From Sony Developer World News:
Ice Cream Sandwich – from source code release to software upgrade
http://developer.sonyericsson.com/w...from-source-code-release-to-software-upgrade/
SE has the most open dev team I've ever seen.
That's a very good article that explains things in detail. Just shows how much work goes on in the background.
Well done for sharing SE!
Keith
Very interesting and informative article.
It's very nice of them to give some explanations to the regular users, makes you realize how much work is actually invested in a project like this.
A esperar entonces... hasta marzo ( march)
we also integrate our own feature upgrades, such as customised graphics.
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I don't like the sound of it. So Sony is planning to integrate their customization I wish it was stock ICS look
I'm happy about that
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Thanks for the link, Bazoocaze.
Quite informative.
And Sony has absolutely the best dev team!
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I don't like the sound of it. So Sony is planning to integrate their customization I wish it was stock ICS look
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Then buy a Nexus?
We have easy to open bootloaders, so you are free to flash any rom you like.
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Then buy a Nexus?
We have easy to open bootloaders, so you are free to flash any rom you like.
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Unless your carrier locks it....damn ROGERS!
Damn gonna wait the se ics stock.
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thanks for this great news..we'll be waiting..
thanks for this..looking forward for the updates.. ^^
Well I am looking forward for the ICS...
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I don't like the sound of it. So Sony is planning to integrate their customization I wish it was stock ICS look
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SE always looks 10 times better than stock. C'mon.
I am happy seeing customized UI of each OEM.
wow, looks like we still have to wait for a long time..
so, when do we expect to get ICS for our beloved arc ?
january or march ?
I wonder what se's customisation on ics will look like
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Excelent article.
Im waitin fa ICS to ma Arc S
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I was just wondering how many developers are using an Arc? (with developers i mean rom cookers)
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Ditto on this one, anything that springs to mind for future projects
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I was more wondering what happens if we have root, ublocked bootloader. i am sure the arc has more horse power than what it has now. Maybe it's tme to learn how to build roms, i'm a Linux user so it doesn't have to be hard .
It would be great to see cyanogenmod on the arc or just tweaks to the OEM rom.
Hopefully all the X10 devs + some N1/Desire devs will come here.
All I know is that Paul from modaco is waiting like us the ''password'' to unlock his Play, knowing it's the same File System and protections he will produce exellent roms for us.
CM7 and MIUI will surelly be adapted.
I don't think the scenario of X10 will be repeated, many devs were willing to work on custom roms but the phone was locked for a several months so they abandoned and swaped their x10.
As for the ARC it all depends on SE, sooner they release the keys and better are the chances to get many roms, the more they wait and the less devs will support the Arc ...
It will be great to see great roms on the ARC like CM7 and MIUI. so all we have to do is wait on the unlocked bootloader. hope to see it get released soon
For exemple, HTC just unveiled the Sensation with the new high resolution screen, if it gets rooted before the Arc then I will swap my Arc with one of them
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For exemple, HTC just unveiled the Sensation with the new high resolution screen, if it gets rooted before the Arc then I will swap my Arc with one of them
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I think the bootloader will be locked, thats what it looks like. i just read tweets from paul about bootloader
here:
http://twitter.com/#!/PaulOBrien/status/57835519924637696
http://twitter.com/#!/PaulOBrien/status/57835680818147328
and here
http://twitter.com/#!/PaulOBrien/status/57835930786074624
So finally the Arc will be a great device for custom roms!
The hundreds of devs coming from HTC will preffer the build quality of the Arc over the cheapos LG and samsung
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So finally the Arc will be a great device for custom roms!
The hundreds of devs coming from HTC will preffer the build quality of the Arc over the cheapos LG and samsung
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That would be great though there a lot devs with LG2X i had to choose between SE and LG but then i thought nice thing but it's LG
now HTC is locking everything devs would look at other phones. the Arc, Play and Neo are similar so i think if one has a custom rom porting it to another wouldn't be that hard
All im interested in atm is rooting
So does anyone have any idea of when we will get it rooted?
