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Hello, I want to buy an XDA to replace my PDA & Mobile. My wife and I currently on vodafone ( joint plan, 200 free mins / pm ) until 14th April so considering either buying used and running the software you've constructed to enable it on vodafone, or buying new from 02 or going with a 2nd hand XDA to another network.
No real need to change her 'phone and have seen 2nd hand XDAs on e-bay at c. £140 - £180 which compares favorably with the purchase price new on a new contract with O2.
However, for UK only use, is one provider better than any others?
We live in the Beds / Cambs / Northants area so should be reasonably covered by all. Only Orange used to have a few flat spots around here.
Many thanks yr comments.
Regards
Charles
is one uk network better than another
Hi there, does anyone have an opinion as to which network is better than another ref calls and gprs, or are they all about the same?
We spend most of our time around the midlands london areas
Many thanks
Charles
Having left Orange to get an XDA2 with O2, I can only say that I've been disappointed. O2's customer service isn't a patch on Orange's, and the coverage is generally slightly worse (although this could be an XDA problem).
I wouldn't recommend O2 to anyone, but will move to Orange as soon as I can, once I can be sure I can get GPRS etc. working. I've never used T-Mobile or Vodafone.
Hope this helps.
Many thanks yr candid comments. As I'm currently with vodafone, I feel my 1st steps will be to buy an unlocked new /2nd hand xda to run on this n'work and see how it shapes up.
Yr comments appear to mirror others I've noted ref O2 cst svs being poor.
Thanks again.
Charles
Just phoned to upgrade my Buisness Orange SIm and was told that as I do not have 50+ mobiles registered with Orange, I cannot get a SPV M1000!
Anyone know where I can get one from?
Ashby
well here orange sell them all over often bundled with tomtom navigate
not sure if they ship to uk though
Does anyone know if this is true? Can you only purchase a SPVM 1000 if you are using 50 or more hand sets? Also, does anyone know how much Orange is charging for the handset when you sign up with service?
Thanks fo the help in sorting this out.
DJ
Try www.ebay.co.uk if there is one available it will be on there, just be sure if buying that you can collect the goods or ascertain the sellers credentials, there have been many instances of hijacked accounts on ebay recently, the feedback looks great, but you arent dealing with the owner of the account, the scammers tend to ask for money transfer via western union.
i doubt that it's true since many big eletronic stores here sell it bundled with tomtom gps
and they give the unit price on their site along with their other SPV
http://orange.dk/privat/telefoner/orange/
of cause i dont know if they ship to other countries
Orange M1000 - more details
I am new here - my first day of posting here ever.
Here is what i have been able to find out about this phone (M1000) from Orange
This is being marketed in 3 countries, - in Denmark to Business & Residential customers, and in UK and France to business customers only. Not just any business customers, many people have posted here and on modaco forums that you have to have 50 lines for your business. This is what i found when i called orange uk, they wouldn't even talk to me till i told them i have over 50 employees (as if). One person said he was told he needed 500 employees, but this seems to be an exception.
As stated by others, this is a lunatic decision for Orange to have taken.
I have searched the internet for buying these.
This was selling, apparently briefly, on Expansys (UK online electronics) but they have sold all they had and are not expecting any more at the moment, as far as i know ( i phoned them about it). I believe it was selling for over £500
There is one Danish site which is offering this on a Denmark Orange Tariff, but I am sure that you would need to give them a Danish address to be able to buy this from Orange Denmark, - i could be wrong. According to current exchange rates, the amount they were asking for was over £400, and that was on a Danish Orange Tariff of at least £30 a month. Not much use to a UK person, unfortunately.
I will be getting a few of these models (unwanted upgrades by some friends who are in a big enough company, but don't particularly like PDA 's as phones) over the next few days, i will beposting one on ebay today or tomorrow, which i will start the bidding at £400 ish.
If anyone wants to approach me outside Ebay, and you live in the London area, contact me please.
Good luck with this, and there is a good review of this, including pictures and videos taken with it, on this URL
http://www.msmobilenews.com/mobile/?cid=454
All the best, and what a gr8 site. I intend to unlock the phones before selling, have any of you used the fantastic tool for unlocking on the Orange spv m-1000 specifically?
