&T a long time to get the Captivate in rotation.
The HD2 never made to AT&T although there was one with AT&T 3G
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AT&T drug their feet on the Captivate a little when they had exclusivity with Apple. Now that Verizon and possibly other carriers will have the iPhone 5, don't expect any such coddling of Apple by AT&T. The CEO of AT&T has been using a Captivate as his personal phone since 4Q10 and made sure the media knew he was toting it. He won't be helping Apple out at the expense of other devices any longer.
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AT&T drug their feet on the Captivate a little when they had exclusivity with Apple. Now that Verizon and possibly other carriers will have the iPhone 5, don't expect any such coddling of Apple by AT&T. The CEO of AT&T has been using a Captivate as his personal phone since 4Q10 and made sure the media knew he was toting it. He won't be helping Apple out at the expense of other devices any longer.
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I'd really like to believe that, but...it seems pretty obvious (to me anyway) that the Inspire and Atrix were gimped as to not knock iPhone as at&t's flagship. There's just no other explanation. iPhone is still at&t's top-seller.
I had been itching to buy the Atrix for over 5 months (when it was known as the Tegra 2 Olympus) but now, with the locked bootloader and the complete uselessness of the front camera and the fact it won't get Ice Cream till December'11, I'm thinking dual-core won't officially matter till Google releases a Nexus with it.
Who wants to develop for dual-core anyway when 95% of the phones on the market are single-core? If only stupid moto left the bootloader unsigned, I could have relied on XDA to deliver Ice Cream when it arrives in May/June.
Sad.
A lot people on these threads are dogging the Atrix because of missing features, things not working etc. Damn, can we just enjoy the device. The phone just came out a week or two ago, give it a chance. I had one of the Google I/O Evo's when they came out last year and it was issues with that too. They released the Evo to general public and those too had some issues that consisted of SD card problems, capped fps, battery issues, screen tearing and a lot more. But over time and with updates, the issues that was at hand with the Evo, got fixed and now the Evo is one of the top of the line phones.
I can understand if you just don't like the Atrix but to have the phone a day or two and say oh I'm returning it because it has lag or some other stupid reason..is ridiculous. Most of the time you have lag, it's because of a rogue app or setting. And when talking about apps, one must also remember that this is one of the first if not the first Tegra 2 handset on the market. With that said a lot of apps may not be compatible with the the Atrix...just yet. I know I ran into this issue when I bought the Nexus S. There was a lot of apps in the Market that wasn't compatible with 2.3, one specifically the camera app Vignette. I actually emailed the dev behind the app and they emailed me a different version of the app that worked fine.
I haven't haven't had a iP4 since last year when I sold mine. But for the people coming from the iP4 to Android,specifically the Atrix and is whining about the bootloader being locked, isn't the iPhone locked down as well?
All I'm saying is I'm sure that there will be some updates coming out for the Atrix that will fix some of these issues that everybody is complaining about.
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A lot people on these threads are dogging the Atrix because of missing features, things not working etc. Damn, can we just enjoy the device. The phone just came out a week or two ago, give it a chance. I had one of the Google I/O Evo's when they came out last year and it was issues with that too. They released the Evo to general public and those too had some issues that consisted of SD card problems, capped fps, battery issues, screen tearing and a lot more. But over time and with updates, the issues that was at hand with the Evo, got fixed and now the Evo is one of the top of the line phones.
I can understand if you just don't like the Atrix but to have the phone a day or two and say oh I'm returning it because it has lag or some other stupid reason..is ridiculous. Most of the time you have lag, it's because of a rogue app or setting. And when talking about apps, one must also remember that this is one of the first if not the first Tegra 2 handset on the market. With that said a lot of apps may not be compatible with the the Atrix...just yet. I know I ran into this issue when I bought the Nexus S. There was a lot of apps in the Market that wasn't compatible with 2.3, one specifically the camera app Vignette. I actually emailed the dev behind the app and they emailed me a different version of the app that worked fine.
I haven't haven't had a iP4 since last year when I sold mine. But for the people coming from the iP4 to Android,specifically the Atrix and is whining about the bootloader being locked, isn't the iPhone locked down as well?
All I'm saying is I'm sure that there will be some updates coming out for the Atrix that will fix some of these issues that everybody is complaining about.
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I've been using the Iphones since 2008 and I think some of the issues that people that are coming from an Iphone are having is that it just works out of the box. I was use to a device just working and with the atrix there is a lot of setup time. The contacts are cumbersome and it pulls them from everywhere without giving you the options clearly to select where you want the contacts to come from. The android market is not as mature as the app store. If I get an app from the app store, I know it will work just fine with my phone, that's not always the case with android.
Despite all the hate people have for apple, their closed app store prevents a lot of things from happening. Their device works just right out of the box and a lot of end-user's prefer that and even some of us techies.