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On the SE dev blog they said it will be ''later in spring''.
So if they want to keep their promise they have till 20th June max
I think I can smell it toward end May don't ask me why
vegetaleb said:
On the SE dev blog they said it will be ''later in spring''.
So if they want to keep their promise they have till 20th June max
I think I can smell it toward end May don't ask me why
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No no, June is summer...end of May, TOPS!
I hope this time they will keep their promise and no postpone at all!
How many time they postponed release of phones,FW updates...?
But here if they want SE Arc to be a success even among dual core phones they should release the root before SGS2 enter the market because this one will be rooted in 24h
That´s true! Sony Ericsson MUST do this! Does the unlocked bootloader means root?
No but unlocking the bootloader means we can use fastboot command, any good dev can then build a root method in a couple of minutes or hours.
If Amon Ra and clockwork recoveries are implemented it's even better,we can then backup,wipe,format partitions to ext 2-3-4...on the phone itself exactly like on nexus one and desire
Custom Kernels will follow too,increasing battery life or overcloacking the cpu...
This dev section will have tons of roms to chose from
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This dev section will have tons of roms to chose from
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I had sworn never to install a custom ROM ever again since I really need my phone for my business and I messed up my Xperia X1 several times...
But reading this... Tempting... Must... Stay... away...
AArrrrgghhhhhh!!!!!!
well you say it ^^
since they released unlock today.. D
so .. i hope now everyone startet git & eclipse (or whatelse ^^) & is working on root & roms
Mooozer said:
well you say it ^^
since they released unlock today.. D
so .. i hope now everyone startet git & eclipse (or whatelse ^^) & is working on root & roms
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Hope so, want to see root and CM7
Anyone who can tweet Paul O Brien must do it right now
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Anyone who can tweet Paul O Brien must do it right now
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He also unlocked his xperia play, soon soon we will have root, roms, kernels haha
does anyone know if the xperia arc kernel has been released?
Head on over to the Sony Ericsson website or check the PC Companian software if you own the Xperia arc. There's a new software update available which adds new themes, a landscape mode for the homescreen, stereo audio in video recordings, an audio boost system called xLoud and ...
Is there some one who can get this and make a flasheble rom threu xrevory so we can get it on the x10 ???
Sorry for the bad englische
wrong forum...
I so want all these stuff in X10 and remember the words of Mighty Bob the builder
YES, WE CAN
if we could get the update software maybe we could use it on our x10 phones
I guess SE will give us some little software updates with bugfixes and maybe new features.
I doubt they'll be bringing it to the X10... It brings a lot of new features. Every time they update the X10 the owners have one less reason to upgrade their phone. I think it's really nice they brought 2.3.3 to the X10, but I don't expect them to give it much updates aside bugfixes...
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I doubt they'll be bringing it to the X10... It brings a lot of new features. Every time they update the X10 the owners have one less reason to upgrade their phone. I think it's really nice they brought 2.3.3 to the X10, but I don't expect them to give it much updates aside bugfixes...
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who is asking SE to give us....I guess our devs can make a .zip file of this update optimized for X10
Maybe we will have a large discussion on SE Forum and ask them update Xperia X10 to Android 2.3.4 again lol. And because the information that SE was testing Android 2.3.4 on X10 so I think this will be. And include in this update is all the update of Xperia Arc :erk:
kunalgahlot said:
who is asking SE to give us....I guess our devs can make a .zip file of this update optimized for X10
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I hope our devs will do that that would make a lott of people happy here
will never happen... arc is far too different...
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I think it would work the arc rom works also fully on the x10 so why wont it work know ??
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will never happen... arc is far too different...
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sorry your completely wrong...ARC is infact very very similar to x10
zodiac100 said:
sorry your completely wrong...ARC is infact very very similar to x10
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It's not. Different CPU, GPU, camera, touchscreen, ... They might be similar in functionality but not in hardware.