Cheers
Ammateur
In France the device is sold on Orange shops about 450 Euro with a contract or 730 euro without
but SPV1000 is only 32MB Ram + 32 MB Rom where XDA2 (O2 or other) are 64 Mo RAM and 64 MO Rom so be carefull read the specs
RAM on M1000
Sorry, if you check out the review link i provided above, from Brody, the founder of his website, who tested one of these and provides much pictures and information, he says the UK version had 128 total, not 64
Its a perfect phone
I recently got hold of a SPV m1000 for DKK 3.600 excl. VAT andwith a contract. I love the design and smallness of the phone but if Orange really won't offer it to ordinary people in your countries then go with another brand. I heard rumours about m1000 lacking memory compared to the other brands, but mine is as good as the O2 (128 MB) and I don't belive they design it in other ways for other countries, especially considering the tininess of Denmark.
Cheers
Johan
also since they are all Himalaya devices then starting to change the inner hardware would inc the price even more then removing the mem would dec the price it just would not be a profitsome thing for orange to do
Individuals can now get the m1000 on contract in the UK, see here.
I live in Hong Kong. From my estimate, the O2 will sell in Hong Kong in December 2005. I want to get the Universal to be first in Hong Kong. Do I buy the Universal from expansys.com or wait the offical selling in Hong Kong?
If you want to be the first you don't have much choice but to get it from somewhere else other than O2!
I'm in the same boat as you are... No warranty and ugly looking Jasjar But on the other hand, the wait is killing me too....
XDA EXEC
Hi in answer to your question, i would only consider the O2 XDA EXEC,i have seen both devices,the XDA EXEC looks way better than the Imate Jasjar.
In addition the XDA EXEC will be tested more...O2 have better support + the O2 active service installed in the phone really inhances the device.
At the end of the day i Know its hard to wait...but i promise you will not be dissapointed this device really sets new standards.
O2 vs JasJar
Disagree with you on some points, firstly, o2 Active is a complete waste of time, been on 02 3years since xda 1 and always dumped it. For Guarantee, they're both about the same, 1 year, so no benefits there. I have also owned an Imate and their customer support was fine, no worse or better then o2. Rom Upgrades are much faster at imate, less bureauracy, and that is a big plus. And if you want to, you can always put an o2 rom later.
Jasjar is a terrible name, and will be more expensive than o2, always. They cannot subsidize like o2 can, not a big difference, so waitin 3-6 weeks you'll get it cheaper for sure.
O2 vs JasJar
Disagree with you on some points, firstly, o2 Active is a complete waste of time, been on 02 3years since xda 1 and always dumped it. For Guarantee, they're both about the same, 1 year, so no benefits there. I have also owned an Imate and their customer support was fine, no worse or better then o2. Rom Upgrades are much faster at imate, less bureauracy, and that is a big plus. And if you want to, you can always put an o2 rom later.
Jasjar is a terrible name, and will be more expensive than o2, always. They cannot subsidize like o2 can, not a big difference, so waitin 3-6 weeks you'll get it cheaper for sure.
Mark,
You can preorder Qtek from expansys. The price a bit cheaper.
You can check here.
http://www.expansys.com.hk/product.asp?code=125550
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fanacreonte2804 said:
Hi in answer to your question, i would only consider the O2 XDA EXEC,i have seen both devices,the XDA EXEC looks way better than the Imate Jasjar.
In addition the XDA EXEC will be tested more...O2 have better support + the O2 active service installed in the phone really inhances the device.
At the end of the day i Know its hard to wait...but i promise you will not be dissapointed this device really sets new standards.
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I bet I can guess who you work for , but I must say the exec is much easier on the eyes.
Not sure
I think they really are 100% the same, unless you really are a tosser and care about device color...
Warranty 1 year
Rom: within a month, you'll put whatever you want in, no big deal active
o2 Active, Useless (Unless someone wants to convince me otherwise)
Price: 100% o2 will be cheaper, it always is. I will always buy these under contract, they are cheaper + you get minutes which I can throw away.