I work with PC's all day long and to be honest the last thing I want to do is work on anything computer related when I get home. When I got the atrix, it felt like I was working. It took some time to sort out all of the issues and I still have some that linger on, yet whenever I got an iphone it just worked. I plugged it in and it synced everything and it just worked. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the iphone is the best phone out there. I personally think iOS has grown stale and prefer the android notifications over apples, and let's not get into multitasking... I know android is better at that. The problem is that you have too much fragmentation and that doesn't sit well with most people.
Now you mentioned updates and that's another issue that android has... google doesn't update all the phones, it has to go through the manufacturer and carrier. That, in my opinion is a huge mistake, it causes too many delays and a lot of phones are never even updated. So, while some of the issues can be fixed with an update the question is, will they? The iphone crowd knows for them that it will because most bugs are dealt with through minor updates and then you get the major updates.
The android platform has a lot to offer, I just think google gave away too much control to the makers of these handsets. I think a lot of issues would be alleviated if google just took control back and just released the updates themselves.
I'm keeping the phone and so is my wife, she really loves the customization of it and the widgets. However, I understand where a lot of people are coming from, it's hard to justify spending money on a phone that just doesn't work out of the box.
As for the bootloader, yes apple has everything locked down. A jailbreak is all you need on the iphone. You don't need custom kernels because it's all optimized for apples hardware. You can find a ton of mods as well just by opening up cydia on your phone. The hacking community for the iphone is pretty active, which brings me to another point... I've been looking through the dev forums and most of what I see is dev bickering. I doubt we will see any solid development for the atrix when you have devs to busy trying to prove you can't do something and the others trying to argue with them about it. That's just a waste of time, drop the bullcrap and collaborate, you really never know what you may find.
I was very excited about the atrix, but the more I read those forums the more I knew this phone was doomed.
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I have a birthday coming up in late May. I have a rooted Color Nook which has the feel (and freedom) of the early days of PCs and the Internet (I'm 57) when the idea was knowledge not so much profit. Before the CN I didn't even know XDA existed but their work has me feeling like I'm back in the bulletin board days hacking a 8088 with machine code or scanning phone numbers for unannounced modem connections. Anyone remember when Redhat was the good guys instead of the corporate guys?
Anyway Ive held off buying a iPad2 and am really leaning toward a XOOM, but is it a device "too far?" My laptop is a Dell Studio xps 1645 with an i7 820 and without doubt it was released too early and took two bios updates to get everything working with out auto shutdown every 5 min. Lots of folks returned the units but it is a great laptop now. Stable and fast.
So ... what about the Xoom? Is it the wrong hardware at the right time or can users depend upon Motorola to fix the bugs and end up with a quality machine? I'm six weeks away from plucking some money down on something, so would you guys repeat the purchase? Stick with Motorola?
Most of the issues some people are having are not Motorola but Google Honeycomb. It is a new OS for tablets, basically a 1.0 release. As with any new product version, there will be some issues. It will mature like everything else. Despite some shortcomings, I love it and look forward to the updates and new features in the future.
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Seriously, another one?
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I'd do it again. In fact next week I will be doing it again when I get my wife one.
I suspect lots of the bugs are from apps not necessarily intended for honey comb, and HC's lack of optimization in a rush to get a product to an OEM (Read Google to Moto).
I don't have any issues with my Xoom, and I use it as a Laptop replacement. Mainly because I do development work on my desktop, and I don't need a portable device that oozes with power.
Like I said, I don't have any issues at all with my WiFi Xoom. I haven't filled up the available 28 gigs of memory yet, so SD is a non issue for me until I do. But I don't see my self filling it up any time soon since most of my MP3's are on Amazon using CloudPlayer.I should say most of the MP3's I listen to - i have 158 gigs of music- but most of it is useless now that Pandora is around.
I do wish there where more HC friendly Widgets, the home screens are a lot of screen real estate with not much to fill them up right now.
It's not a bust for me because I'm really enjoying it personally. Sure its not perfect, but I'm confident that Google/Motorola will get the bugs worked out.
The amount of stuff that you can mess with is very very limited right now because the source for honeycomb still hasn't been released. The advantage from a nerd perspective is that this is the only tablet out there with a truly tablet-optimised operating system, so the most exciting part is looking at the potential that this thing will eventually have. The problem is by the time the source code hits, it will certainly not be the only tablet running honeycomb, and probably not the most powerful. So if your only goal is to play with the software, then I would hold off on buying a tablet at all. If you want to do that down the line, but in the meantime want a cool, fully functional tablet for what it was intended to do, its a great device, and most of the limitations outside of the OS have to do with the current apps being updated and optimised for tablets, which could literally happen at any time (I check the market for updates first thing every day). I personally use my xoom for everything, and my laptop gets used for modifying my android devices through adb etc., as a bulky and expensive HD, and to make sure my spreadsheets don't look weird before I send them out (won't someone figure out how to put a logo header on a spreadsheet?).
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Honeycomb is a year too late to be in this condition. Im inclined to say it is a bhst.
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The only bust is this thread.
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