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Ambroos said:
It's not. Different CPU, GPU, camera, touchscreen, ... They might be similar in functionality but not in hardware.
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No. Both still work the same way besides multi touch and the fact the arc has a new processor so its really easy to port. Trip ported a Rom before official 2.3. From the arc
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Lion3494 said:
No. Both still work the same way besides multi touch and the fact the arc has a new processor so its really easy to port. Trip ported a Rom before official 2.3. From the arc
Sent from my x10 on official gingerbread
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Easy?! It's hard if you don't know how, and if you want to make it run fast without lags it is even harder to do... And because the Arc has a newer processor it doesn't mean that something is easy to port.
I hope some one will get it that would be very nice
Eric Schmidt, Dreamforce Conference San Francisco
" We have a new operating system, internally known as Ice Cream Sandwich for some reason, which is being released in October/November, which everyone's really excited about."
Yeah right
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Yeah right
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uhh...yeah...right
For XPeria X10?
Hello!
This new version will run on my Xperia X10?
This is the Xperia X10 forum, so i guess this version will run, but i need to know
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Hello!
This new version will run on my Xperia X10?
This is the Xperia X10 forum, so i guess this version will run, but i need to know
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Well there is no official update for X10 by that time sadly.
But Sony has announced that the 2011 phones will have the update, which I think devs will be able to port it onto our X10s. Moreover there would be a CM version of it as well.
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Well there is no official update for X10 by that time sadly.
But Sony has announced that the 2011 phones will have the update, which I think devs will be able to port it onto our X10s. Moreover there would be a CM version of it as well.
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Do you think that X10 can run this new version without problems (slowness, etc)?
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Do you think that X10 can run this new version without problems (slowness, etc)?
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who knows??
The sdk isn't out, and google hasn't released the recommended minimum specs, etc...
It's a dumb convo at the moment, since there is no possible way to answer your question
I heard that the new update will be made to run even on some low spec phones so it might be possible
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I heard that the new update will be made to run even on some low spec phones so it might be possible
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I watch Google i/o all the time and they did say that they will be releasing it for low spec phones. But the problem is SE. They wont want to spend money on a phone from last year so I hate to say it. The X10 will not get 4.0 ICS officially but unofficially yes we will.
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stock roms?
lets wait for the devs to make custom android 4.0 roms so that we can use it in our aging-and-losing-official-support x10..
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lets wait for the devs to make custom android 4.0 roms so that we can use it in our aging-and-losing-official-support x10..
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"losing" it was lost since july 29
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I may have to upgrade my phone for ice cream lol
Can the x10 rly go much faster?
Doubt there will be any devs left by them
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Ice cream sandwich will be epic
There has been a few sneek peaks on the web and I like what I've seen!
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I hope it can become a reality in our x10 ... Our devs have done a great job. By Sony Ericsson we can't expect anything because they said they will not upgrade beyond 2.3, remember that they said the same thing with the upgrade to 2.1 and now we have our phones with 2.3
I'm fine with SE not releasing 4.0 for the X10. It's an old phone and I don't expect SE to bankrupt themselves just to do so. Gingerbread is pretty robust and there's a huge number of apps that work with it, it's not going anywhere for a while. I think the only other phone from that Android era that will get 4.0 is maybe the Nexus One.
However, since the '11 Xperia range *is* getting ICS (Ice Cream Sandwich), they are probably going to use the same kernel (2.3.32 - based on their prior history). With that said; Their's absolutely no reason why the devs won't be able to port ICS to the X10 (unless if Google does a 180 and doesn't release the source code - like they had with Honeycomb). As far as an official 4.0 for the X10, I doubt it and there's no reason to get anyone's hopes up or else we're going to have another full on XDA SE X10 revolt like before, haha.
It can change but I think ICS will see the X10 only through the devs.
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Do you think that X10 can run this new version without problems (slowness, etc)?