Buying O2
Buying O2 guarantees you a few things:
1) O2 active will be available, and if installed (which at least is optional on the exec without needing silly corporate codes) it will make your device crash much more than devices that dont have it. I have no confidence that O2 will sort out the O2 active issues that exist on the XDA IIs
2) You will wait *eons* for firmware updates. O2 are still shipping devices with BT build 3500, rom 1.31.00, radio: 1.06. They are now about 6 versions behind and there is no news of whether there will *ever* be an official update to the latest and greatest. For the record, BT3900, rom 1.41, and radio 1.12 are the latest.
3) You will get a cheaper device than if you bought it elsewhere.
So.... if you buy O2 then be prepaired to hack around with it, cook your own roms, and rely on timely updates from *other* vendors (which will need to be hacked for the O2 XDA) to fix the bugs on your exec.
O2 do not aknowledge or fix bugs on their devices period.
Nigel
I agree 100%
Exec will be considerably cheaper, but you'll get screwed on support. Even more true for T-Mobile, they are the most agressive guys, u wiull save a lot if you are patient.
For example I bought 13 T-mobile MDA's for 235GBP (purchase price + contract), and flipped on ebay for 320GBP. Now I have cancelled my contract and am getting 446GBP back, paying for JasJar....
So, buying through an agressive operator is always cheaper because they factor in that you will be spending more then you're contract....guess I didn't
Getting it from O2 doesn't offer much advantages; All O2 settings can be obtained from their site or the net; O2 active is useless, I always get rid of it in all my O2 pocket pcs; waste of memory. I bought the jamjar on an o2 contract costing 320GBP, paying 25GBP per month for 100min and 100text which works out to 620GBP. I don't think waiting for the exec itself will give a more significant discount. 320 quid for the device sounds fair enough considering it costs over 600GBP sim free at the moment; some shops sell it at 700GBP!
Did the same
Paid 660 GBP for 250 minutes on o2 and the phone for one year. Not bad? (I already have 500 minutes from o2 for 15GBP per month, but I figured can keep the 250 minutes for guests)
It is pre-order only.
1. Expansys is on pre-order stage.
2. Expansys cannot provide the handset warranty.
3. The price is about 700GBP
I am only wait for O2 Exec.
Hemant said:
Mark,
You can preorder Qtek from expansys. The price a bit cheaper.
You can check here.
http://www.expansys.com.hk/product.asp?code=125550
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What is the price of the O2 Exec from O2 UK for handset only(Sim free)? Who can help me to reply this post?
Thanks!!!!!!
Are you really gonna wait for the O2 XDA Exec in Hong Kong?
I have just been told that Universal will not appear in Hong Kong under O2 brand - the distributor will introduce it as Dopod 900.
Wait and see - October 2005.
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mikeycollins13 said:
I think they really are 100% the same, unless you really are a tosser and care about device color...
Warranty 1 year
Rom: within a month, you'll put whatever you want in, no big deal active
o2 Active, Useless (Unless someone wants to convince me otherwise)
Price: 100% o2 will be cheaper, it always is. I will always buy these under contract, they are cheaper + you get minutes which I can throw away.
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Making him care about the colour on a device that costs £600+gbp makes him a tosser?Would you like a **** brown with pink spots coloured ferrari?
Personally I would wait for the Exec.
I like the O2 colors better than the grey MDA ones - this is just and aesthetic issue. Functional-wise I think you should wait because there are problems with apps that are not compatible yet with WM5, therefore you might not be able to use all the apps which you have purchased (or downloaded as freeware) to run on your device,so your gaming/productivity/communication/entertainment might be impaired
1. Are you sure the O2 Exec will not release in HK?
2. After to read some posts, I want to wait O2 Exec released in Hong Kong rather than to buy imate/MDA Pro from overseas/Internet(expansys or www.pocketpc.com.hk).
shu_sum said:
Are you really gonna wait for the O2 XDA Exec in Hong Kong?
I have just been told that Universal will not appear in Hong Kong under O2 brand - the distributor will introduce it as Dopod 900.
Wait and see - October 2005.