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Ice cream sandwich
or Android 4
Is "scale able"
The x10 now has a unlocked bootloader.
So it may be possible for someone to port it.
Currently honeycomb is running successfully on new tab device
I am waiting for that one on my x10
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If 4.0 launches in December then we may have to wait till march
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i hope by then there will still be dev to write for the x10. i will be using the x10 for another few years.
It's been a while since anything even slightly official has come out since XWJW1 and JVU didn't seem official or very tempting at all. Is this it? Have we reached the Omega?
And if not, any clues as to when a new one will be coming out? Hearsay is welcome.
For the record, I think xwjw1 is great (stock odex with semaphore 2.5.0bm and the blue boaffa mods), I just want to know if there is anything to look forward to.
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DanDroidian said:
It's been a while since anything even slightly official has come out since XWJW1 and JVU didn't seem official or very tempting at all. Is this it? Have we reached the Omega?
And if not, any clues as to when a new one will be coming out? Hearsay is welcome.
For the record, I think xwjw1 is great (stock odex with semaphore 2.5.0bm and the blue boaffa mods), I just want to know if there is anything to look forward to.
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Yes, ICS, forget about Samsung's official stance on releasing it for the SGS, the devs here are doing an awesome some and ICS Slim, is fast, sleek and so far, I've had no problems with it.
Thank You Samsung for Not Releasing ICS for SGS!!!
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Yes, ICS, forget about Samsung's official stance on releasing it for the SGS, the devs here are doing an awesome some and ICS Slim, is fast, sleek and so far, I've had no problems with it.
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For once I am happy that Samsung is not releasing ICS! This means I get a vanilla OS from the wonderful community here!
I don't seem to be using TouchWiz for that many things! And if at there are things that I use, I am sure to find alternatives for all of those in the Market!
So I get the ICS "new look" and all the goodies with it - without the old UI!!! It's amazing!
Oh so why should anyone buy galaxy s2 with official very limited and faulty software development ? i think i will put on hold upgrading and wait for googles motorola with amoled
devs in here are making crap as always, doing stuff that they like - when something is crashing and something else is working 1% faster, ICS is pretty much funny and flashy compared to touch wizz which is to get the job done easier and faster
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Oh so why should anyone buy galaxy s2 with official very limited and faulty software development ? i think i will put on hold upgrading and wait for googles motorola with amoled
devs in here are making crap as always, doing stuff that they like - when something is crashing and something else is working 1% faster, ICS is pretty much funny and flashy compared to touch wizz which is to get the job done easier and faster
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wow now you are *****ing about [email protected]?? If you want some features, why don't you go ahead and build them? Instead of talking **** about the DEVs here.
Yes, the SGS is EOL as far as Samsung software is concerned. Luckily this community is big enough to get past this.
We already have a few stable enough AOSP ICS roms and a port of S2's official ICS in the works, so there is still life left.
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devs in here are making crap as always
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Yes, the SGS is EOL as far as Samsung software is concerned. ..
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Doesn't look good for the Verizon crowd.
http://androidcommunity.com/sony-announces-ice-cream-sandwich-delays-no-ota-updates-either-20120330/
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Wonder what impact this will have on root
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I like it. It sounds like they're going to straight-up release it for use with Flashtool. With the work that the developers have done in porting roms to the R800x, chevyowner in particular, it should be a really good development in terms of updates.
please add cdma to this thread title, otherwise a lot of gsm use will get a shock for their life xD
It doesn't really pertain specifically to CDMA. It's a general deal, apparently, that Sony is delaying, and aren't releasing OTAs.
Verizon's Firmware is different from Sony's, so I still believe if Verizon does update your devices that it will be OTA, As of other carriers, I don't know.
The .145 firmware was a UK firmware that supported CDMA variants, which is mostly the Verizon Xperia Play. I believe if Sony could do it then, they can do it again. I'm holding out hope for this one.
I'm patiently awaiting the UK ICS Rom for my r800x.
Check this post out. Awesome news ! http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/03/3...to-ics/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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Check this post out. Awesome news ! http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/03/3...to-ics/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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We just sore this. So the beta was a plan to keep us semi happy i guess
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We just sore this. So the beta was a plan to keep us semi happy i guess
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Yeah... but atleast they've told us that if it'll run on 2011 Xperia devices or not so we don't jump in straight and update to Ice Cream Sandwich which then would be a problem for us.
So, I guess all us with a 2011 Xperia model will have to stay on Gingerbread. Well I don't mind as long as everything runs smoothly which it does on Gingerbread.
I am still a unhappy though cause I was looking forward to ICS I waited so long !
I had a feeling it was a bad sign when Verizon offered me a free upgrade..... Glad they chose to grease the squeaky wheel.... Still sucks though....
You know what? I think sony tells us bullsh*t... my friend has Nexus S with OFFICIAL ICS and it's perfectly smooth. This phones specs are similar to ours - 512 MB of RAM and 1GHz CPU. There aren't any problems on it so it means having nicely optimized ICS on our phones is possible but it seems Sony are sh*tting pants now and telling us right before ICS launch that it won't be running smooth because it needs more resources. I think they are too lazy, there were always problems with their company if we talk about upgrades. X10 has got 2.3 for 8 months and it's still full of bugs. I'm sure I'm not the only one who afraids of this upgrade and not the only one who's mad at them (look at the comments on their blog). They promised great update and now they made us thinking is there a sense of upgrading to ICS if it's so slow in their opinion. Shame on you, Sony.
EDIT: Besides - Sony will soon launch Xperia Neo L in China. The phone with THE SAME hardware specs as our phones. So that means its ICS will be slow too? What's the point in releasing the phone with "slow SQL, low ram and heavy CPU use"?
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You know what? I think sony tells us bullsh*t... my friend has Nexus S with OFFICIAL ICS and it's perfectly smooth. This phones specs are similar to ours - 512 MB of RAM and 1GHz CPU. There aren't any problems on it so it means having nicely optimized ICS on our phones is possible but it seems Sony are sh*tting pants now and telling us right before ICS launch that it won't be running smooth because it needs more resources. I think they are too lazy, there were always problems with their company if we talk about upgrades. X10 has got 2.3 for 8 months and it's still full of bugs. I'm sure I'm not the only one who afraids of this upgrade and not the only one who's mad at them (look at the comments on their blog). They promised great update and now they made us thinking is there a sense of upgrading to ICS if it's so slow in their opinion. Shame on you, Sony.
EDIT: Besides - Sony will soon launch Xperia Neo L in China. The phone with THE SAME hardware specs as our phones. So that means its ICS will be slow too? What's the point in releasing the phone with "slow SQL, low ram and heavy CPU use"?
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Agreed. Sony are playing with us. They are very very lazy indeed.
So Peed of right now
I always knew ICS was a bad operating system and this is proof of it.
If you want a fast phone stick with COLA rom.
trust me.
ICS is like putting lipstick on a pig.
the whole thing reeks of slow /bloatware and "pretty effects"
you know what i say to that? F*** that S***
I dont give a d*** about what it looks like.
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I always knew ICS was a bad operating system and this is proof of it.
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So, just because Sony can't implement it properly in the Xperia line and they say so in advance, ICS is a bad version?
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So, just because Sony can't implement it properly in the Xperia line and they say so in advance, ICS is a bad version?
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lol true. It's got nothing to with ICS but it's all got to do with the Sony Delevopers !
And it's good that they actually highlight these possible issues anyway! I would much rather know this than update blindly and find them later by myself. Then again, what people seem to want is to hear that their device is magical. It sells better indeed.
First thing I'm doing upon getting the official update is to remove Bloat like Music Unlimited ****...
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Wonder what impact this will have on root
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None. We have root now
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