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There's one problem with the O2 exec, at least in the UK - O2! They're rubbish in every sense. I used to be a customer of theirs and I had to phone them EVERY MONTH when they double billed me. They never sorted this out despite my repeated atempts and they're repeated promises. You'll also spend 15 minutes on hold when you call them. Their customer service is completly ineefctual and, as mentioned elsewhere, bug fixes and rom updates are almost non-existant. I'm told they also have poorer 3G coverage in the UK than the likes of Voda.
I bought a JasJar (and paid prolly about £70 more than if I had bought an Exec on O2) soley becuase it meant i didn't have to use O2!
But I agree the exec looks nicer. There is also some concern over the JasJar not having a keybaord backlight - I'll be able to confirm or deny in a couple of days when my order arrives.
I WANT 2 GET THE O2 EXEC ON UPGRADE
BUT NO O2 SHOP IN EAST LONDON HAS ANY
I RANG O2 CUSTOMER SERVICES ABOUT THIS AND ASKED IF I CAN ORDER IT ONLINE, THEY SED YES BUT U'D HAVE 2 PAY £239 (INSTEAD OF £150 IF I UPGRADE IN A O2 SHOP) IF U DO IT ON THE FONE OR NET
IS IT JUST ME OR ARE O2 JUS PLAIN STUPID?
Go to the O2.co.uk shop online and order one for 139.99 on any contract. It's amazing how many different prices they've got for it every time you ring them!
HTH
Fin
findus said:
Go to the O2.co.uk shop online and order one for 139.99 on any contract. It's amazing how many different prices they've got for it every time you ring them!
HTH
Fin
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I'M WANT IT ON A UPGRADE
no need to shout... :wink:
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no need to shout... :wink:
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any1 know if any o2 shop in london has any exec's in stock?
I got mine on an upgrade - £220 but £10 off my monthly bill. Works out at £100 for the phone over the year.
I did mention it the sales lady that I can get it on a new contract for £140 and she offered the money off the tariff then.
I doubt if they sell at all in shops. I tried Ox street but they didn't have it. I bought mine online. Check if it is in stock before bying online, they don't do PRE-ordering stuff.
cheers
Nirvana
They have plenty.
Just picked one up in Reading today to replace my JASJAR which I am selling.
They said they had 6 in stock.
:arrow: rilot
being one who has been deliberating for the past few days whether to buy the O2 Xda Exec or the JasJar
(as far as I see - the Exec's benefit being its looks and much lower cost Vs the better and more frequent firmware updates of the JasJar) -- could you please share the benefits of your knowledge and experience as to WHY you are replacing one model with the other
thanks
@techdot,
the Exec is £100 cheaper SIM free than the JJ, that's a good reason I think!
techDot
My main reason is that I can sell the JASJAR for approx £550 which pays off my Vodafone contract.
O2 have excellent data bundles such as the one I'm on which is 75MB/month for £18.
Overall, the total cost of ownership is considerably lower with the XDA Exec and an O2 contract in my situation.
what is the price of spv m700 . i mean the cash price not in the net but in markets in uk and france and other countries .
thnaks
If you commit yourself to a either a 12 month or 18 month contract of £35 or above.
Then the handset is totally FREE.
thanks for your replay first
i mean the cash price not in installments
Ebay...
Hey there,
Your looking at between £280-350 on ebay. The price will drop even more when ebay becomes flooded with these devices which will happen eventually as more and more people will be offered these devices for their upgrades!
Most people who are not use to these PPC phones just get them as their upgrade and sell them on ebay.
If your looking to buy the original HTC P3600 then your looking at around £400.
Hope this helps.
D.C
Dead Cell
Agree with Your comment , Btw Not a way to get it Without contract ? From orange ?
http://www.onestopphoneshop.co.uk
thanks for all your replays
i want to ask if this pocket " spv m700 " have any problems (software or hardware ) and the unlocker would make this pocket work in my country egypt in etsalat , vodafone and mobinil networks
i meani can i buy it safe and peaceful
sorry if i asked alot
go to www.htc.com there is a retialer in egypt called 'jovitronix?' however the link to there website is down, maybe you can contact one of the UK suppliers of the htc unlocked htc 3600 (the unbranded spv m700) and see if they will ship to your country!